That last comment about him not seeing his own daughter tells you all you need to know about Scientology

@len3169

Жыл бұрын

You just randomly believe something because you seen a short clip on YT?

@susankeith326

Жыл бұрын

​@@len3169You must live in a bubble. Lol

@majipoorcat

Жыл бұрын

Tells you all you need to know about Tom. Scientology is awful, but Suri is not declared a suppressive person. He could’ve had a relationship with her all along if he chose that.

@Nopety-Nope

Жыл бұрын

​@@len3169There are loads of proof and documentaries to show how awful Scientology is. But also how ridiculous it is. The least talked about part is the inspiration behind Hubbard's "religion." It's dark and weird.

@evelyn7881

Жыл бұрын

Yup, sure does. Suri is his flesh and blood. His only Biological child. SMH

Katie and her lawyer dad are top notch.

@calibos3329

Жыл бұрын

If she was so, "top notch", how did she find herself in this situation to begin with?

@merinahansen6301

Жыл бұрын

​@@calibos3329so she can't be "top notch" and make mistakes like literally all people?

@bivos3071

Жыл бұрын

@@calibos3329love deceives everyone. It deceived you too, probably.

@jessicadrew5531

Жыл бұрын

​@@calibos3329God, that was a stupid thing to say. Lol

@Iceyfire12

Жыл бұрын

@@calibos3329 she carefully planned her getaway meticulously! It’s like telling a Kidnapped person who successfully escaped why did you get in that situation lol.

Katie Holmes dad is the mvp. He saved his daughter and granddaughter’s life.

@whistlingdixie6607

10 ай бұрын

Yup it was her lawyer dad who beat them at their own game he is an amazing dad and grandpa ❤

@saberevergarden771

2 ай бұрын

Real truth, he left them for aniston. How I know fellow scientologist.

It was a freaking miracle that she pulled that divorce off and kept her daughter safe.

Any "religion" that forbids a father or mother from seeing their young child for any reason like this should send up a gigantic red flag.

@mrgreene3290

11 ай бұрын

Religions that have secrets and are not transparent should be considered a possible cult.

@wldncrzy1971

11 ай бұрын

It’s a cult…but it does not forbid parents from seeing MINOR children.

@r.k.m9801

11 ай бұрын

Life is prolalar but charector is singular mind it's first old religion said that who is Albert Einstein family please tell me and who right brother family and also American first president GW family lol

@angiew2324

11 ай бұрын

@@wldncrzy1971 I know I said "young" child, but your child is always your child, even when they're grown.

@wldncrzy1971

11 ай бұрын

@@angiew2324 basically you’re talking about ripping families apart if one member opts out of practicing…then yes, it’s a cult. But I’m not sure when, I’m Scientology, you are informed of SP and Fair Game policies…so it’s possible to be roped in pretty deep before one is told of the separation policies. Sorry for not comprehending what you were trying to convey. 😉

Best thing Katie ever did for her daughter!

@niccolom4556

Жыл бұрын

Nah. She knew Tom was a Scientologist when they met. She wanted his offspring and was prepared to cut him out from the start. If she was actually proper, she wouldve chosen a better man who would be a father to her child. She's a sperm user like the Kardashians.

@breecoward2289

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@RustyRules426

Жыл бұрын

Best thing she ever did for Tom!

@comenowletusreason6330

Жыл бұрын

​@@RustyRules426Okay Mr scientology. Lol

@Puppies-z9h

Жыл бұрын

And the best thing that Katie's father did for her.

If the "disconnection policy" really keeps parents from parenting a child, this is just VERY VERY wrong - it is child abuse.

@TinyTC

Жыл бұрын

Nah. Katie's choice, not Scientology's.

@rocky3993

Жыл бұрын

@@TinyTC So why did not Cruise fight for better custody or visitation rights?

@anastasia612

11 ай бұрын

Cults often abuse children. They abuse adults too.

@wldncrzy1971

11 ай бұрын

Scientology does not declare minors. Even tho Suri was not a Scientologist, he did have the freedom to be in her life and be her parent without being declared himself. The fact that he didn’t see her is on Tom. This is the one instance that CoS cult managed to cover their rear ends. I’m not defending that creepy organization, but in this instance, Tom is solely to blame.

@rocky3993

11 ай бұрын

@@wldncrzy1971 Maybe Scientology is not blameless if its teachings in general influenced Tom's choice. I don't know their teachings well enough to say so, I am just saying.

It just proves how evil Scientology is. He hasn't seen his Daughter since she was seven. Unbelievable!!

@Fonoyb

10 ай бұрын

Tom is also Evil

@r.k.m9801

2 ай бұрын

What did KH for ishabela that's not very well as a step mother but it western countries LoL

@yasminsarwar9629

8 күн бұрын

Zionists

Would never support a person that puts their religion before their child.

@kathrynoneill5862

Жыл бұрын

Its not even a religion its a cult. That's makes it much worse and stupid.

@ai1een876

Жыл бұрын

Any religion that would have you deny your child is basically EVIL

@susanalexander6721

Жыл бұрын

You mean their cult?

@notsolitup5924

Жыл бұрын

@@susanalexander6721 cult is the most appropriate term...

@susanalexander6721

Жыл бұрын

@notsolitup5924 I used the word cult in association with Scientology. I have respect for others beliefs, and consider myself a spirital person. I call on Christ when I pray. What I have read about Scientology, heard in interviews from those who escaped it (their words) is controlling and manipulative. Scary. I doubt Tom would be their golden boy of he wasn't super wealthy and a very public figure.

Nothing prohibits Tom from seeing his child but Tom. So, so, sad.

@lotusbloom7750

Жыл бұрын

The church of Scientology does

@susanalexander6721

Жыл бұрын

@lotusbloom7750 of course it does. They are in danger of losing a member if that member is influenced by Family and Friends who aren't. That said, Tom is a grown man. He can make decisions for himself. He certainly has the power.

@cheryletaimalie6012

Жыл бұрын

​@@lotusbloom7750he could see her he's there highest paying member and gives half his earnings to the church If they wanted to keep the money coming in they'd let him the church is money hungry

@CarmelAV

Жыл бұрын

He comes with so much. 😢. No childhood needs that. Better off. She has a chance of some assemblance of a normal life now. Good mum.

@reesewitherfork6142

Жыл бұрын

@@lotusbloom7750they have that rule and yet he still has a choice of whether he follows it, right?

She did the RIGHT thing in saving Suri from that horrific cult. Smart Mama right there.

@jojourias6766

8 ай бұрын

You realize every other religion too including scientology is cult right? Your blind ift you think this is all true .really think. Unless your a delusional feminist LOL 😂 COPE

@r.k.m9801

8 ай бұрын

I know what happened your culture past 2000 I asked for that's time social media available or not I am asian old religion and culture belongs to me not u

I can’t imagine having to plan an escape for you and your child from your spouse. Let alone your spouse AND a huge, scary, menacing group that controls and monitors your every move. I hope Tom knew he was outsmarted by this woman he devalued and mentally abused. I wish I could have seen the look on his and all those other wackjobs faces when they knew she outwitted all of them and got her and her kid the hell out of their grasp. She is a fantastic mother for doing that for her daughter. She saved her daughter an entire life in the grasp of a terrifying cult. ♥️

@jojourias6766

8 ай бұрын

Well none of this is true. Do you believe everything the media tells you like a good little lamb you are ? 😂

@r.k.m9801

8 ай бұрын

First time I am asian old religion belongs to me please tell me what happened 2000y that's time not available social media please your knowledge please don't compare your knowledge please tell me what happened 2000

Not seen his daughter because his 'church' said so? Quite weak

@barbaradyson6951

Жыл бұрын

Try JWs and the Amish and how they treat their families if the want to leave. It's disgusting.

@maddog8621

Жыл бұрын

@@barbaradyson6951 I will do! Thank you for the signposting. It's tragic to see how these cults destroy family relationships

@cheongalyssa5724

Жыл бұрын

But the church was really dangerous since many politicians and celebrities were one of them. That’s why her mother was planning so carefully from any danger that might exist.

@NafGGMU

Жыл бұрын

@@barbaradyson6951every religion does that…just depends how crazy the leaders r and how weak followers they have. No matter how spiritual religious I am, I’d never let religion come between my kid n me, period.

@andyparky2716

Жыл бұрын

Ive always liked tom even with his weird quirks but yeah thats awful

That must've been so frightening for Katie. It took alot of guts. Never underestimate a mother bear.

@gravechallice1782

Жыл бұрын

That’s the thing, I can’t imagine being in her shoes. Not just an abusive husband (as in controlling obvi not physical) and then his whole religion also turning on you. She’s strong

@PKC2020

Жыл бұрын

Amen my friend. 🙏

@Gramcracker72

Жыл бұрын

❤of your chid first, there is No Fear. You will do what must ! Beautiful Mother and daughter! ❤️❤️

@SA-ey6nt

Жыл бұрын

​@@gravechallice1782Not a religion, but an actual cult of people who have connections power and money. She literally had to use disposable phones and laptops because she was obviously under aome level of surveillance

@tiffanyroberts6460

11 ай бұрын

Woman abducts child from father which is a crime but yeah you tell your bullshit

Imagine having to plan an escape from such a powerful man. This must have been such a scary and anxious experience. Especially as it could have ended in her demise.

@TinyTC

Жыл бұрын

There's no evidence that Scientology, in spite of being horrible, has ever had anyone killed.

@reginabennett8496

11 ай бұрын

😢

@amorepsyche808

11 ай бұрын

Sure than she took 10 milions $ from him, very scary

@tamitami9275

8 ай бұрын

Not when daddy is one of the best lawyer where she came from!

Nothing could keep me from seeing my child. This says a lot about Tom Cruise.

@r.k.m9801

8 ай бұрын

Same thing old religion for you please don't compare your culture past western countries I am asian

Her dad is a divorce lawyer it was in the prenup that She had any kids they had would not be in the Church of scientology he violated the prenup.

@shirleybleazard8049

Жыл бұрын

Good to know!

@lindalund9621

Жыл бұрын

Yes I Remember from before the marriage that They said katies father made a perfect prenup

@freedomcat

Жыл бұрын

@@lindalund9621 exactly he saw this coming.

@southernlady8809

Жыл бұрын

I remember that. The church was going to take Suri & keep her to indoctrinate her into Scientology like they did with his and Nicole Kidman's 2 adopted kids. The church literally turned them against her. 👎😢 Tom was busy at shoots & gone a lot & sure she called her parents when she found out the church was planning to take Suri for "training" ... 😮👎

@dottypitchell208

Жыл бұрын

That if Katie had any kids, not Suri. Suri is the child.

Her lawyer is her dad! 😊 Tom was about to basically give Suri to the Scientology members to raise. Katie would have no influence & Suri would be brainwashed! She didn't want that so she moved to NYC, which wasn't that hard since Tom hadn't seen Suri in a long time. Her father was brilliant! Katy did the right thing. Nicole wasn't allowed to see their 2 adopted kids alone & they were totally brainwashed. 😟👎

@r.k.m9801

11 ай бұрын

Please don't mind life it's prorular but charector is singular number one person is it's herself not anyone not parents not siblings are u educated yourself first who u r please not nagetive I am old religion hindusium

Katie's dad was a lawyer. Thats all she needed! God bless Katie and Suri getting away from that cult! 🙏

@r.k.m9801

8 ай бұрын

Lol you culture and religion good what happened Asia 2000y and now please don't compare your knowledge please don't compare your religion and culture others than old religion and culture asian ww3

Also, i love yhat her father was instrumental in helping her file for divorce and escape that insanity

My guess is that Katie shared a safe word /item with her dad before she married Tom . The minute that was used, they macgyvered and James bonded tf out of that cult.

@dmg8999

11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂mcguyvered and James bonded out...👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

@ktmualem

11 ай бұрын

Best comment ever lol

@mothertrucker936

11 ай бұрын

@@ktmualem ty

@annward7794

11 ай бұрын

Maybe…but either way they nailed his ass. I was so happy for her.

Katie was so smart to recognize the need for secrecy. If she had not understood the stakes, and gone about it any other way, this would have been a story about the estrangement between her and her daughter.

@kulotjoy

Жыл бұрын

Yes, like Nicole with her 2 kids from Tom.

@k8marlowe

Жыл бұрын

@@kulotjoy exactly

@Ash.Crow.Goddess

Жыл бұрын

Yes. She learned from what happened to Nicole.

@DaphneMarina88

11 ай бұрын

like they did to Nicole Kidman

@robinaddis-vaughn7271

11 ай бұрын

Has it ever been confirmed that Nicole assisted Katie with providing information about how to get out. And, has the Scientology dating app (😂😂) find Tom a new girlfriend yet?

She's a great mom. I don't usually believe in separating kids from one of their parents. Unless it's a must. And in this situation. I very much think it's a must.

everyone runs 🏃‍♂️ everyone Runs 🏃‍♂️ away from him. 😂😂😂

I have thought Tom was creepy since his Risky Business days. I never understood the whole sex appeal he supposedly had. I always thought it was creepy and arrogant; two terrible attributes in a man.

@kodakflaps8267

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget short. That combination of those 3 attributes are a sign for any person to run!! I definitely see him having a napoleon complex.

@comenowletusreason6330

Жыл бұрын

Same here. I never understood the appeal.

@Ash.Crow.Goddess

Жыл бұрын

So true! I've always disliked him greatly.

@BetterMe981

Жыл бұрын

@@kodakflaps8267 Meh... a man's height never bothered me. Of course, if he had a Napoleon complex that would be the problem, lol.

@GOGOSLIFE

Жыл бұрын

I never thought he was attractive either, then, his relationship with the 'church' is just another layer of creep. The farther you stay away, the better!

It was her wonderful, brilliant father who helped his daughter and granddaughter...just Amazing and loving. One of the best Dad's in the world💗

@jenniferwilliams5478

Жыл бұрын

All 3 of his marriages ended when they turned 33

@bobbyanderson1054

Жыл бұрын

​@@jenniferwilliams5478I learned something new

@joiisler8986

Жыл бұрын

@@jenniferwilliams5478 Is that True? Is there some significance to the number 33 in Scientology; or is it just a coincidence? (Either way: Cringy.)

@jenniferwilliams5478

Жыл бұрын

@joiisler8986 nope just weird. All marriages were under 10 years because after that the women probably would of gotten half.

@joiisler8986

Жыл бұрын

@@jenniferwilliams5478 Oh yeah. I forgot about those “prenups.”

I love that she is a good mom and chose to protect her child.

He's gonna have alot of regrets when he gets older. What a shame, I hope Suri understands one day that it had nothing to do with her but with the cult her father was a part of.

@logochi5036

Жыл бұрын

Narcissists do not experience regret

@shannonpendergrass7206

Жыл бұрын

He sold his soul, he does not care. He has everything he sold his soul for in this lifetime. So until his death and he has to pay Back the debt he sold his soul for...he will not care.

@wldncrzy1971

11 ай бұрын

He will regret nothing. Narcissists only blame others for things that happen to them.

Keep your friends close. But keep your enemies closer. And that's how she did it. She played him. He never saw it coming. A mother will do the impossible to protect her children.

@Songs-ls2pr

Жыл бұрын

I did the same ❤❤❤for my four kiddos and for my sanity. I felt like such a deceiving woman so unlike my true self. But I knew my life depended on silencio and playing the role in order to make a clean break. Thank God I did ❤❤❤

@sarasahlberg1861

Жыл бұрын

​@@Songs-ls2prGood for you! 🙌🫶👏

@bonnylouwho76

11 ай бұрын

He almost ruined her though, remember that. It is NEVER safe to play on the edge or to be that close to the fire. Just say no. Some people can seem so good and holy, when they are like the underbelly of the dark when you are married to them.

@annward7794

11 ай бұрын

@@Songs-ls2prgood for you. That’s such a tightrope situation, it takes real inner strength to execute that plan. I’m so happy you got out. I wish you and yr children nothing but peace and happiness. 🩵💐

Best thing that could have happened to Suri. Nicole Kidman lost her relationship with her two adopted children because of the brainwashing of the church and Tom.

Smart woman with a very supportive family.

Katie is a very smart woman. Respect ❤

@kathleenirish

Жыл бұрын

Yet she married Tom cruise

@KittyD859

Жыл бұрын

Calm your tits. This was all her father. She married Tom Cruise, she’s not that bright

@BenDover-vs7ih

Жыл бұрын

Yeah smart sure but dumb enough to marry Tom. 🤷

@rubencastro2247

11 ай бұрын

​@@kathleenirishright.. lmao

I was about to use the phrase "Deadbeat Dad", however, I wasn't certain if the term applied to fathers who didn't support their children monetarily only. Could the term be used for fathers who don't support their children emotionally and psychologically? I noticed how not much is said about his abandonment of his child.

Katie did the right thing! Tom is a very powerful and scary man in real life. He’s in a cult and Katie did what any mother would do protecting her child.

Katie did what she thought was the best thing for Suri and with the help of her Lawyer Dad she was successful. I hope that Suri will continue to thrive in her future.

she saw the hardship nicole kidman’s children were put through, she was smart enough to have a plan from the time she found out she was pregnant. this woman came prepared.

@tinasapienza6552

11 ай бұрын

Hmmm… then why’d she marry him? You remember she had Suri before they got married.

@Bronte866

11 ай бұрын

Prepared? Preparation might’ve come in handy before you legally contract yourself to a man in the most dangerous cult in the world. Becoming pregnant in this situation called for some preparation as well. This cult was not a secret at that time nor his role in it.

@shubhimishra-xm5it

Ай бұрын

All women should worship this lady and her brains..

That’s a real Mother Love for her Child, Mother knows best❤

When he started jumping on Oprah's couch in the middle of a show and disparaging the people with depression I knew this guy was a whack job.

@RNMom424

11 ай бұрын

That's the day I lost any respect I had for him! If it were me, I'd've broken the engagement right then & there!

It’s definitely in Suri’s best interest her dad stays away. He would have jammed his ridiculous and sadistic religious beliefs down her throat. Katie Holmes is truly a class act and wonderful mother

I hope Katy explains to Suri that her father is one of the leaders of a cult and Suri did nothing wrong, he just can't think for himself anymore. Very sad for her.

@prashantgurung2635

Жыл бұрын

Suri Will Comeback to Her Father Once She Will be 18 Her Father is Literally The Biggest Movie Star in The World. Sure Tom Was Crazy Before But Now he is Good And Has Such a Good Repuation in The World on Other Hand Katie Holmes Was a Whore to Jamie Fox For 5 Years

@allyb7817

Жыл бұрын

I think Suri will be able to read all about her father and his priorities for herself. I am pretty sure she knows enough about scientology to understand why her mother did what she did.

@ArtGirl82

11 ай бұрын

@@allyb7817 I wish all those people who fawned over Tom for the new Top Gun movie would wise up too. The guy is the beneficiary of trafficked slave labour practices, he turned his older kids against Nicole Kidman and forced his under-aged niece out of her family home for dating without his permission, but because he's managed to convince people that "running good" and playing the same character in every movie is an irreplaceable skill set, he's somehow never gets any blow back from his actions.

@1Outis1

11 ай бұрын

He's not a leader of anything, he can't think for himself because he's just another one of the sheep.

If that 'church' says, "no contact with ex-members," then they have overstepped a moral vision for a man being a good father. For Tom, or any other person, this is another clue, you are in the wrong 'church.'

@TinyTC

Жыл бұрын

Scientology does not recognize the bonds between families, nor the difference between children and adults.

I’m so glad she did this. They must of had conversations about what he wanted to do with S. Scientology had very strict rules. She never became a member which was a problem. Tom took the other 2 kids from Nicole when they divorced. She didn’t desert those kids she was forbidden from seeing them. If people watch the series on Scientology then they would know how bad this organization is. This is not a religion. They have destroyed so many lives. Tom is right up with the man who runs the show.

Their daughter is so cute. Too bad he doesn' t see his daughter. She should come first. You can' t go back

@shannonpendergrass7206

Жыл бұрын

It's better for the girl, that he doesn't. She doesn't need that kind of wicked influence on her life.

Isn't Katie's father a divorce lawyer?

Way to go Katie to protect yourself and your child! Your awesome!

Scientology sounds terrifying! How stressful do you have to go through all of that just to get a divorce!

So glad she and her doughter got out ❤

@aliceedwards6845

Жыл бұрын

She was smart!

@r.k.m9801

Жыл бұрын

Got out what that's religion good for world not your 2000y mind it's I am old religion belongs

That relationship really derailed her career. He is such a lousy man

Scientology is absurd. I got a job for a supplement company in Utah running their marketing department and I was excited to work there... until they required 'education courses' for onboarding written by L. Ron Hubbard: creator of scientology himself. I thought, how bad can it be to do 30 days of this class and then get onto this job I was hired for. Lol. yeah, I've never been in a worse class in school or college. It was psychological torchure. I was required to memorize 'facts' about communication and psychology that were blatantly untrue and unsubstantiated. Memorizing strange alternative terms to use in place of a wide variety of common words so it's basically a second language. There were these "drills" where you communicate an idea only using clay (which was policed and graded very seriously) and the worst one where you had to sit with your eyes closed in a chair without falling asleep until the teacher who sat across from you the whole time dismissed you. Falling asleep meant starting the 20-40 min drill all over from the start time again. Well... I have adhd. It helps me be a top-notch marketing professional, one of the very best in my city. But I literally can't sit without stimulation for my brain and not fall asleep. Old Mr. Hubbard doesn't believe in adhd so the teacher and multiple managers refused to make an exception for my disability (breaking several laws against discrimination by requiring this coursework without accommodation). I quit. I realized it was going to be impossible to work with these people who insisted on following cult-leader policies and required continued education that was literally painful for my brain. I could have sued them but didn't bother. Nobody takes adhd seriously as a disability. Shrug*

I didn’t at first but I do love her now - so brave!!!

Tom's lose. Suri is a beautiful child❤

@movingonandup322

Жыл бұрын

But it's Suri's loss really. Being abandoned by a parent destroys people for life sometimes. It's painful and traumatic no matter what. :(

@sinnombrenemo4169

Жыл бұрын

​@@movingonandup322tom's a bitch! supposedly his adoptive children wont even speak to his ex wife nicole kidman, because of that gross religion

Has Katie written a book yet? I would love to read it!

@jbtpa895

Жыл бұрын

After Suri is 18 I think.

@eli4delmar

Жыл бұрын

I think it is in the divorce agreement, Katie is never allowed to write a book about the so-called Church.

@myswanktrendz

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if her and Nicole got together for a joint expose? That would be so fabulous

@Theintrovertednow

Жыл бұрын

​@@myswanktrendzid wipe out my life savings to read it lol i bet between both of them they have so many stories

@elainastricklerconsiglio267

Жыл бұрын

This entire story should be made into a movie.

She did the right thing. Saving her child from indoctrination.

I heard of Scientology in the early 1970s.. I never thought much about the organization. It is NOT a church and should not get ta breaks.

She's a loving caring protective mother she only did what was right for her daughter her daughter's freedom her daughter's Independence her daughter's life that's a real mother I had a mother like that

I'm so glad that Katie was brave enough to do what was needed to accomplish her and Suri's escape from Tom and his evil church! And shame on Tom for letting a church dictate what he can and can't do with his child! He's just pathetic!

That's a tough smart Toledo gal right there. You go girl.❤

@ms.construed1305

11 ай бұрын

She knew about the cult before getting married? And what happened to his other wife? And kids?

Understandable that Katie left with the child. Tom missed out on seeing his child bc he wanted too. Get out Tom while you can.

No religion would ever suggest abandoning your family. Only a cult would.

Religions that tries to separate or does not honour or respect family togetherness even if they hold different positively good values , please do think again Just my opinion.

@debbiescott6732

Жыл бұрын

Those are called "Cults".

@Nopety-Nope

Жыл бұрын

They only went religion specifically for the tax breaks. They used to not be considered a religion for some time. They took it to court or something, and now they are a "religion." But agreed, they are called "cults."

@TinyTC

Жыл бұрын

This is not a religion in any sense of the word.

@debbiescott6732

Жыл бұрын

@@TinyTC that is correct. Scientology is a cult.

@rokaram8619

11 ай бұрын

That a cult not a religion

She did not ambush ànyone, she and her family planned a way to escape from a controlling mate and dysfunctional relationship.

Her father planned this before she was stupid enough to marry him. We all need a father like him.

Her dad deserves Father of the Year

Brilliantly done, Katie!!!!

Cult not church

The reason she beat the Scientologists is because shes a controlling expert ...

Thanks for saving your daughter from a cult.

What is wrong with these religions. When you step outside there circle you are immediately shunned . Who could to that to their child

@susanalexander6721

Жыл бұрын

It's a cult.

@prashantgurung2635

Жыл бұрын

​@@susanalexander6721Its a Religion in USA its a Religion like islam christianity

@kyleemeg2171

Жыл бұрын

@@prashantgurung2635 ew don’t compare Scientology to Islam. Islam has historical and cultural background. Scientology was started by a bunch of sicko wack jobs. Just because it’s recognized as a religion, does not mean it’s not a cult. Catholicism is considered a religion, but they’ve been acting like a cult since the beginning of time

@sandralybrand9425

Жыл бұрын

They aren't religions they are Cults!

@ArtGirl82

11 ай бұрын

They know that if they don't they'll loose every friend they've ever made, probably most of their family and all financial supports who are connected to the church. If they complain about any of the policies, a family member or friend will probably write a knowledge report on them and they'll get grilled by the ethics department, on their own dime (which is what happened to Leah Remini). Also, the COS is sinister in how it makes it's members self-brainwash. It's hammered into them from early on that any good thing that happens to them is because of Scientology, and if they leave, their whole life will fall apart; they'll end up living on the street addicted to drugs.

He's a grown man who believes xenu is coming to get them. He is not stable and not being in her life is a good thing. I'm still baffled at that fact. When they got him to the level where they revealed the news that xenu would arrive to take them away, he didn't break up laughing? Question it all? No, he chose xenu over his child. 😮 proving he's not too swift after all.

@xejelah

Жыл бұрын

Is that angle of the story make it any different than the Christian version of another Jesus coming to save them?

@prettybrowneyez3338

11 ай бұрын

​@@xejelah Touché...

She didn't ambushed Him. She escaped a cult with her daughter.

What gets me about Katie Holmes: she knew what Tom's religion was when she married him. What did she expect? That she could change him?

@kyleemeg2171

Жыл бұрын

Cult. Scientology is a cult.

@jesssobad6241

Жыл бұрын

She probably bought into the fantasy until it was so late

@loriparks8657

11 ай бұрын

Of course she knew what Tom told her what he wanted her to know . most likely she witness a little part of it, but it wasn't until she married him and she really found out how deep it was .

@itsajahthing

11 ай бұрын

@@loriparks8657 She knew how deep it was. From what I have read there was a prenup which her dear ol' lawyer dad drew up. And from talk shows I have viewed, people who have worked with Tom have said he is always ready to talk about his belief and give advice in certain areas of one's life. I see Tom as an open book; what you see is he who is; not arrogant, not better than thou, just ready to share whatever he thinks will help. That's how I see him, be I wrong or not.

@goldrush18x

11 ай бұрын

She was 26. He was 42. Enough said.

Scientology is when fans of science fiction formed a cult.

Good for Katie

He helped create that child, and he’s a scumbag if he has no connection with her because what father denies his daughter a connection with her father

@kyleemeg2171

Жыл бұрын

…. A lot of fathers do that

@elliemcdowell7423

Жыл бұрын

The president of America son Hunter Biden has done it.

@tinasapienza6552

11 ай бұрын

In this case, his cult.

Any father that can walk away from his daughter is weak as hell

Katie Holmes looks like a really good mom

He finally has a biological child and disowns her… sad

@jennyterrell6354

Жыл бұрын

Why would you say it like that? It implies biological children are more important than adopted. It’s totally possible to love your adopted children as much and exactly the same as your biological children

@joiisler8986

Жыл бұрын

@@jennyterrell6354 I don’t think it was meant that way. He has always wanted to biologically reproduce. I don’t think he has anything against adoption. Or he wouldn’t have done it Twice. (It May even have been to dispel those “gay” rumors.) I think that he is so Indoctrinated, he would reject either, or both, of his adopted children, too. Just saying.

@RicHairPIE

Жыл бұрын

​@@jennyterrell6354there is a big difference creating a child and assuming the responsibility of someone else's child.

@evastern231

Жыл бұрын

​@@RicHairPIEas we see here, biology isn't that important. His adoptive children are really his beloved kids, his biological daughter is just someone who lives another live somewhere else, nothing more.

@RicHairPIE

Жыл бұрын

@@evastern231 yeah for some people it isn't. I think a lot of people can't help but feel a different way towards their biological children. I don't know if I could ever love an adopted child the way I do my child. I would never try to make that obvious, though. Good way to fuck them up.

She was smart and it didn't hurt that her Father is a lawyer she broke up with him in a very smart way

I usted to live a few blocks behind that Scientology building in LA. Creepy AF!

Haven’t watched tom cruise since he chided Matt Lauer about how much he knew about psychology. He utterly embarrassed himself that day.

@TinyTC

Жыл бұрын

Not the first time he did that, not the last.

Katie is a lucky girl with whom her father made sure she always had a way out. He knew what Tom was all about but let his daughter carry on with her desire to be with Tom, even knowing it wouldn't last:)

@Bronte866

11 ай бұрын

The only sensible comment in this entire thread.

I won't watch Tom Cruise anymore

@bonnylouwho76

Жыл бұрын

No kidding. he made me so sick with "eyes wide shut," and the way his wife was made to cheapen herself to try to keep and please him. I don't say her name because I never want to see her name linked with his.

@samsargent1690

Жыл бұрын

It’s an eye opener for people who do not know how fake people work example you to show people that you think they are so nice to reality they are poison behind closed doors they are plenty of them out there but in time it shows it’s true colours

Who puts a church over their child. That is terrible!

That's terrifying. I can't imagine how hard and scary it would be trying to get out of a marriage with one of the most wealthy, connected, famous ppl backed by a massive, extremely wealthy, extremely controlling organization (cult).

No of course not because that cult is way more IMPORTANT then his only biological child! All that money and NOT ONE BIT of brain matter in his head!!

God will never keep you from your child, he's not in God's path. Lady K, did well, she protected her daughter and got out. I feel for Suri, his father is well known and in the light lime and she sees how she's meaningless to him. May God forgive you Tom. It cries in the eyes of God.

Katie was very proactive when Tom got involved with Scientology. She really didn't like it for her or her daughter and she knew Tom didn't want to leave the church so ultimately she had to divorce Tom to save her daughter and herself from a cult. Katie was super smart when she started to catch how extreme the "religion" was. I don't blame her cults are not a place for anybody especially a child.

Ambush? NO that was to save her child from lunatics

Any parent that puts their so called beliefs infront on their own children do not deserve to have them. Someday he will be sorry he thru away hie relationship over his daughter. Also Gd would never of asked of him. The Gd I know and love would want him to be a good and loving father.

@sharonevans5186

Жыл бұрын

GOD

@deborahmiller1494

Жыл бұрын

@@sharonevans5186 im sure you think its a sign of disrespect to not add the vowel to the lords name or title. But in our faith its just the opposite. It shows respect. I apolize if you were offended that was not my intent.

@TinyTC

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't believe in God, and Scientology doesn't believe in parent/child relationships. So he probably will not regret it a bit.

he is pitiful

That is so wrong to prevent father and daughter from seeing each other! 😱😡

This is my kind of mother & warrior! ❤

Plenty of churches do this…not just them. Once a family member leaves…then the whole church sides with who stays. Then they get you to stop focusing on your family.

@EggertOlafs

Жыл бұрын

Those who do so are not churches, those are Cults.

@susanalexander6721

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, no Church I have ever been in.

@prashantgurung2635

Жыл бұрын

​@@susanalexander6721I have seen many churches

@AuroraSun94

Жыл бұрын

​@prashantgurung2635 I haven't so can you name some?😊

@prashantgurung2635

Жыл бұрын

@@AuroraSun94 I Live in India State of Kerala And Here Churches do That

If I was her, and witnessed Tom starting to bring his other children to Auditing/Counseling appointments when they were just four-years-old, I would have immediately started plotting the escape, to make sure that Suri NEVER goes to an auditing/counseling appointment (they can be extremely psychologically damaging, and I imagine that's even more true for children).

Smart and brave, good for her and her daughter 👏👏👏

GOOD ON HER!! SAVE YOUR CHILDREN❤❤❤❤❤

Well done Katie ❤

The Scientology organization really has their claws deep inside TC😢

Scientology policy does not prohibit TC from having a relationship with his daughter. Suri is not a suppressive person. TC has chosen to abandon his daughter. Big hero!