Excellent reviews to the point with no vocal padding. A Man speaking from experience.

Great advice thanks again for the tips and advice on portrait lens

I own the 105mm F2DC and the 180mm F2.8D. Hands down the best two portrait lenses.

@CaseyCJL

5 жыл бұрын

How would you compare to the tamron 70-200 g2 at 180mm? do you think they would be similar?

@WorpleDorple

4 жыл бұрын

@@CaseyCJL not him, but the 180 would be sharper. There's no comparison, really. 180 wide open is always going to perform better than a zoom (even the nikon ones).

@86oldcold

Жыл бұрын

I have the 180mm. Great portrait lens. I just got the 105 F2. I'm excited to see how it performs!

Just what I was looking for...Shukran

Thanks foe your considered appraisal of the lenses.

Great review! I am thinking about getting the 105mm f2 dc. You did not feature it in your video although I heard you mentioning it.

I love my 85mm F1.4G for portraits, but my all-time favorite is my 200mm F2 VR2.....if you have the space (and $$$), it is an amazing portrait lens that's on a whole other level.

@frankluo230

4 жыл бұрын

Not to carry around especially somewhere more than 15min walk from car park

Hey, can you show how to start a ceram wrap ball?

i cant see the 180mm f2.8 ? you might say the 200mm f2 but what about the price ? $800 vs $5600 ?

Hi there i'm new to the channel and new in photography for about 2 months, from the start i would like to thank you for educate the viewers , personally i use a D3400 dx DX camera ,( my first DSLR camera with i absolutely love ), i have only the 18-55 3.5-5.6 G VR kit lens, my question is what lens you recommend for portraiture. If you have suggestions for other lenses used for other type of photography please explain, i really appreciate, thanks very much.

Please helpp!! What lenses is the best for stages and actors??

The old 105mm AIS are pretty poor lens wide open (the one that I use is). At 5.6f it is amazing.

Thank you for the wonderful video, for portrait I use mainly 2 lenses, Nikon 85mm 1.8G and Tamron 70-200mm 2.8 VC but I believe now Nikons newest lens is probably the best portrait lens for Nikon cameras the Nikon 105mm 1.4E

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

7 жыл бұрын

Yea, that new 105mm looks pretty awesome!

@wildone44.93

7 жыл бұрын

Amir E Look at the price first and I believe for all the cash your shelling out... made in China!!! Ouch!

Can't wait to pair the D500 with the 105mm shown here. 🙂👍

are you saying that 135 dc nikkor is essentially for outdoor portraits

great info!

For me you can't beat a good 50 1,4 for portraits, the 85 to me has a compressed unreal quality that looks portraity, I also think people use long portrait lenses to blow out the background as a crutch.

@archixmusic

5 жыл бұрын

It's a preference thing, some people like seeing bokeh some want the scenery blend in

@supernoodles908

3 жыл бұрын

I like a 50 1.8f if the background is nice personally. If the background isn't the best, I'll go to 1.4f

@jayerjavec

2 жыл бұрын

It's not about blowing out the bg. It's about anatomy and distortion. Telephoto lenses render better and more accurate results. 85mm is considered border, anything below will falsly render your subjects facial anatomy.

I just purchased a Sigma Art 50 mm 1.4 lens for my Nikon. I want to be able to do crisp small group shots and individual shots. I looked at the 85mm, but thought It needed to much distance to get a group of 4 or so in the image head to toe. It is my first Prime Lens and is producing good results after just 1 wk. I have a Sigma 18-250 mm. I can still exchange this lens for another option, do you think I should make a change?

@airb1976

7 жыл бұрын

Casa de Arcos Studios no!

For portraits, I use the following Nikkor lenses on full-frame Nikon F-mount cameras: 24mm for large group portraits 28mm for group portraits 35mm for group portraits and environmental portraits 50mm for full-length and 3/4 length portraits 85mm for half-length and head & shoulder portraits 105mm macro for head & shoulder, face shots, and tight face shots 135mm for face shots and tight face shots 180mm for face shots and tight face shots

can we throw the Nikon 180mm 2.8D in there

correction the 135 dc is f2

Thanks! I found this the most helpful of all KZread reviews on Nikon portrait lenses. I didn't have to struggle through the irritating, self-centered ramblings of another "Angry Photographer". Your presentation is unbiased, intelligent and informative.

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

7 жыл бұрын

Haha, thank you!

@wildone44.93

7 жыл бұрын

Willem Bezuidenhout I can't agree with you. You may not like AP style but he is far more technically knowledgeable. This reviewers mistake recommending the Nikon 105 macro for portraiture and talking about how sharp it is, when most in the know photographers acknowledge Tokina superior sharpness. The parrot photo wasn't impressive. This review sounded more like a advertisement for Nikon.

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

7 жыл бұрын

WildOne 44: It says right in the title that this is a video of the best NIKON portrait lenses. If you can't read and expected something else, then you're mistaken. I didn't "parrot" anything, these are my personal opinions after 20 years of shooting professionally, buying, testing and swapping gear almost continuously. I've shot 35mm, a variety of medium formats, and a few view cameras before the transition to DX digital and FX digital SLRs. I even shoot with my cell phone a lot. Angry photographer (I've seen nearly all his videos btw, some of them 2-3 times and have argued points with him after he commented a bunch of BS on my videos) never shows any results of his biased "Knowledge", at least none that anyone would pay him to print large and hang on a wall, and nearly no samples which makes me think he probably lacks an eye, and can only recommend lenses from what he thinks they are like. When he does show an image it's like a picture of a pine cone or something, you know just to "test" the lens, nothing creative with good composition, lest he be judged himself. He always touts the number of lenses he owns, to support his "expertise". He's told me in one comment he owns 14 lenses one time so he would "know better" than me, 25 another time, and 100 lenses one time. He can't seem to get it straight. For all I know, he probably borrows lenses from the used case at the camera store he worked at and they're not even his. I've got 13 lenses currently, and if I had 100, I don't think my kit would be any more complete. The number of lenses I own, have nothing to do with my knowledge of photography. I don't need seven 50mm lenses like I had at one point in time. AP's preconceptions are that having fewer lens elements is the gospel, and Ai-s lenses are the best, and cheaper lenses must be better. Things like sharpness wide open and chromatic aberration are inconsequential to him, but "saturation" is paramount, something that's easily adjusted in post or even in-camera. He also relates saturation and micro-contrast exclusively to how many lens elements a particular lens has (regardless of coating technology differences, glass type, or even the invention of computer aided design). He thinks that ED glass or fluorite or any "doped glass" as he calls it, is like a meat grinder to images, but it has no actual basis in reality. He thinks that more highly corrected optics destroy image quality. (Which is correct in only certain lenses) He thinks Zeiss Otus and Sigma Art lenses are crap, completely because of element count and "prior reputations" in the case of Sigma, which is hilarious to me since I've tested them and own some and know the differences. Zeiss and Sigma are fighting for #1 right now really. They've outpaced Nikon and Canon pretty easily. He thinks that Zeiss Milvus is a waste of money, and only recommends the older models downplaying any possible improvements to Milvus because he doesn't own them, yet they are exceptional lenses. He thinks that he alone is the only person with his breadth of experience and his arrogance won't allow him to consider another expert with equal experience to his, if not more in the field professionally. He's bashed other highly skilled and more accomplished photographers publicly and shamed them for their opinions. His opinion is very biased and full of unfounded preconceptions, and he reviews based on that, not actual real world use unfortunately. I've actually bought several lenses based on his high recommendation and had to laugh at their performance and at how much of a sucker I was, when I actually tested them next to modern equivalents. His "Must Own" lines got even me. That's the truth. But many sheep like yourself are swayed nonetheless and only "parrot" what he says to everyone else. There's no free lunch unfortunately. Hey, I know AP has been through some shit, and so have I, so I can sympathize with him and I kind of feel sorry for him. He might even be fun to get drunk with. I think he's a good knowledge-base for Ai-s lenses generally. His titles "MUST OWN" or "HAVE TO BUY NOW" or "Secret Lens" ect are pretty bogus though and are only designed to bring him views. Shoot what you like and I'll do the same. I just bought a 60 year old Rolleiflex film camera yesterday and I'll be having fun playing with that right now to change it up a bit from the digital workflow, probably shoot some vintage fashion. It's got a Zeiss lens with only about 5-6 elements, so AP should even like it, haha. It's all fun stuff. But good luck to you, and enjoy your Kool-aid! Maybe put some vodka in it next time! I enjoy a good debate. :)

@frankluo230

4 жыл бұрын

@@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy I respect your opinion but I do think AP knows what he talks about. Modern complex lens design destroys the character of lens, like 180ED ais135f2.8 ais105f2.5 Canon 35L or 135L they each has a unique feel almost no modern lens has. Sharp enough for portraiture? I think so. Not as sharp as something like Nikon 105F1.4? Of course not. Does it matter for portraiture even prints large? Not so much. Even an old ais lens outresolve a 36mp d810 easily. My two cents.

@joshmcdzz6925

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankluo230 you're absolutely right...

What do you want to claim?

It's all opinion really. I like the 105 DC and the 180 2.8 the best. The 200 F2 is a great lens but just ridiculously big and cumbersome but ok if you are on an organised shoot with a tripod. I just wish they had done an 85 DC and i would be wedded to Nikon for life.

straordinario!!

nikon dx - nikon 60mm macro d series. nikon fx - tokina 100mm macro, nikon 85mm f1.8g, nikon 105 mc dc and the 80-200 f2.8 ed （generally for outdoors.

@jamesjackson4264

6 жыл бұрын

Castiel Diallo I would agree with all except that heavy 80-200. It’s the best for sons but you are better off with a 180mm 2.8.

I will take 85/2.8 macro PC lens over 105 macro+135 DC for portrait work. Just wicked creative portrait work. 300/2.8 over 200/2 for portrait work ?

My top 5: 1. Nikkor 85mm G 2. Nikkor 60mm D Micro 3. Helios 44-3 (58mm) customized with 16 aperture blades. 4. Sigma 105mm with OS 5. 135mm or 105mm AI or AIS Random order.

No AFS 200mm 2.0 G ED VR2 ????

I think 85 would be better overall or 70-200 2.8 for portrait, unless you have lot of cash.

The most "wow" portrait lens, not only for me, is the 180mm 2.8. Of course, only for outdoors, in open locations.

@AngeloDau

7 жыл бұрын

well, it is outperformed by 200mm F2.0 in almost every feature

@xjuane

7 жыл бұрын

Mario Aguila Why only for outdoor? What if you have a big studio? (33 feet long or more)

@MazeMazeGaming

7 жыл бұрын

totally agree, that lens (180mm 2.8) is the love of my life, use it for basketball, american football, portrait, wildlife. etc. kills it all!

@MarioAguila

7 жыл бұрын

Angelo Dau Portability?

@jamesjackson4264

6 жыл бұрын

That lens is the best bang for buck lens in nikons arsenal.

From your experience, is the ability to autofocus when using long range lenses vital or it's easy to get used to focusing manually if the price difference is significant.

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

8 жыл бұрын

Not at all. Autofocus is only essential when shooting fast action, or moving subjects, like sports IMO. Manual focus can actually add something to photography I think. It feels good especially on lenses that were designed as manual focus lenses.

@STOG01

8 жыл бұрын

Good to hear)

Isn’t it true that a long lens like 200 and up, you can shot wide open and your whole subject is in focus and the background blurred? Where as you shot shorter then 200, then you have to stop down to like f4 to get the whole subject in focus but then the background is not as blurry.

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

6 жыл бұрын

It depends on your camera to subject distance and the depth of your subject. The longer lenses to tend to flatten the subject and render them in front of a blurred background, but it's not a rule. The depth of field you will have, is still always determined by your aperture, focal length and camera to subject distance. The fact that we don't have any 300mm f/1.4 lenses, means that for most people with a top prime, they'll still only have f/2.8, which is like stopping down a shorter f/1.4 prime two whole stops. A 200mm f/2 still has an ultra shallow DOF, so even with it wide open you'd be hard pressed to get your whole subject in focus unless you were very far away.

Great video. You said the nikkor 105mm micro was only a couple of hundred dollars but I'm finding they are around the $1100 AUD. Was that an error, or are you talking second hand lens?

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

6 жыл бұрын

I was talking about an old used 105mm ais lens. There was an f/2.5 and an f/2.8 version. The f/2.8 lens will be cheaper.

Hi Clint, Thank you for this video. I'm a beginner to photography and have the Nikon d7200. So far for portraits, I've been using the 50 1.8 G which has been great. However, I'm looking to get a longer lens for portraits and candids of my son when outside. Longer as to not disturb him in the activity he his doing so that shot becomes more natural. I'm considering the 105 Micro or the 135 DC. I realize a lot of people (including yourself) might find the these FLs long for portraiture and candids on DX but as said, the longer distance serves the purpose of not disturbing my son. Also, I'll most like move to FX some time. Now, you say you can shoot the 105 wide open and that it is sharp at 2.8. But like al macro lenses, the aperture is stopped down automatically, so how far do you need to be from the subject on DX and FX in order for the 105 to stay wide open at 2.8? I may want to shot the ocassional macro so the 105 has an advantage here. The sigma 105 macro is much cheaper. Have you tried that one? The 135 appeals to me too, but I've heard it has a lot of fringing / CA that is difficult to correct in post? If lens profiles take care of this automatically, then no problem. But if correcting must be done manually and is a time consuming, tedeous process... then? And what's the resolution like on the 135 DC being an older lens? Hope you will be able to help me out. The Sigma 150-600C is the most expensive lens I have ever bought so far, so going with either the 105 or 135 is a big outlay for me. Cheers,

How about 1.8 50mm? I am just a new learner with D7200

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

7 жыл бұрын

That'll get you started! Typically a 50mm is good for full length portraits, but on a DX camera like the D7200, it'll be a decent short portrait lens to learn on.

This is now an older video, but I think it still holds up well.....bonus: some of these lenses are pretty reasonably priced now. (under 500 used for the 85 and the 105). Also, the 85 D lens is around 400 used, and might be worth considering, though the S lens is mighty attractive for the same money. Good video.

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yes, it depresses me to see the used prices of the older F mount lenses. Especially since I've got a few top Zeiss one's to sell still and probably lose thousands on them. Best lens I've ever used, has a mount that nobody wants now.

@bradmiller9993

Жыл бұрын

@@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy The good news is that those old F mount lenses can easily be adapted to any mirrorless; I think they will still hold a lot of value for a long time.

I own the 85mm 1.8G and the 180mm 2.8ED, I must say I've gone through so many lenses before settling for these two. I do have the Tokina 100mm 2.8 macro.

@princet8088

3 жыл бұрын

Just bought a 180mm 2.8ed. can't wait.

@LMoProVisualComm

3 жыл бұрын

@@princet8088 awesome!! Please come back and let me know what you think

@princet8088

3 жыл бұрын

@@LMoProVisualComm will do. Of the 3 lenses you mentioned, which produces the best image? I hope it's the 180 ,😁

@LMoProVisualComm

3 жыл бұрын

@@princet8088 Great Question... and I'll say that when you have great glass it's difficult to say what is best. here we have 3 different focal lengths. So it easy to say "BEST IS RELATIVE TO WHAT" your working situation will determine what you need to get the BEST!!! So my conclusion from testing in various conditions it that the 180mm 2.8 will give you the BEST!!! COMPRESSION and BACKGROUND SEPARATION... the Nikon 85mm 1.8 has been the best portrait lens for me... and this Tokina is the best double edge sword (macro/portrait). in a controlled situation the 100mm 2.8 has be exceptional producing ZERO chromatic abberation I cannot pick one over the over because I need them for my workflow... I will say that the (2) nikons 85/180 produces better color than the Tokina. but we can adjust color in post right... So that you'll know why I won't pick one it's because they all complete my lens line up and are used often in my work. MY LINE-UP NIKON 20mm 1.8G TAMRON 35mm 1.4 TAMRON 45mm 1.8 VC NIKON 85mm 1.8G TOKINA 100mm 2.8 Macro NIKON 180mm 2.8ed if you're trying to decide which one to get: I'm going to ask WHAT DO YOU NEED IT FOR AND WHAT ARE YOUR CURRENT LENS NOW?

@princet8088

3 жыл бұрын

@@LMoProVisualComm well I have the 180 2.8 on the way (excited). All I have now is a 35 1.8g. I mainly want to shoot street photography type stuff, mostly of people. Hope the af is decent on the 180 for moving subjects. I was looking at also getting the 60mm 2.8d Nikkor. Lenses that were recommended by angry photographer. Appreciate the reply again, I can't wait to get my 180 😁

Which one is best for headshots / portraits?

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

2 ай бұрын

Either the 105mm or 135mm would work well for headshots, IMO.

great video , perhaps next time write the full name of the lenses in subtitles or write them here on comments

The sigma 135 1.8 is my dream lens to be honest

@capoboghikian5595

4 жыл бұрын

Me too😧

Hi! I am looking to buy a Nikon d7200 or d7500 camera and need a lens or lenses mainly for outdoor and indoor portraits but one/s that would do a great job at weddings and concerts too. What you are presenting above sounds really good so would you recommend any of them still or is there another that works really good on all these points? Thank you!

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

6 жыл бұрын

Well, since I don't know your budget, I'll assume it's inline with your camera choices. A Nikon 85mm f/1.8g lens will be very nice and on the long side of portraits. (127.5mm in FX terms) It'll give you great blur and sharpness though. A 50mm f/1.4G will do nicely as well and be like a 75mm (in full-frame terms since you're buying a DX sensor camera). The 50mm would do great all around, but the 85mm will give you more blur and depth compression for some wow portraits. 50mm would let you work in closer. Both are great. Good luck!

Zeiss 135 F2 - epic portrait lens. Agree on the 105 Macro, it takes great portraits too. I love the 85mm 1.4g - great for half or three quarter length shots.

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, I agree, I own the Zeiss 135mm as well. This video was specifically about Nikon portrait lenses though.

I like the Tamron 85mm IS because of the image stabilization. This makes a big difference. It’s cheaper as well. The only trouble I’ve had is chromatic aberration on some of he images, but this is simple and quick to correct in post.

@4Sandrix

Жыл бұрын

yeah but Tamron is f1.8. f1.4 makes a quite significant difference.

great explanation except the tokina 100mm is also very sharp wide open and it has less optical elements

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

7 жыл бұрын

The Tokina isn't as sharp wide open as the Nikkor. I've compared exstensively. It has a lot of CA wide open too. Everything improves a lot by f/5.6 but this video is specifically about portrait lenses from Nikon, not macros. The Nikkor macro makes a great portrait lens with exceptional bokeh. As a pure tripod mounted macro, the Tokina is probably a better choice, no doubt. The 85mm f/1.8 is a very nice lens too.

@jamesjackson4264

6 жыл бұрын

Another dang fine lens. Probably the only lens outside of nikons camp worth it’s weight in salt.

@ryswe

6 жыл бұрын

Clint the Audio Guy finally I see someone else acknowledge the chromatic abberation issue with the tokina, I wasn't impressed personally. Purple color shift on my copy was horrendous

@us1091

6 жыл бұрын

should try Nikon 105mm f1.8 ais , its sharper than Tokina

juan oh five

There are so many professional photographers that say the tokina is a much better lens then the 105macro form Nikon. I have the tokina and I much say it is better and better built. I've even seen videos of the top 10 macro lens and Nikon doesn't even make the list but tokina does. And it's a LOT cheaper in price.

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

7 жыл бұрын

If only I had a dime for every time someone told me that... The Tokina is a fine lens and a bargain at it's price...But, there are advantages that the Nikkor has over it making it a better choice for portraiture. Those advantages being resolution and CA performance wide open, creamier background blur rendering, silent/fast AF-S focusing, VR stabilization, and far greater working distance at 1:1, something that is critical for macro work. The Tokina is a fine macro lens and probably the better choice if tripod mounted macro work is your exclusive use, since it is a bit sharper and more contrasty at middle apertures, but the Nikon 105mm VR is a better all-around lens, and superior for portraits. A lot of people pump up the Tokina merely because it costs much less. I have compared them intently. That said, for Macros I'm looking to Zeiss next... which probably won't be the greatest portrait lens. All lenses are compromises, since this was a video on portrait lenses, that's why the Nikkor VR lens was included, because it's a great portrait lens.

@toddroy9558

7 жыл бұрын

Well if your looking at zeiss next, let us know what you think of the Otus 85mm 1.4 and the zeiss 85mm planar T f1.4 zf2, I hear they are really good, I would to know which one is the better choice. Thanks for your reply

@joshmcdzz6925

2 жыл бұрын

@@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy the CA on the Nikon is more irritating than the tokina...the tokina and sigma macro are the most balanced and best 105mm f2.8 macro lens for the F mount you can pick up... I prefer the tokina cuz it's also very sharp for landscape (focus to infinity)...the Nikon was very very disappointing to me... i kinda wonder if you really compared both... Checkout photographylife and kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKShscmqYtmto7w.html... for proof online and I can attest to same from my personal experience. Also DXOMARK

You missed the best of them all and thats the 105 f2.5 Ai with integral lens hood. Manual focus and a small jewel. Even in an interview this year, Steve McMurray says its the best and the Afghan Girl is testament. You can get one for $300.

@paganphil100

2 жыл бұрын

Technik Meister: You can get them much cheaper that $300.....they are quite common and easy to find on ebay or in many camera stores that sell pre-owned lenses.

@myblueandme

Жыл бұрын

true

The Samayng 135mm f2 is razor sharp and much more affordable. That said , just buy a Tamron 70 - 200mm g2 , it does all the above in one package

@gakosun

5 жыл бұрын

What's your take on the new Sigma 70 - 200mm f/2.8 Sport in comparison to Tamron 70 - 200mm G2?

105 micro? Strange. 105dc is the prefered for most of photographers out there in 105 focal distance

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

7 жыл бұрын

Yep, I've owned them both but now have the 135DC instead. I put the 105mm VR lens in because it is very under rated for portraits and is a very good portrait lens with particularly creamy bokeh even at medium apertures. The 105 DC lens is very sharp but it has a bit more CA than the VR lens wide open so most people stop it down some. The VR lens can be used wide open just fine. With the addition of VR, it's usefull in low light as well. It's the budget option in this group, but I felt the need to include it. Is a purist portrait lens the DC is probably the better option, but the VR lens is more flexible as a all-arounder.

That 300mm is pure sex, but price is scary. Not something a hobbiest should ever consider, unless they are loaded.

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

7 жыл бұрын

It's a labor of Love my man. It took me probably 12-13 years before I could afford a used one, and then I had to make payments. Even then I started with used 25 year old Ai-S versions before I could venture into the newer auto-focus ones. Still haven't gone VR on a super-tele yet, and I've never bought one new, haha.

Ever heard of Sigma Art series 85mm 1,4?????

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, for sure. But this is a video about NIKON portrait lenses. I've got Zeiss and Sigma Art lenses also.

AF-S 105mm f1.4 and AF-S 200mm f2 ... stop!

@billmoyer3254

7 жыл бұрын

horrible choices

@wildone44.93

7 жыл бұрын

Bruce Maddox Like a Nikon add?

macro lens rendering is not optimal for portraiture...basic info

Very informative but you say creamy too much.

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

5 жыл бұрын

Mmm, creamy...

3:45 he said; "Smaller apertures" when he means larger aperture. What a dork. "stop up" LOL!

"The primes offer some better performance..." but do you know WHY? You selection of lenses recommended in this video lead me to believe you do not. So, WHY is a prime better than a zoom?

For anyone watching this; Everything mentioned in this video is true for Full frame sensor bodies. On the crop sensor body the 50mm f1.4 is much better than 85mm for portraits, as it's an equivalent of 75mm on full frame (50x1.5=75) so if you're on APS-C sensor don't waste your money on 85mm just get 50mm 1.4G lens.

@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy

Жыл бұрын

I did really used to love my 50mm f/1.4G lens. Light, relatively reasonable, and sharp as a razor when stopped down a bit. Not much correction needed.