I love how this playstyle allows each player to just put pylons and shield batteries in enemy's base. Like 'what u gonna do about it, huh?"

@cylee4735

7 ай бұрын

soon they will figure out just to put a forge and then set up cannons, there's actually no counter if you go this mass phoenix style of play

@eeefeefeffasdf

7 ай бұрын

​@cylee4735 honestly I was thinking the exact same thing. If you're dropping pylons aggressively in your opponents face and base, build cannons too!

@cylee4735

7 ай бұрын

@@eeefeefeffasdf funny thing is they don’t even have wrap gate researched, so it’d be very funny coz once the cannon is up it beats ungraded Zealots/stalker/adapt 1v1 lol

@detachsoup6061

7 ай бұрын

@@cylee4735i mean its hard to get the cannons up if the enemie has 3 phoenix. And investing in cannons means your enemie has more phoenixs meaning they win sky war and destroy all your units and probes.

@scholliman

6 ай бұрын

@@cylee4735 now imagine 2 toss sitting on only phoenix in their base while plastering the map with cannons. now that's a match i want to see in ESL.

The fact that this was sponsored by the U.S. Air Force is funnier to me than it should be.

@LuxOG

6 ай бұрын

A glimpse into a world without air dominance... sponsored by the U.S. Air Force

@minimalgrammar1276

6 ай бұрын

@@LuxOG The horror.

ZG just casually caster-cursing MaxPax.

@Scawtsauce

7 ай бұрын

zg casual residentsleeper

10/10 That first game was the greatest PvP ever. Feels like playing BW with my friends. xD

@SC2HL

7 ай бұрын

Watch the 4th game ;)

@momom6197

7 ай бұрын

Actually all these games were equally awesome...

@momom6197

7 ай бұрын

For real, I really enjoy phoenix x phoenix action usually, because of the micro, but this was... not it.

The irony of the "US air force" on the map in a series of pheonix wars, example at 20:32.

an astonishing 35 apm was used during the final fight in game one, setting an all time high for sky toss player.

You had me at Protoss Sky.

What nice pro players, giving us some of the best skytoss fights. They even do it up to game 5!

This Fenix war was sponsored by the US military air force

Skytoss is peak StarCraft on all levels 😂😂😂😂

one of the games you know the players just respected each other so much and wanted to have fun/while of course doing their best to win.

I think only the Mothership model is smaller right? the radius of the invisibility field is the same.

@ZC.Andrew

7 ай бұрын

I think it's just the model yeah.

thanks for the video, was sick

This is truly the meta of all time

I love phoenixes sooo much! more plz haha

I havent watched starcraft in years, glad to see Zombiegrub is still around.

I always laugh at the single g

In the Lategame MaxPax had 3k minerals, if he'd just spend it and 250 in gas to get spam some zealots to harras, because he had 90 workers, so he can't face an army, simply because enemy has more army supply. But a diversion is very good because carriers are slow, so with zealot run by you can seperate the army.

Starcraft Featuring StarWars 🤓

10:40 ... US air force is sponsoring SC2? I guess when your a SC pro, you have pretty great skills for remote controlling a drone

17:43 Nice

Best channel

Thanks 🙏

I actually think I might enjoy PvP with this as the meta. Fun to watch air battles for a change

@busTedOaS

6 ай бұрын

soo snowbally. worse than Roach vs Roach imo, atleast there you have counter attacks and occasional muta switches.

Always nice to hear ZG casting 😊

Was this a re upload?

THAT OUTRO

Game 1 you have mothership and nexus recall up. Instead of killing your own phoenix, send them around the map to pick up probes or scout or force enemy army movement. You can recall them at any point so I dont understand wtf they were doing. If you didnt have 3/3, stalling would have been a great move from max.

@kyosukearashi3523

7 ай бұрын

they can't have full vision around the map, recall still being a priceless skill even with mothership, but maybe investing more on detection to support the harassment will be a nice strategy.

@ZC.Andrew

7 ай бұрын

If they do that because they don't want the opponent to know that they are purposely getting rid of the Phoenixes, thus getting Carriers. They're trying to play mind games. And there's no stalling with the Phoenixes. As soon as they move in for harassment, the enemy fleet moves foward, because at that point they know exactly what is happening. It's like pushing a GO button. These players understand how to harass, how to use Recall, and that Phoenixes are horrible vs Carriers. They know more than you do, I promise!

Interceptors go brrr, pixels on the video go bye byeeeeee

I feel like I'm watching mech vs mech TvT in SC1 WTF

People still make motherships after removing the archon toilet?

Darkorbit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who are the two commenters on this game?

Why doesn't mass void beat mass phoenix?

@ZC.Andrew

7 ай бұрын

Phoenix > Voids > Tempests > Carriers > Phoenix. It's their model. If Voids beat max Phoenix, then they'd beat all Protoss air for cost. It would end up being even more boring than it is now lol.

Why mothership is smaller?

@uberculex

7 ай бұрын

It is cheaper to make people actually want to use it.

@Eliteownage

7 ай бұрын

kids were getting chubbier, it got worried, it wanted to set a good example and be healthie

@Soloohara

7 ай бұрын

? it become bigger after a while@@uberculex

@Seldomheardabout

7 ай бұрын

shronk ray

@Soloohara

7 ай бұрын

???@@Seldomheardabout

I wonder why no one make tempest or voidray when opponent start getting carriers.

@cylee4735

7 ай бұрын

because they are so slow and 10+ phoenix will destory them. They idea is that Phoenix are light and fast, so if you mass build something slow, they outrun you and kill your entire economy plus camping your stargate. The only thing this stargate style has to counter phoenix are either building more phoenix or carriers. So that's what they did, unless you have a 4 base economy plus not being scouted, you cannot afford archons, otherwise the moment you start build the templar archive the opponent's phoenix will be right at your base

@ZC.Andrew

7 ай бұрын

@@cylee4735 Even if you could, Carriers annihilate Archons anyway. Once the Phoenix Wars start, it's always more Phoenix straight into Carriers and then usually a huge battle then GG. I wish there were some more viable tech paths, but Phoenixes kinda counter everything that could kill Carriers.

@cylee4735

7 ай бұрын

@@ZC.Andrew archons don’t need to kill the carriers, they kill the intercepts in a quite efficiently and then your phoenix can kill their carriers

@ZC.Andrew

7 ай бұрын

@cylee4735 I'd love if you showed me a game where that actually happened. I'd bet serious money that the player who tries to go Archons loses. Do you know of a game where someone who made that work?

攻防全輸 沒有暴風艦

I had bigger in bronze league

PvP way better than TvT

So no storms/archons or carrier tempests? Or run immos underneath to chip away buildings while engaged with Phoenix. Or make cannons for probe line defense this is trash

Damn, what a great game! Haven't seen such a PvP in a while. Unfortunately, the cast was meh. Their comments were so personal and negative. Putting down the losing player to make their cast somewhat "interesting", hmm don't think so.... not even close...

showtime is always better

TBH, I dislike the new Mothership. I prefer the old one.

oh this is why people say pvp is boring. i see now

@ZC.Andrew

7 ай бұрын

Correction: Skytoss is boring. Ground Toss is pretty exciting, with Blink Stalkers, DTs, and Disruptors involved.

@Jez4prez1

6 ай бұрын

think the dumbest battle I ever saw was muta vs muta. Flying around for ages, then final battle was over in a few seconds, and it had the worst animation and sound FX of any battle in SC2. It was in some live GSL and everyone in chat was just laughing at how anti-climatic and ridiculous it was to watch.

OMG, sky toss vs sky toss - is as boring as it can get

Whats with the moaning in the intro 🤨

Ridiculous.

ZG sounds like she's been with someone underage, and she ain't sorry about it.

Holy moly that was boring

PvP, I sleep

Pretty boring matches on this one

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