Dear angry men in the comments. Wouldn't you want PAID leave to spend time with your amazing babies? Wouldn't you want your partner in life to be able to make more money and contribute more to the house hold? Where is the downside?

@BooksAndChocolate

3 жыл бұрын

Best comment I've seen, how can a man who truly supports and loves his wife complain about her being paid more. Shouldn't they be proud and glad for her?

@AnnnnnnnnnnnLeona

3 жыл бұрын

@Anil Ravi „paid more“ as in more than she is paid now, not necessarily more than him.

@athenstar10

3 жыл бұрын

Because they are children themselves, immature asf🤣🤣🤣 These are guys that don't deserve to have their own kids.

@biancat7761

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnnnnnnnnnnnLeona even if it means she makes more than her male partner? It means more $ for the family? Everyone wins. Zero downside. So confused by the anger in the comments...

@prathikjain8950

3 жыл бұрын

@@athenstar10 shut up.

People insulting iceland as mediocre when iceland is one of the most peaceful and richest countries in the world.... They are doing something right, thank you, go fix your own countries if you dont like it

@mychannel-rt2gn

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody ever called iceland mediocre...

@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600

3 жыл бұрын

@@mychannel-rt2gn the comments beg to differ. Just alot of intolerance

@lockandloadlikehell

2 жыл бұрын

@@mychannel-rt2gn meh

@MollarCZ

2 жыл бұрын

it is rather denial of one sided blind claim that Iceland is perfect.

@crewmatewillthrowthesehand7600

2 жыл бұрын

@@MollarCZ it is rather denial to pretend that I said Iceland is perfect

that dad is correct. nearly every job interview ive had since i was 22 asked me if i intended to have a child in next 5 years. The 'norms' we're blind to -.-

@kimwarburton8490

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdityaDeo-cg6eu typically in the western world babies do not goto work with us. Typically 'day care' of some type is used. Most mums return to work once the child attends 'fulltime' school hours, typically aged 5yrs old. The only interferance would be the same as any other household member i.e. accidents and illhealth. I can only speak from my experience n culture

@AdityaDeo-cg6eu

3 жыл бұрын

@You don't have to know my name something you want to say ?

@latenightthinker4737

3 жыл бұрын

I mean it is kinda relevant to the whole thing cause it means they're considering whether you're valuable enough to continue employing, covering, paying, etc. should you become a mother.

@kimwarburton8490

3 жыл бұрын

@@latenightthinker4737 i think paternal leave changes things. Why is a child 100% a female's responsibility? are men not equal to the task? Often men make the better parent and we've had way too many children, myself included suffer from the lack of an effective father-figure in their lives, be it through separation or work being deemed a higher priority by society. Children are the future. their mental and character development needs what men bring to the table. Keeping men away from their children is detrimental for everyone. This subtle form of sexism is damaging to everyone.

@latenightthinker4737

3 жыл бұрын

@@kimwarburton8490 Men are of course equal to the task but I think it's obvious that there's something about pregnancy that makes this whole parental thing a different ball game at least during that. So it's clear to me why it's currently more of serious question towards women rather than men. but I agree, they should also ask men if they plan on being a father in the near future because society and the government look like they might finally acknowledge the importance and rights of fathers.

I genuinely don't understand why this topic riles people up so much, particularly young men. Honestly, it makes me sad.

@smilingmushroom

5 жыл бұрын

Idk, perhaps they worry about running out of job vacancies?

@chrslb

3 жыл бұрын

Because the pay gap is a myth and women enjoy a ton of advatages like *much* lower incarceration rate, lower suicide rate, better life expectancy, no draft, better support overall from society, yet somehow men still have the privilege? It's women that are privileged, extremely so

@matth7142

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrslb ok misogynist

@TheGamingAlong

3 жыл бұрын

I don't believe in the 'employee score'. The quality of an employee is subjective.

@chrslb

3 жыл бұрын

@@matth7142I hope I'm not a mysoginist. All the facts I cited are true though. All genders should be equal but women just happen to have all the benefits at the moment

Gee, those Icelandic babies are pretty chubby! Very healthy looking children. It's a great idea to allow dads to spend more time with their kids from infancy. I would think that it will help them bond even more with their children.

@leslieangela9114

5 жыл бұрын

Love !! I won't ever marry someone who doesn't want to contribute or take responsibility for our kids.

@leslieangela9114

5 жыл бұрын

And that includes being involved from day 1

@Pining_for_the_fjords

5 жыл бұрын

@Royal Satan Lol what? As a man I'd expect to have an equal share in raising my child with its mother. If you think the mother should do most or all of the work, you probably shouldn't have kids.

@music0dance0rihanna

5 жыл бұрын

@Royal Satan Ahaha, a woman expect the father of her child to contribute to their upbringing, and call her entitled? How entitled is it to expect a woman to raise your child by herself? Though I realize your name is Royal Satan, so probably just a troll, have fun waisting time.

@HAngeli

5 жыл бұрын

they are so cute * - *

So glad she emphasized on "it's not that there are a couple of evil men.."

@brinawidmer

3 жыл бұрын

well in some countries there are 🙈

@tromboner6061

3 жыл бұрын

@@brinawidmer ok

@anthonycosta128

5 ай бұрын

There are also evil women

extraordinary how ideas like teaching kids to be both caring and assertive and giving men good paid paternity leave have somehow hurt so many people's feelings in these comments

@mrpythagoras7079

5 жыл бұрын

Only ones hurt are the retardad feminists. The "pay gap" is a total farce. You work less, you get paid less, period.

@bellabroughton1214

5 жыл бұрын

@@mrpythagoras7079 yet it's intriguing that you were the only one who felt it necessary to reply...

@mrpythagoras7079

5 жыл бұрын

@@bellabroughton1214 Indeed. I think it's about time I get a job..

@connor9423

5 жыл бұрын

Personally I think even the shown example of nuclear plant was a bit telling. The "unskilled" workers outside were shown doing hard manual labour, with heavy objects, versus the unskilled labourers insides were tinkering with smaller items. Perhaps there jobs really are more similar, but from this video it was easy to see why the former would be paid more for increased physical risk and endurance. I think implementing paternity leave would help "level the playing field", since the forced implementation of maternity leave has certainly made companies view female candidates as more of a financial risk. However, forcing up costs on companies across the board is going to be met with things like cutting wages and hiring less workers. It will be interesting to see what the results of these school programs are. It is a well known fact that the biggest contributing factor in the gender wage gap is the different career choices made by men and women. Where women traditionally go for more empathetic people oriented jobs like nursing, teaching, etc, and men tend to work more with things (and more with dangerous things), like construction, computers, etc. I'm interested to see the results of their experiments and whether or not it has a statistically significant affect on career choices. There have already been several studies conducted on monkeys that show they make these same "gendered stereotyped choices" in play and exploration when left to their own devices. These same results are also seen in >1 year old human babies. Surely no one would argue that these subjects have been "socialized" by gender norms presented in society.

@spyrolover8252

5 жыл бұрын

bella broughton pointing something out means your feelings are hurt 🤣🤣🤣

The men out here truly saying that we should'nt be equal because "who will look after the child as it grows". Um? why it can't be the father?

@1wun1

4 жыл бұрын

Because of hypergamy

@gammarayneutrino8413

3 жыл бұрын

@James Humanity hasn't even existed for a million years. Only ~200000 years. And in the past before farming was invented children were raised communally, which means for ~190000 years both men and women took part in the raising of children. I don't know what happenned after farming. It might be a more modern trend for only women to raise children.

@livelovelife32

3 жыл бұрын

@Jameshmm are you rich? Your job must really pay if you feel you are in that kind of financial position. In this kind of financial environment it's difficult for most families to afford the woman staying home even when she actually wants to. I find the debate men have on this topic really interesting. I have heard men call housewives leeches and criticise women who work the very next day. Perhaps the male gender should have a meeting and pick a struggle? On that note I will say that if a woman CHOOSES to stay home that society (and this includes a healthy amt of the male population) need to not shame her for it. Similarly a woman whom works should not be shamed for it. What should be criticised of both genders is lack of work-life balance.

@paulitamme

3 жыл бұрын

@James ... So the wife doesn't have a say in this? What if it isn't about income, but about feeling accomplished?

@anitamihholap5926

3 жыл бұрын

@James well, if men spent time raising babies since infancy, they'd know as much about them. It's not some biological trait, it's about experience.

not just for wealthy countries but for all countries: womens rights are humanrights - gender equality is important in the entire world.

@TheGamingAlong

3 жыл бұрын

Tell that to some african countries which doesn't even have a proper toilet.

@brinawidmer

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGamingAlong still, women in those countries deserve to be treated as equals by men.

@roto9991

3 жыл бұрын

@@brinawidmer nope

@Marcos-hf4cz

3 жыл бұрын

@@brinawidmer So by treated as equal you mean men being taugh to be femenine, women to be masculine and denying any difference between the sexes

@skmaurya8221

3 жыл бұрын

@@roto9991 wow idiot, let's clap for you, hey give this Ro To a OSCAR

As an Indian, am so proud of Iceland. It takes great minds to take such steps..

@titanking5956

3 жыл бұрын

This is true gender equality. But dont get brainwashed by the American media. America has fallen.

@mychannel-rt2gn

3 жыл бұрын

@@titanking5956 nobody is talking about America. Don’t be so obsessed with them

@Cerebrum_Nebula

2 жыл бұрын

@@titanking5956 no we haven't, it's the house that's trying to turn our country into a christofascist dictatorship, don't judge us 300 million americans based on 100,000 of those pesky conservative tards.

I want to raise my children in this country. This is amazing.

@eduardochavacano

3 жыл бұрын

then keep your culture in where you hail from. Especially if you are from a society where 92% of the population are drama queens with pugged noses.

@smithasreejith8855

3 жыл бұрын

@@eduardochavacano who are you? Who asked?

@Ikajo

3 жыл бұрын

Most of the Nordic countries have similar laws regarding parental leave. I think Sweden recently, as in during the last two years, increased the amount of time alloted to the fathers. And some people were very unhappy with this idea but apparently parents can't share equally the nearly two year parental leave otherwise.

@A.D.540

2 жыл бұрын

Long us you can handle the cold lol

@lotuseater7247

Жыл бұрын

or better, push for it in your own country

Iceland has an app to check if the dating partner is not too close relative.

@world-traveler880

5 жыл бұрын

Alabama needs to get it too. They seem to be having trouble.

@timhua6936

5 жыл бұрын

@@world-traveler880 SWEET HOME ALABAMA

@lovesimpleton8177

5 жыл бұрын

many people love dating relatives.. many royal families not allowed to marry non relatives

@3DegreesNorth638

5 жыл бұрын

Must be why they have so many Down syndrome babies...

@jamestalbot1647

5 жыл бұрын

And the middle- East

People (mainly men) are soooo triggered! It's actually funny to read/skim through this comment section, just embrace equality!

@bogdanstasyuk1758

4 жыл бұрын

show me one example you know where for the same job (same hours, same productivity, same position, same qualifications) a women gets less than a man? ( first world countrys only please), plus no one takes in consideration the biological approach between man and women (physical and physiological)

@davidcooks2379

3 жыл бұрын

@@bogdanstasyuk1758 bbc presenters. Until a couple of years ago the information about their salaries wasn't published. The first time when it was published it caused an explosion. Anchors of the same program earned salaries differing by factor x2

@thedudefromrobloxx

3 жыл бұрын

@@bogdanstasyuk1758 dude u can literally google it urself and come yp with so many examples

@davidmiranda4745

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-ig4zh grandpa, learn to use the computer yourself. Don't be lazy old child

@va3413

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-ig4zh how is it in ignorant land? Clearly you're the one who says it doesn't exist so the burden of proof is on you. It is well known that there is wage gap and you would know this unless you choose to be ignorant. Please show peer reviewed studies that show there is NO wage gap. Burden of proof is on you.

the way children being taught is rather interesting, the fact that fathers are encouraged to spend more time with their children during their infancy would help the child to learn an ideal equity and a balanced attention that a child must get from their parents

I feel like the Iceland model is very pragmatic. The score system takes into account many variables that determine wages. If a women gets a lower score, she's paid less. Male gets a lower score, he's paid less. If they have equal scores, they are paid the same. This is very quantitative and logical. What objections are there to this except the fact that some people just don't wanna pay women more?

@weirdhumanbeing9043

4 жыл бұрын

I think they can sue them I'm not sure I don't really know much about laws in my country (yeah we are a country) since I'm only 12

@johans7775

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. However, I would like to know how they come up with the scores that value each job and if they can guarantee that the scores are not affected by someones bias.

@davidcooks2379

3 жыл бұрын

My objection is that this distorts the market. If some jobs are more valuable to the market but have lower scores in their system, then people will not want to do these jobs. The market would usually correct itself from the scarcity by increasing wages for those jobs, while this system is inherently inflexible so will not correct itself

@csillaomacht9421

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidcooks2379 I think they said that companies with more than 25 employees obliged to do this kind of evaluation. And if two workers have the same score within the company then the company has to pay the same for both workers. With same score someone else could earn more at another company. That was my understanding.

@davidcooks2379

3 жыл бұрын

@@csillaomacht9421 ok, so this will be advantageous for small companies, but potentially disadvantageous for composites with 26+ employees

What I love about the Scandinavian system is that they recognise that man have and are constrained by their gender as well and they work to counteract those constraints. In the US I feel like the view is that gender is something that women exclusively experience. Women in our society, while lacking hard power, hold an incredible amount of soft power and framing gender as something that only belongs to one group of people creates division and sets egalitarian progress backwards, especially when the group with soft power is seeking hard power as well.

@ellep.6204

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome point

@livelovelife32

3 жыл бұрын

What an interesting point! I've never heard of that one and I quite agree. A male friend of mine doesn't want to marry because laws favour women so strongly in marriage.

@lockandloadlikehell

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, get those females out in those fields, forests, farms, and construction sites and farms where even the female owners that require big strong males to do what their big, strong females can't, won't hire females to fill those positions. And I know all those 5'4" 150 pounders with 30% bodyfat will be LINING UP to work as bouncers and doormen. And infantry units. We know from experience that will yield stellar results.

@lotuseater7247

Жыл бұрын

@@lockandloadlikehell Women do work in construction and agriculture though. And in the near future tech will do a lot of the hard work so how will you then defend unequal pay? Obviously certain roles are generally more equipped to men or women but this is increasingly narrowed.

If I were from a country like that I would want children.

@tromboner6061

3 жыл бұрын

Strangely, scandinavian countries have lowest birth rate in the world

I'm packing my bags yall

The world needs to learn from Iceland about Gender Equality and its policies

@moisesbeyond

2 жыл бұрын

and yet the more equality in a country less families and less children exist....

@Some1Philosophy

10 ай бұрын

​@@moisesbeyond Why?

smh so many commenters who don't understand even remotely what they're arguing about. YES, "equal pay for equal work" includes the actual work conditions, like working outdoors/doing hard labor/working under difficult weather conditions. we're talking about women working the exact SAME jobs as men, doing the same work, but still being paid less.

@q-_-p.d-_-b

5 жыл бұрын

The reason employers pay men more than women for the same work is this... this is an actual study btw.... There's a company where every employee does exactly the same job, same hours, same pay, etc. The boss gathered up all the employees and gave them two choices, leave work early or stay and work overtime. All the women choose to leave early, and all the men choose to stay overtime. Surprise, surprise. And that is your answer.

@claire98

3 жыл бұрын

@@q-_-p.d-_-b Not surprising, considering (at least in US, but I'm suspecting that in many other developed countries also) paying less for the same job based on gender is straight-up illegal.

@sarkarshreekanya5515

3 жыл бұрын

@@q-_-p.d-_-b The reason why the women chose to leave early is because working women have to work both at the workplace and at home. On the other hand, most men when they return home, don't have to work anymore, they're tired after working for so long, that they spend rest of the night by doing stuff, like for example watching TV. The men chose to work overtime is because they didn’t have to do chores at home when they'd return, but for women, the case is different . If the roles were swapped, I'm sure the men would choose to leave early too.

@Marcos-hf4cz

3 жыл бұрын

Er no, that is proven to be wrong

@MrAlumrocky

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarkarshreekanya5515 your statement is not correct, it's just based off generalisations. At my workplace most of the men live at their own place many without a partner. And they still do overtime.

What a great movement! I hope this movement and education are being adopted in other countries as well. Because women and men are equal, both are human!

@giuhiu851

4 жыл бұрын

M K highly doubt that

@WeatherMondacicci

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think this is the future and men like the one above me either will have to adapt or get left behind.

@Marcos-hf4cz

3 жыл бұрын

Yes we Are humans but men and women are different physicologically and physically, we Are simply different, that is a fact

@Marcos-hf4cz

3 жыл бұрын

@@WeatherMondacicci Oh really? Since I Know most men refuse to date feminists,and feminists are starting to fret about It, also do you really believe that men and women are equal in a physical and physicological way?

@KD400_

8 ай бұрын

​@@AliciaGonzalez-pk3mwnice that a woman is against this bs

I love Iceland so much because of lots of things: Vikings (Especially their Discovery of America before Columbus), Gender Equality, peace, renewables and no Tipping culture.

@ang5035

3 жыл бұрын

vikings did not discover America - there were millions of people living there for a while... If you mean vikings were the first europeans to arrive at America, then yes, you are correct.

@jeanclaudejunior

3 жыл бұрын

@@ang5035 I meant to say that Vikings were the first Europeans to discover America before Columbus did

@Marcos-hf4cz

3 жыл бұрын

Vikings werent all about gender equality

People should be paid the same as long as they do the same job and deliver the same output, (regardless of their gender). *Some* people in the comments section are arguing while not even talking about the same thing...😅 Is this an acceptable comment that won't get too much hate?🤔

@aadityabhetuwal5990

3 жыл бұрын

Well capitalism doesn’t work like that, you gotta sell your skills and things you can do(even if you cannot) And in overall become a better negotiator.

@fatemakhanpurwala1473

3 жыл бұрын

I guess hate is a necessity to spread since we lack love

@Marcos-hf4cz

3 жыл бұрын

Err in fact every first world country pays the same to women for the same hours

@juno2768

3 жыл бұрын

@@Marcos-hf4cz That's probably mostly true for jobs with set or low wages. When it comes to higher paid jobs, negotiation usually decides how much you're paid so there can be disparity even between two people with the seemingly same skills, background, etc.

@Marcos-hf4cz

3 жыл бұрын

@@juno2768 Eeeer no, its not legal to pay someone less money based on gender

Outdoor workers get paid more because who wants to work outdoors!!

@energyeternal

5 жыл бұрын

exactly. i would gladly take a less strenouous indoor job for the same pay.

@leifharmsen

5 жыл бұрын

I do!

@frankguan5044

5 жыл бұрын

You know that's from Jordan Peterson without guessing.

@ryanrodrigues6127

5 жыл бұрын

@@declanharp9633 rightly said.

@Pining_for_the_fjords

5 жыл бұрын

The pay of any job depends on the skill level involved, how needed the skill is, how rare it is, and how many people will benefit from it. Whether it's indoors or outdoors is irrelevant. Who is paid more, a surgeon or a bricklayer?

Where do I sign up for immigration?

This model looks very promising, other countries should also try to implement it!

To all the blabbering misogynists in the comments section... check out at 4:05 Happy now?! Men are getting more for the similar jobs

@philippevail320

3 жыл бұрын

“Similar” is not “same”. That seems be one of the issues here.

Shouldn't you compare women working outside to men working outside?

@liamleak1272

5 жыл бұрын

But that would produce accurate results and you know how liberals feel about those

@RPDBY

5 жыл бұрын

@@liamleak1272 I assume you mean leftist, not liberals..?

@kungydude9690

5 жыл бұрын

@@liamleak1272 lmfao that made me laugh. Yo whats the difference between a knife and a liberal?

@metolse475

5 жыл бұрын

What difference would that make? It would show that women made the more logical choice to get a more comfortable job inside. You see, a programmer or an engineer earns more than a builder for many reasons. It's embarassing for us men, why the fuck are we going for shitty, low paying jobs outside doing labour?

@renegade595

5 жыл бұрын

@@metolse475 ??? Outside jobs tend to be more paying becuase of the dangers and chance of death. Those jobs mainly being construction and factory. Yes they may be shitty but dafuq do you mean by low paying?

Amazing. Hope this happens in my country as well.

@na-zt4hj

3 жыл бұрын

I hope u are not a feminist

@goldenwings9902

3 жыл бұрын

@@na-zt4hj I am a feminist. But that doesn't mean I am a man hater. True feminists work for the upliftment of suffering and exploited women.

@jackjohnson6230

3 жыл бұрын

@@goldenwings9902 yeah at the expense of men feminist are hypocrites

Im so glad little girls are being encourgaed that they are enough and that they are so capable. Queens ✨💅

@tromboner6061

3 жыл бұрын

time stamp?

anyone who genuinely believes there is a significant paygap needs to educate themselves on why this 'gap' exists. it exists almost solely due to men (on average) taking higher paying jobs, working more hours, less flexible hours.

The comment section just shows how “equal” the entire world is 🙄

@heracrossz7701

3 жыл бұрын

?

That's great for Iceland, and I wish them the best of luck. But Iceland is a very rich and secular country with one of the smallest gender pay gaps on earth. Contrasted with other poorer far more religious countries which have far worse gender inequality. I don't think the solutions here will work for other countries which are in more desperate need of reform.

@NathansHVAC

5 жыл бұрын

But the BBC says Iceland is a Utopia.

@Daniel-ht4wr

5 жыл бұрын

@@smmm5559 the gender pay gap is not a myth, i had to write a paper on it for HR an I can assure you any serious academic recognises it as a fact because there is volumes of data proving it's existence. It's a global phenomenon with some countries like South Korea having the largest of any OECD country and countries like Iceland having the narrowest gap.

@smmm5559

5 жыл бұрын

here's a real economist u ideat

@smmm5559

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZp3pNWul7HFl5M.html

@AngelaMerici12

5 жыл бұрын

Really good comment but saying this things in a KZread comment is like giving pearls to pigs.

Yes the workers who work outside make more money than the workers who work inside. Why is that a problem? That isn't discrimination its fair pay. Working outside is harder, you have to deal with weather. If the women want to work outside they are free to do so as well.

@misosoppa3279

5 жыл бұрын

You clearly don't have a job in tech

@smmm5559

5 жыл бұрын

@@misosoppa3279 you clearly don't understand what he's talking about you ideat

@world-traveler880

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. You get equal pay for equal work. Working inside and working outside are different types of jobs with different pay.

@clickclackpow2730

5 жыл бұрын

Carl Rei Saito that was an interesting comment. What made you say that?

@burek4321

5 жыл бұрын

There is that and also woman work less. Like in my company we have young non-married woman working and you can clearly see they work less. Not because they are sick or something, but because they have to constantly go on holidays like bali, egypt, spain... There is a lot of factors in wage gap, but the media sees just one thing and that is money!

I’m curious if keeping them separate is actually helping. You would think keeping them all in the same class teaching them the same exact things would be more beneficial. Very interesting.

@cw6842

5 жыл бұрын

Its about teaching skills that go against what have already been ingrained unconsciously by their parents at birth. Or "unlearning". If all children are raised in a household that is 100% equal then sure, teach them the same.

@catherinet6024

5 жыл бұрын

I believe it does. I studied in a girls school for 12 years. Girls from girls schools tend to be more assertive, independent, empowered, and aggressive. When I went to a coed college, I had to “tone-down” my “strong personality”. Apparently being a girl meant that I’m suppose let the men dominate the conversations during group discussions. Sometimes I felt I had to suppress a part of myself to fit in with other girls who were more docile. I’m doing well professionally and I thank my girls school upbringing. One benefit is that most girls from girls schools tend to succeed professionally since we’re more assertive and decisive than other women. Around 60% from my graduating class work in managerial positions.

@wb8695

5 жыл бұрын

@@catherinet6024 I wholeheartedly believe in your experience. I too have studied in an all girl's school. While I think co-ed has its time and benefits, but especially in the earlier year it's important to give the girls a chance to discover their own identity without comparing and competing for boys. I was shocked when I learned that in supposedly advanced countries like the US, girls are expected NOT to excel in math and science as these fields are seen as more masculine (mind you I grew up in Saudi which is terrible for women on so many levels). Learning in an all girls school, science subjects were simply considered (harder) in general for all students regardless of gender.

@keirarogan454

5 жыл бұрын

@@catherinet6024 Obviously it's different from everyone, but I've always been in a co-ed environment and I have friends who initially went to an all-girls college and I would say that I am probably more or similarly confident and assertive. In fact, in discussions I've had with said friends they actually said they feel more insecure and uncertain around men because they don't have the experience. Maybe it's a cultural/generational/education system difference? Was your all girls school private? Because that is another factor: students from public education tend to have less confidence and assertiveness than privately educated students, on average.

@catherinet6024

5 жыл бұрын

Keira Rogan Keira Rogan I went to a Catholic girls school in Manila. Even public school girls here are assertive and that might be a cultural thing since women are highly valued in Philippine society. Growing up in a country that ranks high on gender equality and gender parity was amazing (The Philippines ranks 8th in the world and is the only Asian country in the top 10). In fact, I never felt being a woman was a disadvantage until I studied college abroad in the US. American men seem to have a hard time taking me seriously in business, a 5’1” skinny Asian woman. The sexism and heightism I’ve experienced in the American workplace left me frustrated so I went back to Manila where I was able to quickly rise up the corporate ladder.

The pay gap is NOT between men and women, it is between mothers and non mothers. Taking several months out to have a baby means the mothers career doesn't advance as a non mothers career would. Iceland and I think Kenya have a greater equality because they have a better paternity leave system, meaning both parents can share the responsibility and both their careers suffer less.

@pfmcoop

5 жыл бұрын

Rwanda, not Kenya

@briankinyanjui2424

3 жыл бұрын

Uliskia wapi ati Kenya? Translation: Who told you about Kenya?

omg the taking risks part made me smile 1:55 that is DEFINITELY something i REALLY struggle with

Glad to watch that finally there are people out there who've been taking initiative to reduce or vanish this age-old gender inequality, and the best part is that they've been doing this at a grassroot level by teaching students👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

One of the factors that makes it easier is that Iceland is a relatively small country and their culture isnt necessarily tied to the religious and cultural beliefs many SEA countries have

@moisesbeyond

2 жыл бұрын

small and full of white european people you forgot to mention

The US doesn't have parental leave for everyone.

all the people here are going about talking that unequal wages makes sense since men are working outside in harsh conditions , and women inside in warm environment , but that's just an example of a work that has been shown in the video there are numerous other jobs , where there are the same environmental conditions but a difference in wages . and ONE IMPORTANT THING TO ADD HARSH CONDITIONS DOESNT DETERMINE THE PAY , AS YOU SEE , IN DEFENCE SERVICES , MEN OF LOWER RANKS , WHO ARE PUT FRONT DURING WAR , THEY HAVE LESS PAY , WHERE AS THE OFFICERS WHO PLAN FROM A SAFER PLACE AND GIVE ORDERS ARE PAID MORE BECAUSE OF THEIR RANK , HARSH CONDITIONS AND RISKS OF DYING ARE MORE FOR THE LOWER RANK MEN BUT STILL THE WAGE SYSYTEM IS NOT QUESTIONED , ITS NOT THE CONDITIONS BUT THE EXECUTION THAT MAKES THE DIFFERNCE.@james von maxwell

way to go Iceland! don't give up, keep it going...show this world that equality is not that far & difficult.

The best place to be a woman is having white skin.

@awts..7954

3 жыл бұрын

It's a nordic country Not every country is as diverse as the us

go Iceland! we need more place like that..

Now I kinda want to move here when I get older....

So, how is Iceland dealing with inequality in family court, suicide stats, homlessness stats...

@worldgamingseries3155

5 жыл бұрын

+ 90% of workers that die during work are men

@jayc342009

5 жыл бұрын

So long as the whaaamenz are okay then all is good right? Gynocentricm prevails...

@myklagenfurt

5 жыл бұрын

I live in Austria, a few years back I wanted to extent my wifes (and mother of my children) visa. The women at the immigration office wasn´t very happy that I didn’t meet all the requirements (only money counts in my country. You even can buy austrian citisenship). In the end, she told me that she doesn’t support my application because I need to meet all the requirements, it’s not that I am a young woman. I understood it this way; if I would be a young lady, she would understand that I can’t meet the requirements. But I am a men and thats why I have to meet all requirements. In my country, men have to respect womens right but in the same time face such things not only from women but also from men and the law. (Austrian law gives a lot of freedom to immigration officers, that’s why you have cases where Government workers fiances get permanent citizenship after one year and not only after 6 years like ordinary people).

@nataliaostap

5 жыл бұрын

The same way as with gender inequality.

@blanca6434

5 жыл бұрын

I'd actually like to know more about that as well. It's an aspect of gender equality that many countries neglect.

4:50 you are saying that employees who work outside in cold Icelandic temperatures doing hard labour and making plant more profitable should be paid the same as staff inside in warm doing medium hard labour almost injury free (compared to outside work)?

@davidcooks2379

3 жыл бұрын

@Azar Huseynli well, the question is, would you then switch from working in construction to working as a cleaner. They are trying to distort the market so that women feel more rewarded for what they do, but as a side effect, more men could switch to traditional female jobs. If this works, then stereotypes will be broken. If it doesn't work, then at least women are rewarded properly. If a guy doesn't want to do cleaning while working inside and being paid the same as if he was doing hard work outside, then he will be punished for his pride, and that's fair

If they were going to actively fight gender stereotypes, they wouldn't be paying their (mostly female) indoor workers more to bring their wages up to the level of their (mostly male) outdoor workers. They'd be transferring half the women in the building to go work outdoors and half the outdoor guys to do the comfy indoor work

In Iceland there is no preference for women, not really, there is a better place to be a human being, where a grudge does not arise between people because of their gender or any other 'major' difference.

Magic place for magic life ! I'm sure. Touching video ! Thank You dear The Economist !

They’re going to be shocked when they travel to other countries when they’re older i am raising my kids there

So I just got informed by email that my comment here in this video was removed by KZread. I don't even remember what it was.

To the arguments that say that outdoor workers should get paid more; the video states that the decision was made based on a point system. So, for example, considering the weather conditions the outdoor workers would get a point and considering say unconventional working hours (the cleaners would have to wait till everyone has left to finish cleaning) the indoor workers would get a point. So, at the end of the day they would both have a point each (therefore equal pay), but for different attributes of their work. Outdoor labour might be more physically intense, but, referring back to my hypothetical, at the end of the day they would go home in time for dinner and help their kids with their homework afterward. While that will not be the case for the indoor workers who get home after their kids are in bed. So, there's always an opportunity cost and it's a trade off. This is just my perspective and two cents. I'm not here to argue, just contribute to the discussion. Thanks for making it to the end of this comment! Cheers!

The best place to be a woman!? I'm pretty sure it's not on Earth.

the real problem is that men think women either dont have any financial responsibilities in life or have fathers and husbands who support them. But women are no longer supported by husbands and women have to pay the same amount as men to have a car, to have somewhere to live but are paid less. A woman's dental care costs the same as a man's. A landlord or a dentist does not give a woman a discount because she is a woman. In addition, women have to spend more money than men .. not only on makeup and hairdressers but also for precautionary safety measures like taking a taxi home late at night. I am not so sure that the erasure of masculine and feminine is good. A neutral world seems unexciting and bland to me. But companies need to realize that women are working to pay their bills and have the same very real financial obligations as men do.

Every country should take this approach.

What is that mean: unskilled workers? Is in it that for any kind of task to be completed you need some level of specific skills?

@dmitryr9613

4 жыл бұрын

Here's the definition: Unskilled labor is used to refer to a segment of the workforce associated with a limited skill set or minimal economic value for the work performed. Unskilled labor is generally characterized by a lower educational attainment, such as a high school diploma, GED or lack thereof, and typically results in smaller wages. Basically, it's labor that doesn't require a specific education or work experience, and therefore usually has lower wages.

@davidcooks2379

3 жыл бұрын

Some level that can be obtained from just looking at how others do this job for a day. Fruit pickers, cleaners, anything mechanical really.

they sound so well spoken and articulate. Kudos

I believe that if they are both working in the same environment, either inside or outside, and are doing the same jobs exactly, then there should be equal pay regardless of gender.

The best place to be a woman is silicon valley. Since few of us want to be engineers, there's a 2:1 ratio of men to women here. All my girlfriends are dating guys that are twice as attractive and twice as educated as themselves. You can have you pick here!

Wow! Raising a generation of soy boys and celebrating it too

I love this! ❤️

Best Iceland ad I've ever seen I want to move there now!!

Why companies don't employ just women if they are at least 6% cheaper than men then?

Great work by Iceland ! 🙂

Why is comment section so toxic everyone is insulting every other person. How can a positive video have such a bad response.

@indrinita

3 жыл бұрын

Because misogynists hate the idea of women being seen as people.

@awts..7954

3 жыл бұрын

@@indrinita i don't even see any of them in this comment section

@indrinita

3 жыл бұрын

@@awts..7954 guess you're blind then

@awts..7954

3 жыл бұрын

@@indrinita bruh i am lol

@Marcos-hf4cz

3 жыл бұрын

@@indrinita Oh so now masculine traits are People traits? We Are complaining that men are being enmasculated,its not about women but about men, men are biologically different from women that's a fact, so basically they are denying their masculinity

Do the indoor jobs and outdoor jobs have the same demands both in difficulty and applicants? If you compare unskilled jobs in comfortable safe environments to those in uncomfortable unsafe environments they should have different amounts of people applying.

As a woman I found that what is blocking me from the higher education is help with a learning disability that happens more in males there for there is less help available for my kind of learning disability ( reading disability) because it affects more males

Your doing great, Iceland

I agree on anything in this video except for this one 05:20 , if it comes to unskilled jobs, we must get paid according to the power we use to work, not because we give more value traditionally male dominated jobs, we can't pay the same price for cleaning service jobs and piping and fitting jobs, that's unfair, the risk and the power used in both jobs are different.

Why is there so many dislikes on this video? Is it not true that Iceland is the best place for a woman?

Fantastic!!!! that there is a nation willing to pursue a holistic, positive and kind thinking! May we all follow this example to create a peaceful and united world! all the people in this video are super cute, wow i think i will want to relocate to Iceland :):)

Yeah take out abrahamitic religions and maybe we have a starting point!

@tom5110

3 жыл бұрын

Shut up Von RAT

0:35 haha thats not true. life is always unfair

The reason why the workers outside and inside were paid different is because the outside workers are doing more physical and exhausting work while the inside workers are doing less physically demanding jobs. Its not about “unconscious bias” its about the work you are willing to do and how long you are willing to do it.

In Canada, THERE IS a paternity leave, at least in the province of Québec, and in addition, a parental leave which can be shared or not depanding of the parents' decision. No salary from the employer, but a wage from the government.

I love Iceland. One of the happiest places on earth . I don't know what kinda research is conducted on these kids . Why isn't paternity leave given to fathers in other countries..it is just ridiculous . But , workers outside regardless of gender , needs more money in compensation for their risk?. That's understandable...

Iceland I'm coming...

I think it isn't only about wages but also treatment. Equal ain't always fair

Respect to Iceland 🇮🇸

Cute babies Great idea Beautiful country

Why Iceland such an amazing place

Surely as a worker you would want to earn the most money possible - if outside pays more; why would you want to work inside?

People talk about hate comments and people trolling like something new, It was always there, social media wasn’t popular enough for people to notice.

I wonder if they have any modelling agencies in Iceland...

@obsidianstatue

5 жыл бұрын

of course they do, and I can bet you 100 dollars that female models gets paid several times more than male models.

@rainbowflowerpower4464

5 жыл бұрын

obsidianstatue actually I would assume that since there are less male models then they would be in higher demand than female models and they would be paid more

@obsidianstatue

5 жыл бұрын

@@rainbowflowerpower4464 nope, there is a lower demand for male models THUS fewer male models in the industry, lower demand also means lower pay, this is simple economics, something modern feminists don't believe in.

@plokijuh5830

5 жыл бұрын

@@obsidianstatue MJ Fan is probably right. The lower demand for male models probably does not offset the far lower supply, thus increasing the relative wage they earn in comparison to female models. After all, women cannot model male clothes or appear in advertisements for products meant mainly for male demographics.

@rainbowflowerpower4464

5 жыл бұрын

Royal Satan Europe produces the most models out of all countries, if a model gets into a European modelling industry then she pretty much set

I would love to live in island!

I live in Sweden, and once my class listend to an audiobook of the never ending story made by the radio of Sweden (or similar) and they had gender swapped the old man in the bookshop, Atreju, and the dragon.

In the philippines, gender gap is not much of an issue bacause regardless of gender, people are generally underpayed.

Nothing can sum up the whole situation presently in the world as portrayed by the comment section that those who have been in power will always be reluctant to give it up. They will try to resist it with all force, ideologies, facts they can so just everything still remains convenient to them but that leads to another question- what about the next generation. Will they be still facing the same issues?

@1wun1

4 жыл бұрын

Because power isn't given, it's taken.

That is it. I am moving to iceland. Now who's with me?

Dear Economist, I need your permission to translate this 🥺 please

loved akk the great ideas from all the asspects hope this will spread to all country

Wow. Just wow. A role model nation indeed.

@na-zt4hj

3 жыл бұрын

No needed. We don't want feminist country like Iceland. I'm from Bangladesh

@na-zt4hj

3 жыл бұрын

@@divyanshchouhan4567 But feminism is bad. It's ok to give girls their rights. But Iceland is feminist bcoz here women are given more rights than man. I don't like that.

I want to live in iceland now

This seems really good. I'm interested to see the results of this. Here are my thoughts: If extreme gender stereotypes affect people and society badly, then challenging them seems like a reasonable way to stop those negative effects. In the video they speak of people growing up stuck in behaviors they've based on their own identity which is partly founded on prejudice and social norms about how certain genders act. On that point I agree that a person that can adapt without any excuses that are based on their identity, and that also has an understanding for other people's judgmental behavior, is probably someone who is more capable and more valuable to society. Science seems to show that it is working: Amazing keep doing it then! Kids get better understanding of gender equality: Seems like they learned something about being human, cool. The government works to expose and tackle the gender pay gap: Whether or not the gender pay gap exists, that is great, because it means the whole society of Iceland is contributing to probably the greatest study(?) about whether pay gaps are justified or unjustified and if so how much. To get this right, the government, the companies and the people needs to keep track of the relevant criteria though. personally I don't know which the criteria are or how they are scientifically measured, and there is a risk to miss what is relevant at first. But I hope that the people that are being unjustly judged by the system chooses to speak up and revolt so that there is incentive to keep their criteria relevant and accurate. Companies are forced by law to choose who to hire based on facts rather than bias, they will more accurately get what they pay for. People are less unjustly treated, which should bring away bad morale, negativity and spitefulness. The only losers I see are companies that right now pays less than they should for the work they get by their workforce.

@Marcos-hf4cz

3 жыл бұрын

Those gender stereotypes are biological traits,or are you going to tell me that testosterone doesn't make you physically stronger and braver for example?

The jobs mentioned are clearly not equally valuable the "score" system deliberately skews the results by cherry-picking the judging criteria and ignoring many relevant factors such as danger (risk of injury etc) as well as unsociable hours as well as such basic concepts such as the supply and demand of the jobs the video also fails to mention that Iceland has 3X the European average suicide rate. With the school, they mentioned having several issues with student suicide and for the nation, as a whole the male suicide rate is 16X that of the female rate and that even pre covid the Icelandic suicide rate had been climbing for several years.

Please, I love The Economist, especially for its clarity, but when they discuss comparing unskilled men's job that are mainly outside, with unskilled women's job that are mainly inside, they do not make the comparison clear. Is the location (inside v outside) a factor in the pay discrepancy or not?

@fransmith3255

3 жыл бұрын

The question is, "Should it be a factor?"

I love the school master shes so cool

There is corruption in Iceland or not?/

If I understood everything correctly, that unskilled woman working inside (kitchen, cleaning) wants to get the same salary as an unskilled men working outside. But it is not equal job! Why wouldn't she take a position of those who work outside to get more? For 6%... as being said in the video.