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I’m definitely interested in this concept. I think a month minimum in most situations/cities. I would also be interested in a website where you could match with fellow travelers who were going to be in the same city, so you could share accommodation/meals/adventures. You could create a profile with interests, so you could chat prior and decide if they would be a good travel partner - almost like a dating site!

@jackbaldwin3649

4 ай бұрын

Agreed...at least a month.

Interesting concept but I can only see it being practical for about 4 to 6 people in the "wheel". So each group would rotate out of the city every 2 to 3 months. Anything more becomes a scheduling nightmare. But in any case, you still will have to contend with landlords objecting to subletting.

@SlowWorldTravel-cc4dt

8 ай бұрын

We would disclose that it will be used by the club members.

Sounds similar to a timeshare. What happens if you are the long-term rent holder of a certain "accommodation" and someone else in the "club" trashes the place? It needs to be limited to people you can honestly trust.

Creating communities of communities. Back to basics always works best. Allign your values within multiple communities to fit your life at that moment.

One benefit would be that you would have a well stocked kitchen with people leaving butter, mustard, flour etc for the next person. There would probably need to be something worked into the process about being in a place during high season vs in low season. Also, not sure the landlords would let this happen with their apartments.

Great idea, but it takes a group of sincere, dedicated folks!

@VagabondAwake

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

Many Airbnb hosts offer substantial discounts for monthly rentals. I understand the idea of a "slow travel club" in theory, but I can't understand how it would allow flexible scheduling for everyone. What happens when there are vacancies, or when members need a break from traveling, or just decide to exit the group, etc.? I can't see how a small membership could accommodate the obvious scheduling and membership gaps and overlaps. I don't mean to sound negative, and I'm sure you've considered these things, so I'm interested in hearing more.

@fruitloops3718

8 ай бұрын

thats exactly what I was thinking

Sounds good in principle but as already stated in comments landlords/owners would probably object to multiple people using a long-term lease. Getting people to adhere to this "wheel " concept would quickly be like trying to herd cats. A facebook group for slow travelers would concentrate a lot of local knowledge in one place and help keep costs down for all members

Sounds like a great idea, but what if someone has too much to drink and has a problem with the unit? Have damages who pays for that because you know there's always a bad apple or two in a bunch.

@JimMillsCSLC

8 ай бұрын

When I drink too much I always have a problem with my unit😂 And I still have to pay. Damn.

@samt7341

8 ай бұрын

@@JimMillsCSLC lol me too

I think the idea has a lot of value. As to the logistics there will definitely be challenges. But, you guys are taking that on. I would suggest a wheel that would go like 30 days at a time with a commitment of like 5 changes depending on the travel costs to the next stop. But, I think the greatest value to me is having a support network in place to get started with slow travel. You guys obviously did it but I'm all about making this as easy as possible. I think you're onto something!

This is definitely something that needs a solution and I like the general ideas proposed in the video. But the logistics involved sound like a nightmare to coordinate manually. I just can't help but think someone could solve it with a program/app. A traveler would become a "member" on the platform and go through a process to become "verified" (a process that would include you giving proof that the place you make available, if you have one, can legally be used in this fashion). Then as a member, you go on the platform, enter your planned travel info such as cities, start date, desired nights in each destination, etc., and then the app spits out an itinerary with housing options at each indicated stop. The program would do all of the searching and coordinating between different properties and their indicated availability to make sure your trip goes smoothly. It would also give you the pricing, which would be based on whether or not you have a property to offer up while you are traveling and the prices that other owners want for their place if they aren't able to find a free place for themselves to stay in during those dates. It would be a really complex program, but I have faith that someone out there can make it work 🙂

Great ideas guys... brainstorming is always so productive. Thanks !

Yep ! I remember discussing this idea with you long ago, when we get back out to SE Asia. But looks like we will be traveling Latin America first now. Great video !

@VagabondAwake

8 ай бұрын

Yes, just never got a round to it.

The only feed back I have is minimal, I will share my 2cents. Initially when you say "we're needing your help etc..." My first thought is, this will be a fund request... I almost didn't read the rest, I'm glad I did. I was pleased that this was genuinely asking for an opinion. I would just not leave "asking for help" alone I would add a sense of direction as in "asking for your help in an opinion so we can move forward with a great idea that can benefit me, you, us, all like minded individuals. Keep up the good work. I live in Orlando FL visiting Bohol, Php going on 3mths now

Careful about the terms of your lease....sometimes you get to name the person who will occupy, it might make nomads tramping through more complex.

This would work in an ideal world, but we don't live in an ideal world. What happens when 1 person or couple in the wheel's flight is cancelled, then you have 2 groups in the same city with 1 place to stay? What happens when the person in front of you is a slob and every time you get to the new city you have to clean the place before you can live in the place? What about a family emergency and decide they need out, who picks up the bill? I would rather be a part of a group of contributors that shares great restaurants, markets, great places to stay, transportations options, places to see, etc...

@jackbaldwin3649

4 ай бұрын

All good questions I think as well.

Great idea! I’ve got a few years before I’m on permanent vacation and living abroad but I’d love to do the home swap thing!

Sounds like a great idea!

These are the kind of concepts I love! I would agree that there would be so many moving parts. There would be some locations that would be less desirable at certain times of the year. like, for example, Chang Mai during burn season. I would accept some of the possible drawbacks just because it is such a brilliant concept and would save so much money. Almost like "stick'n it to the man"! Ha Ha

I'd suggest a two month stay at each stop on the wheel. That way only six groups are involved in each one year lease cycle. Way easier than say twelve groups for a month, etc. Better would really be three month stays really at four months per stop. You would probably want to incorporate a waiting list of members ready to jump in the cycle and take over for people who bail out, which will definitely happen. One way or another, the person that signs the lease will need to be prepared to ride out the full term. Be interesting to see if you guys get this going. Could work, but not sure if it's worth the logistic hassles TBH. The thing is, you really only get great deals on unfurnished places and not sure how you could include the furnishing of them yourselves in your plan, but you may want to try to figure that part out. That's where the real savings would be IMO. And, as with anything, it only takes one bad actor to ruin things for everyone. In this case one person to destroy the place, steal everything, have the police called, etc etc. and have the lease holder in hot water. You'll really need to try to figure out how to keep this from happening. How? Maybe by only including people you actually know in your group, I'd say. Good luck! ✌

I just replied to the survey. It would be interesting to see the results of the survey, and to discuss the reasoning of the respondents. For example, I voted for the 2-bedroom option thinking that although it would cost a bit more, but it would maximize flexibility if you wanted to invite family or friends along for some of your trip.

Great Idea!! I'm In!!

@VagabondAwake

7 ай бұрын

Great!

I really wanted to take the survey but cannot Skip questions that wouldn’t apply to me. My overall view is that staying a week or two then having to move defeats the purpose of slow travel and your locked into a schedule. The small cost incurred my staying less than a year or 6 months in one place would more than make up for itself with the ease, convenience and flexibility gained. If you’re coming from the US prices (in general) are so inexpensive in Southeast Asia, and quite a few parts of Europe, that it’s not going to matter. You don’t need to save a few bucks. If you do you may want to reevaluate your plan.

You might want to invent some kind of currency, as a base 1 night in a normal house costs one credit (going to the owner of that house). Once that is established, allow the bids to float. People in large nice houses in high demand areas may ask more per night, other less. This way you don't have to put your "puzzle" together with groups. Anyone can earn/spend credits with any house in the network. I suspect you may have issues with liability. You've got multiple houses in multiple nations, all with their own laws. What happens if someone damages the house or leaves it a mess? Or steals things? Or gets hurt in the house? Sure, you can kick them out of the group, but beyond that? If you have a year lease, presumably, you'll have to tell the owner who will be living there. They may balk if you hand them a list of 12 families. You may want to have a profile/feedback system and allow owners to vet perspective "renters" using said system.

In order to reduce international flying. I would like at least a month in each city plus maximizing the use of 180 day visa it would be my desire while in Mexico for instance, to see Puerto Vallarta, Guadalajara, Mexico. San Miguel DE Allende having a month in each City. Then while in the same region, Belize for a month could be a nice stay before heading south through various places/countries, before ending in Panama. Encompassing the whole of south America. Canada and the USA are too pricey and not on my radar at all. As an old retired single male It could be nice to share an apartment, especially if they knew the local language....

I can relate to fast travel while working. We would do 2wks in Asia in the spring and 2wks in Europe in the fall. Whirlwind travel, go see all the sights in 2wks. Now that we are retired we are slow traveling and loving it. We no longer go to new places (we've been to over 40 countries fast traveling), but are going back to places we've been and liked, just living like a local...well, kind of. His idea is great if you are the one deciding on where to go. Probably won't work for how we travel, but some people would like it. They have companies that do this, one month in 12 countries in one year. They arrange it for you.

@jackbaldwin3649

4 ай бұрын

Did you stay in many Airbnbs?

@darrylk808

4 ай бұрын

@jackbaldwin3649 not a single one.

I would simplify the idea. Maybe there are 6 people in each continent that rotate first. If for whatever reason a person needs to stay in a place longer maybe the other places rotate or it could be difficult. The reason Airbnb, and Agoda do so well is the weakest link in this arrangement could break the idea.

OMG!!! Best Video Introduction - EVER!!!! Great! "What if you want to....." Complete friggin opposite of Clickbait!! (what is that word?) haha. Thank you brother Dan. My younger brother from another mother.

The first question about how many cities in a wheel ran counter to my initial thought about how it would be set up with a wheel of travelers rotating through a city. This could develop into a huge undertaking with networks of overlapping wheels with travelers jumping from one city to another. Fascinating idea. Too complicated? Maybe. Build it simple. Don't worry about things like car rentals and amenities included. Just have it set up as a place to stay at a good price. Could a wheel negotiate with an Airbnb landlord to rotate through his particular rental at a reduced rate. Would that work for the landlord or would there be gaps in the wheel? It appears there are two alternate ways to envision this. The traveler centered wheel with cities revolving around him or the city centered wheel with travelers revolving through the city. I am envisioning this as a series of interconnected city wheels with travelers jumping from one wheel to another. Would this be a form of structured travel requiring the traveler to adhere to a schedule of availability? Would there only be a series of two-week gaps in each wheel for a traveler to fill?

@jackbaldwin3649

4 ай бұрын

In other words would it be like a time share with restrictions...Is that what you're saying?

Such an interesting idea.

@VagabondAwake

4 ай бұрын

Glad you think so! Stay tuned for more on this topic.

Great ideas! It seems that the first idea is a bit more flexible -- for people that don't own a house overseas to swap? So, you are thinking that each stay would only be a week? So --I guess you have some room for flexibility there? What is the ideal amount of time you all like to spend in a city? And, you are thinking each group has to have their own sheets -- that they take from city to city? Couldn't there be lots of sheets there that each group washes before they leave? I would definitely love the knowledge/ expertise that you all who've traveled so much would bring to the rest of us?

Good idea actually. Would need club membership fee. I think it would be idea to rent numerous apartments in selected cities (voted on?) Then you could slow travel between different cities all over e.g. 2 weeks - 1 or 2 month stay but at low 1 year prices. Biggest problem as has been mentioned is would the landlord be happy with lots of different people staying. And who signs the lease? They would ultimately be responsible. You would need a website setup ..contracts etc. You avoid the subletting issue if it becomes a system where each person owns an apartment and everyone signs up (different countries too) and its house swap stays. Could be a pretty big thing in a few years basically airbnb but instead of paying for apartment you stay for free or up to the tier level you pay membership for yearly. (each owned apartment is given a tier level) i dunno just rambling 😆

Survey completed and we would be members in 4+/- years when we begin full time slow traveling ourselves!

Great idea! Especially Iggy’s idea of subletting long term apartment rentals a week at a time. Allowing people to book as many weeks as they would like. But it has to be cheaper than Airbnb. Otherwise what’s the point 🤷🏻‍♂️

It feels like we may all benefit from one place to stay in each market and insights into what's around that. It seems the country report may do this. It feels like we'd want specific rentals that have reasonable rates and that's possible to achieve thru the county reports. I'd prefer to have that over being tied into a travel pattern with a group cleaning up after the same person in front of me in a travel rotation. The idea is nice, but this is how weekly and monthly rental discounts were born on Airbnb. Real question I'd like answered is WHICH Airbnb would be the solid choice in each market?

Different variation of time share, using personal ownership as exchange does not appeal to me. I can go to any city in the world an book a cheap hostel for a few days, get an idea if I like the city and then book a monthly condo should I want to stay there. From there, just use the same concept in new city. I have done this all over the world (100+ countries) and it works. I like the freedom and don't have to pay any extra membership fees or belong to an exclusive club. Also, when I was dating, I would set up meetings with international dates and often stay at their place for a week or two. Dinners would be on me. Locals know where the best food is and it's not a tourist trap,

Interesting concept. I wonder how much time and effort would be needed to make that happen? At some point you could be spending too much time making money and lose focus on the fulfillment goal.

Just saying but this smacks a little of timeshare. Since it struck me that way, it may strike others that way. I’m assuming it’s absolutely not timeshare but it might be a good idea to make that clear. Keeping within the flow of the “wheel” seems like it could decrease flexibility in locations. The whole idea of slow travel is spontaneously following your own path, right? Is part of the agreement of being in the wheel to follow in the footsteps of the people ahead of you?

What might be better would be several people, each owning a full hook-up motor home site. Then, expats in motor homes could time share their full hook-up sites with each other. If someone trashes their own motor home, it isn't the site owners problem.

@VagabondAwake

8 ай бұрын

Motor homes are not really that big outside the USA.

Not so sure about this idea. Just sounds like a variation of a time share project. I would not do it because it would tie me to a contract and that is the last thing I want in seeking freedom.

@SlowWorldTravel-cc4dt

8 ай бұрын

A timeshare purchase is a purchase that you use every year. And the maintenance fees they charge you every year for a weeks usage (or non-usage) is more than what you pay a hotel for a weeks stay. In this you pay for just one year and that's the end of it. No more payments if you don't want to travel again.

Surely 'subletting' wouldn't be allowed under the original letting agreement?

@jacqdanieles

8 ай бұрын

That was the 1st thing that occurred to me.

@SlowWorldTravel-cc4dt

8 ай бұрын

We would be renting letting the owner know that this is for a club members usage.

Why over complicate it? Why not just create an application based on a formula that already works very well i.e Booking and Airbnb ! (plenty of software already available) The issue is the pricing? Create a paid subscription members club with appropriate rules. Once members join they can then set up there own friends or group wheel 'selection list if they wish. Or am I missing something?

@jackbaldwin3649

4 ай бұрын

In your example, who would lease and be responsible for the properties in the wheel?

@VagabondAwake

2 ай бұрын

Great feedback

Wow! just blow my mind...i am definitely keen on being part of the travel club..we are living in Sydney...and hubby and i just retired and travelling the world 3 months every year...how can i contact you? (late 50s )

Good idea. You have to allow customized timeframes and you have to match or beat hotel/Airbnb pricing. Or the person to person recommendations with the wheels would have to be so valuable I would have to truly want it and pay for it.

@gentrybrown2032

8 ай бұрын

Maybe put ads on the site you use/links to travel blogs. That would help you monetize it.

@Hammocktraveller

8 ай бұрын

I fear everybody will want to make money on the run.

I had a similar idea, but one week might not suffice for everyone. I suspect this timeframe could be flexible. The idea is similar to the concept of the 90s - timeshare.

@VagabondAwake

8 ай бұрын

Except you don't buy anything so price is way way lower.

@jackbaldwin3649

4 ай бұрын

@@VagabondAwake And less risky than a Timeshare unless there's some sort of financial commitment.

Just filled out survey. Great concept. But what would be a good minimum viable product? How can you presell?. Which region could you set up fastest using your 2 networks. 8-12 week tour on a 4-6 apartment wheel that would be expanded as demand grows

@VagabondAwake

8 ай бұрын

Great suggestion!

I wanna be like you when I grow up.

Not sure if it would work for me, I don't live in a tourist center city.

The only problem I can see is the handoff process from one traveler to the next. Will there be a key lock box for each rental? Otherwise I can see one tenant needing to leave but the other tenant will not arrive for several hours. How will the handoff happen?

@tutubogeorge

5 ай бұрын

When I rented an Airbnb, the accommodations had a keypad entry system. You would enter a 4 digit code (ex: last four digits of telephone number, if you’re comfortable). Then when you leave property owner would clear code and reset for next guest.

Big flaw is, what makes you think the home owners will agree to having different people from the original renters who sign the lease?

@VagabondAwake

5 ай бұрын

It would have to be part of the lease agreement. That you could sublet while you travel so long as rent was kept current.

Really not interested in leaving one job/system for another.

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Hi Dan I am interested in this concept for 12 members doing this one month in each city. Can I get an email to contact you and Iggy. Myself and my wife want to this. Currently in Vancouver Canada

@VagabondAwake

8 ай бұрын

iggy1955@gmail.com

@VagabondAwake

8 ай бұрын

My contact: vagabondbuddha.com/contact/

Ok I'm going to fairly blunt about my assessment of your business plan. I think its a terrible plan. In theory it sounds interesting as a way to lower travel costs, but it would be a logistics nightmare to put such a plan together and may not even be feasible. First off I would never rent out my property if I knew that 10-20 different people would be staying there during the course of the year. Insurance premiums would be very high. What would be the benefit to such a landlord to give a reduced long term rental rate to someone when essentially it is treated as an Airbnb? Secondly, it totally defeats the purpose of long term slow travel when you need to commit to such a schedule. Slow travel is all about taking your time to experience different cultures and not being pressured to stay longer or shorter at a given place because everything is pre-booked. Taking away a traveller's freedom is a huge price to pay. Also as a slow traveller you can get pretty decent rates if you stay a full week to a month in the same place. Dan you have shown this in many of your videos. Thirdly, how will you get agreement among the participants as to in which country you will stay for a given week or month? Who wants to stay in a place when its rainy season, or during the cold months. I don't know of many people who will travel to colder countries in the winter, everyone wants to be south! Also what if I want to be in a certain country during an annual festival or celebration of some sort. What if the weather turns bad for an extended period but I am forced to stay because its my week or month? How miserable! How will you compromise among participants when some prefer to stay in the countryside, or by the beach, or in the heart of the city? What if there is a family emergency or have sudden health issues, will the participant be forced to pay anyways? To summarize this plan seems very restrictive and would take away my freedom as a traveller all to maybe save a few bucks. And there is no guarantee I will even save because there are deals and opportunities that can crop up at any time without notice. I assume there will be extra costs to pay to be a member as well, costs which I don't have right now. This sounds to me like a money making venture which only the promoters will benefit (and maybe not even).

@VagabondAwake

2 ай бұрын

Great feedback.

How different from time share?

@VagabondAwake

8 ай бұрын

Slow travel is consecutive stays in same year. Time share is 1 or 2 weeks per year.

@SlowWorldTravel-cc4dt

8 ай бұрын

A timeshare purchase is a purchase that you use every year. And the maintenance fees they charge you every year for a weeks usage (or non-usage) is more than what you pay a hotel for a weeks stay. In this you pay for just one year and that's the end of it. No more payments if you don't want to travel again.

…..trying to find the survey…..

@iggyignatius

8 ай бұрын

Its right under VAGABOND AWAKE on the top left below the video

@VagabondAwake

8 ай бұрын

Its the top comment now, pinned to the top.

20 minutes to tell me this, sorry

@jacqdanieles

8 ай бұрын

Play at 2x 😊

@jackbaldwin3649

4 ай бұрын

@@jacqdanieles lol

Your background is so beautiful!!

@VagabondAwake

8 ай бұрын

Glad you like it!