0:40 Thats "You Pick Tuesday" sorry about the mix up

Shawn Ray once said that just standing there Paul Dillett was the greatest ever, I’d like to see a video to see if he was right? A front relaxed shot pitching Dillett against the greatest bodybuilders of all time. Paul did look absolutely awesome in the front “relaxed” shot.

@jasonito23

10 ай бұрын

Now they say Andrew Jacked has the best front relaxed of all time.

@cncaliguy09

10 ай бұрын

Paul looked great in all side and front shots. I saw his 93 rear lat spread and rear double. Amateurs would smoke him. Worst back poses since 93. He had a big back too, shame

@tyrantworm7392

10 ай бұрын

I never saw them competing against each other, or even Paul at his best, but in person it was really hard not to be blown away by Paul. Mad shoulder to waist ratio, thick pecs and back, big balanced legs and arms (comparing directly with a lot of the other dudes around 90-91).

@wuhhlfarg5578

10 ай бұрын

Good video idea actually

@josephohrablo4866

10 ай бұрын

If they gave a Mr Olympia to a physique just standing there , no flexing no “front relaxed “ just literally standing there showing the structure , Paul would win 20 times

Shawn Ray is in my top 5 of all time. Just a beautiful physique.

@Jesse-df9fz

10 ай бұрын

don't like his personality but you gotta admit he had a perfect physique.

@raditzdaimao1357

10 ай бұрын

Great physique absolute asshole of a human

@Realistic316

10 ай бұрын

yea i would probably choose his physique for myself… but he lacked the size to win a Mr Olympia

@thebodybeatdownDiTi

10 ай бұрын

@@Realistic316 yeah i guess..its too bad 212 wasnt around..or so i dont think it was in the 90s..that physique deserved some praise for sure.

@Realistic316

10 ай бұрын

@@thebodybeatdownDiTi yea definitely a pleasing physique to look at👍🏼… and i know right, a 212 division would’ve been great… he would’ve dominated.

I really, really, really love and appreciate your consistency and immense effort Marx!!! The KZread bodybuilding landscape would never be the same without you ❤

Good job making this comparison. Didn't realize Paul Dillet was top 6 that many times.

@yussefcheaitou

10 ай бұрын

imagine getting top 6 posing like a 1 month gym goer

@AjL727

10 ай бұрын

Especially for how terrible his back was but he was an absolute monster from the front

Man I love this channel, I’m here for the content but the sense humor is too notch

@shaundavidssd

Ай бұрын

He's quality ,more creators like him plz lol

One of your best in quite a while. You know what I’m sayin!!!

WOW excellent work!!!

Awesome vid idea. Going into the video my mind already was thinking about 2009, 2013, 1999. I actually think 96 might edge out 99. Ronnie Coleman aside, 96 had a better Ray, Levrone, Nasser. They're close but I think when all 6 guys are factored in I'd probably give a slight edge to 96. 09 and 13 were just crazy line ups. Look how good everyone (aside from branch maybe) looks in the front double! I think from a judging standpoint 2013 is probably the best year, followed by 2009 then maybe 99.

Great dedication to the sport in this video!

1993 dorian 95 also 🔥🔥

Yep 99 is tuff to beat! Great comparisons and theme

Cool topic Mark! About to check this one out.

Wonderful idea for a video. I got introduced to a couple of new names

Great comparison 🎯

nice vid here

Excellence

Props to Shawn Ray for being Mr. Consistent from 1993 - 2001 with a Top 5 (or better) placing every year during this 9-year run. He never won the O, but unless your name was Dorian or Ronnie, nobody else won the O during this 9-year span, either.

@Chocolatesauce._

3 ай бұрын

Shawn should’ve won atleast two especially in 1994 and could even make an argument for 96 n 1990 too but politics screwed his placings a few times

Hey mark what do you think happen to Kevin? Did he stay on the gas too long during his run? I know he didn't like placing but it does seem like he started to loose some size as well?

got a feeling 2023 will be a top contender now, hope andrew can get his posterior chain conditioned, samson gets better, lunsford too, hadi bringing his best, maybe Krizo with some better posing and back and ramy or brandon fixing their own problems.

11:43 they brought it back at the 2020 Olympia

90s was great but..some of these guys are smoking them from the 2010's to 22..nostalgia plays a huge part..

@doublem1975x

10 ай бұрын

The Heath bubble gut era was the worst of all time

@notronex4349

10 ай бұрын

Who is smoking Levrone, Cormier or Coleman? I can see guys giving flex run for his money in the back shots, but...Except Phils best years, nobody is beating any of these 3 guys. Phils other versions dont even come close to beating them. I agree with doublem1963. The era was horrible. And dont even mention Kai, his midsection was bigger than his chest

@bobjohnson1633

10 ай бұрын

The new guys aren't smoking them. They have bad condition, or missing body parts, or a horrible shape and symmetry.

@thebodybeatdownDiTi

10 ай бұрын

@@bobjohnson1633 you mean missing parts like Dorians arms? Levrone's legs and back? Lee Priest's back? Flex's oil? The list goes on and on. EVERY generation of bodybuilders has its issues. The guys today are more bubbly larger and heavier. Conditioning isnt as far off as we like to think.

My favorite line ups are the following(not in order) 1993, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2009, 2013, 2020

always thought the early 2000s was kind of a continuation of the late 90s but looking at these lineups there was a crazy decrease in quality, only ronnie continued to look good

Hunters back is looking very good compared to his last showing imo. Overall package looks improved.

@Jesse-df9fz

10 ай бұрын

he brought up a ton, hunter with improved back and good condition is so dangerous to the top 5

@flasha1204

10 ай бұрын

@@Jesse-df9fz i swear he's not

@Jesse-df9fz

10 ай бұрын

@@flasha1204 well you're plain wrong lol. dude took 4th with a worse physique than what he has now 2 years ago. granted I don't think he should have placed over nick but that doesnt matter he still did.

@flasha1204

10 ай бұрын

@@Jesse-df9fz i m pretty sure 4th place at Olympia will be his absolute best in his carreer. He doesn't have genetics, condition or structure to be Mr.O

@lean2260

10 ай бұрын

@@flasha1204 he have his dad

If we talk about greatness, 2013 has 4 mr olympia winners at some point...1999 only 1...bur yeah 1999 maybe better idk...difficult to say, the pictures of the 90s a bit blurry...great vidoe so!

Without even start to watch... 1999

2023 is gonna be the best soon with an even better Derek, Samson, Andrew and maybe even a better Nick Walker 💪

1971 had the best top 6. Every single guy that year has won the Olympia, and more than once. Facts.

2013 has 4 olympia champs in the top 6. Doesn't that alone kind of edge out 1999 in terms of prestige?

@Jesse-df9fz

10 ай бұрын

If you injected the 2013 top 6 into the 99 olympia they'd without a doubt displace the top 6 aside from Ronnie. Ronnie would still probably win or be in contention with Phil but the rest of them would just get knocked back. Kevin, Nasser, Flex are just too soft to stand next to the 13 top 6 and Ray is just too damn small.

92 93 98 99 had insane top 6

best Arnold top 6's 96 Levrone, Flex, Dillet, Vince Taylor, Shawn Ray, A. Munzer 97 Flex, Nasser, M. Francois, R. Coleman, Vince Taylor, Dillet

The 70's was like the Americas being discovered. The 90's was the move west in the 1800's these guys were trailblazers in size and condition that would change everything

1993 no doubt about it

Is it Friday already?!?!?

no man im telling you 2002 was the wildest

1993 for me.

i would say 98 and 96

Man’s this is a tough one. I agree with 99 but think about 2013 and 5 Mr O’s making up top 5, interesting. Only 1 Mr O in 99

@JuiceTubes

10 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing, except isn't it 4 Mr O's out 6 people? Jay, Dex, Phil, Shawn

@markerpelding292

10 ай бұрын

Right I meant 4💪

Love Chris Cormier physique

Dorian yates

Why did the pics of 2017 have no Roelly when he’s top 6? I mean you’d think the picture would be correct with Curry.. kinda weird.

98 best lineup of the 90s and 2009 best lineup od the 2000s so far.

conditioning wise 93 has to be the best Apart from Levrone who was slightly off due to the pec tear earlier that year, everyone was peeled, even Dillett and Labrada. In 99 only Coleman and Cormier were close to their best condition, Nasser Ray Wheeler and Levrone were all kinda off. depth wise 95 96 98 are the best

@doublem1975x

10 ай бұрын

Ray off? 99 was probably Shawn Ray’s best year, ditto for Coleman and Cormier. Say what you want about Flex but many people regard his 99 Olympia as great. Flex himself said he was at his best in 99. Levrone was good in 99 but I think his pro tan was a bit too dark. 99 right up there with the best years ever. Only one who was really off was Nasser who didn’t deserve to be in the top 6.

@TheLusianPopa

10 ай бұрын

@@doublem1975x Compared to 92,93,94 and 96 ?Yes OFF. Wasnt even as good as 95 or 97 when he was really good( not insane tho). Ray himself said his prime was 92-97. Many noobs maybe. Flexs best was the 98 AC and 93 AC thats it. 99 he was soft asf and site enhanced as hell, and lucky to get 2nd on name alone. Levrone was good but not his best . And Cormier was sharper in 98, clearly.99 was just fuller( same for Ronnie).My friend who attended ALL mr Os 88-2019 told me this very thing and pics/vidz show it. Nasser was on the decline yes, but he was still huge and really good in some poses. While Priest was a bit sharper, he wasnt as big or imposing and was still new to the scene.

@doublem1975x

10 ай бұрын

@@TheLusianPopa I’d say Ray started declining in 2000-2001. 92-93 Ray was too bottom heavy quad dominant and even more narrow. 99 and 96 were the best versions of Shawn Ray imo. Yeah personally I think Flex’s best ever look was 98 AC/IM but many people, including ppl who were there liked his 99 look too. What good poses did Nasser have in 99? He looked horrible imo and massive decline from 6 months earlier at AC. Dexter, Lee and maybe Dillet should’ve placed ahead of him imo.

@TheLusianPopa

10 ай бұрын

@@doublem1975x I was referring to his level of conditioning. Not when he was the most balanced...A bb BEST version is almost always his best condition.Not his best phisique....thats why 99 isnt Ronnies best , despit ebeing his least flawed version( no gyno of 98, no distension of 01 asc) 99 wasnt much better than 98 .2001 he wasnt declining , he was UTTER CRAP.Placed on name alone.Even the Flex report said Dex and Melvin dominated him in comparisons ALL front poses still looked very good on nasser, side chest too. That was apparently enough to pip priest .Dillett? if Dillett looked like in 93-94 sure but he was on decline also. Dexter was on his debut and had a gallon of oil in his calves. You really think he was gonna make top 6 ? esp in that era one had to pay his dues

@doublem1975x

10 ай бұрын

@@TheLusianPopa That isn’t true if you look back in history. Most people regard 95 Yates as the best version but it wasn’t his most dry conditioned version or most symmetrical or his biggest but rather all round best (muscularity, condition, symmetry). 91 Haney is considered best version but not as conditioned as say 87, ditto with Arnold whose best is almost universally considered 73-74 when he was at his heaviest and best shape not 71 when he was his most conditioned version. Conditioning is very important, yeah, but it’s not everything. Kamal would’ve beaten Andrew Jack at Texas pro last year if conditioning was the be all end all. It’s more subjective with Coleman because he brought a number of very different looks to the stage. If you think 98 is the best, that’s fine ,but just saying it’s the best simply because of condition is silly and isn’t supported by history. Rays decline started in 2000, ok happy? Lol 😝 2001 was downsized and off..but utter crap? I think that’s a bit harsh. Tbh he looked just about the same every single year, that was one of his biggest criticisms. Same boring slow R&B music dancing routine and same look. Upper body filled out a little bit by 95. Did Dorian have to pay his dues when he debuted at 2nd, did Flex? Did Kevin? Did Phil when he debuted at 3rd. That’s bs and u know it. Nasser looked like shit and had no business in the finals. Flex had escaline and pump n pose in all his muscles and it didn’t hurt his placings.

1993 is the most insane line up ever

@ytsux9259

10 ай бұрын

Nope! Either '96 or '98!

@doublem1975x

10 ай бұрын

1995, 1998 & 1999 were better imo.

2022 my fav olympia of all time. Very competitive & didnt know who would win so easily unlike 1999/2013

@Gnybr

10 ай бұрын

No, 1998 was that way and most bodybuilding fans and experts before the 2022 Olympia said Ramy was going to win easily.

@liamflynn6929

10 ай бұрын

​@@Gnybrand yet he ended up in 5th

Best top 6 was when Dorian Levrone Shawn Flex Labrada Dillett......but the Ronnie Flex Levrone Ruhl Nasser Gunther maybe was better...

crazy how much oil these guys used to use in their arms haha

98 or 99 imo

First

@ElGordo23

10 ай бұрын

Why do people still comment this

@yoshiike1

10 ай бұрын

​@@ElGordo23definitely lame

@doublem1975x

10 ай бұрын

@@yoshiike1suck it

There’s 4 mr o in 2013 lineup lol

I must admit, what seemed like a great idea (and hats off to the research) turned out to be a complicated, confusing mess ! My idea of worst haircuts in bodybuilding would have been way better.

@noaha6185

10 ай бұрын

Biggest/best posing trunk bulges in bodybuilding!

@notronex4349

10 ай бұрын

Bro Jay Cutler 2011 wins that easily. Maybe Kai has a shot aswell in some years

Günther pronounciation getting crisp!

I'm 43. I don't want to sound old saying *_it was better in the 90s BUT it was* and it's just not me 😂 That's why posing videos of Yates, Ray, Levrone, Flex & Ronnie remain incredibly popular. Phil Heath? Not so much.

2009 was the best lineup according to me

@TheLusianPopa

10 ай бұрын

kai was way off, phil was food poisoned and off and martinez not his best NO

'98 King Ronnie vs '2023 Arnold's Andrew Jacked.

@aaronslifts

10 ай бұрын

For what? To see how things haven't progressed

@notronex4349

10 ай бұрын

Jacked is good, yea. His proportions are very good. But he is not close To the top guys from early 2010s and not even close to guys like Levrone, Flex etc let alone Ron Coleman.

You can’t say Shawn ray is equal to flex in terms of “greatness” they competed against each other 8 times flex only lost to Shawn twice

If everyone was in their primes, 1996 would be the greatest Olympia line up ever. Video idea? 😅

how on earth did Lee Labrada beat Kevin and Paul in 93, he is completely dwarfed

@doublem1975x

10 ай бұрын

Kevin had a torn pec and was off. Paul hmmm good question.

@MikeG82

10 ай бұрын

@@doublem1975x lee being a little sharper shouldn't compensate for being literaly half their size, just look at the comparisons in this video

@notronex4349

10 ай бұрын

I dont know, but Kevin continued to be a legendary bodybuilder and honestly my favorite psychique of all time(1997 Findalnd Grand Prix) So I think this is just a minor. Paul on the other hand was fantastic that year. No idea tbh

@bobjohnson1633

10 ай бұрын

Lee being BETTER absolutely compensates for being shorter. Don't be dense.

@MikeG82

10 ай бұрын

@@bobjohnson1633 how was he better? my two eyes compensates for being "dense" and it wasn't just height it was muscle size and overall structure, like Lee had literally nothing on them

I know what you’re sziiiing 😅

1996 or 1998 is your answer

@notronex4349

10 ай бұрын

Definetly! 1996 Is the best lineup ever. Legends!

@Gnybr

10 ай бұрын

@@notronex4349 Either 1996 or 1999 in terms of names. But in terms of actual top 6 and how they look at that show I'd give the slight edge to 1998. All of them in the top 6 brought their A-game except for maybe Shawn.

How would 13 Phil beat 20 Ramy easily? I highly disagree with that point.

@notronex4349

10 ай бұрын

yeah lol. He would beat him but not easily. He would be absolutelly dwarfed in size - heck, even small Levrone wasnt too far from phils size. Imagine Coleman or Dorian next to him

@notronex4349

10 ай бұрын

I feel like people really underestimate the thing that his photos from 2013 are taken under super super good lighting

@Jesse-df9fz

10 ай бұрын

he would definitely beat him but it wouldnt be easy ramy was very good in 20'

@Gnybr

10 ай бұрын

@@notronex4349 People overestimate Phil and underestimate Ramy. The reason Phil managed to beat Ramy between 2013-2018 was due to much superior conditioning. Size wise Ramy always dwarfed Phil on stage. If conditioning would be close however (which 2020 Ramy is to 2013 Phil) Ramy would win. Jay even said this to Phil at the 13 Olympia that if Ramy nails it nobody is beating him in that lineup including Phil.

@Gnybr

10 ай бұрын

@@Jesse-df9fz No he wouldn't. 20 Ramy's conditioning was at the same level as 13 Phil's conditioning but Ramy would utterly dwarf Phil in size just like he always did but this time with good conditioning as well.

I'm tired of this... Victor Martinez was a poster boy that lacks mass, 3d look, just basic development on mr Olympia level, like Phil, Kai, Jay... He was just looking nice and every one hating Jay, thats all. And the History proves it: Victor just disappeared. I know about jail, but nevertheless

I don't understand how Dorian could win '94 and '95 (especially '95!). 🤦🥴 Baty should have won in '95 and 96.

@MikeG82

10 ай бұрын

95 was arguably his all time best, 94 he was off but still the best in the mandatory poses

@dj_m1999

10 ай бұрын

'95 was his best ever you nonce

@ytsux9259

10 ай бұрын

​@@MikeG82No way! In '95, his abs were washed out; one bicep was deformed while the other was small and not separated; and more.

@mitswO

10 ай бұрын

95 was a massacre of Dorian vs the rest the photos of that Olympia are not very good, but there are videos that show the conditioning of Dorian vs the rest of the bodybuilders

@doublem1975x

10 ай бұрын

Nasser couldn’t pose to save his life and had a few mediocre compulsories.

I always say Dorian ruined bodybuilding. And I stick by that. What I mean is , by coming in so big in 93 he forced everyone else to covet size and the biggest difference between then and now is the midsections. And we have Dorian to thank for that. This video illustrates what I mean very well.

@TheLusianPopa

10 ай бұрын

And ill flip your argument and say RONNIE destroyed pro bodybuilding Dorian in 93 was basically a flawless package-He was huge, he was complete, balanced and shredded beyond belief. Ronnie 98 had gyno, a poorly balanced lower body( never had calves) and a crap midsection. Yes even though in 98 -99 waist was small in terms of girth, his abs shape still sucked and the definition sucked just as bad. Dorian in 93 had a flat etched 6 pack abs while being 10 lb heavier than the 98 Coleman.Dorian had a relatively wide waist but thats genetics.Ronnie started his reign with a waist like Wheeler and ended it with a waist as WIDE as cutlers but far more distended than Dorians ever was.Yes FAR MORE DISTENDED. Ronnies gut in 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004 was appaling and a shame. And Ronnie also ruined the art of posing. During his reign hohum posing routines became acceptable. Dorians routines were far better, and he was always more cheered than Ronnie-footage shows it. During his reign glutes and distended guts became common place. Ronnies legacy is way worse than Dorians in that regard Also Ronnie turned bodybuilding into strictly a size sport. Dorian brought in huge size in 93 yes but he always came in shredded also.Ronnie in the 2000s sacrificed his symmetry and conditoining to come in heavy as a truck and full and watery, especially after the scares he had with Cutler 2001 and Gunter 2002. Yates always overdieted to some extent, Ronnie didnt, on the contrary. Ronnie was LUCKY to have genetically lean hams/glutes and because he got away with that everyone followed suit. So now you have tons of guys , just like Ronnie-striated glutes but washed out abs which is an oddity. If you want further ownage i can go on

@heisman987

10 ай бұрын

@@TheLusianPopa ownage? You basically proved my point. Yates started the size gain. The insulin belly’s started with him. You wouldn’t have had Ronnie if it wasn’t for Yates. Yates is probably what ruined wheeler forever. And guy like wheeler and levrone started to blow up because of Yates. I don’t disagree with everything you said about Ron. But it started with Dorian.

@TheLusianPopa

10 ай бұрын

@@heisman987 i say the mass rule started with Haney...he was much larger than the rest of the top 6 in the 1980s Dorian was huge no doubt but you had guys that were heavier than him on stage, from 318 lb Ferrigno in 93, to 285 lb Nasser in 96, 280 lb JP Fux... Wheeler didnt start getting too big until after losing the Olympia to Ronnie in 98 Flex said he was 227 in the 98 mr O and then in 99 came in at 242-43 It is true that some judge , apparently told Flex , he needs more size to beat Yates....but Flex didnt actually start focusing on size until the loss to Ronnie in 98 Levrone was at his biggest around 96-99, around 250-55 ish, and he got fourth place every year then

@bobjohnson1633

10 ай бұрын

I have to disagree. Dorian was bigger, but he still had great shape and symmetry. Even Ronnie's first few years had that crazy shape and symmetry. Ronnie wasn't blown out in the mid section early on. It's everybody competing with their size that's the problem. Almost every body else was better being smaller and more conditioned.

If Hany Rambod would have been the trainer of Roelly Winklaar since 2010. I think that Roelly would have been a constant presence in the top 3 Mr. Olympia.