Boys you have stepped your game up so much

Gentlemen, excellent piece of work! I can confirm the findings regarding the RWS evo Green and changed to the Barnes TTSX. Surprised that the lighter bullet worked better.

First time seeing your content. Nicely done. I'm exceptionally fond of a few solid Cu rounds you didn't try, but the TTSX is the only one here that I'm familiar with. A truly nasty thing delivered accurately. Liked and subscribed. Smiled the whole way through at Gingers (I am as well) reviewing ballistic terminal performance.

@TheDeercast

Ай бұрын

Thank you for the positive feedback!

My gut feeling tells me that Fox ammo provides the most value for the money spent 😊

Hi guy interesting report using 120 grain Hornaday in 6.5 Creedmoor good results on Fallow so far.

Interesting video guys. So many variables but it is generally good news that we have a number of lethal options available. I am sure that you have seen the NatureScot Reasearch Report 1312 report on minimum bullet weight - some interesting results - worth a look if you haven't seen it.

Great vid lads. It would be interesting to know the different muzzle velocities (if significantly different), also would like to hear your honest thoughts on what’s the most effective on game and how it compares to lead.

@TheDeercast

Жыл бұрын

We’ll be doing a follow up video in due course on our experiences on game!

@TheDeercast

6 ай бұрын

@@84sd6ricztgvubojnomp it varies.

Great video but one fundamental bit of info that seems to be missing would be- what range was the target ?

@TheDeercast

10 ай бұрын

Target was 100m.

Great video I can’t find any lead free bullets that my blaser r8 in 6.5 creedmoor tried all cannot hold 1 moa

@TheDeercast

Жыл бұрын

Not sure what to suggest! Have you tried reloading?

@edwardsheridan9962

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDeercast yes a friend did try but it was the same I even email blaser they did not reply which for a hi end rifle manufacturer is pretty poor I would look to get rid of blaser but Devon and Cornwall police are not fit for purpose at the moment as I have been waiting 10 months for a renewal on my shotgun certificate

@MrJAvB

5 ай бұрын

Which brands did you try?

@simondodsworth27

4 ай бұрын

Just a thought. Have you cleaned the barrel back to bare metal? Copper bullets don't seem to group well if the barrel has any fouling from lead bullets

Out of interest, what lead-free are you using in .243 and 25-06? After a trial box, I have just taken the plunge and bought a few boxes of Winchester Copper Impact in .243.

@TheDeercast

Жыл бұрын

We haven’t tried lead free in 243 yet…. That’s our next adventure!

@janekeithedmunds2637

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDeercast If I were a home-loader I'd certainly try 80.5 Yewtree Standard Hunter but - I am not - so let's see how the Copper Impact work out.

@TheDeercast

Жыл бұрын

@@janekeithedmunds2637 keep us posted!

@Guide504

Жыл бұрын

Do they meet the 1700ftlbs requirements for deer?

@janekeithedmunds2637

Жыл бұрын

@@Guide504 Yes, apparently 1884 ftlbs. Based on the NatureScot test the Sako Powerhead 2 was the only test bullet that failed on ftlbs coming out at 1482.

Does this make 243win illegal for deer due to not reaching the legal power requirements.

@TheDeercast

11 ай бұрын

Not necessarily. A few people are making 100gr lead free 243 ammunition. We hope to be able to review some soon.

@Guide504

11 ай бұрын

@@TheDeercast great, look forward to it. My dad is considering rebarrel to 6.5 creedmore from his 243win because of the ridiculous rifle regs.

Thanks for thanking the time & effort to do this enlightening test. As impact velocity is a big factor in how (most) monolithic bullets perform can you give an indication of the MV for the Fox bullets please (I can get a reasonable 100 yard impact figure from that). You mentioned you’d loaded them to ‘factory spec’ but the Fox load data available online give loads but not velocities.

@TheDeercast

Жыл бұрын

In a 20” barrel we found the 150gr had a muzzle velocity of 850m/s and the 130gr had a muzzle velocity of 922m/s.

@rsf5898

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDeercast - Thanks

I’ll tell you what Barnes excels at…looking pretty after they’ve expanded and forcing hunters to track their game.

@TheDeercast

5 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear you feel that way! Harry uses the 110gr variants in his 308 and has no complaints!

@hikenmikes8262

4 ай бұрын

@@TheDeercastI’m happy you get good, consistent results from Barnes. It just seems like I’m always tracking in the heavy cover in which I hunt

When you talk about the Nielsen Sonic bullets, and partly also the tin RWS bullet - you consistently say "expand" and talk about expansion - which leaves me wondering why you don't mention that they are designed to fragment - not expand. I think that's a somewhat important distinction in lead free bullet design - that there are two camps, one expanding the other fragmenting, and you need to choose between them, and also evaluate them based on that.

@TheDeercast

10 ай бұрын

Both the RWS and Nielsen Sonic bullets are designed to both expand and fragment - for example, on their website RWS describe their bullet as a “lead free expanding bullet” that “partially fragments”. You can therefore use either terminology as both are correct. Ultimately all bullets are designed to enlarge and create a large wound channel, but some achieve this in different ways.

@larshcdk

10 ай бұрын

I don’t know for sure what RWS marketing says about their tin bullet - but Nielsen sonic is for sure not designed to expand, only fragment. So evaluating it as a expanding bullet by measuring expansion on the shank that is left when the fragments fall off goes against the intended design of ensuring a exit wound. But great test - look forward to hearing more about your results on game! :)