Other Gods: So Kukulkan, whats ur stick? Kukulkan: Damage Other Gods: Yeah we all do damage, but whats ur specialty? Kukulkan: Damage, a lot of it

@M3ntalVib3z

7 ай бұрын

Other gods: okay, but what do you do. Kuku: big dragon.

@dixiezucker7195

7 ай бұрын

it makes so much sense in his kit though because he’s so unsafe his movement ability literally does nothing against an assassin jumping on you 😭

@holschermarc

7 ай бұрын

@@dixiezucker7195 I know, thats why i love him. He is just very simple with a good amount of Skill expression when it comes to positioning and Mapawarness. For someone old and slow like me its the perfect God. Simple and effectiv

@nicholausstevens1262

7 ай бұрын

Please try this build on kuku Pendulum Book of thoth Warlock staff Poly Charon coin Calamitous Tahuti Doom Orb This gives you about 1500 power with both red pots and FG, plus you get all the extra move speed from Charon and orb

@holschermarc

7 ай бұрын

@@nicholausstevens1262 Sounds interesting, havent played much Smite as of late but i might consider it. Thanks for the tip

Ah yes a very objective and not at all opinionated video, what could possibly go wrong

@oogabooga1228

7 ай бұрын

Lol

@vulka1232

7 ай бұрын

Yea i was about to write same thing.

@Elzzaw

7 ай бұрын

"Nike is annoying to play against so she goes into B tier." - The King Arthur main.

@KaizokuHaru

7 ай бұрын

he was right tho

@lynettemurray1331

7 ай бұрын

@@Elzzaw Does she counter KA in some way?

I think Shiva would be a lot more interesting if you had some greater control over his bliss and destruction modes. As it is, you just kind of throw out abilities, and the buff/nerf is just something that might happen.

@HookahOtaku

7 ай бұрын

I Agree, Shiva is pretty well designed OUTSIDE that stupid passive. It should give both effects on a skill once that skill is maxed, in vein of Scylla getting magic power per skill max.

@ChrisRWitt

7 ай бұрын

I feel the same way about Cu Chulainn. I'd like more control over his transformations.

@leonarsjohnson4291

7 ай бұрын

​@@ChrisRWittplease God no

@jomaroal22

7 ай бұрын

@@ChrisRWitt you already have control with his 2. Its an ability made literally to control his passive

Absolutely no way King Arthur is S tier, the amount of items he has abused and gotten nerfed instantly drags him down, they have to design items around him so he doesn’t completely breaks the game constantly

@Cl-lR0ME

7 ай бұрын

nah king goated

@raf8758

7 ай бұрын

W king moment

Personally I’d put Rama into almost perfect. He’s a true adc that can build nearly every metas build (besides a very rare ability based adc meta)

I feel like Hades has a really easy change to make his design feel so much better. And that's to reduce the total targets he can detonate to 3, but increase the damage from each slightly to make up for it. It buffs his late game where he is weaker, and reduces his unbeatable laning phase.

@BayBlends

7 ай бұрын

Heck yea!

@CoolBurnz

7 ай бұрын

I think a better way to achieve this would have the detonate damage scale based on the amount of minions An example would be for each minion in detonate range the damage is reduced by a certain percentage, tuned to not allow him to full clear so easily unless he’s building full damage. This affect wouldn’t apply to gods so that in team fights he can still do relevant damage and isn’t punished for doing what he is supposed to be doing which is getting close to people.

@holschermarc

7 ай бұрын

I love playing Hades and that sounds like a fair change to me

@archze0n_560

7 ай бұрын

While that is a good change I just wish he had more to him. I love him, but he's boring

@zysofup3246

7 ай бұрын

As someone with 20+stars on hades i dont think that'll do much. Hades has 80-90% of his damage come from his 3 however he's too easily countered in high levels. Dash in and you get cc'ed to death before you can use your whole kit. Late game I've found when you have a disadvantage you have to dash and only get one ability to use before you die or your team kills them. Which is better the high damage small aoe 3 or the massive cc aoe ult that gives protections. Sutyr is the warrior version of hades but falls off way harder late game. If you're going to nerf his 3 I'd say don't go small. Do a bigger nerf but do something like cc immunity at the end of his dash sort of like rav or something so he doesn't just absolutely win early to be useless late game. Hurting his early/mid especially in a season focused on pretty much end game only matters would make hades pretty much useless/unplayable like they did to erlang.

Inter: These gods are badly designed because they're really annoying to play against. Also Inter: Puts Ganesha, Geb and King Arthur in S tier. Sure this is about god design?

@unairay8226

7 ай бұрын

I was about to comment this. I think the "it's annoying to play against" has nothing to do with the design of a god. There is always going to be things you find annoying

Finishing the A tier: Okay, these takes aren't bad at all Starts S tier: OMG WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

@HookahOtaku

7 ай бұрын

Just his favorite gods, KA S tier made me laugh, his favorite god, not actually a valid excuse to put a faceroll god on S tier, but meh.

Amaterasu is one of those gods that just feels like sometimes simple is better. She isn’t as flashy as some of the others but she just feels smooth. Her 1 having a damage stance or a movement speed stance is a large reason why she works. And her auto attacks just feel good with her passive. She feels like a good boxer when you know you’re about to start getting that passive damage increase and can actually run someone down when she wins the boxing. Plus her ult can swing team fights which feels good from any role.

honestly i think set is underrated even at A tier, his entire kit flows together so well, placing a spawn, using your 1 to throw it in, 3'ing in and ulting, using the damage from your spawns and 3 to gain ult stacks all so good.

Could you do one on gods you think need reworks. Like a tier list of Like S: no rework, A: change 1 ability, B: change 2 abilities, C change 3 abilities, D: total rework, all abilities.

@imgonnacream

7 ай бұрын

he has

Good thoughts. I had some additional (fairly random) ones. Hel: her light stance 2 is probably a bit too much of a counter for some things. The timing and duration are more forgiving than things like Chiron 1, so you can fairly reliably cleanse things like Ares ult for your team. Not saying Ares is useless aside from the ult, but it's close. At least Cerberus can ult her directly, so she can't cleanse (although she can cleanse teammates if Cerb ults when she isn't in range or she uses beads and cleanses allies). Xing Tian is in the same category as Cerb. Vamana: I generally agree with most of your assessments. This one, however, I agree with incredibly strongly. The 2 being reworked into not just damage would help. A new ult would help. Yeah, it's a boring kit with an annoying, one-dimensional ult. Khumbhakarna: Yeah, frustrating to play against. His passive feels clunky (too strong against ability characters, nearly worthless if they have attack speed). Ao Kuang: Honestly, I put him in the same category as Ullr and Susano. Insane burst damage with very little counterplay against a good opponent after you burn beads. Not saying that they don't require skill. Just that if they have skill, it doesn't matter much what their opponent does. Zeus: Really needs a rework. When his charges detonated for full damage, he was overpowered. When they were scaled down after the first charge, he felt under-powered. His non-conquest nerfs make him feel pretty bad. However, without them, he was frustrating to play against in Assault, Arena, or other times when the team was tightly grouped. Loki: I do actually like rework Loki. He was incredibly annoying before the rework and lacked counterplay. Not saying he's perfectly balanced now, but generally he feels okay to play as and to play against. Erlang: The knock-up being gone still feels weird. Ra: A really old character. Surprisingly, he's also one that they've kept up rather well. Lots of older characters feel dated, and the main things to make relevant in games are tweaks to their numbers. Ra, however, has somehow gotten more insightful changes than most. Kukulkan: Feels dated and simple. Started playing in late 2014, bought Kuku because he cost less favor than most of the other characters. Really liked him, but he just hasn't kept pace very well. With his insanely high power, he was overpowered with proc items until they were nerfed (he still does okay with poly+1 combos, but even that feels a bit clunky). There have been times in the meta where I built breastplate of valor on him most games (back when it gave more mana), times when his 3 could 100-0 squishies late game, and times when he just feels lackluster (okay to try to steal objectives with his ult, but not good enough to pick over other options). He really needs a new passive specifically, but could use some minor work on most of his kit. Khepri: Brings a huge amount of value to the team. That said, I can't stand the character. He's annoying to play against, since losing a kill to his ult is rough. He can be a decent teammate, but if 85% of his ults are on himself it tends to go poorly. However, I utterly cannot stand playing as him due to the sheer amount of salt that teammates have when they aren't revived. If other teammates are revived and they are not, it's a war zone in chat. Of course, the teammates who rage like that are the same ones who use ageis during the ult and then get upset when they die upon both ending. Zhong Kui: One of the characters with very different build paths being viable. Usually, he's better with some damage and some survivability (solo lane hybrid type build). Still, 5 defense items with bancroft's talon or an auto-attack build can do extremely well. Geb: My all-time favorite tryhard tank. His shield is amazing, he has good cc, fairly good mobility, etc... I enjoy some aggressive tanks like Kuzenbo and Mulan, but Geb is what I use when I really want a win. Getting items that do bonus damage to shields did hurt him some, but it was a needed update. Usually when I play Geb I also build heroism and shell for a shield meme. Ganesha: I used to play him way more than I do now. He feels a bit tryhard, but has a great kit. Occasionally teammates will be annoyed by your lack of kills, but that's not super common. Baron Samedi: A release being over-powered is more the rule than the exception. Sometimes it doesn't ruin the game for a few weeks, but it makes certain parts of it miserable (like the Artio release had solo lane be misery, but other lanes and game modes were fine). If a release is too game-breaking in a wide context, then I usually just spam a good counterpick (unless there isn't a very good one, then I just play Assault). Yemoja: Totally agree that she's insane at high levels of play. I'd probably qualify calling her bad at low levels to calling her bad at both low and mid levels. Baba Yaga: The effect, not just the shape, of the 1 is RNG. For me, the outlier is the silence. Slowing enemies, speeding allies, and boosting ally protections are fine. There have been so many times where the reason the enemy (or me) either got away or died was whether or not it was the silence.

Nox: rated low because 2-1 combo or bust, ult does damage I guess Hercules: near perfection because 2-1 combo or bust, ult does damage I guess lol

@isaacvitela5131

7 ай бұрын

Nox's utility is not as rewarding and has depend on it to even be efficient. Which is why if you pick her for support, you will be laughed out of the ranked league. Casuals? Go nuts. Here doesn't have to rely on the 2-1 combo as much, plus it's pretty fun pick on your opponent by denying them an escape.

@chillpengeru

7 ай бұрын

​@@isaacvitela5131shes been meta in spl multiple times. I don't get your first point. What about the 1 and 2 "isn't efficient" and what about it makes it bad for the pros? Instead beads or death combo from range on a low cool down.

@ilovewii55

7 ай бұрын

@@isaacvitela5131 I mean I was like 80% just making a joke because in my opinion it’s almost the exact same. Obviously there are differences and their roles play a huge part in evaluating kit balance, it’s just funny to me how one combo bot can be seen so poorly and the other combo bot can look near perfect. It’s not straightforward which is silly to me.

@isaacvitela5131

7 ай бұрын

@garretgervais6103 well here is thing on that, if you can't land your roots, then you are as useless as an ares that can't land his chains. Yeah, but that's spl where they communicate and work like a team if they want to win. What does make one think they can do that in casual or lower ranked games? Because unless you are spl yourself, that won't hold much water. :/ Even if you do coordinate, how often is that? Skill difference is a thing after all, and yemoja is the prime example of this.

@chillpengeru

7 ай бұрын

@@isaacvitela5131 I'm so confused, part of your original point was that she's bad in spl but fine in casual, but now you're arguing the opposite. You're not making any sense. It is true with nox that if you miss the combo she sucks, at any level.

arthur would be the last person to get a visual rework his base outfit is so damn good and so detailed.

This man reeeally faved Arthur. His whole career was entirely OP or useless based on a single item.

I thought Vamana would do better considering how good his passive syncs with his role as a Solo. Its like his kit is simple but the ult saves everything else. - Out of position? Ult - Dash is down? Ult - Getting ganked? Ult - Abilities on CD? Ult Although, He could use an Osiris treatment where his non ult abilities have utility besides the slows on his 3

Arthur registers as a problem for me due to his overcrowding of movement abilities giving him the 'Riven issue', where he has so many dashes and the like that slows and roots are permanently wiped. This makes him feel pretty unfair to deal with, and without a cripple or silence, much safer to play. I'd also say that 'tanks' like Odin and Herc, that ostensibly have some strong team-help tools but often forego their team entirely to just sit on an enemy backliner are awful to face, and I much prefer someone like Artio that's a genuine obstacle, but not someone that'll kill you without her team. Ra also sits quite low for me because so much of his value is so heavily telegraphed that doing well with him often doesn't feel like it's him playing well, as much as his team providing lockdown, or his enemies making blunders. That 1 isn't going to hit anything any other way. Lastly, I think Eset's one of my favourite designs, being rather brawly, with a very high value kit that packs a punch, but offers much more than plain damage. Ix Chel much the same, with maybe an advantage for me personally because her 1 makes her work better with Soul Reaver, making her a better tank-buster. And I hate those 'tanks'.

awesome video as always! Been a long time since you've posted a basic Solo or Jungle Gameplay/Stream Video. They're simple and good videos too

@Inters3ct

7 ай бұрын

They tend to not do that well unfortunately, I think people come to the channel for stuff other than gameplay. There are loads of channels that do that better than I do. But I do like to put a few out every now and then on new patches and stuff.

@madtrackk

7 ай бұрын

@@Inters3ct yeah I figured that might be the reason why. No worries keep doing your thing Kappa!

@Riiiley

7 ай бұрын

@@Inters3ctat least we can all appreciate the way you analyze and break down topics and tier lists in smite. You do great in what you do and the videos you do put out !! Much appreciated

@Inters3ct

7 ай бұрын

While i do agree nox is a bad design i have to play devils advocate and say that multiple mages are, use 1 2 combo and be useless until its back up lol. Also, justice for my boy erlang, bring back the true turtle!

@dannyflintstone7003

7 ай бұрын

At least all other mages will still end up doing damage if they only hit the first part of their combo where nox is incredibly hit or miss

@mrdhong2143

7 ай бұрын

​@@dannyflintstone7003get gud just hit the combo then 😂

@dannyflintstone7003

7 ай бұрын

@@mrdhong2143 ?

As a fenrir enjoyer I agree with your placement but for different reasons. I think his 3 is fine even though it counters immobile gods but it’s also heavily countered by cripples. I think having that counter play to his 3 is good design. However, his 2 is very confusing. It’s a great stim but very weird on Fen. The stats it gives are stats that he would want but it’s also an AA focused stim while he’s majority ability based. I see it’s real only use is to buff abilities and clear camps faster and get his passive.

I think ymur could do with something extra on the wall. Maybe like a skadi ice or janus speed/slow buff on the floor. Allowing either ymir to catch up or slow down the enemy if the wall is shattered it leave an icey area

This is how you know a man has lost it, rest in piece Intersect

Is it just me but I would give sobeks pluck/1 the abilty to move trough minions so you don't pluck that one minion in lane, especially now that minions follow you a lot more than any time before. He's ult is nice but I feel like it's a bit lackluster compare to other supps. Maybe giving a stun at the end cast of knockup, or maybe even a movement speed buff while channeling he's ult, or making he's swamp disable heal as before.

Would love to see one based on how mythological accurate they are made ... because some of them are quite bad 😅

@wintermightcome8642

7 ай бұрын

Loki....

@some_shitposting_idiot3023

7 ай бұрын

Odin has basically no magic Gungnir doesn't hit every single attack He doesn't have his wolves Thor doesn't use lightning it just follows him Mjolnir is like gungnir it can't miss it's attacks He doesn't have his goats Loki can't transform Etc etc etc

@TragikDino

7 ай бұрын

I do like the idea of Odin having his wolves, if they want to half ass it then I would just have to wolves create a magic field outside of his ult, so anyone who just walks out has their movement speed and damage output reduced

@TragikDino

7 ай бұрын

The problem with Thor having more lightning attacks is that it’ll make him seem more like a physical Zeus, I think his 2 should be changed to a multi cast ability(like Tiamat flying ult or Morgan La fey’s one) so people can choose between a lightning bolt, the wall, or an electric field around himself (like Artio’s cripple) that decreases attack speed or something

@TragikDino

7 ай бұрын

Wait…. You mean that Thor doesn’t use lightning in the mythology, not that he doesn’t use it enough in game, that didn’t come across well 😅. But most of the myths I’ve read weren’t about Thor, more about Odin and… that one dude, that was shot with an arrow made of tensile or something… his mom made everything on earth except the tensile promise never to hurt her son, you know you would think I would remember that but I really don’t 🤣

Still waiting for YOUR hot takes, good sir

Surtr deserves his own tier below D since no other character has 3 abilities (!!!) that don’t work half the time when you press them: 1) His 1 animation has ridiculous post-fire frames which don’t let you auto for 20 years unless you AAC absolutely perfectly; 2) His 2 interacts inconsistently with CC when you cancel it (you sometimes lose the cooldown and sometimes you don’t since the grab portion of the ability is not synced properly with the targeter change and you can get CC’ed out of the grab before you can physically cancel the ability). Also as a bonus your creep gets stuck on invisible walls ALL THE TIME even though the targeter shows that it will go past the visible wall; 3) You can’t use his ult when running into a wall at an angle (you press the button and nothing happens).

Arthur is a poorly designed God one item determines whether he is good or bad

I really don’t think Fafnir is a better Cthulhu overall, sure he is great at team fights and burning objectives but he only gets more power and a different effect on one of his abilities. Cthulhu get access to a whole other kit, shreds everyone’s prots, provide a really big and reliable cc that can’t be dr’d, and his heal is a nice trade off for his health while also doing dmg and providing power and mov speed. Sure is not much but when you’re providing a bit extra power even to a support while shredding prots it’s gonna be really good overall. But my big thing with him is his passive. It’s so underrated. While it’s active you get extra power so in laning phase is good, and if you’re getting ganked it’s even better because you’ll take a while to kill everytime unless you’re low so that 50 more power coming in suddenly when you’re more tank really catches junglers and solo laners by surprise. And the best thing is getting the most overpowered stat in the game for free by managing to stack it, it doesn’t matter if you can’t win lane phase or if you’re behind because if you play right and stack that passive you’ll just be way more powerful simply by playing right.

The weird thing about this video is for the most part I agree with your opinions on a lot of characters UNTIL you get to s tier. Maybe it's because it's easier to nit pick opinions on the extremes and all that. But for me almost half of that s tier feel starkly out of place. Obviously there is a subjective opinion at the base of this, just like my assertion I made a mere sentence before this. But I kinda wish we got a I guess set of design principles that you value to better contextualize some things since the brief descriptions you gave for some characters feel like you contradict yourself without having that base. Like you state multiple times that a character can be frustrating to play against as justification for lower tier placements, yet baba yaga is in s tier. THE premier character of oh shit I got rolled like I was dashing through a team figth and she happened to get a silence, or my longe range ability was going to kill her but she rolled the protection circle so she makes it out. Don't get me wrong I think baba can be fun. But Im simply illustrating that the point of frustration that I imagine will come from this video will be the lack of definition of the very subjective term of "well designed". It just feels like a tier list with characters you like with some low hanging community consensus to fill out the higher tiers.

But how would you change Freya though?

That KA take is very opinionated . That god has single handedly made it impossible to balance items like bluestone and glad shield. Too many abilities to proc them so when they become good he just dominates the entire game and when they’re bad he is pretty weak. He gets those items nerfed and we saw it happen in season which just makes every tank weaker because of his design. He belongs closer to C tier, 100% not in S tier

@MrWuaandax

7 ай бұрын

thats not really a KA issue tho

@Elzzaw

7 ай бұрын

@@MrWuaandax Yes it is.

@MrWuaandax

7 ай бұрын

@@Elzzaw nop Is garbage smite items issue lmao

@Elzzaw

7 ай бұрын

@@MrWuaandaxYep it's garbage god design KA issue.

@MrWuaandax

7 ай бұрын

@@Elzzaw oww im sry a KA bullied you😢

Been playing Freya since the physical/magical item combo days. She’s been through a lot, and it’s sometimes fun to pick her to left click and destroy, but I think her kit needs to be put to rest. Maybe give her a full re-design as a warrior or something

@rizztraininghamster

7 ай бұрын

they spent so much time on her cause couldn't find any other way to use her sword even if in many pictures she doesn't have a sword at all. As for warrior design she would fit great but the problem is they will have to change her type of atk to physical and I didn't see them doing it to anyone . As for guardian class she wont fit cuz of her legends. BUT if they introduce magical warrior!

@TragikDino

7 ай бұрын

I hate playing against her and don’t play her myself but I do think she needs a re-work. I generally hate aa gods, they feel very basic and not very skill expressive, but I think Freya should keep some of her aa kit. Pulse is my candidate, but Banish is nice too, I think she should be a mix of basic attacks and abilities. Her ult should be revised as just be a self knock back with no damage, but she has damage and cc immunity during it (The animation would be like .8 seconds or something, very short) and I like the idea of an execute ult on her, but I’m not sure how it should look or function.

@Th3ranc0r

7 ай бұрын

@@rizztraininghamster yeah that’s what i think they would have to do. Completely remove her from the game and re-introduce her as an entirely new one

IMO Eset for me is definitely S. Her kit is the most satisfying mage kit in the game for me, she's so much fun and in general well balanced.

@FluxCrush

7 ай бұрын

I definitely agree! There aren’t many aspects of her kit that I would considered annoying or unfair. Among the best utility mages in the game.

@chillpengeru

7 ай бұрын

Agreed, so fun, only time she was op was the lvl 1 power pot cheese back in the day, can play multiple roles with multiple builds. Not triggering to play against.

Charon has a major flaw. In assault in can ult you from his fountain to your fountain and if you are not fast enough on buying, that will take you out of fountain and denie you your items. Pls nerf. Jokes aside, Maui has a pretty big flaw, in casual gamemode, nobody in the game knows how to use his 2, the bubble thing, and so you are stuck with 2 basic abilities (the grab and the leap) because trying to use your 2 will result in noticing that nobody cares about poor little old bubble 😢

King Arthur in S? The God has never been balanced. He's always been terrible or OP

Camazots has really weird problems. His abilities are good, but they take forever to come out and don't mat h the visual ques. Same with a lot of gods, but I find this problem to be particularly bad on him.

@matthewcochrane9499

7 ай бұрын

In my opinion cama’s problem now is the fact he lost his identity has the very high sustain but average damage assassin. Now he’s just a very high damage, low CC assassin with no real identity. I remember in season 8 when he’d do average damage but he’d heal nearly 400 off a single 2 and his passive was actually useful

@MrBuns-yi2hk

7 ай бұрын

@@matthewcochrane9499 he still is pretty good if you play him like Tsuki and just zone them.

I think this list lacks a bit in clarity as to what actually matters for design. I mean, Intersect spoke a lot about how fun for example Tyr is to play and considered how unfun he can be to play against. Then for other gods it was about their problematic impact on metas, like Hel being a lot more problematic than Change or Aphrodite. So, I guess my point is, it would be more interesting to speak about a list, when there is clarity regarding what counts as a flaw exactly or what is a good design. This would allow for an actual debate regarding these specific defined flaws instead of a general opinion as to what constitutes a flawed design. For instance, if we take fun to play, then Hel would probably be really high up. With high cdr it is just fun to be able to always press your abilities and be able to aid your team or put on pressure on the enemies. And anyone playing King Arthur can not deny, that it is great fun to almost always have tools in your disposal to aid your team or pressure enemies. Hel zooms through the map, heals her teammates, gets them out of CC and does a ton of damage. Fun to play? Yes, I would say. But if we talk about fun to play against, then her insane safety, her ability to negate her allies mistakes by cleansing CC, her speed and healing become major issues. So, in a way, what makes her fun to play also makes her unfun to play against. Where would you put the flaw then? But to extend an olive palm: I liked his approach with the Freya and Arachne. Their internal mechanics are rather dull. They basically have two stims and are either op and ruin the game or the stims are not powerful enough and they are never seen. So, if internal mechanics are discussed, we can talk about how the kit enables the god to make interesting plays. I mean, I like Zeus, but his kit does not allow for much. He barely has any cc, a minor movementspeed bonus but otherwise it is just damage ontop of damage. In comparison to Scylla who can also dish out a ton of damage, but has decent mobility, a powerful root and a resetting execute, Zeus just does not compare in what his kit allows him to do.

- How many times has he said the word polarizing? - Yes.

Solid list, I would have Ganesha way lower. His ult is just a copy-paste of old Nuwa, a skill-less silence that lasts way too long are my biggest criticisms of his kit - they just make him feel terrible and so frustrating to play against

Did you rank Ne Zha?

Another thing I find interesting about Baron is that he gives himself and the team an auto refilled mixed pot for just having him on the team. I wouldn't say I agree with the whole list but I don't disagree either. I do agree with Shiva(Even though he's one of my fav warriors) cos it is just a 2, 1 combo, his dash sucks ass and his ultimate is basically just a mana refill or a little damage. The heal becomes irrelevant late game, actually his ult is more or less useless late game.

Thor's ultimate should make more noise when charging

Bro really loves Arthur 😂

To contribute, even if a little: a definition of a good design could be fun to play and play/challenge against (hard but not annoying, we don’t need more annoying foes aka Arachne aka baka aka I play the game you don’t characters)

I think it depends on the game mode for some of these.

Fun fact: no one watched to the end of the video yet

Give some counterplay that a single person can do for maman's 3 and she would be amazing, otherwise her being able to take like a third of your health with nothing you can do individually unless your right next to your tower, and even then her dash out covers most of that ground. is very annoying

ok i have an idea ah puch's 2 instead of being aoe damadge it becomes pet summon that resurects corpses as basicaly nu wa soldiers

I’d move Bast & Skadi to B-Tier, drop Chuculain, Horus, Shiva, and Ao Kuang to C-Tier. I’d drop lance to B-tier as well. He has no business getting a shield. Same with Rava.

I really enjoyed your list, and I appreciate where you put Guan Yu and what you said about him. To me he's perfect.

Either be biased or objective instead switching back and forth depending on the god

I think Poseidon should be 1 tier down, his ultimate is just way too braindead when you combo with his whirlpool. If they don’t have beads when he does that combo they just die and it hardly requires any skill. The rest of his kit is very well designed so I think his ult needs to be changed mechanically to not be such a nuke and nerfing damage numbers is not great because then it becomes useless

Can’t wait to see Hou Yi in S Bruh

@HookahOtaku

7 ай бұрын

The bias is hilarious eh? its not even objective, its just "he/she is boring" wow, good argument bro.

15 seconds in and I’m already expecting all warriors to be in S and most mages to be in C/D. I’ll check back at the end…

@Inters3ct

7 ай бұрын

It might skew that way because of personal biases but there are definitely warriors I think are poorly designed and mages I think are perfect.

@FluxCrush

7 ай бұрын

@@Inters3ctThat’s totally fair, I tend to to skew the opposite and would put most warriors in c/d. Definitely some mages that have really bad designs, especially Nox/ Pers

Your idea of hood design is fifferrmt than mine. My idea of good design is how well their kit flows and combos.

It hurts me to hear your casual Nox hate. She is one of my mains and I definitely think she doesn't get the credit she deserves. Learning the ins and outs of her kit beyond the 1 + 2 combo can be really rewarding. The root on the 1 is not DRable so it's kinda like a banish in that regard and gives her more value that one might initially think. Knowing that securing the damage on the 2 is always a solid move, but that the silence on it is the more power feature the majority of the time is an awesome thing to consider. Once you do you aren't as locked into the 1 + 2 combo mentality. Dropping the 2 on someone who you see is targeting a team mate just in time for them to succesfully use their escape: priceless. That silence to interrupt abilities or stop their usage feels at times like a cousin to the geb shield, but you are applying it to the enemy. Knowing when to use the 2 for it's damage or it's utility, or both, is one of the strong indicators of a high lvl Nox player. Lastly, I want to say that the main reason why Nox has a reputation for being a 1 + 2 combo bot is because her 3 is severely under utilized. It's hard to use in fights when you don't have a frontline who is aggressively pushing into/behind the enemy line so that you can dash into them through at least 1 of the enemies. Because of this and the fact that landing the shadow step into your teammate is a high risk high reward move, most ppl save the 3 as an escape which locks them into that 1 + 2 combo mentality. The double hit on the 3 makes the 3 hardest hitting ability of her kit if the info one this site I'm looking at is accurate, but you don't see it used that aggressively in my experience. Overall, I think she gets a bad rep for being a basic telegraphed 1 + 2 combo bot, but in actuality I see her as one of the higher skill expressive gods in the game. The negative opinion most ppl have of her is because those ppl in question are probably only used to fighting against unskilled Nox players that only really do the 1 + 2.

The Nox take was hilarious, “ This god only uses her 2,1 combo. Boring. Even though her 3 is an escape, and most gods normally don’t spam their ult.

Horus has Infinite Skill Ceiling

Best ad read. I loved the first game. I had no idea they made a sequel.

kinda agree with most of your opinion, i would say i don't understand it about agni -> god is just an ult spam god, his stun is completly stupid, it's range is fucked. The god is unfun to play and no one play him unless he is meta. in my opinion, some of the worst god are nox / vamana / agni / mulan -> they are played when they are meta, other time, no play at all Say a lot about them

Erlang is honestly D tier after the rework

I thought it would be video about visual design 😂 Speaking of it, any plans on doing that?

Freya is poorly designed overall, but her banish is one of my favorite CC abilities in the game. It's her most well designed ability imo.

@samuelsilva8364

7 ай бұрын

whoooop

I feel like the word flaw is being used in place of things I don't like. Cuz to me a plot is something that conceptually speaking if they were removed the character would be better. But some of these suggestions sound more like if they were removed the character would be worse but you would find them less annoying.

Nu wa is a stun and run character .if you miss the stun you get dove on and die and when you do ult they just wait for you on the ground

Carybdis (idk how write her name) deserve to change her 1 and ultimate Her 1 should give should deal some extra damage like 5% which is small and her ult just be like scylla. About loki, I know ok to face i don't deny it but loki is suppose to assassinate his enemy and be the cheating/trick god. I suggest to bring back his old two back but maintaing the tick damage and the final tick is a burst attack, balance his damage but bring split push loki back. Arachne and bakasura should be changed because they are just double w machines Amaterasu is something i like but the way you should play as tank and focus on basic attack is feels bad...

This is a very polarizing tier list

I actually like everything about Nox EXCEPT for the 2 and the passive Make 2 a burst silence, like instead of an aoe it's just a normal bomb, and make her passive something actually interesting. then she's golden. Her 1 is probably my favorite CC ability in the game, just moving around freely while locking someone down just feels good

@HookahOtaku

7 ай бұрын

Shes def in A tier but this guy just doesnt like the gods so he places them at the bottom. The excuses make me laugh.

@MrWuaandax

7 ай бұрын

nox is completely garbage to play against tho no way it is lmao@@HookahOtaku

@theHindenberg

7 ай бұрын

-"garbage to play against"- "she farms me and i dont like it"

@MrWuaandax

7 ай бұрын

@@theHindenberg not really u dont see nox at all, silences in general are garbage to play against, Ganesha Is another prime example. Long lasting silences that is. Lately on hi rez Channel they did like a most hated God top 5 even the pros had both of them in the list. It aint that hard to understand why long lasting silences, or long CCS in general, are garbo to play against.

My own opinions even though no one cares (Keep in mind I'm an inexperienced player) D tier is about right C tier is decent, but I actually really like ah puch's design, I think he should be higher. Bastet could be B, but she's fine in C. I also think Bakasura could be considered D tier, he's just very boring and all his abilities feel OP and pathetic at the same time which is just weird to me. B tier is good but, as a duel main show Tsukuyomi some respect. I think he's so fun to play with Hydras it's very fun having a ranged auto right after an ability (Which does as much as an ability with trans and hydras). His shuriken cooldown mechanic is fun, his 2 is very fun to use and feels quite balanced imo. The only real problem he has is his ult in my opinion, but think it works great and is super fun in 1v1! He just feels so smooth to play. I think neith, aphrodite, and amc should be in C tier. As much as I love xing I agree with this placement. His kit is super fun but has no synergy really, and his 2 DR'ing itself is so stupid. His ult feels like a weird Ares ult and his 1 feels like it should be damage but then also has 50% auto attack reduction on it? I love him nonetheless. He bo should be higher imo, he has a fun risk/reward play style. his water spout just knocks back too far, if it was more similar to vulcan meatball I think it would be better. Kali should be C. Her passive is odd and her ultimate is so stupid. She feels a bit janky over all. A tier is good. Chaac could be B tier because of how many effects he has while also dealing damage. Also boring abilities and passive. Kuku should be a tier lower as well. He has such high damage and mobility with an immunity to slows, but his damage is either really hard or really easy to get off which makes him feel inconsistent. Also insta wave clear for free with his 3 is just so bothersome to play against. S tier has a couple Gods I think should be SIGNIFICANTLY lower, those being Morgan, Thor, and anhur. Ravana is super fun to play but since the percentage health rework he should be one tier lower. As a Baron main I approve. HE IS GOATED WITH THE SAUCE. Good stuff man!

Persephone was a god who you had to put effort in to learn her and got rewarded for it...was, revert Persephone

I agree with most of your decisions. I love that you put my two favourite gods, King Arthur and Tiamat, in S-tier. My one big argument is Nox. I'd put her in B-tier, but only played in support. Your issues with Nox mostly apply to mage Nox. I like playing with her in support because you can use her silence just as a silence. Stop a key ability. Wait for the sound of Thor ult and stop him from insta-killing your backline by making him unable to combo after landing. You also have your 1 being a cripple to ruin the day of a Fenrir or someone similar, or give your carry some space from an attacker. Last resort, you can reduce the damage of someone diving your backline by ulting. She's a great pick into ability-based assassins. I do wish her ult did more in this role, her passive is near useless, and her dash is almost entirely for mobility (boring).

For some reason, I thought this was going to be about the character designs, not their kits. lol

having played smite for 4k ingame hours, i agree with about 90% of your rankings. But i cant stand both king arthur and Morgan Le Fay's kits so yeah :3

Maman Brigitte, probably the most broken god ever introduced to Smite, in S tier. Huh.

I would love to see this God Reworks Like take a god and judge how their rework affected them, sometimes multiple times in Freyas case

@Inters3ct

7 ай бұрын

I have done that, it's already up on the channel from a few months ago :)

@safc826

7 ай бұрын

Oh I must have missed that! Will for sure check that out@@Inters3ct

Gods with offcenter autos, or gods whose autos take a really long time to xome out are frustrating to play.

2:15 Arachne and Freya have the same problem: they have _2_ basic attack buffs that could have easily been combined together and/or intwined into their passives to free up space for new abilities… Freya for example, I could collapse Irradiate into her buff (have her gain 25 bonus damage to her basics for every 5 levels, and then have the 25% scaling activate when she uses Pulse… Or just make pulse 35% scaling instead of 15), and THEN give her a new ability to replace Irradiate… Something like: _Ride of the Valkyries_ Ability Type: Leap, Circle, Buff, Debuff Range/Radius: Variable/30 minimum Passive: Whenever Gods, objectives and jungle bosses die within 100 units of Freya, she heals for 50 health and mana (+ an additional 0.5% of her maximum health and mana for each ability rank, maxing out at 2.5%) Active: Freya targets and off to a target god within line of sight (Even above, through walls if visible on the either side), granting increased protections and movement speed to all allied gods at the landing zone while slowing enemy gods and and debuffing their protections. Buffs/Debuffs last 7 seconds. Freya can target an allied god that has recently died, and if she does, she revives that fallen god at the coat of her own life, pooling her remaining health and mana into the revived god. Freya’s respawn time is lengthened if she does this. Protections Buff/Debuff (5/10/15/20/25) Movement Speed Buff/Slow (5%/10%/15%/20%/25%) Cooldown time: 10 seconds.

@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire

7 ай бұрын

As for Arachne… I would collapse Venomous Bite and Predator together as such: _Venomous Predator_ _Arachne's Basic Attacks gain 1.25% Physical damage for every 5% of a target's missing Health. Upon ability activation, Arachne's next Basic Attack within 5s does additional damage and infects the target with Venom, dealing damage over time, lowering their healing received and healing Arachne every 0.5s for 3s._ Initial Damage: 50/75/100/125/150, damage increases every 5 levels (Gains 35% of your Physical Power at level 20) Healing Reduction: 40% Damage per Tick: 10/18/26/34/42, Damage increases every 5 levels (gains +8% of your Physical Power at level 20) Ability Type: Buff, Damage Healing per Tick: 8/15/22/29/36, Healing increases every 5 levels. And to replace Venomous Bite… _Jumping Spider_ Ability Type: Leap, Damage, Buff, Debuff. Range: 50 Radius: 15 Passive: _Killing objectives, jungle bosses and enemy gods reduces this ability’s cooldown by 1.5 seconds._ _Arachne pounces forward, damaging enemies hit. If Arachne hits an enemy, she slows them while gaining haste._ Slow: 15% for 2 seconds. Haste: 5 seconds. Cooldown: 15 seconds.

@mrdhong2143

7 ай бұрын

Thank God neither of you are on the balance team Freya and Arachne do not need leaps 😂

@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire

7 ай бұрын

@@mrdhong2143 You see my point though right? Their passives are overly simple in this day and age, while they each have _2_ basic attack steroids… One of those steroids could easily be collapsed into their passive to some degree while they gain a new ability to spice things up.

What does DR mean?

@Inters3ct

7 ай бұрын

Diminishing returns. In this case in reference to CC. I have vids that go more in depth but in short: When hit by a hard CC, you gain a buff that reduces future hard CC durations on you for 15s.

Make bastet pounce let you pounce a second time if you hit a god with it

Solid list

I must say you started talking about rat, then Ravan, and you got to ravan i was smiling. I used to watch a bunch of smite, i thought his release kit was cool i didn’t see the trash, and now that i’ve come back and started playing Awilix and Cthulhu, im buying ravan next, and i was choking on a little man-tear. Ravana is the punchiest.

Every time i play king arthur the other team has at least one god that completely shuts down his combos and sonce combos are his whole thing i bascially am a walking joke for the majority of the game.

This gods design is something I struggle with personally but you put at best and I think you're wrong 😢

Tiamat S (:. C and D are pretty much 100% correct no argument needs to be had there

Xbal being in A is wild to me tbh…also MLF in S is just a no from me dawg

My 3 favorite gods to play are all in D teir lol. Wonder what that says about me :p

If Anubis isn't in S, I'm never watching him again. Only thing I'll say

Im sorry but king arthur is a face rolling god i dont care what you say just because he can cancle a dash with his cripple or interrupt an ability with your knock up /stun he is literally only good when the items he uses are like blue stone or old glad shield/ tank damage proc items are good and the best way to play him is to spam your abilities in lane until you win 😂

Awilix is 100% not a good god design. Its a rundown kit that hard counters any movement ability and she has bugged hitboxes for most of her abilities. Most of the gods in the S-tier are not S-Tier and have either overdesigned or bloated kits.

Odin ❤

did only i watch this through the whole thing?

Old Pers had the best kit, nowadays is so boring.

I would say Morgan Le Fay is a terrible design lol, She feels like Nox, you use your 3 abilitys in the same order every time and ult when dived or to finish someone off. That is quite literally it lol. It's not like her 1 is anything unique because theres no reason to use any circle other than the fear, and because of that her passive is often quite useless as well. Just because she's op doesn't make her kit design well made at all

Oh I thought this was a visual design tier list and I got FURIOUS that Arachne and Nyx were at the bottom. Freya can stay there tho. Queen of Valkyries and she looks like an OF cosplay, no thanks.

@Inters3ct

7 ай бұрын

Lol, yeah purely on kits. I really love Nox visually and personality wise

Aww man I wish this had timestamps lol.

Persephone was my favorite God then they ruined her.

Ibr this needs 2 more tiers. D tier doesnt begin to describe arachne compared to freya and nox. Arachne is in a whole different tier of trash design. Nox 3 is fun and so is freya whoop arachne has no redeeming qualities. Nu wa persephone Charybdis bakasura are all just as bad as actually imo they are significantly worse but Imo Arachne anubis are like 3 tiers below every other god in the. Edit: Oh i forgot fucking martichoras that is actually a design almost as bad as anubis and arachne. Anubis is a trash can that does 2.5x the damage necessary and is still a trash can because his whole kit is based around a single target cc "skillshot" im gold and anubis still gets stomped consistently with minimal teamplay because late game the best he can do is trade 1 for 1. Arachne has 2 stims, pve, and an escape ult... Nuf said Martichoras has maybe the most broken ult in the game. It does too much everything. Its literally anhur ult but more effective damage and a built in self banish+ easier to hit and you can see over walls

Athena not S-tier she just a brain dead taunt bot. Only thing that saves her is the ult

*Sees my fav assassin in c tier, triggered* fr though im good with the placement for these except thor and susano. I hate those 2 more than any other gods.

Without Hypercarries, Smite sucks. League balances hypercarries better than Smite, Smite Devs have no conviction. This also applies to Smites poor item system balance. Theres a lot of bias here for just gods you personally dont like lol. KA is a piss skill design, just faceroll your way to success, the only thing requiring to actually hit is your ult. (He is literally the mirror of Garen on League, another low effort high reward character/faceroll).