Do you guys shoot with sigma or lumix lenses? (or both!)

@djcrash77

Жыл бұрын

I shoot with both. Love my Sigma 14-24 f2.8 Art on my S1 for Real estate photography, but will be using my new S5ii (just came today!!😁) and my 18mm and 50mm F1.8's for the video tours!

@MrTifoso31

Жыл бұрын

I use all the Lumix 1.8 primes

@orinorio1

Жыл бұрын

Like you said in Lumix Lens are made for video Sigma is made for photos. I have the 35mm 1.8 and 50m 1.8. Also the 20-60 kit lens for the S5ii. Those are the only lens I will ever need. I like to be behind the camera so will mainly use the 35mm.

@silbay

Жыл бұрын

Both and adapted EF L glass when I want extreme sharpness. Now how about doing the same tests with the DG DN Art lenses which are designed for mirrorless cameras instead of the older style lenses

@MichaelSchagen

Жыл бұрын

Lumix. Versatile, practical, affordable (well, the S line anyway).

This summer holidays we travelled through the Alps by car and hiking. Both in the mountains as well as some cities. I didn’t want to skimp on IQ, so instead of a smaller Fujifilm camera, I decided on taking my SL2 and SL2-S with me. I normally use these, next to my X2D, for professional fashion and beauty work in the studio. For that I have the 50 Lux-SL as well as the 24-90 and 75 Cron-SL lenses. Great glass, but quite heavy to carry around for an entire day at 37ºC. We also have two Lumix S lenses: the 50 and 85/f1.8. Both are lightweight and astonishingly good value for money. I decided to answer two questions for myself: 1) how good are the Lumix lenses really for stills, and 2) are they worthy of mounting to a Leica SL2 body? So, I borrowed two more S lenses: the 35 and the 18/f1.8 and here’s my conclusion. First, I didn’t take the 24/f1.8. I tried that lens before and although it was solid, I wasn’t impressed by the sharpness. I think it is nowhere near as good as the 50 and the 85 for stills. Nevertheless, for video it is great. Talking about video, if you’re a video shooter and use L-mount, don’t look further than these 5 Lumix S lenses. They’re almost a no-brainer. Same size, almost same weight, same filter size, great IQ, fast AF and great MF on both Panasonic S and Leica SL cameras. Having said that, I’m mostly a stills shooter, but I also value the filter size and AF performance. Secondly, although these lenses have ‘ plastic’ barrels (actually it is Thermal Stable Composite), they’re well-made and can take a beating. They don’t have the premium feel of an APO-Summicron-SL, but each weight less than half and costs about an eight of the price. Thirdly, these lenses behave great on a Leica body. AF is superfast and accurate. MF is fully configurable (I have mine set at linear with a 120º rotation). They’re beautifully balanced and with IBIS 0,5sec is no problem at all. Next, image quality is excellent. No, they’re not as good as the APO-SLs, but all 4 can easily handle 47MP and color rendering was identical. As for the 35 and 50, I’d be hard-pressed to tell the difference with the new Summicron-SL lenses. You have to really favor the premium feel of Leica to spend 4x as much for basically the almost same IQ. Are they as good as the Sigma i-Series or the Art-series? Yes, definitely as good as the i-Series 35/45/50/65/90mm and marginally less than the 20/24mm i-Series. However, the i-Series has max. apertures and filter sizes all over the place, are not weather sealed and AF is definitely not as good on SL2 and SL2-S bodies. As for the Art-series, yes, the 20/24 has visibly better IQ and the 35/50/85 are marginally better. However, all Art lenses are way heavier, bigger, more expensive and AF is also less consistent on SL2 and SL2-S bodies. My conclusion, these 4 Lumix S lenses (18/35/50/85) are exceptional in terms of value for money. The 50 and 85 are no-brainers also for stills photographers. For the 18 and 35 you might also look at the Sigma i-Series, but I valued the similarity in handling and AF/MF. As a fashion/beauty photographer I also prefer the Lumix over the Sigma rendering, although you can adjust that in post. In my view they’re worthy of mounting to an SL, SL2 or SL2-S. Yes, the APO-SLs are definitely better in all aspects, but these four lenses together cost less than half of one APO-SL lens. Having to carry my own bag and viewing the results afterwards, I never regretted not having an APO-SL with me. The only option would have been the 24-90 Vario-Elmar, but that lens mounted on an SL2 is a hefty set. Using the SL2-S and only the 35/f1.8 was such a great night outdoors combo, that I really enjoyed taking my camera with me.

omg they're so cute I can't cope. I got the Sigma 45mm free with the S5 as a launch offer, but it wasn't too good on that camera focus-wise. I loved the style and form factor. I reckon on the s5ii it'll be great because the AF is so much better.

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

They're lovely lenses, and the focus issues have definitely improved massively with the PDAF on the S5ii and S5iix, but they're still not as good as the trusty 1.8 primes! Honestly, I think Panasonic absolutely smashed it with those lenses

@MicroFourNerds

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshCameron same tbh - I sold my Sigma 85mm f1.4 when I got the Lumix 85mm 1.8 and I honestly thought you’d need to bury me with that Sigma lens at one point 😂

Thanks for the side by side comparison. Your video helps to explain the differences in size between LUMIX and Sigma lenses. If I’m shooting on a DSLR, that typically means that I want to to travel light. Thus, I’m more concerned about weight than size for lenses. If Im traveling heavy, then I prefer all metal construction. A dropped lens with a dent might be able to keep shooting. A dropped composite lens might crack or shatter the lens body, potentially making the lens unusable for shooting that day. Naturally most people don’t want to drop a lens ever. But it is something to consider. 👍

I would love a thorough test between sigma 50 f2 45mm f2.8 and lumix 50mm f1.8

Your videos are very informative, thanks!

Great video. I love the build quality on the I series lenses, however they are for sure, a photography first lens.

Top work man! One of the things that surprised me when I first got my LUMIX S5 was the quality of the LUMIX S Primes - think you've shown what a great deal they are compared to the competition!

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

They're insane - I genuinely think IQ wise they compete with some of the lower end Cine Primes!

I have the 35 and the 65 from Sigma, and the 50 and the 85 from Panasonic. I like the Sigma, as they are a bit more compact and I like the formfactor in general. The Panasonics schocked me by their plastic feeling. On the other hand, they work pretty well and there is not much to complain about. I think I will complete the range with a wider Lumix, maybe the 18 or 24. I would like to get a bit longer Lumix, like a 105/2.5 or such

Josh, do you have a video on Focusing Options with the S5 II (x) ?

I personally love the Sigma ones more, due to the aperture dial, and the more compact size... the lumix is standardized for video, but the extra weight of a series of prime lens do add up, and that means I need to adjust for a bigger gimbal as well. Can you even believe it when I say, I got a 17mm, 24mm, and 45mm all together for less than the weight of an S5, and I can pack all of the 17mm, 24mm, 45mm, aaannd the 90mm still weigh less than you S1H body alone....that that is to say all these lenses have full metal body.... insane....

Bought an S5 with small rig cage 50 prime. 20-60kit. Gimbal to go with it and ordered extra batteries and rodes go ii with better cards. Haven’t learnt manual focus properly yet. Slowly getting my gear. Mainly plan to do video should my next purchase be atomos stuff, 85prime or a heavier zoom in the event that I decide to go some sort of sporting event?

Display toch focus lock how can do please help me lumix s5ii

Thanks for the video Josh. I had the S 35 & 50 & 85 and swapped them for i 35 & 65. Photography wise I find the image quality superior. Sharper, much less CA and fringing. Especially the 65 is razor sharp and a great alternative for both 50 and 85! It just opens new creative possibilities :)

@HatefYaminiOnline

5 ай бұрын

Super helpful comment. Thank you.

@philipae27

2 ай бұрын

I’ve been thinking about getting the same 35/65 combo. Are you finding they pair well as a prime set and compliment each other? Part of me wonders if they’re too close versus the 35mm f2 and 90mm f2.8.

@GSR1952

2 ай бұрын

​@philipae27 Hi, yes, it's a really nice combo. 35mm for environmental/ street shots and 65mm for portraits/ details etc. There's a lot of difference between these 2 focal lengths. I've only tried the 90mm at an expo, nice lens as well but I think the 65mm will be more versatile in a 2 lens combo. Also the 65mm is sharper than the 90mm (in case this is important to you).

Great video thank you! Any thoughts on the 16-35 f/4? Been thinking of picking that up as my travel zoom

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

One of my favourite L-Mount lenses. Optically superb, very sharp, very light, great AF. Nothing to not like!

I recently bought the sigma 45mm 2.8 for my S5 and have noticed when using AFS or AFC I can hear the lens hunting/clicking non stop. Wondering if anyone has experienced this?

I know you're mostly a video guy - but you've got a great eye for photography. Loved the one of the boats particularly.

@JoshCameron

9 ай бұрын

Thank you very much, I really appreciate that!

S18mmf1.8 or Sigma17mmf4?How to choose?I mainly make vlog.

Hi! At 6:45 what lens did you use?

I'm in the process of collecting all the Lumix primes. Currently have the 24,35,50 and 85. I've been able to find most of them second hand for significantly cheaper than retail. The only one that rarely goes on the second hand market is that 18mm. Also, I have to say, in low light, my copy of the lens struggle acquiring focus on my S5 and S5IIX.

@jessecumberledge4530

Жыл бұрын

We really need a 105 or 135 added. WIthout it we are missing a very used look. Most OTS dialogue shots are taken in the 100mm+ range.... I need a 105 or 135 ASAP. Otherwise love the lumix primes.

@claudiubanu8438

7 ай бұрын

Hello! Tomorrow i will recive Lumix S5 ii and i have budget to buy only one lens, for now. I only do videos when traveling, i want one of the primes, not sure which one to get.. it's hard to choose only one 😂 maybe 24mm so i can film myself sometimes.. from what i've seen on youtube the 35mm looks amazing! But i think it's not good to film myself, to much zoom..

@JoshCameron Thanks for making this video. I'm new to Lumix and your comparison really helped me understand the difference between the Panasonic and Sigma lenses. If you already had the Lumix 26-60mm and 85mm, of these four Lumix lenses (18, 24, 35, or 50mm), which one would you find most useful for shooting various types of video projects?

@JoshCameron

22 күн бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, really happy this video helped! I’d say the 50mm would be a great prime to get first of all. 50mm is a very versatile focal length that’s great for product shots, portraits, and anything else where you want a little more subject separation!

I only have the 20-60mm kit lens and have been dying to get a 85mm prime lens. Thank you so much for the video as it really solidifies what I've been pondering about. Time to slowly save up for it!

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

Defo get it mate, it's a lovely lens for both photo and video :)

Id like to see a comparison with Cannon EF primes, especially with them acting like native glass with AF on the Sii. Some are cheaper and could be a decent option

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

I have done an EF lens test with the S5II on this channel! Just not comparing to Lumix lenses unfortunately, but I can already tell you now that the results will favour the lumix lenses naturally as they're native :)

The Prime lenses rock! I just reviewed the 18mm and the 24mm. The 24mm is my favorite one but I love them both.

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

Ah that's interesting! I must say that the 24mm gets used more in the office, but the 18mm gets more time outside

Love the big focal indicators on the lens caps! Are those stickers or custom lens caps? Also amazing video, just ordered my Lumix S 35mm and can't wait for it to arrive! Already thinking about the 18mm I wanna grab next :D

Just got the s5ii for a b roll camera, what ARE the best lens we should get? Videoing golfers outside need good AF and IS

@JoshCameron

9 ай бұрын

28-70 F2.8 from sigma. KILLER lens!

The S primes work so well with their native camera especially for video, but the Sigma image quality slaughters. Very hard to beat Sigma glass regardless of system used.

If youre planning on ordering an S5ii or S5iix from Adorama or B&H you can get up to $400 off of up to 2 lenses. I just ordered my S5ii and got the 35mm and 85mm Lumix S primes.

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! Great deal :)

Like mention in the video. Lumix L mounts are made for video , Sigma is made for photos. I have the 35mm 1.8 and 50 1.8. Both are great lens. Will be doing some video content soon showcasing these lens. The 35mm 1.8 is the only lens needed for someone who wants to be behind the camera more then in front.

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

I agree, Lumix genuinely did such a great job with that lineup of lenses, and they came at a time when people were worried about lens selection in the lower price categories. It's only a matter of time before other third parties like Samayang also jump on the L-Mount bandwagon, and then in a few years time it'll be almost as fleshed out as the E-Mount, making the L-Mount ecosystem one of the most exciting and viable options on the market :)

@orinorio1

11 ай бұрын

@@JoshCameron Yeah. Lumix for me is the always sitting the bench mark for video. And it will only get better. Lumix really does feel like the new kid on the block and those who where there from the start are now seeing the benefits of not being with Sony or Canon. My personally thinking is . When you buy a Canon or Sony you're paying for the camera and the brand name. With Lumix your paying for the camera. Its not about the Brand as such but how good the camera is.

@CameraChandu

3 ай бұрын

Hey. I'm having lumix s5iix with 50mm. Should I go with 35mm or 24mm. For Filming short movies

@orinorio1

3 ай бұрын

@@CameraChandu Hi would get the 35mm. I have the 35m 1.8..35mm is what films are normally shot on. Its viewed as the perfect focal length. 24m can be used to but its more for self shooting. Think the 35m is cheaper then the 24m too. As Lumix knows the 18 and 24m are bought by volgers retaher the those who wanna make film's.

@CameraChandu

3 ай бұрын

@@orinorio1 can I go with 85mm and 24-105 zoom lens. I have 50mm.

I use the AF/MF switch a lot

Are the Lumix S series focus by wire? Because that would be absolutely horrible for manual focus pulling...

@aldolega

Жыл бұрын

They are, but remember that Panasonic bodies let you switch the focus response to linear, and to adjust the focus throw. So not as ideal for manual pulling as a fully manual lens, but much better than most fly-by-wire lenses.

We need a L-Squared Version of this S-Series Primes. Same Panasonic Lens but with Leica inputs and modification on the optics.

I wonder, as your favourite lenses are the sigma 28-70 and 16-28, if they also have the color shift compared to the s series lenses??? Also if you set the camera to auto aperture mode, do the sigma lenses have hard stops and the Lumix are smooth? Thank you

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

For video , in priority modes where the aperture is done for you, the transition between F stops is a lot smoother with the lumix lenses. I cant comment on the colour shift with the 28-70 and 16-28 though as I haven't done that comparison, but I can always do that and get back to you :)

@Nils_Samp

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshCameron thank you. that would be great if you could quickly just compare 2 lumix s lenses and the 2 sigma zoom lenses. But seems it didn't annoy you up until now or dont you mix those two lens series in a single project?

@Nils_Samp

11 ай бұрын

@joshcameron could u please compare the lenses , just a quick clip of each to compare colors?

What I really like in the S series is smooth transition in aperture changes when shooting video in shutter priority - at least that’s how the 18mm reacts compared to my Sigma 24-70mm Art series.

@Nils_Samp

Жыл бұрын

Do you know if the sigma 16-28 and 28-70 also have hard stops if set to auto aperture? Only the Lumix ones are smooth?

just got the 24 35 and 50 panasonic primes... they are little, the clarity is amazing... i have nothing bad to say about them ;)

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

They're great, I only really use the 1.8 Primes nowadays, along with the Sigma 28-70 :)

hi sir I am india Sigma 105mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art Lens for Leica L purchase to lens worthly for my photograpy ?

@CameraChandu

3 ай бұрын

Hey which lumix camera you have

The Sigma Lenses feel very premium in hand and on the camera compared to my Lumix glasses but one issue I find is I'm always spinning the aperture rings by accident when putting on or taking off the sigma lenses which normally slows me down if I'm in a hurry to get a shot, and I've noticed the autofocus in videos is very slow compared to when using the Lumix lenses. I try my best to work around those issues though because I love how they feel and their built-quality. I also love the image quality they produce at their price point but if I was supposed to choose between them and the Lumix glasses, I'd go Lumix without a second thought. P.S. Great video as usual Josh, waiting for you to try some TTArtisan glass lol

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

The build quality is one thing that sigma have always excelled in, and while the I series primes are slightly heavier than the S Series Primes still, it's not too noticeable. I have tried some TTArtisans glass, in fact I have another lens in from them currently that I'm testing!

@ChevaughnBeckford

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshCameron Nice, looking forward to that video man.

I just got the S5iiX and got the two lens bundle with it that includes the 50mm 1.8. I agree with all that you say, but I do find the lens really lacking in character.

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

That's what filters are for 😜

@angusmackay7281

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshCameron , I was meaning more in terms of bokeh, fall-off etc. They're fine and clean, just not much character. I guess that's true of most modern lenses.

@angusmackay7281

Жыл бұрын

Love your channel though, Josh, it really helped me commit to the S5iiX and I'm really glad that I did.

You tested the sharpness with the worst lens of the SIgma lineup and the best one from Lumix. Try the 24 mm.

Don‘t forget that the Lumix primes are fully weather sealed. Therefore they‘re a bit bigger than the Sigmas 👍

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

Forgot to mention that! You're right!

Thanks for this comparison! I’m so glad I invested in the Lumix S prime series! The whole ecosystem JUST WORKS and I can now stop focusing on gear and finally focus on creating like never before!

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

THIS ^ is exactly how I feel as well!

Are those really less than 600$ in the US? In Europe, the Sigma 50mm has always been 700€. I've not watched this video yet but at that price point, there's unfortunately no reason for me to do so.

I thought the Art series is considered the primes for Sigma, not the Contemporary lenes?

@kingsamvisuals

Жыл бұрын

Wrong. The art series is the high end. Contemporary is midrange. Both have zooms and primes.

@colingregg

Жыл бұрын

Is your S5II very soft on your face.

@Nocturnal_Mind

Жыл бұрын

@kingsamvisuals well seeing how the Art series is still cheaper than the S series but better than the contemporary series so they would be a better comparison. And as for Prime title of Sigmas I just mean they are the better of the 2 with lower aperture and better build quality so out of the I's and Art series I would say the Art are Sigmas L mount primes.

@seqord

Жыл бұрын

​@@Nocturnal_Mind perhaps premium is a better term, little confusing to say prime in that context.

@Nocturnal_Mind

Жыл бұрын

@@seqord I agree, I should have said premium.

I remember having a little play with the Sigma 17mm back in Wales. I was fond of the metal construction, small size and the tactile controls, but would be better if the aperture was consistent across them all. 👀

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

They're lovely lenses, and if you didn't have any others to test in a side by side comparison then you'd be super happy with the results! The Lumix primes are just next level though, especially in this price point! Hope you're good dude!

@leisurelypaice

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshCameron Yeah they look like they'd do a great job. Yeah all good my man!

I'm really surprised at this. I expected the Sigmas to be better. Glad I'm committed to the 1.8 primes.

@harryvlogs7833

Жыл бұрын

Really I wouldn't as panasonic glass is great

@damianp5968

11 ай бұрын

Because it's better this youtuber is clearly sponsored by panasonic

@harryvlogs7833

11 ай бұрын

@@damianp5968 clearly isn't stop making up stuff

I was a strictly Canon shooter until the s5ii came out, which I bought specifically for the lens selection and video capabilities to compliment my r5. The RF lenses are undeniably great (although outrageously expensive), particularly the 15-35mm f/2.8, the 70-200mm f/2.8 and the L series primes, but the the S primes might be my favorite lens series ever. The S series lenses are small, sharp, durable and, as you demonstrate here, control focus breathing better than any other lens series in the industry. I could not be more impressed with the S series, especially when you account for the value, being a fraction of the cost of Canon RF L series glass.

@ChevaughnBeckford

Жыл бұрын

Gone are the days when Canon (EF and EF-S) lenses used to be some of the cheapest on the market lol

@fredriksvard2603

5 ай бұрын

The lumix 85 breathes quite a lot, i "downgraded" to the 50mm for that reason and will find some vintage lens in the 85-135 range.

hmmm... rather superficially and non-detailed, particularly the direct comparison of all lenses (only the 24 2.0 was described..) and: the main reason for me to stay with the Sigma Lenses is their undobtly excellent mechanical quality in comparison to the fake-metal bodies of the Pan lenses, feeling hollow and imprecise .. their greatest advantage is a rather under "exposed" feature: they all share the same front filter diameter, meanwhile the Sigma vary between 49 and 62 mm...

I think the Panasonic lenses are too sharp and I think I like the slightly softer Sigma look.

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

You can always use a mist filter :)

Great video but please start using a deesser, you S’s are very whistly it is distracting.

night sky fotography would had been interesting! I consider getting an UW prime together with a Sigma 28-70 or 24-70, but struggle to pick between: a) Lumix 18/1.8 b) Sigma 20/2.0 c) Sigma 20/1.4 d) Sigma 16-28/2.8

@m-stat9

11 ай бұрын

they‘re all less than 900 bucks and 700 grams… oh and it‘s 50% video (mostly with the main zoom) and 50% photos (mostly landscape + astro)

Heard Samyang's joining the L mount.

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

That's going to be interesting! Just shows that other companies are now seeing the importance of this system :)

I had the 65mm f2 from sigma for e-mount. Wanted to love it but was underwhelmed, overly heavy, AF was slow.

Great comparison for affordable L mount lenses You didn’t mention chromatic aberration that the lumix have, … Reason why I sold them all…

As a video man i would never buy a lense with focus breathing so lumix lenses for me

@McMurphy13

Ай бұрын

LUMIX lenses have most focus breathing 🤷🏻‍♂️

@castielvargastv7931

Ай бұрын

@@McMurphy13 this is not true lumix lenses have almost no breathing as most of them are optimized for filming. Lumix is not sony

@McMurphy13

Ай бұрын

@@castielvargastv7931 sigma is better no focal breathing

1:20 "The only physical switch...is the AF/MF ... and who actually uses that anyway?" Not sure if you are making a joke or not, but I use that switch on my Lumix lenses when I shoot real estate photography. For most of my tripod shots I'm in MF, and when I take handheld shots I usually switch to AF.

@JoshCameron

Жыл бұрын

It was a little bit of a joke! But also kinda rings true for me as I very rarely touch the AF/MF switch (I'll normally just do it via the AF switch on the camera) !

nobody uses autofocus for filmmaking lol

THIS CHANNEL IS BIASED AND TALKS ONLY PANASONIC, WHERE OTHER KZreadRS DO TALK ABOUT SIGMA LENSES AND PRAISE THEM. STOP YOUR BIASNESS JOSH