Rip Crystal. He popped off and went crazy just to get disqualified

@Jdogrey1

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Got absolutely cheated by both Fia and the moderation team just for living somewhere.

@Theunicorn2012

7 ай бұрын

Rip Crystal. He popped off and went crazy just to get disqualified

@dejxyoob1730

Ай бұрын

@@Theunicorn2012 word for word

I don't know what is more insane, the fact that a single cheater ruined the entire Chinese team, or the fact that if chicony wasn't suspicious and didn't researched more he probably could get away with it. What a world we live in

@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal

Жыл бұрын

True

@Jdogrey1

Жыл бұрын

I am truly disgusted that the Chinese team was disqualified when they were all clearly better than their opponents without Fia. Fia honestly brought their score down.

@foxtail286

Жыл бұрын

@@Jdogrey1 it would have been extremely inconvenient, although i would have liked to see that

@almire

Жыл бұрын

Except Fia was also cheating in earlier parts of the tournament where fia was performing way better than when they were caught. Maybe they still could have made it to this point and won but you just don't know and its a good precedent to set.

@worst-hd-player

Жыл бұрын

@@Jdogrey1 that’s how it works, one player of your team cheats, the whole team is out. Like that in any team oriented game or sport as well.

I feel so bad for Crystal, he's such a consistent and all-rounded tournament player

@megalovania_lol

Жыл бұрын

@Feng Qi Guo I don't know man, crystal main ctb and also play std really well, but if you were to put him in a taiko or mania tournament he's not going to win.

@pfofe

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he didn't deserve to get kicked out the tournament along with his othet teammates

@megalovania_lol

Жыл бұрын

@Feng Qi Guo Ah, then yeah you're right. Tournaments like that would make him a monster considering he basically can play 2 modes by himself, I thought you meant singular tournaments for modes, because like, I main taiko and never saw Crystal on any tournament here.

@roarbertbearatheon8565

Жыл бұрын

He plays with cheaters though

@nightfox6738

Жыл бұрын

@@roarbertbearatheon8565 The whole point is he didn't know Fia was cheating. How do people not get this? If they knew Fia was cheating they wouldn't have allowed him on the team so no. He doesn't intentionally play with cheaters and his accomplishment shouldn't have been struck from the tournament. They should have zeroed Fia's scores and allowed the legit players on China's team to continue playing with 7.

I remember when everyone was clowning on Chicony but he turned out to be right 😭

@dcs_0

Жыл бұрын

tbf, it was more the manner in which he went about them

@junkonya

Жыл бұрын

yeah, these clown were hilarious

@cr3ezy35

Жыл бұрын

@@dcs_0 who's "them"? no disrespect for other chinese players, just calling out one person in particular man, i hate those omerican wokies

@missia3741

Жыл бұрын

Still handled it like a bitch though

@CalzaRage

Жыл бұрын

he deserved to be clowned on tbf, he went abt it horribly

I can't describe how much daunting it is to play against a cheater In our match against China. Fia had a 2.9 match cost, fced every single one of the 6 maps we played, playing against a team that gets 950k average by default from one player is a nightmare, not counting the fact that crystal played absolutely incredible. I just feel kinda sad for the rest of the team who wanted to play the tournament, and could've possibly placed top 12 even without Fia

@klutzmtg2310

Жыл бұрын

I feel especially bad for Crystal. They played like a god in some of those maps and Fia just took away that moment from them.

@AoiTheIdolLover

Жыл бұрын

@@klutzmtg2310 I know, it's just sad

@epmcgee

Жыл бұрын

@@klutzmtg2310 the team chose to move forward with a sketchy player with no verification because it suited them. They should have done their due diligence.

@autosemimatic6071

Жыл бұрын

@@epmcgee it took a crazy stance in the owc and tons and tons of people to find out the whole story, its not so easy to just find out someones cheating if they just present themselves as someone who doesnt communicate a lot and is a good player, they prob just ignored it and moved on like they shouldve. u cant play them for not knowing a cheater was in their team the whole time if theres no reason to believe so

@Exilitate

Жыл бұрын

@@epmcgee bro its a community for fun event, no one should be having to do "DD" on their team for CHEATING

I feel kinda sad for all the teams that got eliminated by China before China got banned and the other Chinese players who were looking really good Fia pulled down her own team and other teams as well

@absurddive

Жыл бұрын

This is not the first time a Chinese team is involved in a cheating fiasco

@uniter343

Жыл бұрын

"FIAsco"

@iamaverygoodboi

Жыл бұрын

@@absurddive oh I didn't know

@ITotallyGetThat

Жыл бұрын

​@@absurddive Wilben_Chan in TWC 🙃

@osuplaeyurreallygood

Жыл бұрын

fia is a man lol

That ending was the plot twist to end all plot twists. I thought things that insane only happened in fiction

@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal

Жыл бұрын

Fax, seeing this all unfold was an unreal experience LOL

@whiteRiceSupremacist

Жыл бұрын

That was a pretty obvious plot wdy

@kingcrustytut7544

Жыл бұрын

straight out of an anime lol

@covereye5731

Жыл бұрын

If you wanted to cheat, it would always be better to do so under a fake persona. And there was only person in clear control over this persona. The only insane thing is that Rio was too lazy to make a new social presence for Fia.

@ragestuffin

Жыл бұрын

and to have the mental capacity to be two people not at a time, but BOTH at the same time well I guess its easier online but still I didn't think anyone was crazy enough to pull this off

Imagine making a collab with yourself 💀

marking a true end to this whole "fia"sco :tf:

@mqosu

Жыл бұрын

Go to pun jail

I had my suspicions of Rio & Fia being the same person based on personal experience online. I used to have an online friend, who blocked me after I asked if the gf account was also him. Had another friend who'd only communicate through someone else

@abcdefghilihgfedcba

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I wasn’t surprised at all by that revelation. Being 31 and having been around online for now a good 18 years I can say it’s got all the telltale signs of an alt account.

@nozuchan

Жыл бұрын

oh my god, that happened to my old community back then too, one of the guys suddenly has a "gf" and brags to everyone. i found out later on when one of his close friend calls the gf name with his name and he replies as him

@seafoam8845

Жыл бұрын

@@abcdefghilihgfedcba The telltale signs?

@UrMom-yf2nr

9 ай бұрын

This is nothing lmao. You had gays pretending to be girls in 2000s mmos to get free shit. “My brother/sister/friend” has always been the bullshit excuse lul

@angelwater8987

7 ай бұрын

I am me My girlfriend is me My daughter is also me Anyone who questions, gets blocked - most sane mabinogi user in NA

Some more context on a couple of things: China's win against Russia could have bern almost unaffected if Fia wasn't there. Her score decided the outcome only on 1 map and even then her absense could have been made up for. Apparently, Chicony(and some other members of the community) actually had gathered a lot more evidence by the time of his "lost to a cheater" tweet but it was only revealed to a small group of people on stream(not even his stream i am pretty sure) and was not discovered at the time of his osu report thread. His position seems unjustified at first, but he actually had reasons to be confident in his allegations

@sublime_tv

Жыл бұрын

It's scary how especially these days people need to phrase their words carefully, because even if they are correct, people will dismiss them if it's disseminated as an attack. People should learn to scrutinize more instead of saying things like "you're just jelly bro, git gud".

@naffing5754

Жыл бұрын

@@sublime_tv it's just unfortunate that he didin't have time to show the evidence he had before the match and of course he was salty after the match. I'd be too honestly

@estelle4778

Жыл бұрын

nope. that is the outcome you forget the russia prob salty because they know they dealing with cheater. That is the point what happens if world cup and the others team is cheating mid match. do you think the legit team gonna have the stable mental to do their best?

@naffing5754

Жыл бұрын

@@estelle4778 also might be true but i believe that if they got 4 points off and even 1 against Fia they maybe had a good mental going

@estelle4778

Жыл бұрын

@@naffing5754 watch the Chess hans nieman vs magnus. Magnus was salty because he lost to hans and also he suspect hans is cheating whether hans cheating or not. The fact that magnus was salty because either he lost due to his blunder, han cheat or both. The mental game make him unable to win vs much worse opponent which is like 200-300 points below him which in chess is a lot

I don't even play Osu and found this story crazy and interesting to follow. And what a plot twist at the end there!

@PerfectOxygen

Жыл бұрын

same mate

@pxmpkxn6163

Жыл бұрын

Same!!! Ive known about this game for quite a while, just never been able to play it 🙃

@ebc6970

Жыл бұрын

I used to play regularly years ago until I stopped. This still intrigued me.

"You thought it was Fia, but in reality it was ME, FUSHIMI"

What's even worse is that the Chinese community had suspected Fia for a long time - hence this "joint performance" by Fia and Rio origins, to deflect a suspicions. In the end, she was accepted her as "innocent until proven guilty." To its own disaster for China team. You say it was an embarrassment for the OWC - what if, for example, China had won a medal and prize money? THAT would have been an embarrassment probably for the rest of the game's existence.... And it was not out of the question - Korea (and later Poland) showed that the United States are not unbeatable. PS. This "mapping in a similar way" was even crazier - both accounts hosted each other's mapsets, gave Guest Diffs to them, succesfully Ranked them.... They even teased each other in comments and discussions about them! And that's all in FEW DOZENS of mapsets! This, by the way, is thought to be the reason for this whole madness - one of Rio's maps was disqualified for Ranked at the last minute for.... copying fragments from Fia. Either he decided to take revenge or he was scared of being caught - so regardless of the reason he decided to leave in style.

@abbc5156

Жыл бұрын

When creating an imaginary girlfriend goes too far

@saintofthechurchofautism8433

Жыл бұрын

When Schizo posting gone too far

@Metrallata

Жыл бұрын

Bro look at the profile pics

@pebbleman721

Жыл бұрын

@@Metrallata it can just be "friends" sharing a themed pfp, explanation used to explain the pfp

@MasterAnimit

Жыл бұрын

@@abbc5156 ​ @Saint of The Church of Autism It's also one of minor theories, firstly underestimated but after discovering this mess - clasified as possible

I feel bad for the China team for losing their accomplishment, because of Fia.

@-sava5938

Жыл бұрын

Lol ? Do u rly think what players of that level didnt know about Fia and her "good skill in this game" ? Fia and all China team deserve to permaban. You cant just play with cheater in one team, win and after say like " i didnt know ". This is tales for kids

@-sava5938

Жыл бұрын

@Blynn They took her to the team themselves, they trained with her, they won games and they definitely saw her replays on the stream. You can tell this story to children who are naive enough. The only reason why the entire Chinese team wasn't banned is because it's hard to prove that they knew or not, but it's morally obvious.

@-sava5938

Жыл бұрын

@Blynn You can see examples of such situations in more serious and eSports games. Cheats and 322 - ban the whole team, you take a person to the team - you are responsible for this, if this person is banned - you are also to blame for this.

@Extrinoo

Жыл бұрын

@@-sava5938 what rank are you? training for OWC is not the same as in other esports.

@Eminence_1337

Жыл бұрын

nah screw china I feel bad for Italy and UK

In China we have a saying goes like”一颗老鼠屎，毁了一锅粥” which means “A little piece of turd could ruin a whole pot of soup.”

@fumui_

Жыл бұрын

copied, might be useful if I ever encountered more chinese cheater again heheh

@fangbozhu7379

Жыл бұрын

@@fumui_ lmao i can see where you're coming from, but when you see a chinese cheater it's probably much more effective to just use NMSL

@keigzerg743

Жыл бұрын

@@fangbozhu7379 hahahahahahha

@fumui_

Жыл бұрын

@@fangbozhu7379 What's an "NMSL"?

@fangbozhu7379

Жыл бұрын

@@fumui_ it stands for "you're motherless" in chinese

feel bad for that dude that carried them due to the cheaters blunders felt like his carrying efforts went in vain coz of that disqualification

Fia is such a disappointment from our country

19 minutes ago i tripped on the asphalt with my mcdonalds tea and now i have a broken ankle. frick you whoever made this road so long.

@pan_jam

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@OperatorError0919

Жыл бұрын

Is the tea ok?

@rubyy.7374

Жыл бұрын

Drink more milk

@Homiloko2

Жыл бұрын

This is why I don't leave my house

@zilongma5067

Жыл бұрын

@@Homiloko2 No Osu player leaves their house let's be honest.

Most people rejected His message. They hated Chicony because He told them the truth

@legendarymapler2889

Жыл бұрын

Spoken like a true robeater

@menjolno

Жыл бұрын

And you picked his side because it was over

@juztify3311

Жыл бұрын

@@menjolno legitimately 💀

@PokerZoomer

Жыл бұрын

Shut up!

@bennybouken

Жыл бұрын

@@menjolno fax right here

Imagine having the balls to risk going down in history as the first cheater who got caught mid game in the Osu world cup.

@Theunicorn2012

7 ай бұрын

Imagine having the balls to risk going down in history as the first cheater who got caught mid game in the Osu world cup.

@JustShiiro

7 ай бұрын

Imagine having the balls to risk going down in history as the first cheater who got caught mid game in the Osu world cup. @@Theunicorn2012

most 5Head cheating scandal ever

@osuplaeyurreallygood

Жыл бұрын

except not really because they got caught in the stupidest way possible

@zaihten

Жыл бұрын

@@osuplaeyurreallygood i mean, not really. it was just that chicony noticed something off, and revealed to be this. not really stupid, just got caught like any other cheater

@booIin

Жыл бұрын

The best cheater has never been caught

@hweioah4520

Жыл бұрын

@@osuplaeyurreallygood I mean not really fia revealed that she had replay cheated in the past and didn’t get caught, idk man cheating in the past and not getting caught is some 5head stuff

@retrolyzee

Жыл бұрын

@@booIin mrekk!

i'm sorry, why did it take them so long to realize they were the same person? that was literally the first thought i had when i heard she communicated through a friend.

@mk96437

Жыл бұрын

fr looool

@Kakerate2

Жыл бұрын

same, didn't need to write a whole 42 pg manifesto to prove it LMA

@Axaptice

Жыл бұрын

One thing was that PinkHeart and Imoutosan/Fushimi Rio as mappers had pretty different and recognizable styles. Something that would probably be impossible to keep consistent for as long as they did before Fushimi Rio got the account (several years of ranked maps). It was definitely a point of debate in the mapping community of what exactly happened here. The player community got its closure when they found out it was all replay submission but as far as the mapping goes we still don't have a perfect idea. The main theory people have is the one presented in the video where Fushimi Rio is doing all the mapping for both accounts but there's still some doubt to whether PinkHeart has no access to the account as Fia had produced some extremely distinctive stuff even after the namechange (Countdown to the Blue comes to mind).

@NotFine

Жыл бұрын

Hindsight is 20/20 I guess

@GraveUypo

Жыл бұрын

@@NotFine that wasn't hindsight, that thought came before the video mentioned they were the same person.

Ohhhhh. I remember seeing that 44 page thing and since I am not really into osu tournaments, drama etc I had no idea who fushimi rio or these were and what it even was all about. Thanks for this video it really cleared out things that I had already forgotten about lol.

How nobody was suspicious beforehand that they are the same person is beyond me.

@kainovll

Жыл бұрын

They were it’s just that they both played in tournaments a the same time together which meant they couldn’t be the same person until the replay botting evidence came out

This is why we always get nervous when 视频游戏黑客 joins a match

@TohsakaRinsThighs

Жыл бұрын

When the enemy clan in a coc clan war has a Chinese name:

@fumui_

Жыл бұрын

when 视频游戏黑客 has a multikill in CSGO, me: hmm... (Tab, Right Click, See Profile)

@comet7760

Жыл бұрын

@@fumui_ In the asian server, almost all of the cheaters are chinese. Not saying all chinese are cheaters, but most cheaters are chinese because they have this mindset of being "the top and the best", whatever it takes". Source of my claim? The chinese cheaters on BF V, Apex, PUBG, Forza, GTA, Among Us (lol, I shit you not they even cheat in a non competitive game).

@fumui_

Жыл бұрын

@@comet7760 yep thats why I always Tab, Right Click, See Profile if they have 500+ Hours -> I will spectate them until I see a prove beyond unreasonable doubt that they cheat before reporting if they have less than that or the account was blank or privated, then I immediately reported them

I feel bad for the other 6 people in china team that have nothing to do with this and getting disqualified. Damn if I were in they place I would be mad AF at rio for cheating.

I don 't get how these online tournaments don't require handcams.

After watching this I honestly wonder how many other players like this are out there doing this. That’s just crazy

rip to crystals man that save was immaculate to watch and just one guy had to ruin it

@chanhkhiemtran9010

9 ай бұрын

Yeah,Like Crystal is working his b hole off to save his team and ultimately win it,but because of ONE PERSON,it all gone If he didn’t think of suicide when he know that info. I don’t know what will

i feel really bad for the china team, they played so well especially crystal, only to get shafted by a cheater. also hell of a twist with fushimi, cant escape your cheating also chicony being moderately salty and butthurt made people look closer and actually find the truth, the guy who called him toxic did not look good lol, sometimes people are gonna be sore losers dont be that guy

after this, I think *one of* the solution is to require all players to livestream the tournament either publicly or privately to the tourney mods. (with regulated sufficient quality & framerate) I don't know if it's practical or not, but for me that is surely one of the best solution I can think of

@ishkar5k

Жыл бұрын

not sure if it could be done, since not everyone in the owc has a strong enough pc/bandwidth to stream and play at the same time. But also this isn't 2009 anymore, the majority has the power to do the things above. Maybe don't require it, but encourage streaming on tournmants

@zeqizhang5860

Жыл бұрын

maybe required after semifinals

@sakuraxavier4748

Жыл бұрын

I think it's practical. I get lag on osu but I can still stream and the lag points would be the same with or without streaming honestly, I am on a laptop and just play for fun but if I can do it then I think most should be able too. I mean I run most games at like 30fps LMAO

@descai10

Жыл бұрын

@@ishkar5k if they don't have a good enough pc then they don't get to play in the tourney.

@fumui_

Жыл бұрын

@@sakuraxavier4748 bruh AR 10 or 11 would be impossible in that tho 😆

dear tournament streamers: you can save a player's replay from the results screen by clicking their window and hitting F2 this may be somewhat relevant to the general topic of this video

@ITotallyGetThat

Жыл бұрын

@@junkonya i have literally done this and caught a cheater in 6wc

@BlueChinchompa

Жыл бұрын

@@ITotallyGetThat oh shit theres a 6 digit world cup?

@junkonya

Жыл бұрын

@@ITotallyGetThat i heard some time ago that it was impossible xd, thx for correcting me.

"just happened"

The Fushimi Rio & Fia being the same person was so obvious lmfao.

@bentacool8114

Жыл бұрын

Their profile pictures are even of the same two characters!

@vonwaq

Жыл бұрын

@@bentacool8114 ? do you not know what a collab is

@bentacool8114

Жыл бұрын

@@vonwaq I've never heard of people doing a collab with their osu profile pics before

@leonn1805

Жыл бұрын

@@bentacool8114 you must be damn new then cuz this is an extremely common thing for osu

@bentacool8114

Жыл бұрын

@@leonn1805 I never interacted with the community much so that's why I don't know about it

I heard this story before, but wasn't aware yet that Fushimi Rio and Fia are one person. Wow, my mind is blown away

Bro that one with remembering where to put your mouse, is the wildest claim ever. Osu! Players just don’t need to remember it, for some other games it’s optimal to and other things with remembering things for different kinds of maps or something or other, honestly. I guess it all worked out though 😅

Me: Never even heard of osu before Video: "Player Caught Cheating!" Also me: How dare they sully the good name and integrity of this game I know nothing about!

@npcimknot958

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂 same

Things like this is exactly why games even chess require people to be on live webcam for any competitive setting and I believe OSU will eventually have similar requirements of a live hand cam at the very least an unfortunate circumstance for individuals who actually struggle due to computer speeds.

@paulsd9255

6 ай бұрын

Still won’t detect someone shoving vibrating beads up where the Sun don’t shine

i honestly dont get why people would cheat in a tournament. Like the moment someone gets suspicious youre done

that plottwist was insane

I dont know what the fuck this game is, but i like seeing cheaters get punished

10:30 true end to this whole "fia"sco

Kudos to Osu for not protecting cheaters unlike Activision in Warzone. 😂

Oh my lord! This is such a well made video :o Thanks for putting the time in to make it!

-1000 social credit

Remember that we can't just say that an entire country is bad just because of 1 person

@adareq523

7 ай бұрын

Fr

@paulsd9255

6 ай бұрын

You could say it’s because of two persons, except they’re both the same person.

@SystemHasFailed1989

24 күн бұрын

Nah, not when they are caught cheating more times than anyone else. Its a country filled with many bad apples and of course it is, that's communism in a nutshell.

buying 3 different laptops, and replay submitting in tournaments with 3 multis to take over the tournaments, see you soon

I think OSU should make it mandatory to have cameras pointed at the players and their desks like every other eSport/game tournament. It would not only give more evidence but act as a deterrent as well.

Fia and Fushimi Rio being the same person is like predicting a plot twist that i knew it was comimg

Feels bad for the rest of them especialy Crystal, there are genuine og good player there but this incident and after that the situation in China is not so good the other consequence of this incident is also give legit offline player a bad name. At this point when I see a player boasting about their gain, goals or bla bla bla personal life I end up put them on red flag list before believe they are legit player.

Don’t watch osu but Fia vs Fushimi Rio must’ve been crazy

There have been 2 Cheaters in Taiko World Cups before 2018 and 2020 which were caught and got restricted

Enforce required cameras on at all times during play and require all replays to be submitted after each session. You need to approach tournament play like Chess does when it comes to anti-cheating measures.

Fia's identity was obvious before the reveal, but glad it got confirmed.

playing on two different accounts during a tournament is crazy

i've never played osu, but man i was never expecting this twist.

I feel so bad for crystal and the other China members tbh.

willy: finally, it's over. me: nice willy: ONE WEEK LATER me: oh shit here we go

I saw the title and m brain thought it was spaceUK related

My jaw dropped down to the floor with a speed of 727kmh when it was revealed that both of them were the SAME PERSON

I dont even play osu but this case is wild, the way they figure it out and the 40 page document is nut

just happend?? dawg this was 10 years ago 😭

@ishkar5k

Жыл бұрын

It happened on 1856 wdymmmmm

@mqosu

Жыл бұрын

lol this happened in 30 BC you knuckleheads I was there

@definetlynotabot

Жыл бұрын

Bro you both dumb, that happened on the Big Bang

@Dullsonic3

Жыл бұрын

This actually happened at the Big Bang. I was there when it happened

@rubik690

Жыл бұрын

It happened months ago not just happened

When you think about it, the best cheater in the game has yet to be caught 🤔

@triparadox.c

Жыл бұрын

Imagine people back then were thinking Shroud was so good at PUBG, and he actually cheated

@davidsantoso2291

Жыл бұрын

@@triparadox.c well he obviously didn't because he's playing at top level at every game he plays. It's much harder to cheat on 1 game than multiple games that has a strong anti cheat on.

What I truly feel sad about is the fact that the rest of the Chinese team trusted each other. Seeing them winning gave them that “false hope” that their hard work is finally putting in good use. To find out this whole time you were carried by a cheater ? Must really make one hopeless. I also feel bad about Italy and the UK, getting beaten by a cheater must’ve been a hard pill to swallow. I hope they get at least a chance to play again but I doubt it.

Every time someone comes out as " I know this popular yet unseen by anyone internet guy who made an oopsie but they're really sorry I wish I could tell you" I immediately know it's them all along.

the fushimi rio being fia thing is honestly so sad if I were them I’d end it all after that stinker dropped 😂😂😂

looks like osu and geometry dash have something in common

Why are people feeling more sorry for the Chinese team and not all the other teams that had to play fairly against cheaters

i dont play this game but SURELY layering the teams ontop of eachother is better than forcing spectators to try and look at 8 extremely fast pace games at once?

@hotgayfurryfeet

6 ай бұрын

due to how the osu client work it's impossible to do so rn, but even if it's possible it's gonna be really hard to see if one player is poping of or not since if there's a miss it's gonna be difficult to see who miss the note, or if multiple players miss at the same note

@triplej8666

2 ай бұрын

that would be impossible

now im curious, what font do you use for your thumbs? looks really clean and i might use it for some future videos of mine

@imsuck12

Жыл бұрын

Torus

wtfff the plot twist caught me so off guard. This is one hell of a story.

i love how you picked forsaken as your intro

That twist at the end was something else damn. Did not see that one coming.

New Sub here. Don't even care one bit about Osu! But your commentary got me hooked. Cheers from Philippines!

Still feel bad for Crystal

I cant handle the fact that he wont stop saying "Ose" or whatever bothers the shit out of me tbh

I predicted the "this person is Fia" twist the moment it was stated Fia only communicated through them as a proxy.

That username readoff was the most awkwardly predictable string of names I could have thought of Especially "Joseph Joestar" jfc I feel called out by myself lol

damn, i can't believe there's such a sizable e-sports presence for a game that was based off elite beat agents, a relatively obscure DS title of all things

My biggest claim to fame is taking part in an osu! world cup. We came 4th so I didn't even get a badge :(

"osu lags if I connect to bancho" That was SUCH BS, I've played osu on a dual core system with a 1mbps connection and have never suffered "lag" while connected. Why is it that every time I read "cheating drama", China's somehow involved? Chinese players have even cheated on non badged tourneys, like WTF? Shame. Context for my rant: A Chinese team cheated during the "4Digit Mania World Cup" and got perma-banned from it IIRC, we faced said team (I was livid when I found out)

@Antside

Жыл бұрын

Apparently other people have said their osu also lags when they connect to bancho, dunno the validity of those claims tho

@Exarvi

Жыл бұрын

@@Antside validity is almost none as i played on 12y potato before and somewhere in 2018 my fps doubled to 250 after multi threading came in.

@Exarvi

Жыл бұрын

Not even mentioning bancho itself requires close to no bandwidth, like even super slow internet under 1mbps should be enough

@poni-sz2pm

Жыл бұрын

It's true, osu! lags when connection to bancho while playing but it's closer to losing few frames or a short freeze rather than whatever happened on the video

@Exarvi

Жыл бұрын

@@poni-sz2pm osu casually drops a few frames every so often, not limited to connecting to bancho. I have like 2500 fps in this game and still can see slight lag spikes.

Thanks Wilson for the Precept on The Brobdingnagian Skulduggery Impropriety in Osu!'s Annals i don't even care they cheated im just mad they will never make maps again

Can you link the reddit links and the long analysis from team China? Thanks

wow china and cheating, name a more iconic duo

Once you said it was a tournament about people representing their country I instantly knew you were going to say China. THeir gaming culture is beyond fucked because the Chinese don't view cheating as being bad. To them using any and all possible advantages is the way to play games. This is why most of the players who cheat tend to originate from China.

@czaa4120

Жыл бұрын

This is indeed the truth. But I believe that good gamers are definitely in the majority.The internal game environment in China is really a mess.I hope it gets better and better. Amen😓

Feels like the first time to have someone actively being 2 different people, but I doubt it will be the last. I'm fairly certain there have been other instances in the speedrunning community at the very least, where someone came back as a different name after being removed before for cheating.

@gairisiuil

10 ай бұрын

i've done this in the mcpk community but not to avoid responsibility for cheating, i just hated that everyone already knew who i was

Osu version of spaceuk

the plot twist was crazy 😬

Anyone who ever played an mmo can't be one bit surprised by the "plot twist" at the end

@danielyuan9862

Жыл бұрын

I don't know what an mmo is, but this happened irl, and I doubt whatever you're talking about is irl.

@flariz4824

Жыл бұрын

@@danielyuan9862 This comments gives me second-hand embarrassment.

Cheating is the only thing new gen gamers know how to do, it's sad. The osu community is toxic as hell though so what's a bit more drama but anything they desserve.

The account dupe was a wild twist that suddenly makes sense of the avatar of both being the exact same picture, but highlighting the other character that's off-screen. This person *was wagging it around in front of everyone the entire time* and it took the biggest tournament to actually expose that.

@tarotsushima3332

10 ай бұрын

Matching pfps is sth a lot of internet friends do so that's not exactly a gotcha. The fact that they share a social media account and Fia only talks through Fushimi was a dead giveaway though

Could you explain the evidence that was found to ban Fia? I didn't really understand it. Was her best play of one of the tournament maps the exact same as the gameplay that was shown in the tournament?

@Bennyoberwinch

Жыл бұрын

Yes pretty much If you pause at 7:21 , you'll see how someone accused her of re-using her own replay for the tournament Even though it's unclear where they got the replay from, it linked to Fia's profile and was rock-solid evidence that she was indeed cheating and using old plays to guarantee good tournament scores

@hecatia8326

8 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Bennyoberwinchjust a small correction, both scores were done in solo play and not in tournament. It was two scores using different mod combinations (HD & NFHD) on the same map, allowing for both replays to be retrieved. As tournaments use scorev2, tournament scores are not saved as replays into osu’s database and therefore cannot be retrieved at a later date. Unless the player or a spectator saves the replay.

my favorite captain chicone

@Chicony

Жыл бұрын

FAVYSD

@killerpaja03

Жыл бұрын

@@Chicony my favorite female player chicony

Fushimi Rio vs Fia in a tournament setting be kinda crazy lmao. Playing against yourself.

@kkasfa1596

10 ай бұрын

Playing against yourself funnily enough is probably a genuine way to see how much you improved. But in this setting yeah it's kinda nuts 😅

Not sure how relevent this is to the current game being discussed. I played against a player ranked in the top 50 in a state for the game Guitar Hero. At the time, I was somewhere between a low end Expert level player and the difficulty below that. What I found was they had practiced at such high speed that at lower speeds they were not as proficient as I was. I would have been destroyed at the highest difficulty no question.

Hey. I only been playing osu for around 1 year if that so there is one thing about this whole cheating scandal. If tournaments are hosted live then how does a replay get played in a group lobby. I didn't think that replays were even able to be chosen in that kind of situation. How would choosing a replay file not look suspicious to anyone. I just don't understand how it wouldn't look immediately different to everyone if someone can see the songs you pick. Trust me. I do not condone cheating. Never have, never will. I just want to really understand so I know what to look for if I think someone is in fact cheating. Thanks.

@sum9586

Жыл бұрын

You would probably use some special program to act out the replays, you are not playing the file, you are just copying its mouse and keyboard movements

@clevahh_plays3176

Жыл бұрын

@@sum9586 ohhhhh ok. That makes sense.

Might be slight bias for lack of better word, but it seemed painfully obvious Fia didn't exist, based on only having seen this video and having no prior knowledge. Like stated in the video, the constant lack of being able to provide basic proof of replays and basic existence, as well as the matching profiles, seemed quite blatant no? Maybe I'm wrong and overthinking, but good video nonetheless !

Multiplayer games are practically Slime-Magnets. It's been this way since the beginning.

is the pronunciation really "oas" (like oats without the t)? I've only ever heard it as "oh sue" because that's how it's spelled