Nothing against anyone who likes the G, but I felt is was criminal that the only time we get to see the Enterprise F is when she is being decommissioned. It could be my bias, but the Odyssey is far and away the better looking and equipped than the G

@stars9084

Ай бұрын

My suspicion is that they did this as a gesture of respect to Star Trek Online who had the Odyssey class designed and have been making stories for the Enterprise-F for over a decade

@CuriousMind477

Ай бұрын

@@stars9084 Oh, I'm sure they did. I just think the Enterprise G is fugly

@stars9084

Ай бұрын

@@CuriousMind477 She grew on me over the season but she's still definitely not my favorite

@CuriousMind477

Ай бұрын

@@stars9084 She would likely not bother me as much of she wasn't next to the Odyssey

@stars9084

Ай бұрын

@@CuriousMind477 Lol I get that. Odyssey was an impressive next step after the Sovereign

We didn't get to see enough of her just like the sovereign class

@timesthree5757

Ай бұрын

We saw too much.

@navysealinguardiantank2679

17 күн бұрын

​@@timesthree5757how so?

It's a shame a series wasn't made using the Enterprise F as the hero ship.

@calebstuart1335

Ай бұрын

AFAIK the timeline would add up for it to appear in hypothetical future seasons of Prodigy should Netflix decide to continue the show, so hope is not entirely lost

@t.800XR

Ай бұрын

Progressiveness was startet with Roddenberry all along a long time ago. So stop bending his will to spread hate with it. If you cry because Star Trek is "too progressive" then you've clearly never understood the Message Gene himself wanted to relay​@user-rk1zi2xn1j

@jimskywaker4345

Ай бұрын

@@user-qf1bb7nm8s even though the Titan-A is also entirely designed off of a fan ship.

@TheOneTrueDragonKing

Ай бұрын

@@user-qf1bb7nm8s And even worse, having to PAY the guy who created it royalties for every. single. episode! The guy who created the Odyssey-class could be the next Matt Jeffries, and Kurtzman couldn't have that.

@marcellinma6169

Ай бұрын

@user-rk1zi2xn1j The producers are a bunch of dirty human supremist for taking away the only Federation flagship not captained by a human.

No matter what, the Odyssey is a beautiful ship, and a worthy Enterprise.

You know what? That's one beautiful ship. This is honestly what I hoped the Galaxy class would have looked like back when TNG first aired. She's got sleek, flowing lines. Like a classic (Italian) sports car. And it makes her look a lot smaller than she is. Like she's in motion standing still. It's a toss-up for me between the relatively sleek brutality of the Excelsior class and this one for my favourite Star Trek ships. To me, both are the most gorgeous of their respective era's.

@icedreamer9629

Ай бұрын

I desperately want a series set on board an Odyssey Class. It's glorious, like a natural evolution of the Sovereign. I also want to see the successor to it in the 2450s, which would be the same sort of shape and size, but with the dish moved back slightly and the nacelles lengthened and moved forward slightly such that the two merge like a horseshoe crab, with the red bits melded into the top of the dish, and fixing the number 1 weakness of starfleet vessels - the nacelle pylons.

@draigygoch

Ай бұрын

The producers screwed up making a 'neo' constitution AGAIN

@YDKJ07

Ай бұрын

​@@icedreamer9629that would the Yorktown variant.

@Valhan177

Ай бұрын

@@icedreamer9629 This! A next, next generation aboard one of these please. The destruction of romulus has potential for interesting drama, and just new directions in distant systems.

@timesthree5757

Ай бұрын

It ugly stop.

Based on how small the Enterprise-F's bridge we see in Picard is, I'm wondering if it was actually the battle bridge. If I recall, the justification for the F's retirement was that it had suffered significant internal damage on it's last mission, perhaps this included the main bridge?

@Captain11890

Ай бұрын

Best in-universe description of why we don’t have that beautiful new bridge on the small screen.

I love the Odyssey so much, I really hope they bring it back

@timesthree5757

Ай бұрын

No.

@user-vc2up9ys6v

25 күн бұрын

​@@timesthree5757 yes

@timesthree5757

25 күн бұрын

@@user-vc2up9ys6v no

Love the Odyssey-Class. Glad to see it canonized. Currently running a Sojourner Operations Star Cruiser variant in STO on my main. Looks like a Odyssey and a Galaxy smashed together and then someone stuck Ambassador-style Nacelles on it. Got it running an Beam loadout! It's a Warbird killer in a boardside, and can tank like a SoB too! Love it!

@kaitlyn__L

Ай бұрын

Good old beam boats

Picard did the F dirty. just like they did the Titan-A

@CaptainRC1

Ай бұрын

That's why I prefer the Online universe. They did the E-F much better justice.

@travisbishop782

Ай бұрын

Picard did a lot of things dirty.

@michaelmacleod6517

Ай бұрын

Luckily Picard isn't cannon. Or won't be for much longer.

@travisbishop782

Ай бұрын

@@michaelmacleod6517 what do you mean?

@michaelmacleod6517

Ай бұрын

@travisbishop782 Star Trek as a property might get sold to a different studio. So thankfully Discovery and Picard might not be cannon much longer.

I never really comprehended how big the Odyssey class is, but checking lengths and comparison charts it actually dwarfs the Galaxy class, which is kinda insane.

Rick thank you because this is what I was looking for. Many sources of cannon and non cannon are unable to provide the information on for example armaments' and point defense where they are etc. so far I have not watched anyone else who went in depth with as much cannon as possible. Thank you is what I am trying to say.

@DeaconBlues117

Ай бұрын

My canon is that I never mount cannon on this ship. It has the turning radius of a small moon, even with three RCS accelerators active.

When they had the design the next Enterprise contest for Star Trek Online, I thought the winning sketch was pretty ugly. But what the STO team did with that starting point really became a beautiful ship. I'm very sad with how it was treated in Picard S3. And then succeeded by the horrible mess of how they justified the creation of an Enterprise G.

@ffnbbq

Ай бұрын

Which is why I think the ship is more Cryptic's design than the competition winner. Incidentally, Cryptic conspicuously did not mention that guy when announcing the Odyssey/F's debut in Picard (possibly due to that guy's caustic political views), until some idiot went around social media and reddit chastising Cryptic for not thanking "the REAL designer". Cryptic did make a variant based on the competition design, and man is it ugly.

@kaitlyn__L

Ай бұрын

@@ffnbbqI didn’t know he had caustic views… but yeah, I always thought they’d _heavily_ massaged that winning sketch.

@Dracounguis

Ай бұрын

Yeah really just the basic shape and the two necks were what probably they liked in the sketch. And submitting an entry usually means the creator forfeits all claims to it. So it is Cryptic's legally and don't have to mention the contest winner at all.

@senatuspopulusqueromanus2082

Ай бұрын

It never became better, still looks like ass, I don't see why people like it so much

CI: "It's a big ship." Universe-class Enterprise-J: *Ahem.*

I like that the F is the best of the Galaxy and the best of the E.

@nafnaf0

Ай бұрын

I don't think it looks very good though. The E was awesome looking, and the D was really classic. The D and E were the best ever IMO

@mythicallegendary3992

Ай бұрын

@@nafnaf0interesting, I actually really like the look. It reminds me of the size of the D with the same exploration capacity, and the aggressive sleekness of the E

Not gonna lie, this ship and its variants, has become my new favorite in the entirety of Star Trek lore, hands down. Lots of them I love and enjoy, but this is by far my #1 choice. Thanks for the informational video, Rick! Love your channel!!

I have this ship in STO and it was the go-to back when it came out and for a long long time afterwards.

@TheNoiseySpectator

Ай бұрын

How would it do as a generational ship? Would it be good for a mission between galaxies that would last for dozens or even hundreds of years?

@enterprisethesylveon5787

Ай бұрын

Still is a go to if you get the Terran Lexington!

@HrabCOrp

Ай бұрын

​@@TheNoiseySpectator I believe the Odyssey class is not fully self-sustaining for that. It still needs to visit Starbases from time to time. It wouldn't be like Voyager in the Delta Quadrant because the space between galaxies is empty. For intergalactic multigenerational travel, you have something like the Universe class from the 26th Century, IMO. It's 3219m long, like a small mobile city in space. Potentially, with the full benefits of one and a whole ecosystem inside. Thus, no cramped corridors of your typical starship. That's better for mental health in the long run. And makes it easier to travel for centuries.

@MrMikellsof88

Ай бұрын

@@enterprisethesylveon5787 Ugh but then you've got that dorky weapons pod sticking out of her back. Doesn't look very appealing.

@enterprisethesylveon5787

Ай бұрын

@@MrMikellsof88 It unlocks the Starfleet Parts as well as the Terran Yorktown Class parts, it's what I do, I use the Yorktown Terran Hull and the Starfleet parts, there 'sno big red markings like on the saucer, so it's the next best thing.

I would like to see this ship used as a hero ship in a show set some years after the end of Picard with a updated version going on a extreme duration exploration and research cruise

An iconic ship, with one of tue most unique legacies in the franchise. Shame they kinda neutered the Enterprise F lore, but hey alternate timelines and stuff with STO and the lot. Loved her there and loved her in Picard all the same.

Hoping you get to a dedicated breakdown for the Constitution III, Duderstadt, and Echelon classes eventually 👍 Odyssey class is definitely impressive, but my all time favorite is still the Sovereign class.

Very good ship breakdown. I think one of your best yet.

A video on my favorite ship for my birthday? Thank you so much!

Looking at the eaglemoss model of the Enterprise F on my shelf as I watch this, thanks for the video :D

Yay!! I’ve been waiting for a new revision of this breakdown. Love the Odyssey class!

I love the production value for this episode. It shows how much you love this ship. Probably my current favorite, cus I friggin love the Oddy too. Also, rubber duckie room is on deck 4 on my ship, or is it?

I hope we get to see this class on-screen again one day.

13:07 OK, I was NOT expecting the saucer separation to go like that. I figured the saucer just detached from the two small pylons connecting it to the rest of the hull instead of leaving behind a sliver of its bottommost section.

The first km+ ship in Starfleet.

@DocWolph

Ай бұрын

The Vengeance. But that is NOT the normal continuity.

@warmstrong5612

Ай бұрын

There are Star Wars style "super carriers" that make the Connie Refit look like a worker bee. They're just not mentioned outside the books.

@NeoTechni

Ай бұрын

km+?

@SchneeflockeMonsoon

Ай бұрын

@@NeoTechni Longer than 1000 m.

@mystyle_jm8997

10 күн бұрын

Let me guess... The Odyssey will be on par with Venator-class Star Destroyer in terms of size right?

I am a fan of the Sovereign, But it's good to see That starfleet .Learnt their lesson with the Galaxy that they gave this ship a Gunship It can deploy at a moment's notice. Overall not a bad ship 👌

Such a lovely ship... And a biggun'! Great video. Great subtitles. Thanks for it!

I can’t wait to see you cover The Dervish class. You got me hooked on that ship and I still use it. The rear turret has saved me more than once.

Lovely ship and delightful to hear such a thorough briefing on her wealth of innovations.

Great video, love the Odyssey class.

This a beautiful in-depth look. For God's sake let's see a TV show around the Enterprise F. I know, 'but Star Trek Legacy!'. I agree! But the F is an absolute beauty - can we not have seperate TV shows on both the F and the G? Please?

Been looking forward to this one.

I remember receiving an Odyssey when it first came out in STO. The account with it got lost but the Odyssey is probably my favorite STO creates ships.

I love the look of this class. It's sleek, deadly, and can be utilized in various situations/scenarios.

That bridge variant shown briefly at 13:40 pays homage to TOS and TNG by combining elements of both the original Enterprise's bridge (the front), and that of the Galaxy class (the rear).

My favorite ship, i played the hell out of this ship online, it got me through so many mirror universe incursions. I love you my USS Draconomicron!

The Lexington is a bahemoth and is my ship of choice. For all my Starfleet characters

Thanks for the video. It was very informative. 😊

This is a genuinely gorgeous ship!!!

We need more of this lovely ship in a series or movie with this ship we should have had this as the main hero ship in Picard

thank you certifiably ingame, i love this video, and i love the odyssey!!

This is my second favorite ship, closely following behind my favorite Akira-class. While its the design aesthetic, carrier capability, and torpedo launcher count that attracts me to the Akira, almost everything about the Odyssey is just a big YES for me. And now that we have a proper internal schematic (though not deck-by-deck), it is on par with my favorite. Always gives me more appreciation for a ship to know the actual details about its design and what it has. And the bridge is absoLUTELY gorgeous, it fits the whole Star Trek aesthetic to a T, while being unique from any other hero bridge we've seen. On a side note, my 3rd place ship/s are the original Dyson ships, with that marble white hull and dark grey lines that sometimes had purple lights. Absolutely love them, they maintain a trekkie look, while being alien in origin. Love the whole idea of their use of different technology too, such as the proton weaponry, gravimetric torpedoes, protonic metaphasic shielding, and so on. Plus, the science destroyers could transform slightly to armor some weakspots and the secondary deflector, and reveal heavy proton cannons. And the Obelisk Carrier? love the whole idea of a carrier that mass-fabricates swarmer drones.

Even though the F was decommissioned early? I doubt that it’s the last we’ll see of her, she’s slated to join her predecessors at Athan Prime, and, I would like to think, will probably be there until she’s called again in 2410, one year after the Enterprise-G is sacrificed to prevent an Undine invasion, when she’s possibly recommissioned for one last cheer, and one last battle through time itself. I think she would win the day but be critically damaged due to her handicap, But if that does happen? Something tells me she’d partake in similar origins to her Successor’s original predecessor, and would be stripped down and rebuilt from the frame up, into the Yorktown-Class Enterprise-H.

I really want to see it on screen more than what we saw in Picard

Thanks for this video! The Odyssey class is more impressive than I thought. With all the new ship classes (Odyssey, Neo-Constitution, Sagan, Inquiry, Pathfinder, Reliant, Excelsior II...) , it would be really interesting to see their sizes compared to each other and to the original hero ships. 🙂🖖

Pretty slick and smooth from the side.

Nicely Done!

I love the scope of this analysis. I can tell you like this ship

Most informative.

Odyssey Class is my 3rd favourite, great design!!

congratulations sir amaizing job well done!

This is so cool 🙌

Beautifully designed ship. The low armament is confusing, though, as it was supposed to also be an anti-Borg ship capable of carrying the flag in wartime. I thought I read somewhere that it also had the updated variant of ablative armour, and something about the RCS thrusters being miniature impulse engines to keep it nimble. That might be outdated beta canon stuff, though.

@icedreamer9629

Ай бұрын

I mean, we know starfleet are a wee bit thick. This thing should have the deployable armour tech from Voyager, Beverley's transphasic shields, transphasic torpedos from Voyager, dual warp cores for redundancies, multiple core shield generators for rotating recharge, and so much more. They should have surveillance cameras everywhere, and security routines which lock on to any unknown DNA and beam it into the buffer. Instead, they go for BS like saucer separation and MVAM. Gimmicks. Very silly. "Captain, the - are boarding us!" "Computer, defence mode 6" "bssshp" "Intruders neutralised and ready to be beamed one at a time to the brig" 😂😂

@Shapes_Quality_Control

Ай бұрын

Remember that these are phaser strips as opposed to the traditional banks and given their placement given the Odyssey 360 degree phaser beam coverage. That being said it should be able to boast more torpedo tubes. That seems a bit of an oversight considering this was built in response to the Scimitar and Negh’Var.

@sillypuppy5940

Ай бұрын

@@icedreamer9629 Still no warp capability on the detachable saucer section. Might as well have it powered by oars.

@auricstorm

Ай бұрын

Not necessarily (low armament=bad Borg) We know from the Destiny Trilogy that SF policy on anti-borg weapon/tactics is closer to "sniper rifle" rather than "machine gun" Now while it could be argued that the more tubes firing at once, the quicker Borg shields would be overwhelmed... But it also increases the risk that if your weapon (say, a transphasic torpedo with variable subspace geometry) isn't powerful enough to 1-shot KO then the more times you fire it the greater chance the Borg will adapt to it, so you only really "need" 2 or 3 tubes (1 main, 1 back up, and a spare) for those super weapons

@Shapes_Quality_Control

Ай бұрын

@@auricstorm It occurs to me after reading your post that anytime 8472 encountered the Borg they only really needed to pop off one really big beam to end the fight before it could ever really start.

One of my favorite classes

"So.... you folks have come to our planet on a mission of peaceful exploration?" "Indeed." "... and this peaceful exploration necessitated you looming over our planet in a ship visible from the ground, a ship large enough to hold the standing armies of at least two entire planets, enough arms to knock a planet out of its orbit, and enough armor to withstand getting hit by said planet, with sensors so intrusive you could probably tell me the exact moments of my last three erections, and what I was thinking about at the time?" "... look, man. Space is beautiful, but space is big, and space is mean. You'd be amazed how few space-faring powers will agree to sit down in a drum circle and talk about their feelings. It's not zero! But it's not enough."

I'd like a video on the Yorktown refit for this design thanks. This video is great btw

back when i played star trek online it was great showing up in one of these and giving all the escorts and science vessels a ship to rally around

A beautiful ship.

Awesome breakdown. This highlights why the Odyssey-class has easily become my favorite, if not top five favorite, Starfleet class. Personally, when it comes to the backstory, I prefer the STO timeline over ST: Pic. The Sovereign-class closed out the 24th century as the flagship of the fleet. The Odyssey-class was to be the new flagship for the beginning of the 25th century.

All the video's I've binge-watched of yours has finally convinced me to play STO (on XBox, cause I can't do a keyboard) and I LOVE the game. Can you tell me though, how to get the Odyssey class you use? I see different variants so I'm just wondering... Just starting though, at level 56 so getting there.

Given the massive size and wide mission profile i like the idea of using saucer separation as more of a utility than the galaxy class. i.e. leave the saucer in orbit around a central world/place of importance as an impromptu base of operations/temporary starbase, while the drive section and Aquarius continue semi independently running missions to nearby systems, feels like it would have great implications for speeding up deep space exploration, or managing inter-system operations. Staffing three ships with such a complicated setup might be weird though, at the very least requiring the officer in charge to be designated fleet captain, and possibly justifying a permanent admiralty presence on board?

Are you doing a video on 32nd century ships anytime soon? Thier designs are really something

Given that Scotty was on the design team for this ship, the look of the Aquarius craft takes on a new feel to it, given that it sort of invokes the shape of the Jenolan where they found him.

Thank you sir! It was just...

The Ulysses is my main ship in STO, it started as an Odyssey but was refit to a Lexington class

My absolute favourite! She is a beauty!

This, and its many variations in Star Trek online, are legitimately one of my favorite ship classes in all of Star Trek. If you’re curious which variant is my overall favorite, it’s probably the Yorktown.

Fantastic how ca you do this thank you. WOW!

I love your videos, and particularly when you talk about the Impulse drives. But, does the impulse drive not push the craft faster than light speed, because I seem to remember a TNG episode where the Enterprise D travels from Neptune to Earth in 9 or 19 minutes, Wesley was driving.

@craigd10

Ай бұрын

Full impulse power is .25 the speed of light, which equals 167,654,157.25 MPH. The distance between Earth and Neptune is over 2.8 billion miles, which would take over 17 hours at full impulse.

Big ships deserves more love in sci-fi, they're always the punching bags in most media. Give them what they deserve, they are suppose to be the best of the best.

Ngl I love this design

This is very nice design.

She was my Enterprise for 10 years. Gonna be hard to say goodbye.

This shit is a wonder a true sucessor to the Galaxy class. This is a character on itself. The potential is monstrous

I always envisioned this as an Explorer type starship for extreme deep space operations and colonization. Given the size and slipstream, it functions more like a mobile Starbase being able to supply small fleets and deploy outposts on new worlds.

Hooray for the shout-out of the Rubber Duckie room! lol

I'd be interested to see whatever justification could be made to explain why the F got pulled out of mothballs in 2409.

You didn't mention the extensive amount of Emergency Top Hat Storage on the bridge of the Odyssey class ships 😁

I hope we get an Ent-F show one day even if its animated we need that lore, and to show off what the Ody can do.

Is there somewhere to get full official/ish ship layouts in high resolution?

Lovely ship ❤❤

I hope we get a bit of a build up in lower decks to see some of the first

Now, if only in the new series, they can actually improve the internal lighting of the ships. Used to be the internal lighting of federation, ships were quite bright. Now they're dark and dower. You would think a virgining type 2 civilization that's mastered using anti-matter as a power source for interstellar spaceships would have the ability to (light) the inside of the spaceships.

I must agree !

So the darker portion at the front of the saucer are for ramming? Fantastic, the Picard maneuver as seen at the end of Nemesis must have played some factor in designing it in.

Honestly if you're going full on to fight the Borg. I wish they also had added a spinal particle lance. Similar to the Galaxy Class Dreadnought. Spinal weapons are so rare in starfleet and they look surprisingly good placed on the lower saucer section.

@chrisbruce5711

Ай бұрын

They get that in the Yorktown refit

My favorite design so far.

The Odyssey Class has actually grown on me over the last couple of years, thanks in large part to Picard Season 3. My only real complaints with its design are with the placement of the Bridge along with its ridiculous size (personal preference: I like the Bridge lining up evenly with the Sensor dome beneath the Saucer, and while I like certain aspect within the Bridge, I prefer it not being the size of shopping center; call me old fashioned, but as a viewer I prefer the intimate feel of the TOS/TMP/Various TNG-era bridge sizes.) My other issue is with some refit designs of the Odyssey having forward leaning pylons for the Nacelles, which makes the ship look an ugly turkey as opposed to an Elegant Bird with the swept back pylons. The only ship design that forward pylon configuration works for is the Galaxy Class. Speaking of the Galaxy Class, with the Odyssey Class being significantly larger than the Galaxy and the state of the Galaxy being in relative peace, does the Odyssey ships have civilians/families on board?

@khidorahian

Ай бұрын

I don't think so. I think starfleet learnt their lesson from that era and probably will never do such a thing again.

@TONYGILLEY

Ай бұрын

@@khidorahian If you consider what went down in Prodigy, Lower Decks, and Picard with A.I. intelligence running the starships, somehow, I strongly doubt Starfleet would have learned any lessons, families included. 🤣

@khidorahian

Ай бұрын

@@TONYGILLEY ah you’re probably right

I LIKE THE SLEEEEEK -F DESIGN BETTER THAN THE E,(my opinion and I hope we get to see its Adventures Someday in the Future! Its debue in Picard was too brief but at least we got to SEE Something! ( I think I understood its ship’s computer to have been taken over buy an invader-I’ll have to watch it again someday to pickup missed details). I like Flowing forms. Do you do the artwork renderings? Because it’s very good! I enjoy the lore of Starfleets ships -very well done🖖

During the time when a friend of mine got me to playing the first ( or second? 🤔 ) Star Trek Armada Game I somehow managed to end up on a Star Trek Forum ( probably also because of him ) where at the time they ran a contest of designing a new Star Trek Hero Ship with I think the basic guideline just being that it should easily be recognizable as a Federation designed Ship. Plenty of submissions had already happened at the time I entered with nothing _really_ standing out ( except for stuff _really_ not following the Guideline ) and having just watched Voyager I was kinda enamored with that ships lengthwise stretched design over the Galaxy Classes Oval one so on I went into 3DS Max and whipped out a _very_ rough low poly model ( no textures, no Greeblies, etc... ) of what one would now identify as an Odyssey Class Ship with its two Pylons connecting the Saucer with the rest of the Ship in a flowing manner ( creating that empty space in-between them when looked at from the front / rear ) which people liked _a lot_ back then since a) it _was_ still in the spirit of the Federation and b) it still looked different enough. Haven't followed up what happened to that Hero Ship Contest but man... Seeing the design of the now Odyssey _really_ makes me question the outcome of it - If you get what I mean 😏

Zhiv/Ren SR-83 impulse thrusters, eh? Nice to see Shield of Tomorrow referenced. (I know you can also find the Sally Ride and get it as an admiralty ship, near the Nerandra (sp?) system in sector space)

I love my Odyssey in STO. Its my current main.

I agree new star trek series using the " Enterprise F " starship with crews from several other ships . It would have old and new people watching the series and extend the Star Trek legacy more and bring back the excitement and pleasure being new and old together.

Nice callout of the Rubber Ducky room.

Modularity in space vessels seems like a good idea, but what I want to know is why doesn't Starfleet have dedicated carrier ships? Imagine a massive vessel that can unleash a swarm of hundreds or maybe even thousands of small attack fighters. We don't see anything like that in Star Trek.

I think the Oddy is the most beautiful ship in STO. I still have one captain flying one.

@valor1omega

Ай бұрын

I think it's cool looking but not as beautiful as the Connie.

Right off the bat an underside view of the vessal.

Could it also utilise the Aquarius’s aft torpedo launchers while it was docked? Giving it 4? Aft launchers?