32:50 if it is allowed, here's a video of a start of an EMD SD60 with 29 breakers/switches being flipped in the panel, plus knife switch, plus two at the control stand. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIGjq7JxYtGcmpM.html&ab_channel=D-LuxProductions

@Hyce777

5 ай бұрын

Dope! Yeah, that's the thing. Cheers :)

@peregrina7701

5 ай бұрын

This was very neat, thanks for sharing (I'm going to think about this the next time the lawn tractor balks) :)

This small "locomotive" is based on a real thing - LEW EL 16 built in former Eastern Germany. Such vehicles are used to pull locomotives or single train cars in workshops, train sheds or warehouses.

@Daniel-tf9fz

5 ай бұрын

Plus they didn't acctually had usual buffers, more like litte plates. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/LEW_EL_16

@kilobytederg

5 ай бұрын

Coincidentally exactly what I used it for when I first got it. (Pulling locomotives to the service shed)

@TheOneTrueDragonKing

5 ай бұрын

@@kilobytederg So it's basically the train equivalent of an airplane tug. Towing dead locomotives around the shop complex when their engines aren't running.

@savannahhirano

5 ай бұрын

The Long Island Railroad had their own loco that was extremely similar, LIRR #320 and #322, built by Baldwin.

@burgertanker7970

5 ай бұрын

And there's me, who first used it to do 700t of shunting in the rain lol

To Hyce, ES&D CDO Fees and fines cost are at the end of your shift is 1,307,520.47 dollars. We appreciate it if you pay your copay of 360,257 dollars. Please pay off your fees and fines. Derail Valley Debt Collector, John Doe

@user-lj2sc8hy3l

5 ай бұрын

who invited soldier to railroading ? DONT LET HIM NEAR THE STEAM ENGINES IF HE GETS A SHOVEL ITS ALL OVER

@Hyce777

5 ай бұрын

I'm working on it! :D

@112-DavidL

5 ай бұрын

@@Hyce777 man John Doe is quick :D normally debt collectors start demanding payment until 90+ days after you haven't paid your bill to the debitor and the debitor isn't supposed to send you to collections until 60+ days after the final notice 🤣

@imakething

5 ай бұрын

That’s not Soldier, soldier’s JANE Doe, not John Doe

@Johndoe-jd

5 ай бұрын

@@112-DavidL I wait two episodes or when he makes a payment. The next episodes it the warnings and repossessing things

50:00 “It’s not pegging the needle and blowing up my entire life instantaneously.” _Opening bars of_ Smells Like Kenosha _immediately begin to play_

23:20: He's just standing here talking! What in the possible heck could "Smells Like Kenosha" be playing for? 50 seconds later: doot boop.

@ypoora1

5 ай бұрын

I was expecting some horrible idea that messed up his whole train before he even left but no... Doot boop.

@onecleangti

5 ай бұрын

LOL doot boop. brilliant

@steeljawX

5 ай бұрын

I was going to say, "He's staring at the only thing that could possibly derail, and it's not moving. The only other means of derailing if it's not moving is some kind of big boom........Did Hyce leave something on and that thing's gonna blow or is there some other train he forgot that's coming in hot? I'm confused." I guess it's even more impressive he Smelled Like Kenosha doing a Doot Boop by hand (cart).

@Hyce777

5 ай бұрын

Gotta subvert your expectations somehow

@CrimSkies

5 ай бұрын

I'd argue the Kenosha was for the epiphany that he didn't have the Passenger License yet.

"Do you want a realisic fuse/breaker box?" Yes, yes I do, gimme switches!

i had a job way back that had me grinding the crankshafts of CN trains here in canada. The only thing i remember is they were 8 cylinder shafts, that were split in 2 pcs. I think they would come in at a million KM's and we would test them to make sure they had no cracks. We would grind them round, test again, chrome them (or some kinda electrolysis plating they told me was chrome), grind back to round and if they pass, ship them back out. The machine I used was an old WW1 or 2, unit that sat for 50ish years before I got to use it. sadly i screwed up that sweet job with my personal life.

Since the DE6 has had its electricals revised to be more durable, you absolutely need to check the DE2 next and do experiments. If there's consistency there, AltFuture did the epic thing. **54 minutes into the video** Hey remember that part where you said to play polka with your train? Yeah about that...

@roadtrain_

5 ай бұрын

The DE2 had it's load rating upped. So it should be a lot better now.

Some notes on the "Little Dute" 1. It cannot exceed 35-40 on its own power. 2. It will break if you get it going over 50-60. 3. It is great for shunting. It accelerates slowly, but has a really good compressor so you will have no problem stopping and starting. 4. It is great for splitting multiple jobs hauled by one train without having to divert course and shunt hundreds of extra tons. 5. It is NOT good for hauling things between stations. You will NEVER make time bonus and you will continually slow down because voltage decreases with battery power, meaning you get slower the longer you run it. It also has no grip, so even an 0.7 grade will cause make it stop with a 200 ton train.

@bavarianbanshee

5 ай бұрын

I refute point 5. I've been doing way too much hauling between stations with it, and as long as you manage your time well, you can absolutely still make bonus time with it.

@levibruner7553

5 ай бұрын

@@bavarianbanshee Do you have all the licenses? The more licenses you have, the shorter the time bonus. 30 kph is way to slow for getting almost anywhere within time bonus when you have all the licenses.

hyce, you can increase and decrease the throttle using t and g keys and timing the keys right with the hand car can get you some insane speed

@lechking941

5 ай бұрын

tbh i have gotten that fucker to proably 200+ going form mil base to the east iron it was fucking NUTS going THAT FAST.

@Hyce777

5 ай бұрын

Oooooooooooh....

@thomasn3071

5 ай бұрын

@@lechking941 and here I was being proud of myself for just derailing it in the first place

@mistergamerguy

2 ай бұрын

I use the scroll wheel for the hand car, I don't know how fast I can get it to go but that thing is a road runner lol

I was playing DV when this released. I was planing on getting water and coal for my 0-6-0 while at the Steel Mill but I passed the switch. Right as I passed the switch I realized that I had no water in the glass and Cthulhu’ed blocking the switch with an 8-Car train. The BE-2 would have been very useful in that situation but instead I had to derail a DE-2 and rerail it in front of 0-6-0.

Speaking of transition, Zeibach clarified that the DE6 is set to use the same electrical sequence as the SD18 (closest non-export model) which has one transition from 2 groups of 3 motors in series to 3 groups of 2 motors in series, then as speed increases has two steps of field shunting. Field shunting doesn’t kill the amps totally, but you can notice a sudden increase in amps due to field shunting reducing the back EMF (less voltage = more current). The -2s dropped field shunting entirely but some other old locomotives used a lot of steps of field shunting to fine tune the volt-amp curve to within the (really crappy) generator limits. Something like the SD24 tries to squeeze out so much power of its relatively small generator that it has two steps of transition, each of which has up to 6 field shunts…yeah maybe they should have invented a bigger generator for that thing.

@Hyce777

5 ай бұрын

Oh wow! That's super cool. Zeibach is a treasure. Thank you for teaching me!

@LordPhobos6502

5 ай бұрын

Tram driver here, so... much smaller vehicles. On a 4 motor tram, the motors start as 2 motors in series (2 groups of), then steps into parallel, where all motors are parallel to eachother. We had a couple of experimental cars that had weakfield notches after that, but they were never rolled out past the prototypes.

The be-2 is relatively common in Germany and is often used to shunt onto the turntable, which is why it is so short that it fits on it together with the locomotive Love the Video Mode of IT pleas LG Luis

I can see the next race with kan already in front of me "we transported coal from the mine to the steelmine, entirely with battery powered locos"

To go fast you don't give it the beans, you give it one singular bean.

1:00:15 I've been having that issue with booklets and reports. They do print, they just don't eject. Crouch and look up the slot and you can grab them.

"Notch 1 still governs to 200" was a thing in Simulator since sometime before B98 and I've always had fun with it, feels like my Subaru inexplicably getting to like 8mph with the idle creep instead of 4 or so

I think the BE-2’s best use case is probably hauling dead power into roundhouses for manual servicing. But I also found it useful for doing quick switching jobs at the machine factory military base because I could summon it and didn’t have to run over to the roundhouse to get a locomotive. I could also see it being useful if you’re pulling a very heavy train over a hill and it’s just starting to bog down and you need just a tiny little bit more power.

Hey babe stop what your doing the new hyce derail valley video juat dropped!

@NSandBNSFrailfanProductions

5 ай бұрын

Ayo what?

@Shadowtiger2564

5 ай бұрын

@@NSandBNSFrailfanProductions sh1tposting

@NSandBNSFrailfanProductions

5 ай бұрын

Oh lol

@southern207hobbies

5 ай бұрын

It would be cool to have a flat to transport the be2

@McFly1955

5 ай бұрын

One of us railfans having a romantic partner is crazy 😢

I bet that new locomotive will be very useful when moving locomotives on and off turntables.

Hyce standing there looking at train explaining Cylinder size. Kenosha starts playing. “What did you do Hyce….?”

I really appreciate that they're building up their simulations piece by piece. As they pointed out, this is the first all electric loco in the game, so it's laying the groundwork for main line electrics to be coming in future updates and gives a bit of a taste for them with something neat and new to play with now that fills an interesting niche.

Hyce you yanked the train around and derailed. Ive done it coming down that grade before. Both slack induced and stringlining. You have to keep it stretched or bunched up coming down that grade with a long train.

I can't speak directly about how train traction motors are setup, I can speak to motors in general: Motors have remarkable starting torque, but that is a result of the very significant starting current. Running them in series dramatically reduces the chance of overcurrent when starting. While it technically reduces torque, it is torque that actually useful since you aren't popping breakers or overheating the motor nearly as easily. It is often used for starting very large motors in the industrial world. (Everything from elevators, chillers, rock crushers, even sometimes conveyor belts) VFDs are starting to remove the need for it though.

the handcar was requestable (free and deleteable for free) before , you just had to spend 30k to get the key at food factory...lil doot reppaced it (and made me have to buy the key again lol)

i think im going to start a new career world for this update. I want to appreciate the trains for what they are by having to go through all of them again.

24:00 love how the light instantly went out as soon as it hit :D

i am reaching my limit of holding off to buy DV watching you and all the updates is enticing more and more. plus its VR Supported, my favorite.

@TheRealComradeOtis

5 ай бұрын

I had no interest in trains until I started watching Hyce's caboose video around Thanksgiving. Derail Valley has already hit my top played games on steam because of that. Jump on it!

@paulnieuwkamp8067

5 ай бұрын

VR Supported?!? That's a bit of a misnomer; it should be Pancake Supported. It's a VR game that also works in pancake mode :)

@josiahpaez4601

5 ай бұрын

This is one of my favorite VR games, but it was hard for me to recommend to others since it's so resource heavy and rarely maintained 90 fps which caused lots of hitching and stuttering. But this update has improved things so much it's almost perfectly fluid now. I can now recommend it! Absolutely worth the asking price and there's enough there that it can be considered a "finished" game. So glad they continue to develop for it, every update is welcome and exciting!

The little doot reminds me in its setup of a Crown-manufactured zero-turn forklift. It's used in tight spaces so you need to look everywhere to not hit anything, and trust me, it's much easier to stand sideways at the controls than to have to crane your neck to see behind you. Also the DE6 sounds just like the diesel locomotives I've listened to while waiting at grade crossings :) PS. I watched most of this on my breaks from work and break ended at 52:46 - with Kenosha winding up behind a nice chat about diesels - I had to wait until I got home for the bang!! Thanks for the fun!

So finally the hand powered car is free to’ spown and the speed is regulable wit the mouse central weel

There's a cutaway v8 EMD 567 at the Newport railway museum in Melbourne, the cylinders are big enough that I'm pretty sure I could fit my head in the chamber if I wanted to. They really are insanely huge.

29:30 one of the gas compressors we have at a nearby location is driven by a natural gas powered CAT 3612 engine. Near 5000 hp and near 31,000 lb-ft of torque. Its two turbos, one for each bank, had to be replaced about a year and a half ago to the tune of about $114k for both the turbos, not counting the labor for removal of old and installation of new. Not quite the same as what you are talking about, but in a similar cost range.

You always gotta appreciate a dev that adds new free content with an update!

BTW Hyce, the BE-2 is a absolute tank... it is very strong. I pulled a load of scrap metal with it and it Worked!... really well surprisingly. The thing is sooooo underrated.

It's like a wheelbarrow in a mine pit to fill in pot holes, cute little bugger it is. Love the shows HYCE.

Hearing the thyristor chopper on the dootsy for the first time makes me very excited for the OLE and "you can have a railcar contain people _and_ a cab" updates. I have a Kawasaki 9000-series "K" car from Philly halfway modeled and I'm raring to go

So you can get the same effect of the engine bogging in a locomotive in your own car, the alternator in older cars are not as powerful as newer ones so in something like a 1970s Ford with electric fans when you turn them on it loads the alternator causing more resistance to turn it and bogging the engine. Great video Hyce I can’t wait for more! I’ll try to make the next livestream if I can!

@ThatGuyAt2FPS

5 ай бұрын

Sorry for the rant

@parapetcloud

5 ай бұрын

Older cars like you're describing have generators, not alternators. The difference being an alternator has electromagnets instead of permanent ones. On cars with generators if the battery is low the lights will dim slightly when you come to a stop because it can't compensate for the lower idle speeds like an alternator can.

@parapetcloud

5 ай бұрын

Side note, you can still bog a modern engine down by turning the AC on.

My great grandfather worked as a shunter with one of these tiny little things! I just had to watch after realising :)

I love those locos! Especially the cab! Nice video!

oh my gosh, they keep adding all the weird realistic locos I love!

The ES&D..."Straight to 8, its only freight!"

This is amazing! Love how ˢᵐᵃˡˡ it is :D So many creative ideas come from constraints, like ‘pistols only’. GL :)

thank u so much for what u do. U really toght me a lot about trains. Thank u so much for what u do.

What a lovely little thing that new locomotive is!

if you happen to be in florida this weekend the 17th. 10-2 pm. and near palatka come to the palatka train station. our museum will be open along with running our two large model layouts. one was homemade and carried around in a semi truck across the country putting on shows. it's one of a kind and also check out out caboose out front

MAN this reminds me of our FS "Sogliola" shunting diesel locos! I love this kind of small locos

0:00 - It's an ASF (Akkuschleppfahrzeug) used e.g. for moving equipment in shops, where there's really not much space to spare. There's one painted in the high speed train ICE paint scheme used in an ICE workshop. 18:10 - Since you're playing in Europe here, technically, you didn't end too early and you certainly didn't whistle [yeah I know, it's a horn, but operationally it serves as a whistle] too little, quite the opposite =P We rarely ever whistle for crossings (most are secured by lights or barriers; those that aren't, are often secured by oversight). Well, DV is set in a fictional post-yugoslavic country setting, I think there's more non-technically secured crossings with whistling there from what I know, but still. Usually you do one or rarely two 'toots' of some two to four seconds. 24:25 - Soooo. Was the Kenosha for the handcar - or for not having the license? xD 36:10 - Wow that's a whacky setup. Why would one consider this a good idea? It's not like you save a ton of stuff by not having an electric motor on the compressor in a locomotive that is full of electric motors anyways ^^' 48:20 - That would have been the PERFECT moment to find out they had modelled breaking couplers, if they had =P 53:40 - Oh do you mean there's a reason why speed limits are valid for the whole train and not just the loco? 🤔😂 56:20 - I don't drive anything with commutator motors, never have (well, in training, but not under my own responsibility), so that bit of knowledge went a bit lost for me; but over here there's a certain amount of seconds how long you're allowed to have power applied without moving, or to put it in other words, you need to get moving within X seconds (I just forgot the exact number). Reason being you risk un-soldering the individual commutator segments. I'll presume there's an anologue rule on your railways, too? 58:30 - "Not sure how we did that" well - effectively, I'd say. =P 59:35 - Aaaaaand handbrake in the middle. 🥴

@Hyce777

4 ай бұрын

It's so fun to hear the differences. Not blowing for a crossing feels wrong, lol. Kenosha was for the handcar, for funsies. Yes, yes there is a reason you're supposed to obey the speed for the whole train... lol! I'm not sure what the exact rule is on analog things re: older diesel power over here. I wouldn't be surprised if there is though.

Love you hyce best youtuber ever!

Watching this is so much more preferable than going to work

This video made me launch DV and haul 1200t of steel rails, it's so relaxing and chill with the new sounds (as long as kenosha isn't playing)

They did update the Dynamics of the DE6. It’s less effective above 35km/h

@Hyce777

5 ай бұрын

Interesting! That makes sense.

Man I can't wait to cruise around in that little doot in VR

The handcar has always been request able and free. I used it all the time. It is very good for short or long range movement without a locomotive. You just had to unlock it.

Just letting you know, you teleport further away if you look slightly higher. Will save you a lot of button presses

Looking like a miniger train that puts the carts in order and takes them to another location in order.

Fun fact: If you clear cars from a job that you've failed for any reason, it is automatically removed from that job. All those good oil cars from the second job could have been kept after turning in the first job to get enough money to rerail and clear.

Well that fixes my main issue with shunting jobs. Might actually go put of my way to do them now lol

24:00 I've been HAD! Always nervous when I smell that smell

I agree that the loco has just enough switches and everything for it. Maybe a couple more wouldn't hurt. Just doesn't need the Train Sim World aspect of it where you need to flip 30 breakers to start the loco. It's nice to go jump in loco flip a couple of switches, run back open the door and start it. Then do mach 10 through the yard.

Is there a way to throw the little thing in a “neutral” per say and drag it along with your train without blowing it up? It’d be nice to have a switcher to-go.

When your backpack identifies as a loco.

finishing a delivery of broken cars can allow you to recoup some of the losses from destroying them.

the shunter is so precious

If it pulls well, I reckon it would be perfect for yard shunting.

From looking at this for 5sec this looks like a VR shunters dream, being able to actually drive in reverse lol

The unicycle of the train world

Yooo, another hyce video! At 10:24 AM!? today's gonna be a good day!

The BE-2 reminds me of the grain elevator near to where I grew up. They had a "tracknobile" (I believe that was the brand) that was set similar running on the rails. But, it also had a set of truck axles that were offset 90 degrees from the rail. Detroit powered, I assume hydraulically driven??

Congrats seeing the newest updates, specifically the 'load paper in the printer sim' so you get your report

Would love to see a full video of this engine

20:09 Niiice collection 😑👌 23:14 *Edit* Nice Livery 😏👉 Good Color Choice

Yeah the dynos suck now and I'm baffled why they did that, because you've always said that IRL it's like "why touch the air when you have dynos"

I think you'll have to buy the slug again to play with it since it became ownable and lost invincibility.

"The BEST UPDATE for a train game in a long time!" and RO just got a huge update yesterday

@Hyce777

5 ай бұрын

yeah but that's still a trash fire

@admiraladriel8781

5 ай бұрын

What's RO?

@Damnedfish.

5 ай бұрын

@@admiraladriel8781 Shh, *Railroads Online*, but we don't use those words around here

@kaesa3_

5 ай бұрын

​@@Hyce777 this couldn't be more true. and the multiplayer community has become unusually toxic.. it's quite unfortunate.

all hail the locomotive catalog!

your parralel/series traction motor stuff, you probably meant Delta and Star. Delta puts max voltage over a 3 phase Motors Coils whilst Star puts them kinda in series, dropping the voltage per coil and thus limiting current

I've been using the BE2 so much. And for things I definitely shouldn't. Lol It's so great.

There are some relays that trip at about 40 and 60 kph that cause the load to change, but not the full load drop as far as I've seen.

So you can over rev traction motors now? I think I might have done that already because I was pulling the micro shunter above 50 km/h and I saw an electrical explosion come from that shunter. Thankfully I brought it to a locomotive workshop to get it fixed. I will have to watch my speed when pulling or using it.

Its adorable little loco

you know when ever you are looking for your train that you are going to deliver, instead of looking for the number of the railcars you could look for which track they're on.

we need some es&d and es&dt style coaches lol

*is interested in electrical detail* nice! * hears kenosha* oooh what 😮

I always wondered what the CN trains star wars sound was I thought it was some strange turbo but it's the compressor. It's quite a loud sound too.

@Hyce , I jokingly wonder how many passengers in that waiting train proceeded to NOPE right out of there when they saw the livery on the DE-6 that turned up? Running with the joke - looks like all of them legged it.

could you use the little be2 as an extra brake compressor for long trains? Like put it at the end of a train, switch on and drive?

Hyce with a handcart and a BE-2: "Now kith"

I'm a crazy train person, but I have a memory like a goldfish. That catalog is B-E-A-Yootiful!

@lechking941

5 ай бұрын

hm, ya can proably remember a week ago if it was funny enough but otherwise for got everything between then and current. ya even if ya got a hella good memory the catalogs useful

I love your content

I'm watching this instead of doing my school work

Also fun thing in some station the hitbox is broken and you can interact with the couch through the wall

14:39 63,000.00 Dollar Bonus for *on-time* Idk Hyce, that Train is Tineeeey

Have you considered SimRail? I know its not your cup of tea, but the electric engines are great to operate (and the sounds!). And have you ever been in Wolsztyn (Poland). Biggest operating steam engine house in Europe. Some locomotives drive from time to time to this day. They also have Pm-36 2 locomotive (Beautiful Helena) which indeed is a beauty.

Commenting mid watch. That moment when backing onto a passenger train and Kenosha starts…. Welcome aboard the ES&D folks.

It's nice for shunting and short trips

If Altfuture was a farming company they would be outstanding in their field.

Satiric should make a 2-0-2 or 4-0-4 that can actually move but wont make any sounds, that'd be hilarious and cool.

@ThatGuyAt2FPS

5 ай бұрын

Or maybe a 2-2-2-2-2-2

When I saw this in my VR headset when I played DV yesterday, I was like “So the eco has gone up a bit last I played”

Wait, where did episodes 28 and 29 go???? Are they the stream?

I would say that a diesel engine compressor looks like a third of a radial engine.

@Hyce777

5 ай бұрын

That's a better way to explain that!