Watched your video as we are considering a new video doorbell. You sir are very helpful and articulate! We loved how you show the manufacturer’s instructions and then demonstrate them. Nice job!

Wow! Thank you, Terry! You did an absolutely wonderful job of going through everything for the installation of the Google Nest Hello doorbell. I watched your video in its entirety as a preview, and then paused it as I went through the steps again during my own installation. You lifted all the stress off my shoulders as I found your helpful explanations and demonstrations to be spot-on. I just can’t thank you enough, Terry!

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Well you just made my day much better too! Thanks Todd!

Great tutorial!! I followed step by step and it was very helpful! 🙂

So useful, it looked intimidating, but I’ll definitely do this later in the week

Awesome tutorial. Thank you sir -

Good instructional vid, your hands were out of the way, clear and precise, good work.

Very useful! Thank you 👍🏼

Thanks! Great video! Very easy to follow!

Great tutorial on how to install the Google nest hello doorbell. Just purchased one very helpful. Thanks 👍👍

@theinternetelectrician

4 жыл бұрын

Thank-you for watching!

@JohnLBeck

3 жыл бұрын

No. In fact I didn’t put the cover back on. It’s like the doorbell is dead.

@fattyfatty4484

3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was wireless hook up man I gatta bring it back uhh

I did it!!! Thank you so much Terry!! Amazing job!! Thank you again!! 😊💝

@theinternetelectrician

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! And for taking the time to comment. Much appreciated!

Great video! Thank you for doing this.

@theinternetelectrician

4 жыл бұрын

Thank-you Shara!

This is really good . Thanks .

Thank you very much for this exceptionally helpful video, Mr. Peterman!! Well done!

@theinternetelectrician

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, and for taking the time to comment!

Great Video, followed it and everything work ! Thanks,

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Well done Terry. That was very helpful.

@theinternetelectrician

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Is this one of the two David Bennetts that I know personally?

Thank you for the install and setup video. I will be installing a Nest Hello soon and I had questions that thanks to you I believe have the answers now. Thanks again.

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help! Tell Nest you liked my video! I need another unit to install in my new home. Left that one in Arizona! #NestHello :-)

@eddelgado2171

3 жыл бұрын

@@theinternetelectrician Hello Terry, I am in Arizona and my home was built in 2015. My question: When I hook up my Nest video camera/doorbell, and turn power back on my door bell just keeps blabbering on/off without even the nest hello power adapter being hooked up. I have the type of bell that plays somewhat of a melody. Thanks in advance, any tips would help.

Excellent tutorial! Very detailed. Much better than Nest tutorial.

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Thank-you! Tell the folks at #GoogleNest to send me another one in exchange for me helping their customers. I need one at my new house :-)

Great Tutorial

Great install video! Thank you.

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Good job, worked out fine

You do a great job!

Thanks for the video...very helpful!

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!I would appreciate it if you like, subscribe, and click the bell as well (if you already did, thanks!) It really helps us creators gain traction with KZread.

Hi Terry, great video. I have the exact same setup (chime style, transformer, etc), except for the double wires. However, when I made these installations, the chime box had a buzz and eventually one of the chime posts popped off. I also noticed a smell, as if something was burning. I turned off the power and disconnected the wires. No clue what to do from here though! Any suggestions??

Thank you for useful video

The best Nest Hello tutorial f all.

شكراً لك 👍🏻

Thanks for outlining all the steps. Why do you need to locate the transformer since we are not making any wiring change there? My door bell has both a front and a back button. If I replace the front one with a Nest, will the back one still work?

@Detroitblue

4 жыл бұрын

You might find that you have to check the voltage or wiring for some reason. But is this case he could have skipped that step.

Great tutorial. What router do use?

Exactly what I needed!

@theinternetelectrician

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I hope that you also subscribed to my channel, and clicked the bell? Much appreciated!

I just got a nest hello as a gift. I'll be installing it this weekend using your video but I was curious if the nest connect is needed because I dont have one of those. You mentioned it at 17: 29. Thoughts?

Thanks for the informative video. I also live in AZ near PHX. How is the unit withstanding the heat? I'm always concerned about the brutal summer heat will fry the unit.

@theinternetelectrician

5 жыл бұрын

So far so good! It's never in direct sunlight and on the north side of the house so that helps.

Oh lord, Terry! Oh, lord! Great video, Terry.

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Made for a great start to my day!

Great video, thank you. Can you please add a little bit about using the wedge bracket that came with the camera. How to install and when needed. Thanks

@theinternetelectrician

5 жыл бұрын

You just use the wedge as a back plate and on the angel required to best see the person at the door. As in my example, if the button was closer to the door then I would have needed it to get a better angle to where a person would likely stand while waiting.

@bh9262

5 жыл бұрын

@@theinternetelectrician Yes, thank you. I had already figured it out, but no one had a demonstration of the bracket that I could find when trying to install it. Thank you for responding.. Great video..

@craignicholson7325

4 жыл бұрын

If you can't locate your transformer could you check the voltage on the doorbell wires? Or maybe the voltage across trans and front door while the button is pressed?

Yes, I know how to install the first one from your tutorial , need help with connecting the second Nest doorbell to the same chime..many thanks

@theinternetelectrician

4 жыл бұрын

I think it would work to just follow the steps for connecting to the chime unit, but using the rear doorbell terminal for the second unit. Then parallel connections on the 2 units for the common connections. I would reach out to NEST however to confirm if this will work or not before purchasing.

@HsingSun

3 жыл бұрын

@@theinternetelectrician To do the installation of the second Nest Hello, you need to upgrade the transformer. My first Nest Hello works. But, I have to relocate to further upfront since I built the front porch. In addition, I have to pre wire for the second Nest Hello.

Thank you

How has the Nest Hello faired in your hot weather? Has it survived? Where I am in Texas and where I would put the door bell it would get quite a bit of sun and temps go from 33 degrees to 80 degrees during the winter. Summer we can get to 100 easy.

Very helpful

Excellent Tutorial, thank you. How to install a second Nest Hello Doorbell....?? Best

@theinternetelectrician

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Atif. You are looking to install another on another access door?

May I ask why you had to locate the transformer? Unless I missed it, you didn't need it to connect the doorbell. Excellent video btw. I like to see installations before I buy and you made this look pretty easy. Thanks!!

@theinternetelectrician

4 жыл бұрын

I just wanted to do a complete installation showing all the functionality of the Nest Hello. Locating the transformer is prudent just so you know where it is should it ever need to be replaced, and to check that it is of the proper specifications recommended.

What if you have two doer bells on the same ringer and you are only changing the front doobell

Is dropping your first screwdriver a requirement? LOL Great video. It also helped me to have a back up screw driver.

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's in the manual, page 8, section 2, paragraph 5. :-) I wanted to be thorough. Thanks for watching and glad I could help you out!

@truthreigns7

3 жыл бұрын

@@theinternetelectrician Thank you very much. I sent you or your company an email with a question.

Terry, I have a hampton bay wired/wireless doorbell from Home depot. It suggests using a diode at the regular doorbell. When you connect the nest, does it still need the diode? Thanks

Hi. Great video. How can I install the Nest Hello doorbell WITHOUT a chime? Do I need to use the chime connector? This is new installation (did not have an existing doorbell) but I will chime through my Google Mini instead. Thank you!

@truttzi

3 жыл бұрын

You just wire directly to the transformer.

Great video. Thanks. Just my experience. Turns out that my doorbell was being powered by two different circuits. Started out switching one breaker at a time off then ring the bell then switching it back on. The bell never went dead for all the breakers. Next I turned off all the breakers. the bell was dead. Switched on each breaker (one at a time) then rang the bell then switched it off. When I got to a breaker that rang the bell, I made a note of the breaker number then switched it off and went to the next breaker. When I finished, I noted that two breakers controlled the bell. BTW, my wife was at the front door with her cell phone and I was at the breaker box with my cell phone. NO, I wasn't running back and forth.

@theinternetelectrician

4 жыл бұрын

Did you locate the bell transformer? I'd be interested to know where the cross-connection is between 2 separate circuits. That should be investigated further.

@HsingSun

3 жыл бұрын

If the door Belt light is off, that mean you got the right circuit breaker.

I am looking for some help! I hooked up my doorbell but I had a short in my wire, so when I put power to it my doorbell didn't show a blue light and the transformer was shorted out. Did that short out the camera too? Is there a way to test it, the transformers are fairly expensive...

Great video Terry. You say your in Arizona but you sure sound Canadian!

@theinternetelectrician

4 жыл бұрын

Oh ya, I'm a Canadian, eh! But I move around allot between Vancouver Island, Arizona, and Costa Rica.

@du3223

4 жыл бұрын

Well, hello from Ottawa!

When you said 15 feet of the camera does it mean that the camera rotates towards the person that came to your house.Also what should I do if the placement of my camera is not able to be looking at the person entering my house.

thank you.

As for anchors, remember if you can't find a good anchor to fit the space you can use anything pliable that will allow the screw to get a good bite. I've used toothpicks and chop sticks, used rat tails cut off from zip ties, you can even use scrap bits of wire - just cut them to a reasonable length, fit as many in the hole as possible and secure your project.

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Good advice! Yes, sometimes you just do what it takes to make it work! Chewing gum! (but the double-bubble kind that gets so hard after a few chews that is almost breaks you jaw) :-)

@t-max7261

2 жыл бұрын

Great tip! Thanks!

Hi Terry just watching your great video on Nest Hello installation. I'm trying to figure out the wiring on installing without a chime. Is that small round unit a new chime or is it a wifi antenna,, do I also need to buy a chime unit. I have a transformer and have some electrical experience. Thanks!!!

@lindsayruddock9141

Ай бұрын

I installed my Nest doorbell without a chime, i ignored the little white chime adapter disc and simply connected up 24vac into the back of the Nest doorbell. When i opened the little white disc to see what was in it, the first thing which surprised me was that the two grey wires were connected together and likewise the two white wires, and there is no wifi in it, it’s just a clever little device which sits in series with the ac power feed to divert power to the chime for moment when the bellpush is pressed, so since i have google in all rooms and i don’t need a chime thatks why i just left it out of my install

What type of anchors did you use? I have a very similar issue with the stucco and am very new to DIY.

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

I used drywall anchors, but what was mostly needed was some caulking / adhesive. Very difficult to attach to a stucco wall like this so you just make it work however you can. I would appreciate it if you like, subscribe, and click the bell as well (if you already did, thanks!) It really helps us creators gain traction with KZread.

My Nest Hello recently started shutting off entirely. Worked nearly flawlessly for 2.5 years. It's been off for the past 2 days (colder weather in Canada, but nothing near the operating limitations), and just came back online again this morning (-1 celsius). The blue halo light and green status light will abruptly shut off when it's malfunctioning, and I cannot figure out why. I'm wondering now if it's a power/transformer issue? If anyone has thoughts, I'd be grateful to hear them --- Google has told me to just "buy a new one"... Thanks for the great video!

Hi, sorry for the question, I am trying to do it his in my own but not sure if I am supposed to turn off the power of the whole house? Sorry, I’ve never done this before and will like for my son and I to feel more secure at the house.

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

No need to turn off the power for the entire house. If you can determine what individual breaker feeds the circuit that your doorbell transformer is on then great, only turn off that circuit. But it's not all that common to include the transformer in listing what is on each circuit. But for example, if you find the transformer in the garage, or near your panel, it will likely be on the circuit that controls the lights and receptacles in that room, or if it's by the panel it might be on a circuit called the panel receptacle, or something similar. If you can't easily figure out what the breaker is, or can't find the transformer, just shut off one breaker at a time and see if the doorbell still works or not. When it quits, you've found it. Also, the voltage from the transformer is very low, usually 16 volts. Not that you should ever work on something without shutting off the power, but 16V is something that most people would not even feel by touching it directly. That's why we power circuits like this with low voltage so if that cheap doorbell button breaks and the wires are exposed, you're not going to get any kind of a harmful shock from it.

Great Video. FYI, My Doorbell is on the same circuit as my Furnace. Go figure. Guess that was easier than installing the doorbell's dedicated low voltage power supply.

Hi Terry, I am curious if you are using Android or iPhone. I have an iPhone 11 Pro Max and find it is limited on the notifications. If you are using an iPhone how did you set it up to have voice announcing someone at your door? I can get notifications to come up but have no way that I am aware of to change the sound of the notification.

@bernardoprovenzanno9487

4 жыл бұрын

I have an old Nokia flip phone..can or will it work..???🤔

Followed your tutorial step by step but when it is all connected my chime buzzes and it looks like one of the plungers is trying to ring. Any ideas on how to fix this?

@theinternetelectrician

4 жыл бұрын

I can't think of anything that might cause that offhand, no.

Can anyone help me with a problem with my nest doorbell. I’ve followed a reinstall after going round in circles on the google app. Very good video, very clear and precise. However my problem is that although the doorbell has been mine from new it says it’s connected to another account. Unfortunately I don’t remember what that account was. I changed my email address and wonder if it’s something to do with that. I can no longer access that account. I have signed up to Google aware, useless, sends you round in circles, I can’t email or speak to anyone and I am not very technically aware. Any help would be gratefully received

We live on a busy street, and our Nest Hello will be facing the street. Will the motion detector page us every time a car goes by, or can we adjust the sensitivity to only notify us when someone is walking up the walk?

@bernardoprovenzanno9487

4 жыл бұрын

What about ghosts???🤓

@HsingSun

3 жыл бұрын

How about sexy women walked by?

I'm getting feedback. When someone comes to the door and I speak, my voice is echoed back to the person answering the phone. Did a hard reset on nest hello. happens on 3 different android phone. can you help

@livenfree

3 жыл бұрын

What did you do to resolve this this? Didn't understand what was happening exactly. Did you by chance have a phone on u conned to the same door bell when you rang the doorbell?

In my case, I also have 2 wires on FRONT and TRANS, but they are too thick to wind together to get into the white clip. Any tips?

@theinternetelectrician

4 жыл бұрын

splice and pig-tail to a piece of #18 solid wire?

@bernardoprovenzanno9487

4 жыл бұрын

Yes splice and then call ghost busters..

I live in the Phoenix area, I wish you were my neighbor!

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Was. We sold that house in April,..... We miss it, but more than anything, the freedom to travel where and when we want to.

Wait... I have to buy a best connect. So not everything I need is in the box? Does it work without it ?

perfect for small jobs in the garage

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

I guess so, but not entirely sure what you mean?

Good video i ordered a ring peep hole camera However I want to cancel the order and get nest door bell and connect it this way, I don’t have any google products but is my iPhone enough? Also my door way is like this door way we’re it’s not flush to the wall so some wall will block the view which I don’t like. Can you save videos as well to your phone ? Because I could not find anything about that

If we don’t have any door bells what I should I do

I am having an issue with connecting the Nest Video Door Bell to my office and a 2nd one at my home. it seems that I can only add one video Door bell to one structure. Because when I add a product and scan in my door 2nd doorbell at home or office.. it does not connect.. but when I "remove device" a home, my office will allow to install , and vise-versa. Any solutions for that?

Can you use the doorbell also without an existing chime in your house?

@heyitsbroski

4 жыл бұрын

Yes but it'll only notify your phone. You can use Google Nest mini speakers as a doorbell speaker.

@TrueSaiyen

4 жыл бұрын

@@heyitsbroski thanks. That's perfect :)!

Are you still able to connect the Nest Hello without the Nest Connect?

@theinternetelectrician

4 жыл бұрын

Unless there is an upgraded version, as far as I know you need the Nest Connect as an interface.

Can I keep my old doorbell connected in parallel to the Nest?

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

You mean so that guests can push the doorbell or the Nest? I've never tried that, so not sure. I'm thinking no, because of the interface.

I wasted time looking for my transformer! Just tested voltage with my multimeter at the door bell. It was 18 volts. So good to go! They only have u check the voltage output of the transformer.

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Just to make sure it is within the parameters that the system requires.

@theoriginalchefboyoboy6025

3 жыл бұрын

You didn't waste time. You learned something about your house. It's your responsibility to know everything about your house. Why? Because it's YOUR house and YOU are responsible for its well-being. That being said, there are plenty of short cuts you can take in installing this stuff. But when stuff goes wrong you always have to reduce to checking everything, which means finding everything. Wait til you have to find a tv splitter that's embedded in the ceiling of your finished basement...

@livenfree

3 жыл бұрын

@@theoriginalchefboyoboy6025 true. I also learned that my doorbell has a front door and rear door chimes. Handy to know!

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

@@theoriginalchefboyoboy6025 Good input!

@HsingSun

3 жыл бұрын

Agree!

Mine was right over the light in the washroom!

Any subscriptions?

Can this product also "ring" my mobile when somebody presses my doorbell?

@HsingSun

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, wherever you go, you will hear "ding dong" and see the stranger's face as well if someone pressed the nest Hello button.

please can you share the wiring diagram as it quite difficult to differentiate wires from chime to transformer and the doorbell

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Good suggestion. I should have. If it's not too late I can send you a diagram via email.

@urvishparikh5224

3 жыл бұрын

@@theinternetelectrician hey my email is urvishparikh2605@yahoo.com Thank you terry for your help for sending me through email

My friend who's a maintenance engineer at a university assured me 18 volts would do nothing to a human. Takes over like 30 volts to have an issues.

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

He is correct. It's just better to get into the habit of turning off the power.

can this be used with a battery pack if I do not have an existing door bell.

@BenBurgessCA

4 жыл бұрын

No, but they sell a standalone power supply that can be used in place of a transformer. store.google.com/us/product/ninety7_indoor_power_adapter_nest_hello

Have a existing Nest hello Door bell. Came with house I bought from previous owner. Everytime I try to pair it gives me Error NC029 . I’ve reset this multiple times and tried different phone or iPad. Any tips????

@HsingSun

3 жыл бұрын

There is a code came with new Nest Hello. That is why your phone would not work. Call the previous owner to see you can get the code.

My Transformer is above hallway light .

You should really mention shutting off the circuit that powers the doorbell first before anything. Because I'm an idiot. Other than that, great video. - Eyebrowless Steve

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

True dat! My bad for not mentioning that.

My chime gets stuck at ding... , there is no dong. Sounds like it is stacked. I replaced and still same problem. there is 2 white wires and 2 red wires coming out where the transformer is. And I believe is a 12v transformer. Any suggestions?

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Are you connected to the chime terminal for the back door (the ding) as opposed to the front door terminal (ding dong?)

@adriancitort

3 жыл бұрын

Terry Peterman hi. no, it says front on the chime. Its almost like it wants to do it but it just stAys buzzing( spring compressed) and releases it 1 min later, the spring.

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

And the plunger isn’t sticking? Not sure what to suggest ?

I like the video. I wish we didn’t focus so much on the transformer, since we never need to touch it. Just turn off it’s circuit breaker.

If the Nest Hello doesn't power up does that mean there's not enough voltage to the doorbell?

@HsingSun

3 жыл бұрын

I would think so.

We want to remove the video doorbell, how do we remove the front panel from the bracket. There wasn't a special tool as you mentioned in your video

@rollingcode3

4 жыл бұрын

Try using a SIM card tool.

Thanks a lot. You said find transformer in garage and i ran, low and behold it was there.

@HN-gj2iq

3 жыл бұрын

Please show the anchors used i also have a hollow stucco wall.

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent! Thanks for watching!

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

can't remember exactly what anchors I ended up using, but it wasn't pretty and the only thing that saved the installation was the caulking to basically glue everything together and then the bead around the base is probably what's holding it in place more than anything. Not much else you can do with that situation.

@HsingSun

3 жыл бұрын

I just found out my transformer is located upper closet near the front door.

I have a wireless doorbell so rip

Could you reupload it but with the Wii Mii Channel theme?

That’s fine and dandy for a 2 wire hookup , the transformer wire and the doorbell wire. Now show us what wires to hook up with an older 60’s model chime having 5 instead of 2 connectors .

@jonathankessler7436

3 жыл бұрын

you can't use that chime or transformer probably. You'd have to buy new ones.

@HsingSun

3 жыл бұрын

Replace with new Chime and transformer.

Selling Girl Scout Cookies without Cookies LOL !

@fly4doe2

3 жыл бұрын

You can bet her daughter is standing back on the sidewalk with a wagon full several cases of cookies...or they may just be taking orders. How do I know? We have 600 cases of cookies (that's around 7,200 boxes) in the living room right now, serving 2 different troops. This is 8th year doing it...we'll have more cookies than furniture until March.

Why do I need to know where the Chime Transformer is? You don't show that anything needs done to it.

Never checked voltage from transformer.

@DamianDaniels

4 жыл бұрын

it shows 16V on the Transformer and the Chime

Why do I need to find the actual transformer, I dodnt see you connect anything to it during the install

@theinternetelectrician

4 жыл бұрын

Just to verify the output voltage is in the range needed for the Nest, and you can check the voltage with your meter at the transformer terminals to ensure you shut off the correct breaker for the 120V circuit that it is fed from. It's always good to know where it is in case it should ever fail.

@theinternetelectrician

4 жыл бұрын

@@bybcous If the transformer failed, it would just put out no voltage. You can verify that you have the correct breaker feeding the transformer just by checking if the doorbell works, then doesn't with the breaker off.

@bybcous

4 жыл бұрын

Thankyou so much for help, installing now, going smoothly

Not sure why we needed to find the transformer as it appeared it wasn’t involved in the installation.

Bought this one because the older version kzread.infoUgkx0jZ_lGlDVJhDnmagEU8gn47cmfPNlLQ had was really choppy and would disconnect from the wifi ALOT, was not catching everything and every week j had to charge it. So far the picture quality on this one is exceptional. I also bought a solar panel with it so I will see how this all turns out.

What is the purpose of the Power Kit? can I install without it?

I followed the instructions verbatim. When done, the chimes on the mechanical doorbell no longer worked. Any ideas?

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

Do they attempt to ring? Can you hear a humming or buzzing when the button is pushed? I'm thinking maybe the wires are jamming up the striker plungers?

@JohnLBeck

3 жыл бұрын

Terry Peterman No noise at all. Nothing. I left the cover off to make sure that the wires weren’t obstructing the plungers

@theinternetelectrician

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnLBeck hmm. Not sure then?

@JohnLBeck

3 жыл бұрын

Is there a reset button on doorbells? Also, is there a way to get a chime on the phone?

@JohnLBeck

3 жыл бұрын

Can I assume that since the Nest doorbell is working that the transformer is OK and perhaps it is the doorbell itself that went dead?

Here is also a great view of the nest Door bell kzread.info/dash/bejne/h21quKR6eZDYZrQ.html

Cant I just use batteries

@heyitsbroski

4 жыл бұрын

Nope.

@daveogmiles6152

4 жыл бұрын

@@heyitsbroski tht sucks

@BenBurgessCA

4 жыл бұрын

If you don't have a built-in transformer you can use an indoor power supply: store.google.com/us/product/ninety7_indoor_power_adapter_nest_hello

@daveogmiles6152

4 жыл бұрын

@@BenBurgessCA They make you pay to use it after so menny days milk the cow much

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Had the Nest doorbell for four years and it’s simply the worst. Do not purchase a Nest doorbell. After suffering with this doorbell for many years, I finally switched to the Ring Pro wired. 100 times better than Nest, far more features, great app, and quick notifications.

Google Nest Hello deurbel bij mij al met 2 jaar kapot en bij google support helpen ze je niet goed, klote support, veel te dure deurbel, niet aan beginnen, is ook vaak traag in reageren, en ja mijn wifi kast hangt er zowat boven, alles geprobeerd, doet nu dus niets meer...