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Probably the ST ship that i like the most. Its shape and presence is without comparition. Thank you for the excellent video.

I've always loved the Romulan War Birds!

I liked the Valdore.

In my headcanon, I assume the enormous size of the D'deridex is at least partially a panicked response to interrogations of the captured Enterprise-C crew especially a certain blonde Tactical Officer. Where the Romulans learned in their near future a larger, more lethal Enterprise-D 'battleship' would be launched capable on its own of wiping out the 4 Warbirds that attacked Narendra 3.

@pliskin8116

11 ай бұрын

Perhaps…not a bad idea. I could see it, but temporal mechanics, and the federation time cops…idk more likely it’s the natural progression of romulan designs. And meant to be the ultimate expression of Romulus.

@rubaiyat300

11 ай бұрын

@@pliskin8116 Thing is we have a history of Romulan ship development over centuries where they are advanced for the Ent era, but were very much not by TOS (other than 2 wonder weapons basically neutralized after their first encounter with Starfleet) which makes sense for a monolithic and xenophobic empire in the face of egalitarian Federation advancement over a century. They needed tech exchange with the Klingons (in the form of reused ship footage of the D-7 as Romulan Warbirds) to attain parity with the 20 year old Constitution class. The only way they kept up with ship classes that are honored with the name Enterprise was either dogpiling on with more ships or building as huge as they did with the D'deridex. Which again works for a defensive-minded xenophobic society, they can afford to make huge investment in single ships rather than needing many relatively cheaper ships to explore the frontier.

@pliskin8116

11 ай бұрын

@@rubaiyat300 agreed, they certainly needed an upgrade after the first encounter with the tos enterprise. Yes they were advanced in ent. era comparatively to star fleet. Sooo how did they go from that, to the kinda poorly designed bird of prey? This may border on headcannon and heresy but I’m starting to really take stock in strange new worlds. Don’t know if you have seen the season 1 finale, and yes it’s in an alternate timeline but other than pike still being captain, there were almost no other changes. And that particular romulan vessel was fast, had multiple weapons, and was able to take on 2 starships with the best captains in the fleet. Off on a tangent a bit, but gta remember the romulans are a threat. They do undercover missions. Yea they take and re engineer tech. And it’s totally possible, war Tasha scared tf out of them. These warping timelines(in my own head-cannon) make it difficult to pin down exactly where the tech development comes from. Lmao if I don’t make sense it’s okay lol

@vic5015

11 ай бұрын

Very possible. We know that the Romulabs are into Psyops, deception, and intimidation.

@wyldelf2685

7 ай бұрын

Narendra 3 , ,Warbirds yes👍 Deridex Warbirds no ,a lesser warbird according to Tasha's tech briefing with C crew , , ,🤔🤔

I always loved the design of the D'Deridex.

I have all of the varieties of that warbird but the legendary one on Star Trek Online. I love the design and sheer power of that ship. They nerfed the Romulan mega DLC, but it’s still a formidable package.

Romulans never disappoint...

I loved these ships and that huge Klingon battleship. Whatever it's name is.

@charlescooney9281

11 ай бұрын

Neg’var?

Of significant power the D class warship of the romulans. Given it's cloak ability and toughness of the ship makes it an formidable ship. Displaying the military might of the romulans

Beautiful and imposing starship.

waot a min, Gul Dukat is a Changeling!!!

@Cody0ne5

3 ай бұрын

Gul Dukat is Cardassian. Not a Romulan LOL

We need an alternative reality story where one of these gets sucked into the Delta Quadrant. I'd love to see the Khazon try to take this beast on!

via show it is 6 cannons, but via creator of the model it is 11-13 cannons (as you can see the copulas of them on the model) - and lack of impulse engines that were forgotten :D. To bad they made the bottom portion so flat and removed the "carrier" ability of this ship. Prototype model looked way better.

@augustusclaudiusvenorius6292

11 ай бұрын

Yes. In addition to that, the ship was meant to appear onscreen at 1350ish meters. I love the DS9's tech manual, but it was rife with errors, especially when it came to scaling starships.

@T0ffik1

11 ай бұрын

@@augustusclaudiusvenorius6292 im not talking about info from the DS9 manual, but from the Q&A of the TNG model builder thats on YT :), But it is sad that supposly now "cannon" is that D'Dex has 6 cannons, as that makes the ship basicly defenceless even when the cannons are big and powerfull, as it would be relatively easy to disable one and have whole arc not covered.

@augustusclaudiusvenorius6292

11 ай бұрын

@@T0ffik1 oh, okay! :) The reason I said that was because, many years ago (late 90s?), I corresponded with Greg Jein. He told me that the Warbird was initially scaled at 1.35 klicks long

Romulan Warbirds remind me of the submarines. Just the way they behave under cloak!

@Xalgucennia

11 ай бұрын

That was actually the original idea being the TOS episode *balance of terror", with the enterprise being analogous to the powerful American warship hunting the war bird analogous to the stealthy Soviet submarine.

Loved the analysis ❤

According to the Star Trek: Star Charts (p. 63) and the Stellar Cartography: The Starfleet Reference Library ("Federation Historical Highlights, 2161-2385), there was a star system named D'deridex, which might be the possible origin for the name of this starship class, in the Beta Quadrant. The system's primary was an F-class star.

Lacks maneuverability against smaller faster ships

Romulans seem to love using only one ship class at a time for the bulk of their fleet haha

Yes an screen catching design for sure

They aren't even planning to do Legacy, Jeri Ryan mentioned it in an interview while Kertzman was there and you could tell it hadn't even crossed his mind he'd rather focus on star trek the college years.

best looking ship in tng era trek imo - ❤the d'deridex

An upgraded galaxy class with quantum torpedoes an regenerative shields would match if not destroy the bird , but I love this ship it’s so iconic

@blackmondayy1

6 ай бұрын

Yeah .... but the same could be said about the D´Deridex if it would be upgraded with the type VIII disruptures and hyper plasma torpedoes from the Valdore class

Awesome ship .

Cheers Jack

To be fair, Section 31 probably *would* have allued with the Tal Shiar to try to eliminate the Dominion threat.

@pike100

Ай бұрын

*allied

That multi hulled green Warbird is quite a bit larger than Galaxy Class StarShips , , when Geordi's shuttle encountered one its massive presence was very noticeable , , Tomalak's Large Warbird could destroy Enterprise-D & 2 Klingon Kavor Class Birds of Prey , ,Tomalak would be destroyed as well , so Tomalak descided not to attrack , but if he was in kamakazi mind set , , , ,show over folks 😋 , , back to original point TNG Warbird ENORMOUS compared to Enterprise-D, ,🖖😸🖖

Once you pronounced Galorndon Core as "Galdorian Core", that's when you jumped the shark and revealed that it was all a bit.

The D'Deridex was the Romulan Empire. Anything before or after was just weak or lazy or poor writing decisions tbh. What's not to like about this ship and it's TNG offering of the Romulans? It was purposefully added to be the nemesis to Picards Enterprise. To be an even bigger and more powerful ship than the mighty Galaxy Class, pride and flagship of the Federation. Lurking in the shadows, watching, plotting, and with an apparent hatred, arrogance and possibly even a little bit of envy for all things Starfleet. Some argued the Galaxy was more powerful or at least just as powerful, but imho and as outlined above, the D'Deridex was there for fill the role of the "Omg! Their ship is even bigger and more powerful than ours! How is that possible!" sort of scenario as to add a real threat and sense of danger instead of casually flying about space with an over-powered Federation ship that would only serve to remove a lot of those dangerous scenarios "Cuz the Enterprise is the best ship out there!", that's not good for plots or holding the viewers interest. Don't forget, the Galaxy was an exploration vessel that could fill the role of a battleship when needed, whereas the D'Deridex was designed primarily as a superiority war machine, to press the Romulan dominance over anything that stood in their way, but filled the role of an exploration vessel. So their primarily wasn't the same and while creating a war machine doesn't automatically give you superiority over a ship that wasn't, in this case I feel for the story it was supposed to fill the role of a more powerful ship. Arguably the Galaxy and the D'Deridex were the two most visually stunning ships ever created for Star Trek and imho are. Nice vids Trek Central.

Say what you want about the Non-Federation ships. I have a hard time deciding which class of ship is more intimidating: the D'Deridex Romulan Warbird, or the Negh'Var Klingon Cruiser (which might have been built along the same time as Vor'Cha has Praxis not exploded in my mind).

Best ,ever,period .

I always wondered why in star trek discovery why the federation didn't start using the romulan technolog to keep warping around since they had reunited with the Vulcans to become nevar. You would think that the Nevar world would share the technology to help the Federation stay intact. The sigularity technology would of been a great help.

The are indeed my favorite adversary ship, menacing and yet beautiful. Yet, their negative space sort of works thematically to suggest that the Romulan Star Empire looks huge and important yet somehow--hollow. Even so, the idea that this ship and its technology exists at all really raises the stock of the Romulans compared to their portrayals in the 23rd C where they seem like such a regional power, yet now have managed to keep themselves in the game somehow. While, unfortunately, we know shockingly little in canon about the Romulan's empire, their total volume of space, colonies, subject races, internal and external economies and so on, the existence of the D'deridex shows them to be a great power, even if both the great warship and empire it represents are deeply flawed. I do prefer the idea that the D'Deridex is a huge ship, but a lot smaller than its stated stats: lower number of decks, length of only about a 1000 meters if that. I would prefer this mostly because the D'deridex doesn't seem to have all those cool bells and whistles it was supposed to have, more weapons, carrier space for squadrons of drones and fighters and so on. Also, while clearly a big ship on the screen, it just doesn't seem nearly THAT big. The franchise seemed fond of over-scaling adversary ships, THIS ship which was meant to be quite large, somehow always looked understated compared to the colossus shown in the Star Trek Encyclopedia. So, I've long discounted the stated size, which I think is for the best due to questions of how the Romulan Star Empire could both build and support these immense ships in the first place, AND to do so in fairly large numbers. I do wonder if, while the D'deridex uses an artificial singularity, it's size and open space was somehow necessary for that? Also, while these big capital ships might use that technology, and it might be necessary for a warp field so large, smaller ships might well still use good 'ol antimatter which would explain the Romulan's ongoing need for large amounts of dilithium.

Hey! Just because I use FEET and Inches and MILES, doesn't make me a bad guy.

@TCTurner

11 ай бұрын

😂 Sorry, I had to find a reason to get a subtle Star Wars joke in there, but don't feel bad, I use the same 😊

the front part of the warbird looks like a bird's head or a helmet of a roman soldier

I wonder how the War Galaxy fares against this ship.

So when will we be able to play the D'deridex in WoWS?

when I first saw the warbird on TNG on TV, I started watching Star Trek. I found the design of the ship very imposing and threatening.

tomalak when he wasn't masquerading as a narn i secretly believe that the tal shair kidnapped the real garkar and replaced him with tomalak or at least a tomalak clone. iam sure they had secretly infiltrated the babylon 5 universe.

Terrible the way this ship got nerfed in DS9, tho.

@HarvestMoonHowl

11 ай бұрын

I know, right? They ended up becoming the most numerous Battleship class in the allied fleets, and surpassed only by the Neg'Var in sheer firepower. I actually wasn't a fan of the Dominion story arc for that reason, alone. It felt like the writers were running out of ideas and just wanted a big war against a very generic adversary.

@Th0ughtf0rce

10 ай бұрын

They weren't nerfed. Nor were they bad to begin with. They were just built with a cold war mentality. Big, imposing, and served many different roles other than combat. A product of a different era. Like how the Galaxy class Odyssey got brutally beaten up by 3 Jem Hadar attack ships.

@npatil85

2 ай бұрын

@@Th0ughtf0rce yup. Galaxy class is overrated

Why is the name of this ship like the name of a headache drug 😄

Romulus Objective Battle Offensive Compatible Ordnance Prototype Part Romulan part all battle ship With a black HeOaLrEt ♥️

The warbird does not have impulse engines. Fact!

Did they ever give an in universe explanation for why the ship has a giant empty space in the middle?

@eskanda3434

11 ай бұрын

The rule of cool

@Colin_

11 ай бұрын

Think it had something to do with the (at the time) lineof sight rule being between the warp engines. I think there was also the proposed idea that the space could house a smaller support vessel.

Captain Jack?

I don't remember seeing it in star trek picard...

@DomDParis

11 ай бұрын

It was very briefly seen in an LCARs display on the Eleos

Hello marbles.

The Enterprise G, could not destroy a Romulan warbird. She is outgunned and outmatched.

@TCTurner

11 ай бұрын

Totally agree, she's probably the equivalent of the C, compared to the ships of the name between the two, but we know full well that being the hero ship, they'll find a way 😄

@Colin_

10 ай бұрын

Yeah the G is a pretty big step back for the Federation Flagship.

oh? where exactly are it’s impulse thrusters? ? ? ? 😂😂😂😂

I’m just gonna say this, bit the enterprise g should have never been a thing

🖖🖖😊🖖🖖🍁

Warbirds were powerful but got their @$$es handed to them by the Jem Hadar.

The fact the rommkes use blackhiles means when the burn happened they should have remained unaffected amd reign Supreme

@rubaiyat300

11 ай бұрын

Not that I like the plot development, but there is no reason dilithium isn't still required at some point in the Romulan FTL drive, or that whether through reproachment with the Vulcans or some technical reason, the blackhole drives simply weren't usable. Certainly even WITHOUT any of those reasons if the drive was fully capable of working without dilithium other species would be using it well before the Burn as dilithium deposits ran dry. It's not like a hyper advanced 31st century Federation wouldn't be well aware of the science and capable of replicating them (in the scientific sense not the Trek sense).

@paulrasmussen8953

11 ай бұрын

@rubaiyat300 or add in the protostar drive. Again they can't even keep their own lore straight

@DomDParis

11 ай бұрын

The video even goes into this, Quantum Singularity drives still require dilithium as it’s a power regulator. This was established by ship designer Rick Sternbach.

@paulrasmussen8953

11 ай бұрын

@DomDParis since when never heard it. And agsin another option oritistar drive.

@DomDParis

11 ай бұрын

@@paulrasmussen8953since he designed the ship. It’s mentioned in a tech manual and also seen in iirc a 2003 issue of Trek Magazine (I’ll have to double check which one)

Terrible the way it wasnt used as much in tng

Romulan war birds are to big to use in a fight I liked the classic war bird they're fast enough to damage to the ships of the federation

I always thought this was a glass cannon designed completely for hit and run.

And for the time of the 32nd century, this ship is not even considered large.

12:21 Mogai, not Valdore

Has paranoia about foreign powers but allows hundreds of foreign ships into it's home system to evacuate it's people 🤣

They DIDN'T DO 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩!!!!!!! Against the Dominion

You want thoughts pm this frankly ridiculous ship, in my opinion. Why use a "contained singularity" as a power source? Aside from the FACT the gravometric waves emanating from said black hole makes your cloak useless, if you're going to use a containment system presumably on your singularity this will squeeze on your mini black hole creating the gravity waves.....which would use (do the numbers) woild require most of not all the output of the singularity creating a loop which generates net zero power. Therefore it'd need more power (a warp core perhaps 😂) forufe support at the very least. This ships power system is a poorly thought joke!!! Looks nice, but nah. Ridiculous

Wouldn't it be more like metres=imperials and feet=rebels?

Nah. Way more bark than bite. The Dominion proved it.

@blackmondayy1

6 ай бұрын

Read the books. The only ship that could stand 1 on 1 against a Jem Hadar battlecruiser was in fact the D´Deridex and in some rare occasions with a good commander making good use of the cloaking device would even destroy a Jem Hadar battlecruiser .... proving just how big of an advantage cloaking really is.

Star trek is dead. I wish it wasn't, but it is... F*** the digital world. So sad😢😢😢😢

@oliversacco7320

11 ай бұрын

Lol

@CerebralEnema

11 ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure Star Trek is the kind of franchise that will always be around. It will change over time as new owners decide what direction they want to take it in but it will always be here. If there are parts you don’t like then just ignore them and watch the rest.

@esics8123

11 ай бұрын

Idk. I prefer the tos to ds9 era myself but I think strange new worlds is pretty solid.

@blackmondayy1

6 ай бұрын

Imo it was JJ who killed both Star Trek and Star Wars

This dude has not one but TWO pronounced speech impediments. It's really hard to understand him.