Every review I've seen on this one so far, have mentioned the front rack not following the handlebars. But if you actually use it to lug stuff about, you know you dont want a sack of potatoes or a shopping bag wobbling about with your steering. Same with your light if the front rack is loaded, you want the beam to light up in the general direction you're actually going. Not where your bars are wobbling. Now if you're just riding for speed, fun or to look cool, it makes sense. But as a actual transport/utility bike you want that stability.

@baconbuttties

6 ай бұрын

The rack does work well and the front light is not a problem. I do try and mention everything, otherwise I will have comments saying why didn't you mention the rack.

@Caprifool

3 ай бұрын

@@baconbuttties yes, I was drawing the attention to something often said about the bike. And basically any transport bike tbh that has the rack and light fixed to the frame. But I doubt that they actually lug stuff around daily or even weekly.

Thank you for your laughter. Made my day. And I will look at ENGWE.

@baconbuttties

4 ай бұрын

Thank you.

This is the best review of the bike I have seen, excellent presentation too, lots of information very useful . Thank you.

@baconbuttties

19 күн бұрын

Thank you 👍

It's nice to see you back in the saddle, I hope your back is feeling better. I used to live in the Rhondda valleys, so I'd pop into Caerphilly a couple of times a week, visit the castle, and shop at morrisons.

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

👍👍

@eggy1962

6 ай бұрын

I have mine in black, i am loving this bike and enjoy buzzing around the top of the Rhondda, forestry tracks are a hoot

@baconbuttties

6 ай бұрын

@@eggy1962 👍👍

Awesome bike, definitely way more than 250w but that's just part of the fun lol. I love how the laws regarding them are so stupid that even the manufacturers don't follow them anymore.

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

👍👍

I love that you are testing this out in the Halfords car park!

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

👍👍

@Spinningininfinity

6 күн бұрын

@@HighVoltageKits Halfords ebikes are a joke Halfords stopped caring about bikes a long time ago. I well remember in 2004 I could not buy a break cable from them. They only care about cars now, there is a lot more money to be made charging an extra £5 in change and a light bulb 🙂‍↕️

I just ordered one 30/11/23 just waiting for a delivery date I’m looking forward to getting out on it. I previously converted a cube mountain bike with a Bafang 750w mid drive and while that was quite a bike I just seem to have no end of problems lately. So I decided to opt for a pre built one. I hope I’m not disappointed 😅

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

I think it's a nice bike and I enjoy using it 👍 Im sure you will like it.

@keyboardpatriot

27 күн бұрын

Any updates bro?

@gammon1183

22 күн бұрын

How was fitting the mid drive on the cube, I've got a cube and was tempted but

@gedofgont1006

3 күн бұрын

I put a Bafang 750w mid drive kit on my Boardman road bike, three years ago. 6,000 miles later it still performs faultlessly. Have you been giving yours a bit too much of a pounding on the trails?😮

Leaning forward in the brake test is taking weight off the rear wheel so less traction on it.

@baconbuttties

4 ай бұрын

I suppose it's a natural reaction when braking hard 👍

Thank you for the review! Is there a massive difference between the engine X and the L20 or are they basically the same bike and components- just 1 folds and the other doesn't?

@baconbuttties

15 күн бұрын

Quite a lot of difference between them

Hi, loving the bike, are all the throttles on engwe bikes enabled and disabled the same way, would save a lot of hassle if stopped by the old bill, quick and easy. I may just invest in one, cheers and great vid buddy

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

I don't know if there all are, but everyone I have had can be disabled.

I was looking at the L20 or E26 as my first e-bike, being a disabled rider, the step through was a big draw for me, however, no folding option took me toward the Engine X. I'd love to see something with it all .. Stepthrough folder would have been nice to see. Nice review mate, thanks.

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

I do like the step through, and a step through folder would be nice 👍👍

@draughtsman1973

7 ай бұрын

Looks like the L20 SE has you covered🚲

@eggy1962

6 ай бұрын

@@draughtsman1973se has a true 250watt motor and on this heavy bike i doubt it would be enough, i would like the bigger motor on the folding design, plus if the front rack was on a quick release so could be taken off when not shopping

Although the light on a motorcycle turns with the steering, for these fixed lights it's just the same as driving in a car like if you're driving in pitch black and doing a U-turn up very sharp turn the lights doesn't turn with your steering it basically just catches up when you strengthen up, so don't think it's much of a issue. Good info you gave though 👍

@baconbuttties

12 күн бұрын

👍👍

Great review... Is the front rack perfectly aligned with the headtube, as I've read about some of them NOT being? It's a great pity they chose to use cheap, corrodible & heavy steel for the mudguards, plus the front & rear racks. Very odd given that aluminium alloy is usually the preferred material for racks & plastic for the mudguards with all the advantages that confers...so purely a cost decision.

@baconbuttties

6 ай бұрын

The rack was straight. People saying it's not perfectly aligned might of not put it on straight as you do need to line it up when do up the bolts.

@ajacks1349

6 ай бұрын

@@baconbuttties That's good...looks like it might be worth a punt as they say, despite the real risk of aftersales/warranty/lack of parts issues later. Like yourself, I always like to check out metals with a small powerful neodymium magnet given the amount of fraud out there. Back in 21 I purchased several meters of what was supposed to be thick gauge oxygen free copper cable for my hi-fi system from eb@y & found out sometime later...with the magnet WHY the cable sounded harsh...it was magnetic & probably steel multi-strand wire plated with copper! Also, I purchased a "Trinx" folding bike (not ebike)...again from eb@y described as steel on the frame label, but was found to be non magnetic & probably an aluminium alloy...so that was quickly moved on, as it was quite light weight & very bendy.

Do the batteries on these things last a while? Only thing putting me off getting one is a replacement is half the cost of the bike.

@baconbuttties

5 ай бұрын

I'm not sure how long they actually last, should be a decent amount of time . Have you priced a battery? Engwe batteries seem competitively priced.

Do you think it might be possible to replace the mechanical brakes with hydraulics? I'd be wanting to carry a fair bit of cargo...on top of what's gonna be a pretty heavy bike...

@baconbuttties

6 ай бұрын

Yes you can do it, the harder part is the brake levers have motor cut off switches. So either get hydraulic brake levers with switches or magnet adapter type for any brake lever

@baconbuttties

6 ай бұрын

I change the brakes on my other engwe kzread.info/dash/bejne/iGSl3Madl6bRhZM.html

Hey 👋 is that noise coming from your camera equipment or its the bike ? Cheers 👍. 13:10-13:28 short example.

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

Tyre noise and the front camera mount on the handlebars. The lever you use to do up front camera mount jiggles about.

At least the handlebars are wider than my wife's EP Pro. Mine are 740mm wide on my Cannondale, hers feels a bit twitchy off road. Great video boss 👍

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

Yes the wider handlebars make it more stable 👍

@kafkent6727

8 ай бұрын

@@baconbutttiesMarchogaeth yn dda 👌

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

@@kafkent6727 diolch

@Cartsp70

6 ай бұрын

The Ep2 pro is a death trap with the stock handle bars , it rides like a scooter 🛴

With respect to this reviewer and all the others who have reviewed this cargo bike , designed for carrying stuff , there is no mention how this bike rides fully laden with shopping going down or up hill and how the range is effected . After all, If you was after a E mountain bike , you might expect to see how it jumps and performs off road .

@baconbuttties

5 ай бұрын

👍

Had my first ride on mine this week, awesome bike butty same as yours in white as well. Many thanks for the review.

@baconbuttties

7 ай бұрын

It is awesome 👍👍 Happy ebiking...

Dose rain water fill up at the base of were the battery conects too when rain water slides down the battery

@baconbuttties

Ай бұрын

@@karlosthehawk3730 there must be a dran hole there, I cannot check as I do not have the bike anymore.

@karlosthehawk3730

Ай бұрын

No worries 👍

Headlight seems like a nice bright light, as for it being mounted on the rack I don't see a problem, we drive cars with lights fixed to the body and they don't turn when the wheels turn. Is there any chance you could list your setup? Helmet, camera and mounts etc. Thanks.

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

I will list my setup in the description.. ( as long as I don't forget ) 👍👍

@Old_Man_Pete

8 ай бұрын

@@baconbuttties cheers matey, I do get the "if I remember" we are no spring chickens anymore lol.

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

@@Old_Man_Pete 👍👍

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

@@Old_Man_Pete I have put it at the bottom of the description, but I might do a video on how I film ebike videos

@Old_Man_Pete

8 ай бұрын

​@@baconbutttiesthank you 👍

Great review Butty ,So with it at full power unrestricted what will it achieve just on the throttle in mph Thanks.

@baconbuttties

Ай бұрын

If I remember correctly it was around 27 to 28 mph

@alanmeasures8337

Ай бұрын

@@baconbuttties THANKS MATE

@baconbuttties

Ай бұрын

@@alanmeasures8337 👍👍

@gedofgont1006

12 күн бұрын

​@@baconbuttties That's pretty amazing, especially on small wheels and fat tyres. I'm sorely tempted to fork out for one of these. In green, it has an almost military appearance.😊

Hi butty, been out for a ride to Mumbles Swansea along the coastal cycle track, but I only got 26 miles out of the battery, must admit it was windy but the throttle was off and mostly flat cycle track terrain , should I be getting more mileage than this. I hope that your experience of the bike might have some answers for me. Many thanks, stay safe and happy new year on your cycle adventures. 👍

@baconbuttties

7 ай бұрын

What assist level was you using?

@62shunto

7 ай бұрын

@@baconbuttties Level 3 all time.

@baconbuttties

7 ай бұрын

@@62shunto seems about right with wind as well

@eggy1962

6 ай бұрын

@@62shunto level 3 is too easy on flat i use that uphill, i find level 1 enough on flat but admittedly in lower gears,, not yet done a long run 10 miles mostly of mixed riding plenty of uphill so cant say average life. When weather improves i will have another crack in forestry

@Chip_57

4 ай бұрын

Hmmm seems poor range that. Obviously dismiss the claimed 140km - all bike manufacturers should be done under the trade descriptions act. Let's have some real world figures please. However, I would expect more than 26 even if you half the claimed figures.

Hi butty, brilliant videos they give the viewer a lot of info before they purchase the new bike. Would you know of anywhere that I could go and see one before I buy, I live near Swansea south Wales but prepared to travel to view one. Many thanks keep the videos coming. 👍

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

I wouldn't know of anywhere sorry. Is there anything I missed that you want to know? Maybe I could help.

@62shunto

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the brilliant reviews answered lots of questions for me, I have just purchased my L20 in avacado green colour and had a great price with discount I paid £836.10 and best thing is I am dealing with a supplier in England who was very helpful and a nice guy to talk to over the phone. Excited now can't wait to get the bike. 😂

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

@@62shunto It's a great bike 👍👍

@upperdeane

6 ай бұрын

​@62shunto wow. Where did you get discount to get it that price?

@62shunto

6 ай бұрын

@@upperdeane I had my bike from Power Hub online if you can ask to speak with Jason.

I purchased that bike in the US and I believe it’s 750 watts motor

@baconbuttties

3 ай бұрын

👍👍

What is the weight they can take please

@baconbuttties

6 күн бұрын

Payload Capacity: 120KG (264lbs) That must include rider weight

Hi where did you purchase your bike from, looking to purchase one myself.

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

It's from The UK Engwe Website...Link is in the description 👍👍

@62shunto

8 ай бұрын

I look at engwe UK and it's a good offer but don't the delivery waiting time, need to do some homework on this before I buy again, bit apprehensive after loosing £954 to a company called AOVO-STORE and that was using PayPal as well, going to do some more digging first. Many thanks my friend for your help and videos, I will let you know what I end up doing. 👍

This thing looks fantastic! However, how long do you think it will be before the police begin pushing back against them? The 250W sticker won't fool everyone.

@baconbuttties

Ай бұрын

@@VICNCRAIG I don't think the police would bother at all with a bike like this

@VICNCRAIG

Ай бұрын

I hope you're right, although that does seem a bit optimistic. A decade or so ago, my wife had an electric (toy) scooter which she would commute on, until a slow police day changed that. It's a shame because these low powered vehicles are a great transport solution, and lots more would be willing to adopt them, but they just don't seem to be getting the government support of their 4 wheeled counterparts. Hopefully that will change at some point soon

whats better l20 or x250 engwe

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

That's a tough one to choose....The feel very similar to ride and have similar power and speed. The choice is down to if you want the folding function or the practically of carrying more stuff. If I had to choose it would be the L20.

You live in the uk and you're British so say Aluminium how we say in and don't charge for the yanks, they don't for our sake. 😁

@baconbuttties

3 ай бұрын

👍👍

is the ENGWE M20 Ebike (750w) legal in UK because it sells on the website

@baconbuttties

3 ай бұрын

Its legal to sell, you could sell a 10,000 watt ebike... it's just not legal to ride in public roads

@gamingmisthios

3 ай бұрын

@@baconbuttties when is the 500w proposed law coming to action, any leads?

@baconbuttties

3 ай бұрын

@@gamingmisthios I don't know, could be a long time..

Would love to buy one of these Engwe bikes but concerned about someone nicking it. My area is the stolen bike capital of the UK

@baconbuttties

4 ай бұрын

Battery is easily removed, don't know if that will make it less appealing to steal?

@cabottaxi

4 ай бұрын

They would steal it even if its locked away in a garage@@baconbuttties

@baconbuttties

4 ай бұрын

@@cabottaxi that's not good

@lukeb4nts172

3 ай бұрын

Insure it.

Follow up video on 20mph roads in wales?

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

👍👍

How tall do you need to be to ride this comfortably please? I am 5'1" but not a fantastic rider lol. Thanks

@baconbuttties

5 ай бұрын

Its not a big bike, but will have to measure seat height for you at is lowest position

@baconbuttties

5 ай бұрын

Seat will go down to 80cm which is pretty low for an ebike..

@LivingALife4Me

5 ай бұрын

Thanks!@@baconbuttties

Can Engwe L20 2.0 be bought in the UK?. if so can you tell me where ? Thank you for your reviews they are very informative .Caerphilly isn't far from me ,so seeing this bike do hills was a deciding point for me. Cheers

@baconbuttties

2 ай бұрын

Yes you can buy it on the engwe website. The link is in the description 👍

@HealthyKlingons

20 күн бұрын

​@@baconbuttties This is incorrect. The 2.0 model is not yet available in Europe, which is frustrating. This version features a 52v battery that provides greater torque, along with several other improvements.

@baconbuttties

20 күн бұрын

@@HealthyKlingons Yes you are correct, version 2 is not available

@gedofgont1006

12 күн бұрын

​@@baconbuttties Do you know if it will be soon? Loved your review, BTW.😊

@baconbuttties

12 күн бұрын

@@gedofgont1006 not sure of the timeframe 👍

Great review fella! If Engwe are asking, I bought the L20 for my wife after watching this review, as her old Halfords shopping bike has done many many miles and lacked braking power using rim blocks from day one, it's been like Trigger's broom in that respect and with the recent cold weather, the motor has been cutting out. Time for a new one and the L20 was clearly the best choice, in Snow White as per your review. She will love the racks, mudguards and design touches throughout. I will be happy she finally has decent disc brakes! Liked and sub'd. Many thanks and ride safe.

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍👍

@Cartsp70

6 ай бұрын

The brakes are absolute garbage 🗑️ they should have fitted drum brakes, you try an emergency stop on it you’ll be in a ditch !

@baconbuttties

6 ай бұрын

@@Cartsp70 I did an emergency stop on this bike and they worked absolutely fine. I did it in the video....

@Cartsp70

6 ай бұрын

@@baconbuttties mate if you’re doing 30 mph on a bike with 20” wheels you need good brakes these are not good brakes Is all I’m saying

@baconbuttties

6 ай бұрын

@@Cartsp70 Squeeze hard enough and they do stop you. I'm not saying they can't be improved upon though 👍👍

Mine arrived today tried to disable throttle the way you did and didn't work 🤷‍♂️any ideas

@baconbuttties

6 күн бұрын

@@ice20661 have you tried it a few times

@ice20661

6 күн бұрын

multiple times with one brake the other brake and both brakes I think it only goes to 6kmh I also can't change the speed in the settings cheers.

@baconbuttties

6 күн бұрын

@@ice20661 you will have to contact engwe as it looks like they have changed the settings. I think its a hidden menu but I don't know the process.

@ice20661

6 күн бұрын

Yes that's my next port of call just thought I'd ask a expert first 👍 thank you.

@baconbuttties

6 күн бұрын

@@ice20661 👍

When are you getting the L20 Boost🎉

@baconbuttties

6 күн бұрын

@@Spinningininfinity hopefully they will send me one for review 👍

@Spinningininfinity

6 күн бұрын

@@baconbuttties I'm sure they will😊 I love your channel it's full of that unique but hard to define quality of honesty charm 🫡 I am most interested in this bike. The L20 was always the one I was looking to buy and now it has a torque sensor it's a done deal, but most of all I am interested in the boost feature. I am 72 and have knees to match, so pushing off, especially on hills is a no-no, and I don't mind the reduced projected distance loss, it's a good trade off for me I appreciate the front luggage rack as I intend to go day camping in my steed and my trusty rucksack will fit very nicely there. I love it how you manage to manage to travel to America for your on road throttle testing, but the weather over there must be very disappointing for the locals 🤪💯🤣

@baconbuttties

6 күн бұрын

@@Spinningininfinity 👍👍

When you set display it 60km per hour so what is top speed if that was my bike It would be doing 37mph

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

Top speed is around 26 to 28 mph depending weight

@colinwhite144

8 ай бұрын

@@baconbuttties hi that's amazing for 250wat I had 750wat 25mph it's is fat tyre bike from amazon looks like a motor bike. Today I've put a 1500wat kit on 35amp controller 52v 20amp battery I shoud get 35 to 37mph. It's made bike a but heavy at rear. I haven't been out on it yet I've got do throttle and pas the drop out was a bit of a pain 4 washers either side to centre the wheel I'll get there

@colinwhite144

8 ай бұрын

People panic if you have 1500wat or 2000wat if you have a limerta it's two blue wires if you connect up the bike does 18mph that makes it Street lagal. As long I have that connected the police can't do nothing that's for on the road if road disconnect blue wire is but on the road with wire disconnect from then they might give warning or take bike depending on age and driving licence in intilted to use 50cc scooter with out license 50cc is 2.600 wats

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

@@colinwhite144 👍

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

@@colinwhite144 👍👍

Good video ❤ I am looking for the 750 watt version

@baconbuttties

6 ай бұрын

You might be surprised on the actual power of this one

@supernova1976

6 ай бұрын

it is actually 750w, marked 250.

@rabbitedge

Ай бұрын

@@supernova1976 hi is this bike actually 750w but marked as 250w for the UK market

@supernova1976

Ай бұрын

@@rabbitedge yes

@rabbitedge

Ай бұрын

Thanks I'm now looking for UK supplier

Nice review can i pull a cart with my dog in it ?

@baconbuttties

6 ай бұрын

Probably, has a good bit of torque.

Can it take a passenger? I need a bike for school runs. Preferably legal 😂

@baconbuttties

7 ай бұрын

Im not sure as it states 25kg on the rear rack

Got in touch with them to try one, got told they dont do bike trials, the dont sell them through shops so its not possible to try one. Just pay them just under 2k online and they will send me one. Im not buying a pig in a pole though

@baconbuttties

12 күн бұрын

@@sparkyjackson8479 engwe L20 is £999 online

@sparkyjackson8479

11 күн бұрын

@@baconbuttties whichever one you pick still no test rides

@baconbuttties

11 күн бұрын

@@sparkyjackson8479 how can they give you test rides with on online shop?

@sparkyjackson8479

10 күн бұрын

@baconbuttties how can people be expected to part with so much money from an webpage picture

@baconbuttties

10 күн бұрын

@@sparkyjackson8479 it's not just a webpage is it. There are loads of reviews out there. If you want to test ride something then go to a shop and pay double. 👍

👍

@baconbuttties

3 ай бұрын

👍

There’s no way this will do 60 kph I’ve tried it and also the tyres are awful unless it’s bone dry , not a bad bike though, 6/10 👍🏾

@baconbuttties

6 ай бұрын

I got about 42 kph on a straight flat road

Bro can u use this bike in the rain ?

@baconbuttties

2 ай бұрын

It's most likely water resistant, but not waterproof. I would ask Engwe directly how water resistant it is.

@seanroberts9242

2 ай бұрын

The rating of our e-bike is IPX5. We do not recommend riding your e-bike through water. If you must ride in water, the water depth should not exceed the lowest point of the motor, otherwise your motor may be damaged. From company

Have you ever been stopped by the police to check if your bike is legal or illegal?

@baconbuttties

6 ай бұрын

Never.... In public I always stick to the rule of 15.5 mph and pedaling. I keep in a low setting. What you see on my reviews is testing the full capabilities.

Mr Chuckle can't see much leg pedaling or are you using an illegal hand throttle, ha, ha

@baconbuttties

8 ай бұрын

😮

@Den_YouTube_handle_bullshit

8 ай бұрын

Your spelling should be illegal!