I hated losing this character

@noahcederlund7660

3 жыл бұрын

hellfish2309 ye he was such a great character

@willis32

3 жыл бұрын

Best way for him to die though. Such a great scene.

@orestmarkheva7325

3 жыл бұрын

@@willis32 Not really, he should have shot fucker before got captured. But obviously they trying to save Marco and Francis to confront with Naomi

@ToppovDejungle

3 жыл бұрын

The only thing I don't like about The Expanse is that they killed off Ashford. I was maddened af.

@hellfish2309

3 жыл бұрын

Toppov DeJungle they needed to edge Marco, who still doesn’t look intimidating; maybe I’m too aggro cis-macho, but he looks younger than his son, not like Che Guivara who I’m guessing they were going for

Ashford is the embodiment of the phrase, "beware an old man in a profession where men die young". I liked him from the very beginning as a scoundrel-type character, and I grew to like him even more as the show went on. He didn't cling to his old ways, and proved that even an old dog can still learn new tricks. I saw the writing on the wall and knew he'd probably meet his end, but he did so making the belt a better place.

I loved his chemistry with Camina. He's well written and VERY well-portayed. David Strathairn is so underrated.

@researchandbuild1751

3 жыл бұрын

I first saw him in Alphas, he was great

@takeachance5881

3 жыл бұрын

@@researchandbuild1751 Unfortunately, the show was a mess and therefore not too good of a start to get to know him. Fortunately, he's such a great actor that he still delivers even when he only got such little room to perform, and therefore not too bad of a start to get to know him.

@jonathangodin4775

2 жыл бұрын

Every single character besides Holden is written flawlessly and very well portrayed. Holden is just your generic sci fi ship captain

@jackhammer915

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathangodin4775 he kinda has to be tho. So much of the other character's relationships wouldn't be as good if he wasn't there to ground them

@zeffmalchazeen3429

2 жыл бұрын

he had a small screen time with melba/clarissa and helped her in some way

this show will never be the same without Ashford I thought when he was introduced he would be another corrupt character trying to steal belter leadership. but no he was a good man, and an even better belter. I genuinly cried a bit when he died, but god dammit he died with honour. RIP beratna

@LilNewo

3 жыл бұрын

The show is less without him for sure but the impact of the story and it's lore is much better with thanks to his death. Bitter sweet

@nikkan3810

3 жыл бұрын

And now we lose anoter great character ;(

@Grubiantoll

3 жыл бұрын

to think that he was on it for 1 season

@daveawesomesauce772

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Tears from me too. Such a good character, and so brilliantly portrayed by the actor.

@IncognitoSprax

2 жыл бұрын

Too many great characters that die. Miller & Ashford were just too good.

The ghost knife of Callisto. What a total bosmang. RIP Beltalowda

@sr7129

3 жыл бұрын

Remember da Pirata

@skonenblades

3 жыл бұрын

Best nickname of anyone ever.

@sealoftoaster1969

2 жыл бұрын

Rest in Peace. Pampah.

It's testament to David Strathairn talents as an actor, that makes this character so worthy of admiration.

@katmatally

3 жыл бұрын

And the creation of Ashford for the show. Book Ashford is nothing like the old pirata. Pirata Ashford is SUPER.

@adamafan

3 жыл бұрын

absolutely!!! I've seen him in a lot of roles and this is definitely the best he has ever been.

@nothanks3236

3 жыл бұрын

Strathairn is criminally under-rated as an actor.

@gotmike

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t agree more! I noticed that he used belter hand gestures and body language which tells me that he really did his homework on the role.

@R4Y2k

3 жыл бұрын

They knew exactly what they were doing when they casted him as Ashford :D And believe me, I asked and Daniel Abrahams himself answered "When you get David Strathairn, you know it’s gonna be a fan favorite. If we’d cast him as a fern, the show would have been Ferns in Space. Also, a genuinely lovely man to work with. Smart, kind, professional."

Ashford...a very layered character...dripping with flaws, but being fully aware of them. He was willing to overcome his flaws to seek a better outcome for his people...and for the rest of the human race. He was a truly well written character.

@noahcederlund7660

3 жыл бұрын

Megathelos he was a really great character sad to see him die

@megathelos4976

3 жыл бұрын

@@noahcederlund7660 Indeed, but it is an opportunity for character development elsewhere; other characters can forward his lessons-learned.

@megathelos4976

3 жыл бұрын

@Jules Vallez Yes, and yes. However, they need to clear out their execs...and purge any Kennedy acolytes.

“Walked the plank” and sent his recon like a boss. A great demise for a great character

@fourthplanet

3 жыл бұрын

Arrrrhhh I couldn't have said it better miself

@thegrimcritic5494

2 жыл бұрын

He wasn’t sent to his death. He just left the ship to reunite with his old crew mates. Thanks for your service, beratna.

@thomasb1889

2 жыл бұрын

Marshal Michel Ney would have understood him.

I never got the impression that Ashford "wanted" to attack the Rocinante ... it was more that he had to stop a war, and there was no other alternative.

@nulnoh219

2 жыл бұрын

The belt must police the belt, else the inners will. They really had very little choice there.

I actually got depressed after finishing Season 4 and seeing Ashford die

@scb-1125

3 жыл бұрын

Then you know the movie and the actor did a good job.

@berthulf

3 жыл бұрын

@@scb-1125 Understatement in this case; phenomenal job. The death of Ashford is the entire system's loss.

@Zubarus

3 жыл бұрын

i still hope for a great Revange scene.

@erikskole7669

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zubarus oooh you can bet Camina is gonna get hers.

@henriqueribeiro8167

3 жыл бұрын

@@berthulf The gates are open Beretna. The galaxy and beyond is a poorer place. The Innas, the Beltalowdas, the Dusters and all humanity are at a loss of such an Old Pirata! He will live forever in our hopes.

David Strathairn is a genius. The chemistry and friction between Ashford and Drummer was one of my favourite elements of the show.

Just got my wife into the Expanse. We're on season 4 and she really likes Ashford. Boy is she going to be upset at the end like I was.

@twenty-fifth420

3 жыл бұрын

Did she cry like I did? Because there was alot of close times in this long series. But it Ashford's death and singing that got me weeping.

@JackPhoenixCz

3 жыл бұрын

@@twenty-fifth420 I'm a man, so I definitely didn't cry at that scene. I'm just saying there were some ninjas cutting onions standing just behind my back....

@ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e

3 жыл бұрын

Currently going through my third binge-through (I guess I could just say binge 🤷🏾‍♂️) and my wife went from "I hate these kinds of shows" & "you've already seen this 🤬" to me having to bring back and rewatch episodes because she fell asleep on them, lol. I've created an _Expanse_ loving monster 🤦🏾‍♂️

@dunamoose3446

3 жыл бұрын

@@ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e magnificient

I wasn't expecting to like Ashford in the TV series because his character in Abaddon's Gate is such an incompetent asshole. I was also bummed when I realized that there was no "Bull" Baca. But I was pleasantly surprised to see that aspects of Bull were written into the characters of Ashford and Drummer, who became two of my favorite characters in the TV version of the series.

@Makkis

3 жыл бұрын

Bull will appear later

@jarturolopez77

3 жыл бұрын

incompetent... yeah, no... asshole... well, yeah

@lazylazar1019

3 жыл бұрын

for those who haven't read the books ashford is the captain in the beginning then a mutiny occurred then he becomes captain and tries to use the behemoths laser to cut the ring in the process he kills sam for trying to halt the mods to the laser

@keiichimorisato98

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah... I was bummed about Bull as well, I really liked him in the books.

@dunamoose3446

3 жыл бұрын

there's a bull now!

Ashford is such a great character when it comes to his flaws and how he changes plus I liked his personality Rest in peace Ashford Drifting through space

@guytypeperson

3 жыл бұрын

I was team Camina, so I hated him when he showed up. As who he ACTUALLY was became apparent, I warmed up to him, and understood his character. When he died, I was genuinely sad. This is what a good character is, portrayed by a great actor.

Ashford was the character most improved in the transition from page to screen

It would've been fun to to see Klaes Ashford and Chrisjen Avasarala interact with each other. I feel that would've made for some intresting character moments. Sadly that never happened

@fatalshore5068

3 жыл бұрын

I think they would of gotten on spectaculaly

@MrBlueBurd0451

4 ай бұрын

@@fatalshore5068They would have been best friends almost immediately. Vitriolic ones who shoot more barbs than you can think of, but they'd get on very well, both being older, experienced people who've come to the realization that things HAVE to change.

@BattlestarZenobia

3 ай бұрын

@@MrBlueBurd0451and both having lost a child…

To the execution dock i have come Tili go to the execution block for to sail I was sick and nigh to death but I vow with my every breath For go with wisdom ways when I sail

@abbaszaidi8371

3 жыл бұрын

Tili go....

@gateauxq4604

3 жыл бұрын

Aww thanks! I never quite caught what he was saying during the shanty.

@trioofone8911

3 жыл бұрын

Check out the old traditional Scottish songs (closely related to each other) Ye Jacobites By Name and Aiken Drum

I just discovered and finished all available Expanse episodes within the last two weeks. I'm heartbroken that I've run out of episodes. I loved Ashford at every single turn, agonist and antagonist but never a villian. With more depth than all the characters in modern Star Wars combined. Very sad to see him go but he went out with style and at the moment with the whole series fresh in my mind his death scene is the one that stuck in my mind the most.

Doors and corners, that's where the get you Klaes

@HandleMyBallsYouTube

3 жыл бұрын

You know there was this kid back of Ceres...

@elias_xp95

3 жыл бұрын

Need to talk about that ride kid, next clue to the case.

He was in my top 3 characters. Him, the big bossmang Drummer and Amos.

@CLLEON

2 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed Anderson Dawes and it would of been to see him more.

Developing Ashford was one of the best decisions the TV series made. If there's one opportunity the novelists missed, it was that.

@Vastin

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, they also wrote the TV screenplays, so most of the changes you see are the authors exploring variations on the same story working around the casting and differences in the medium - and of course they have the showrunner and others collaborating with them.

It be cool to get an Ashford mini series

@dunamoose3446

3 жыл бұрын

YES

@marcusgliddy-keetash4692

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, sort like a series about his earlier like

@jugganaut33

3 жыл бұрын

Im just dying to know why he didn’t just take Marcos with him. It was so uncomfortable to watch a badass get floated by a retard and Naomi’s son. Should have just gone “Noami is looking for you” **Goodnight marcos** hero ash ford. But instead we had Ashford die for no reason for other people to be the hero. It’s so poorly written. They’ve just removed him to give the main cast more screen time which is tragic.

@balianrhade8745

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah an Ashford spin-off would be awesome

@ikkezelf599

3 жыл бұрын

That would be cool yes i even would love it in book form if not his character is a combined one in the books

Ashford is a prime example of The Expanse character development and depth. To begin with, he seems like an old belta pirate, pushing his anarchic views of leadership, dog eat dog, if you are unfit, I will fill the gap-mentality. But the more he speaks, the more actions he takes, you cant help to love him in the end, just when you actually got to know him - just like a real person you met at the bar tagging along your friend. And by the gods that fucking air lock entrence with guns blazing was a complete badassery move. Loved that scene. Rest in peace, belta. The belts position in the Sol system will never be the same without you.

I think the Camina/Ashford relationship and chemistry is the best I've seen on television since Londo & J'Kar last graced the screen.

I was pissed when Ashford replaced Anderson Dawes's character as a faction leader, these writers and this actor did such a good job that I forgot about about Dawes. Now I miss the ghost knife ... :(

@kaitlyn__L

2 жыл бұрын

I still miss seeing Jared Harris, but David Straitharn is so good too.

Klaes Ashford - that one old guy everyone secretly want to be their grandpa

Ashford is one of my favorite secondary characters of all time.

@noahcederlund7660

3 жыл бұрын

Zhai Morenn ye he was great

Personally I'm sad that Klaes Ashford is gone as he was one of my favorite characters... but his ending was pretty rock solid. If nothing else this just reminds me how good The Expanse is because it didn't just throw away a good character like lesser sci-fi would have. It gave him a meaningful death.

@tackytrooper

3 жыл бұрын

Lol and then there's Alex, who died so suddenly and inexplicably with so little consequence considering his role in the show. Real life politik creep ultimately finds its way into everything.

@Vastin

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Ashford got a pretty memorable sendoff.

@kaitlyn__L

2 жыл бұрын

@@tackytrooper apparently they wrote that before his on-set behaviour was revealed. It certainly was sudden but I didn’t find it inconsequential - in fact his death hangs over all of season 6 and heavily influences each character (including some of the conflict between characters).

@a.morphous66

Жыл бұрын

@@tackytrooper Alex's death was very much justified. It was nice to finally see some consequences of the G-forces we'd been warned about for five seasons, and the show had already established that basically anyone can die. With the actor's real-life behavior it ended up being necessary, but its consequences reverberated throughout the sixth season and I think it worked well enough.

Again "The Expanse" is one of the BEST Space Opera's, i fucking love all the characters of this show!!!

" spin the drum!" What a fucking absolute legend. I'm going to use that for something..dont know what yet.

@GenerationFilms

3 жыл бұрын

Haha awesome!

when you first see Ashford, you see him as a villain or antagonist, but quickly you realize he's a noble and brave man that truly cares for others and puts their safety over his own

Loved the character. Loved the actor who managed to play such a complex character believably.

Ghat DANG it I'm upset he's gone. Just a frikkin' awesome character. An old-school pirate in a new-school world, trying to go legit and do the right things in situations that have even the most morally upright floundering for answers. A crusty old pirate trying to be "the good guy" in situations that have no right choices is just so fantastically compelling that it makes me positively pissed we didn't get to see more of him.

Ashford was definitely the old salt dog that we needed and wanted. It was so heart breaking how that story ended. He is such a complex character though, I swear we could have several episodes on him and not quite cover everything about him.

@PetersaberHD

3 жыл бұрын

his death was not in vain

Great character arc. Comes in as a guy we don't trust and don't really like. Departs as a hero and much loved character.

One thing the Expanse taught me, any person can be redeemed in the end. Your past doesn't dictate your future. Ashford was my favorite character. He was a good man, he would do anything for the greater good. RIP

Ashford was my favorite character by far. When he died on the show my jaw was on the floor. I thought "something's coming to save him" right up to the end. He completed a perfect character arc.

The always-excellent David Strathairn set a new high standard, with this character.

In season 3 I like him and even more in season 4. He was just so awesome in calmness and his logic, Marco gonna get whats coming for him.

@ginosaysyes5397

3 жыл бұрын

Well. . Good luck eith that.

Im i the only one who feels like Ashford is Uncle Iroh of The expanse?

@s.31.l50

3 жыл бұрын

Haha didn’t think of it this way but it’s a good point

@twenty-fifth420

3 жыл бұрын

Well his wisdom is also born from tragedy like Iroh and his character builds upon wisdom of his long, LONG life. I might argue Ashford has become more of a pragmatist, willing to kill just in case while Iroh has become half a pacifist. Throughout all the story up until his capture, he essentially kept combat to minimal casualties. It wasn't until he was locked into a prison at the betrayal of his nephew (kind of like how Ashford goes out, being 'betrayed' by Marco.) that he decided to shed his pacifism for a similar, albeit, still merciful right to fight back.

@dapeach06

3 жыл бұрын

He even has an iconic song that he sang to his now dead child, so yup

Another example of how this show transcends the source material. Ashford in the TV series is a way better character than he is in the book. I just loved every scene he was in. R. I.P. you glorious bastard.

I don't know if I've ever seen a character in a sci-fi show ever that went from sketchy and unlikable, to interesting and understandable, to absolutely boss and indispensable, to ***SPOILER ALERT*** gone in such a short time. My heart will forever be broken.

I really liked Ashford, he was played by a great actor. I enjoyed his menacingly happy swagger, full of intent and a hidden dagger for his enemies. I was shocked and saddened by his demise. But he left the airlock with bravery and a great song!

Ashford was easily my favourite character in the show and his final moments in the show were epic. What a beast.

The beauty of the character of Ashford in the show was that he was truly selfless, and even though we don’t see how he’s come to this way of living, the way David Strathairn embodies the character, you can tell it was a personality trait that was hard-earned. He was a true Belter in the fact that he put the safety and well-being of everyone before himself; as one should in a life of limited air, food, and water. The other great piece of storytelling the show pulls off is how he passes these lessons- and essentially his torch- onto Camina in the scene where they are both pinned by the heavy machinery in the Behemoth. By sacrificing herself, Camina essentially dies and is reborn with a new outlook on what it means to be a Belter, and what peace actually means; a lesson that Ashford passed on to her. Man, I just love The Expanse. It’s Star Trek for the 21st Century.

That was a great character study Ben. One thing about the show which always gladdens my heart is how great the 'non-core' characters' actors are, from Series 1 onwards. The Expanse hits not just gold, but platinum with 90 % of its actors.

He was my favorite character. I wish he lasted longer.

I really liked his character he went out like a true boss

Excellent tribute for Ashford. Maginifically played by David Strathairn.

Blessed are the old men who plant trees, the shade of which they will never sit. Edit: And never underestimate the danger of an old man with nothing to lose.

When I saw the scene where Ashford was watching a video of him and his daughter, I knew he would die by the end of the episode.. Such a sad ending for a good man.

That must be the best pirate I've ever seen!

@russellmarra8520

2 жыл бұрын

Yo Ho

@Feefa99

2 жыл бұрын

@@russellmarra8520 YARRGGGHHH!!

I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite show on TV.

again, props to the actor for doing such a great job with the role - David Strathairn, Good Night, Good Luck, etc.

I love this in depth analysis. You really know how to dissect the characters on The Expanse.

i was serching for a channel that made great videos on The Expanse, so glad i found you guys.

@Hailfire08

3 жыл бұрын

If you want ship details, check out Spacedock, his videos are actually Expanse (show) canon.

Could you do a video on the intro sequence? I think it’s the best intro ever as it shows so much without a single word.

the expanse is my favorite tv show by far, was kinda sad when klaes died

the first character in a long time that makes you hate him then gradually love him. he's the jamie lannister of the series.

"I was going to say sorry" thats how you make a funny sarcastic badass

A bit of unresearched trivia: the song Klaes Ashford was singing on the way out the door was clearly (to my old folks ears, at least) based on a couple of old traditional Scottish songs. Listen to Ye Jacobites By Name and also Aiken Drum.

He was so, so much better in the TV show then in the books. In the books he was a two dimensional villain that was a literary place holder so our main characters could be moved to action, period. In the TV show his character eats up every scene, in no small part from incredible acting by David Strathairn, and the audience can't wait to see more of him, which makes his death even more painful. I think this was by design by writers, nobody cares about a "red shirt" dying but off a favorite character who has been redeemed and they will cry all the way to their credit card to buy another season ;)

An absolutely wonderful expose of a fabulous character! Thank you! And bravo to actor David Strathairn!! As many agree, hated to see him go, as well. Every phrase in every scene, was uttered with true conviction and purpose. A true joy to see him work. If there's any way his lifeless body could be recovered and brought back to the story...would that be a bad thing? Well, this is science fiction based far in the future, and medical science certainly has progressed.

Great video. Ashford was one of the most likable of the character of the Belters for me. Indeed he is a badass grandpa while wise, still prone to mistakes yet it was a pleasure to watch him grow and evolve. Such a shame we won't see more of him.

Great video, I love Ashford, I was so sad when he left Medina station without Drummer, cause that's the moment you know he would never return that mission. But at least he departed this life in a true meaningful way, remaining the man he was, head up and full of honor. There goes one of my favourite characters, like Miller before and again later, honour to those two belter, heroes of the belt, heroes of the solar system, heroes of humanity. Seriously why my favourite characters always dies? Especially in The Expanse (another character that I loved was Cotyar, honour to him too) xD, but at least they gave them a meaningful and great end.

Made me hate Inaros, man S5 really will be personal.

@naefaust581

3 жыл бұрын

Yesssss!!

I 💙 Ashford. Rest in peace my pirate friend. He walked the plank like boss!!

I really love Ashford [Show Ashford is quite distinct from Book Ashford, who pretty much sucks]. His explanation to the two Beltalowda about killing [and loyalties] is super: "He is not only himSELF. He is everyone who cares for him."

The uniforms were his idea. What a boss.

I am going to miss seeing Ashford. I was really enjoying the character and his complexities. Kudos to actor David Strathairn for his portrayal of a character that everyone had to follow so carefully to realize that they liked him so much that it hurt them to see him go. I too would love to see him back in maybe a mini-series.

His final scene shooting people while in anti gravity was cool

Well... When Ashford makes you cry..

Actually, he was scared at the end, but he held it in like a boss.

RIP Klaes. His death actually affected me more than I thought I would earlier when they introduced him. I wanted him dead the first day. then I wish he never died in the end.

I remember when David Stratharin showed up in the credits and all but jumped up and down. Such an incredible actor, having so much fun on an incredible show! I would follow Klaes Ashford.

One of my favourite characters in the show for sure, he exhibits so much apparent contradiction, growth, and tenacity in such a short amount of time.

Very few character deaths have made me cry big tears, I cried for an hour when this dude floated away.

First his first line in the show Ashford was such a likeable and complex character.. This show actually cares about character delvopement and its refreshing.

I am so glad they turned a lame and awful character from the books into one of the most legendary ones in the show. Really well done.

With your videos on the Expanse, I've started another rewatch of the series (I've watched it several times). Thanks for your quality reviews! Looking forward to finding what I missed/forgotten (like the Medina area on Ceres and now the OPA Medina Station within the Sol Ring Gate).

Great work man, I have been searching for this kind of analysis and commentary on such a fascinating story.

He was definitely one of my top favorite beratnas!!

I hated him early on because I felt he was plotting something. When he died I shed a tear

Loved this character, n him and Camino were essential together. I hope it continues, even after his loss. Great commentary:)

Loved this analysis. Thank you❤

Great video on a great show! Thanks for the upload. 😁

Ashford is certainly a legendary pirate in the expanse, really glad to see him get his bits outside of the show!

One of the best changes from book to show is the amalgamation of Bull, Ashford and Drummer. Book Ashford was a waste of flesh. I was bummed at first that Bull wasn’t in the show but when I realized what the writers were doing I was impressed. The show characters are much richer. This is one of the few changes from book to show I can get fully behind. The casting is fabulous as well.

Brilliant and eloquent as always!

You do great work. Love your critiques.

You know I hated him at first, I then I was like men, then I liked him and then we lost him so I miss him. Such a good actor.

Just discovered your channel and absolutely love your presentation style and skills, also if you happen to write your own material, again, I loved the presentation and you have earned my thumbs up and a subscription to the channel. I look forward to watching your other interpretations of the characters from the Expanse!

Good effort, very watchable, thank you.

American Ben, It's been to long since I've enjoyed watching Klaes Ashford. He and Amos Burton are my favorite characters. I served and went to war and became so very cynical. Even of the country I served. Well done sir. I'm going to start watching the series again tonight

@GenerationFilms

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your service, even if it was for the Empire! 😁✌🏻

If the crew of the Roci found a way to time travel, they could pinpoint the location with the coordinates that ashford sent, and rescue him in a commandeered Stealth ship, right after getting spaced, for asfords revenge scene that ooh so badly needs to happen.

i had to give a salute and a tear when he was left drifting into space, singing his song

Great tribute to an excellent character! Well done sir!

I really liked the differences to the Charakter Ashford in the book. The TV Ashford is a far more three-dimensional Charakter. Its just one of the many things the series did better then the already very good book series. I also loved how i expected betrayal at every corner, because i already knew book-Asford and i got completely subversed! Ingenius!

Awesome character, awesome actor, and awesome synopsis. I just wish that last scene on the bridge with Marco was done more consistent with his character. 2-on-1 stand-off with his gun on Marco is an easy choice to pull the trigger. If his choice was due to Daddy issues, it wasn’t at all clear in the scene. Jumping into the bridge to find the kid first would have been an easy and more dramatic fix.

Loved this, /salute Klaes. Please do a best spy in Science Fiction - IMO it will come down to a fight between Garak from DS9 and Cotyar from The Expanse.