The Big Push - War Pigs (Black Sabbath cover)
Busking on the streets of Brighton
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This and the rest of our busking covers are now available on Spotify! Stream the full album here: open.spotify.com/album/409of5DPsmqd0T8KNfqjLG?si=JcS5OMdTTXmc3p5l64Foew
@iisGavin
Жыл бұрын
Not anymore it isn't :c
@UnitedDiversity
Жыл бұрын
@@iisGavin all the songs are available on here so I've downloaded and re-created the album locally. Although I'm slightly confused because this track is 4:11 but on Spotify it says it's 5:04 so I'm wondering it's actually another version that I can't find on KZread that was previously included on Spotify @TheBigPushBand
@IXIFrostIXI
Жыл бұрын
Yo get this up !
@lydiagrace178
Жыл бұрын
Need it on appleeee
@craiganderson-jones4916
Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing there's copyright issues or something preventing this from playing?
This is the happiest sounding sabbath cover I’ve ever heard
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@apexvwarrior8082
2 жыл бұрын
They haven’t tuned step down that’s why
@apexvwarrior8082
2 жыл бұрын
Also the other guitar player hits the higher notes of the bar chord
@billragle7655
2 жыл бұрын
It's good..but by Nature Us White People Like heavy Metel Very hard loud and anything gose.. Don't really know why that is? I'm spoosing because of are demad for everything in this World even tho we always have to much anyway..but just being for right with you my friend..
@nathandoung6197
2 жыл бұрын
100% agree
That transition to killing in the name to paranoid was smooth as hell. As always, what a live performance!!
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks dude xx
@edwardssistershands
2 жыл бұрын
They didn't ever go into killing in the name of, tbh. It was just sort of a nod. I think the better nod was crazy train to start the solo.
@Benjamin-om3ih
2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget crazy train
@T1tusCr0w
Жыл бұрын
Man I liked the choices this band made. Old man here, but yeah it still hits the spot. Used to go to a Scottish rock club and they ALWAYS finished the night with - killing in the name of. I really like how they straighten out the beat. It kinda modernises the song while keeping that epic energy it is. 💪🏻
@markcoutts1796
Жыл бұрын
@@T1tusCr0w I agree with you. The way they did all of it seemed modern but hard & heavy like in the hay day of their original conception. He seems to be quite a versatile performer. He's got the potential to go as far as he's willing to go with his performing as far as Im concerned.
I just fucking love Rens smile during that epic guitar solo. They all just seem to be enjoing making magic together. No pretentious bs, just letting them all have their space. I really dig it ❤
@biblicalle972
Ай бұрын
That’s ren ?
@2011vantage
27 күн бұрын
@@biblicalle972Ren is the lead vocalist. Check out his solo sh*t if you want to really be blown away.
The vocals, guitars, vibes = immaculate. This is not busking this is a concert!! So much actual talent it hurts!
@cm9241
8 ай бұрын
How were the vocals good?
OMG that guitar solo is just perfect.
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate!
@jeanna7851
Жыл бұрын
💯
@soundstation8343
Жыл бұрын
oh damn
The energy seeping from the screen is what makes me want to live a little more 😂
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Big love xx
@gabrieltesla6536
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBigPushBand I'm the biggest Brazilian fan of "Big push"! Because the band's musical energy has always positively energized my mind, even during my "terrible crisis" Euphoria, depression. I identify with Ren's compositions. Songs save lives! ✨💛
@garethdebeer8827
2 жыл бұрын
People kept on talking about how normal the drummer looks and I think he took that personally
@tokiburoak7457
2 жыл бұрын
If your government overlords let you that is...
@sabotaje4174
2 жыл бұрын
@@garethdebeer8827 LMAO ☠☠☠
The arrangement. The execution. The contagious joy emanating from the band and moving through the audience is why live music cannot be beaten. Not in a million years. I also love that Ren isn't trying to do an Ozzy impression, and his vocals are natural and perfect. The comradery of the band is infectious and because they are having such a blast the audience responds in kind. As an old rocker, it is so comforting to see a real rock band perform without teleprompters or backing tracks. The kids are alright, indeed.
@carinmiller9211
24 күн бұрын
This was my first album. I stole it from my dad when he bought me my first stereo for Christmas when I was 13. It had a record player, but I had no albums. I listened to it over and over. He got mad, but it was a proud kinda mad... lol! Rage Against the Machine was my first concert (other than my dad in my living room every day). I saw them do Killing in the Name at a historical show in Spanish Fork, Utah. Google it. Its a great read. This performance hits in so many ways. I really love these guys. ❤❤❤
So nice to see the kids today appreciating music from the olden days.
@talonsoftheraven6693
Жыл бұрын
Thankfully they still have the spark, before i saw this i was serious doubting this generation. i can rest easy now knowing that they will carry on the fire and will pass it down to the next.
@adods9824
Жыл бұрын
Isn’t it just! 😁👍🏻🤟🏻
The lead guitarist is phenomenal
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Aw thanks cori! ❤
I’m 64 yeas old . Love everything this band does. The energy and creative talent is there in front of us. I def will try to see them . Just wow
@kenn6592
2 жыл бұрын
I am 65 and agree with you totally! What a great band. Love this Sabbath cover. I had the original on vinyl!
@zemog1303
Жыл бұрын
I'm 66 and I agree
@sivab4536
Жыл бұрын
35, all in.
@dave6148
Жыл бұрын
I'm 61- love this stuff
@dimitraBlissDk
Жыл бұрын
I will be 60 in a few months. I am home alone every week end. This song made me so happy it became my Sunday worship music and I danced around the house like a school girl.
WOW!! I Didn't want that guitar solo to end! This band is unreal!
Romain is as extraordinary guitarist, so fluid, him and Ren could rule the world!
I don’t always listen to The Big Push, but when I do... so do my neighbours. Great job, guys :)
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Haha awesome! Thanks a lot
@dyingdoesnthurt1967
5 ай бұрын
Gold
@carinmiller9211
24 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@PeterBulka-nf3rn
24 күн бұрын
Great, I think all neighbors should be hearing these super talented musicians as much as possible ❤❤🎉🎉
You're the kind of band that is so good that it makes me want to do a cover of a cover
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Do it dude xx
@norseman3514
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBigPushBand Life is a never-ending fractal bro yah gotta keep that shit jetting through the kosmos.
@alwaysinprayer900
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@carinmiller9211
24 күн бұрын
I hope you did this! Share a link! ❤❤❤
I don't know how much more awesome I can handle! I became an instant Ren fan the first time I heard 'Hi Ren' a few weeks ago. Now I find this amazing cover of my all time favorite song?! All I can do is sit here and shake my head. It's like Ren has reinvented music and I am discovering it again for the first time. THANK YOU REN and The Big Push. Damn ... just ... damn!
@hopeandjazz9535
Жыл бұрын
I understand ;)
@hollyshaw-elliemae
Жыл бұрын
this... my thoughts exactly.
@beaumontstuff
Жыл бұрын
Not me thinking I was having a unique experience😂
Best four minutes of music I've heard in years. I think these guys will save rock and roll on their own. Fantastic stuff.
It is impossible to be a pretentious musician and convincingly pull off a War Pigs cover. There is no way to do that song without putting everything into it. People will know if your muffins are half-baked. All in all this was unique, timeous and much needed. Its a Yes from me 🤺
@aliaswhatever
Жыл бұрын
When you got IT You got IT These guys have filled their buckets & got spades full to spare... Class simplz
@bobdobbs1168
Жыл бұрын
I will add, what artist have you seen mix Black Sabbath into Rage Against the Machine in a live mix, two epic songs and they make the combo into something amazing. (they did seem to miss the transition a bit more than their other mass up but still pretty amazing mix)
@Stem667
Жыл бұрын
I mean these guys are the definition of pretentiousness. They are solid musicians, but there's just too much posing for my taste...
@Anorectic.Bumblebee
Жыл бұрын
@@Stem667 somebody needs to check on their envy-kid inside :-) those guys are amazing, just incredibly connected musicians.
@Damion00000
Жыл бұрын
@@Anorectic.Bumblebee , I am in constant communication with the little envious devil that speaks beneath every breath i take. He is quite happy with this performance, i think stem is wrong , because the big push owns the soul of that crowd. I am sure that they could have easily organised a riot straight off of that stage
Ren and Gorran’s harmonising was 👌
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mia
They are just having fun,no sweat and it blows my mind.
I’ve told my 15 and 16 yo grandkids about Ren and the Big Push (who are amazing). I’m 63, I can’t wait until they get a little older and say gramma, how did you know about the best band ever years ago! You guys take me back to the 70’s and 80’s when we had real music and talent. I wish all you guys much success, happiness and a hell of a ride!
@toe2328
10 ай бұрын
🫵🪨... May you; 🪨 steady and everlong🙋♀️
Holy shit the energy coming from the crowd is overwhelming, you guys really have something special 🤟
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
@patrickfitzgerald409
2 жыл бұрын
Mobile phones special?
@chiefbigtoe7260
2 жыл бұрын
What's the girls name in Orange with the city Jean shorts? I would love to ask her to dance with me.
@kjsbadfkjlasbdg
2 жыл бұрын
@@chiefbigtoe7260 Jim I think.
@alwaysinprayer900
2 жыл бұрын
Best I've seen in a while... perfect energy
This is such a good mash up. Brilliant guitar solo and fantastic performances from the whole band
I love the nods to rage against the machine, crazy train, paranoid.... such a great vibe, would love to have been there for this 🤘❤
OK so I have heard a lot of people cover this song before but now I've heard my favorite cover of it.
The vocals,the instrumental,the chemistry and the passion is what makes me wait for your music impatiently 😂 you deserve it all guys 🤘😍
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much dude x
rock n roll. wow!
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Big love man!
that guitar solo was immaaaculate
Interleaving "War Pigs" and "Killing in the Name of" was brilliant!
@mart2carl
Жыл бұрын
mos def, would love to hear a longer version of the mashup
@Mystero78
11 ай бұрын
And Paranoid 🤘
@McLeod2022
9 ай бұрын
@@Mystero78 And Crazy Train.
The part at 2:15 gives chills with all the cheering and the whole spot light at you.. absolute madness 🙌🙌🔥
@rickardaberg2673
Жыл бұрын
Me 2, is it from any known song of "just" improvisation?
@agastyakuleyar562
Жыл бұрын
@@rickardaberg2673 it’s crazy train by Ozzy
That was incredible. Love when bends throw an artistic spin on a classic. Just amazing.
I keep being drawn back to this like a moth to a flame! The joy is infectious!
@SomelTingWong
6 ай бұрын
Ew nein Das night so gut
That was... Unexpected. I love it. 🤘💀
This is going to be one of my favorites. Such smooth transitions between the songs
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
thank youuuu
i love to see people enjoy to make music together. this is what life should be.
I hate Cover Songs but this Guys are great sorry for my fucking english i' am German and i Drink a Lot of Beer 😅
@sayandutta5226
23 күн бұрын
No how dare you fucking english
@keithw453
16 күн бұрын
Yeah I am not a huge cover fan but they (and Ren individually) seem to be really good at making the song their own while keeping what made the song good in the first place.
@svenklein3070
15 күн бұрын
Erstmal ein lecker bierchen gönnen
@jond181
3 күн бұрын
Forgiven !
@chrissnatchko7795
3 күн бұрын
My old wood shop teacher was a retired Union carpenter, and he said to me one day “Chris! Where did you get that foul mouth! You’d make a sailor and a truck driver look like an altar boy!”😂
That’s so cool, guys. You’re making rock’n’roll alive again 🤟
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers dude xx
Love the way y'all feel the music and the moment!!!! Gives me goosebumps everytime... sending love from Brazil
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
A Welshman an Englishman an Irishman and a Frenchman. Superb band!
Guys honestly stop ruining my soul. I’m completely addicted to you and your music. I’m speechless again
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
haha MORE MORE MORE!!!!!! Thank you for you support Fika xx
@jcartesv
2 жыл бұрын
@romainaxisa ... what a riff! 🙌🏻 Congratulations @thebigpushband!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@bettybridges9992
2 жыл бұрын
Me too hun and I'm 61 years old 💚😁😁😂😭👵
@akfbbcn
2 жыл бұрын
@@bettybridges9992 am i high or my middle name is your name but backwards
@markg9749
2 жыл бұрын
@@akfbbcn That's Fika your talking about mate not Betty...💯👍😂 Mark G Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪☘️☘️☘️ 😎✊
So good! Crazy train riff was on point... I hope someday I could visit England to listen to your stuff guys!
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Murilo xx
Ren solved: he's a shapeshifting alien. On the "witches..." line his face BECOMES Ozzy circa 1972. Oh look, yet another level of brilliance.
This is the kinda energy i need in my life rn
Band is great! I discovered Ren about 6/7 months ago, and man, you can do almost any genre. You have good rap/hip hop, great rock, and even reggae and almost like punk type rock. The band is also amazing. Love you guys! Especially your anti establishment songs like crucify your culture and MONEY GAME! Love you man
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! It means a lot, sending you all our love ❤
As a long time BS fan, l can say that was one of the better covers I've seen and like their enthusiasm for the music. Especially for their generation and love to see youngsters appreciate the music of my youth. I have seen other work they have done and really liked the Marley cover as well as some Stones tunes, but this is my favorite so far and rocked. The dude on base looks like he is right out the 70s and would love to see them come to the US. Does anyone know if they plan on touring outside of the UK or Europe in the future ?
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Bless you man! Thanks so much, you really lived in a great time for music that's for sure ❤ We are doing our first uk tour at the moment, covid has delayed things a bit, but hopefully we'll get over to the US at some point! Thanks so much for your kind words and support, it means a lot ❤
@independent2368
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBigPushBand Bless you to brother, l really meant what I said. Saw the never say die tour in 78 when I was a kid as well as the end in 2016, so I know talent when I see it and you guys are good together. It would be great if you could make it to the US in the future and would most definitely be there to see you. You guys should do more BS covers and maybe some Deep Purple. We are also huge fans of Bon Scott era AC DC, and was a great frontman. I can't emphasize enough how awesome it is to see the enthusiasm you guys have for real instrumental music in a dead era of DJs that have no idea how to even play an instrument and gives me hope for the future of live music, so please keep rockin brother and the rest will take care of itself if you have faith 🙏🏼
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
@@independent2368 sending you all our love and thanks, rock n roll
@-sbman333-
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBigPushBand We need you to Come to the U.S! Come to Madison, Wisconsin!!!
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
@@-sbman333- ❤❤
It's amazing how hardworking you guys are. I wish you much success. know that you keep a lot of people happy and you saved a lot of them. I will always share your performances to as many people as I can.
The guitar solo was on 🔥🔥🔥
I absolutely love these live performances!
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
So much fun to make !!!
Uncle Stef approves of this Sabbath Melody. Nice Ozzy solo insert BTW, in the lead.
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
amazing! thanks stefan, lots of love man
@RRbestever
2 жыл бұрын
Randy Rhoads riff*
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
@@RRbestever ❤❤
@RRbestever
2 жыл бұрын
@Omar Gabriel yeah😎and football
The solo was perfectly executed, well done!
It warms my heart to hear young people playing Sabbath and Rage. Great Guys.
Im so proud to listen to them and watch'em grown since the beginning, watch out world for this folks!!!
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Aw amazing! Thanks so much ❤
It’s like you guys are going down the list of my favourite bands & songs, and checking them off one at a time. Never stop guys. Never stop.
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers dude xx
Raw talent personified
HOW did i just find these guys?? and why is this the best thing i’ve ever heard???
You guys are amazing. Great arrangements, chemistry and an electric atmosphere. Also great videography by the way.
Simplesmente não consigo parar de ouvir. Incrível! Amazing!
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
@arteresposta
2 жыл бұрын
Mais um BR boquiaberto com esse abra prima kkkkk
Just found Ren which led me to the Big Push. Best day in a long time! 🔥💪💯
One of my new favourite bands playing songs of my all time favourite band!! Thank you from Spain! Loved it!! :)
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
@The Big Push I'm the biggest Brazilian fan of "Big push"! Because the band's musical energy has always positively energized my mind, even during my "terrible crisis" I identify with Ren's compositions. Songs save lives! ✨💛
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gabriel x
This is more than just music. Holy shit.
Man I really love how you and band make covers your own. But I can tell you'd have it no other way!!
Not sure what I just stumbled upon but honestly it just shredded my brain to pieces. Completely amazing!
Fellow metalhead from Goa here! Man one day I wanna come to the UK and see you guys busking out on the streets. Made my day guys. Thank you from the bottom of my heart! ❤️
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Or we'll come to Goa and play on the beach ;)
@AdventureswithGPA
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBigPushBand sounds like a great idea mate! Let's get this done very soon 👊
All the guys are great showman and musicians awesome cover
I wanna be a part of this, as a 19 year old i have never felt that any youth culture today really resonates with me. Seing young people react to Black Sabbath and Rage Against the Machine with such passion is from my experience quite rare. Love this, Please never stop!
Top shelf Street performance. The bar has been set proper high
You guys rock awesome pure sounds are out of this world
Ive been stumbling across all your music and listen to everything on repeat. So much passion in everything you do! Music lovers rejoice at finding talent such as Ren.
GUYS!!! OUR DEBUT EP 'CAN DO WILL DO' IS OUT NOW!!! 'Can Do Will Do' EP - smarturl.it/CanDoWillDo We release all our music independently and have worked so hard to release this EP! It would help us immensely if you would share it with all your friends, family, across your socials and download and stream it online. Subscribe to Channel - kzread.info/dron/LuR_dea3ed8KbIoyvHUB0w.html Instagram - instagram.com/thebigpushband/?hl=en Twitter - twitter.com/thebigpushband?lang=en Facebook - facebook.com/thebigpushband Website - www.thebigpushband.com/ Spotify - open.spotify.com/artist/4AOiNpcmfXTiWDB3uFszgn?si=f4s1tspIQmSNOTUq26pUUA Apple Music - music.apple.com/gb/artist/the-big-push/1455852170
@Shape_Z
2 жыл бұрын
Please don't stop. Oh Lord please....oh...oh don't stop! Fans all over the globe...literally we all love you. When are you coming to me in NY?!?
@7times7seas
2 жыл бұрын
It's free! Djeezs guys, just wanted to pay for it! Sir Thanks-a-lot
@stuartyd77
2 жыл бұрын
Ljh8
This is unreal!!!! Made my day! Cannot wait to see you guys in manc in a cpl weeks! Love you guys so so much! 🤘❤❤
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
We are so excited!!!! Cant wait xx
Man, the effing talent is unreal!
I love in the Paranoid verse they combine 2 voices to get that Ozzy sound. Wowser
Simple fact - the best UK band nowadays !!! Stunnin'
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support xx
We are playing at the Brighton Dome on September 9th! This is going to be the biggest show we’ve put on so far, in such a special venue, and for many reasons that we won’t go into just now, this is going to be our last show for a long time. If you've ever wanted to see us perform live this is the time to do it. Tickets on sale Friday 17th 10am. Let’s make it unforgettable. Love you all. bit.ly/3xhBBvy
@motherofpoms
Жыл бұрын
I wish it was before or after cos I can't come 😭😭😭😭
@ilovepie314
Жыл бұрын
Omg I wish I still lived in Brighton, and the UK for that matter! That venue is dope, have an absolute blast!!!
@TheMadborn
Жыл бұрын
I wish
@dawncain1712
Жыл бұрын
Great show
Like amazing, and ren your voice range is unbelievable, from reggae to rock to soul, so coooool ❤
It's great seeing the kids having fun. Nice. Life. Beautiful. I'm all for it.
Awesome cover guys! You made it your own! It would be great to watch you guys live. 🤘
Your guys live music, even Gorren busking on his own outside of upside down house, or when Ren freestyled and rapped life is funny when everyone was chilling and jamming or Ren and Romain doing acoustic really made my time in Brighton way more special tbh, thanks guys your energy & ability to get a crowd jamming is amazing! It was such a nice experience in the wake of all the covid bullshit ✌🏻😌💜
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Aw you're so welcome man, thanks so much - sending you all our love and support ❤️❤️
I get more and more impressed with them every day! Great job guys, keep it up!😎💪🏻❤️
Absolutely superb! Sabbath and Rage, what a mix!
Holy crap guys! It's been so long that I dind't see such energy in a live band. At first I was what's going on and then booom, what a wonderful mashup!! Great job and great vibe! Cheers from Brazil!
What a live performance- as always !!!!!!!😮
These guys are gonna be remembered.
Incredible energy...
Ren + black sabbath.... I'm in heaven 😍🤤
You guys just get better and better, such a great sound and tight band.
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jeremy xxx
This talent is inconceivable. I hope you all realize this is generational talent! 🔥
By far the very best cover i personally ever heard. 🤟
OMG THAT GUITAR SOLO FUUUUARKKKKKK BRO ITS ISNANE
Wow such a well rounded band. Every musician adds something special and irreplaceable to the songs !!!
I can't find a single band or person that has ever covered this song so well, honestly amazingly well done.
@marcfielding2460
9 ай бұрын
I mean no disrespect to anyone else in this but the guy in the hat is SO fucking good it's insane. I hear people talk about the drummer and everyone else but holy shit, that guy can play guitar
@sampyedrums
8 ай бұрын
It was alright I guess, but it wasn't a cover of war pigs. It was the beginning of war pigs then some simpler songs. If you want a proper war pigs cover go here. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dGiWlNSnisaYfdI.html
The songs you choose to cover says A LOT ❤ Never back down people.
Impresionante !!!! grandes profesionales
I should be thanking you lads, for the incredible talent you boys put possess, I'm in the music business, and i know class when I see it, incredible!! Nuff said !!!
@TheBigPushBand
2 жыл бұрын
Aw mate, thanks so much ❤
Holy. Crap. I’m ashamed to say I (oldies loving 37F) have never heard of Ren until tonight during a KZread deep dive rabbit hole and I’ve now listened to like 8 songs all amazing in their own way but this one really shows his range and voice and I think I’m in love
I used to sing in a 'Sabbath' tribute band and damn,they are unbelievably cool.. Love it
Absolutely brilliant. These guys look like they really enjoy what they do.
I’m a bit late but these performances sound quality never cease to amaze me. How do you capture the audio so well but still get that ambiance and crowd that make it feel like your there?
@KarlMySuitcase
2 жыл бұрын
Modern technology probably.
@PraveenSawh
2 жыл бұрын
@@KarlMySuitcase 😂
@thomasoxley5785
2 жыл бұрын
My guess would be a mixture of recording into a laptop and the camera’s mic.
@bandofmountains
2 жыл бұрын
The music is recorded from a soundboard direct and not a microphone. Then the mix in a live mic recording to give the crowd/street a sound.
@isaacparsons5929
2 жыл бұрын
Zoom h4n recorder :)
I knew the big push thanks to Ren, I think this group deserves fame as well. Great musicians