If I had a dollar for every time I hear Ray Tracing I could buy a 4090

@patrickbrault8411

2 ай бұрын

You CANNOT do ray tracing on 4060's even with frame upscaling. In wish that all reviewers would state it.

@ted_van_loon

2 ай бұрын

2 rtx 4080 super cost around as much and is faster, double RX 7900 XTX cost less and also is much faster

@peterholtz6729

2 ай бұрын

I turn it of does almost zero for most games.

@HunterTracks

2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile, if I had a $100 for every time I've played a game with RT, I'd still be $100 short of a 4060.

@cocosloan3748

2 ай бұрын

Питу Гули - респект 🙌

best gpus of 2024 are from 2022

@eugenijusdolgovas9278

2 ай бұрын

Because the new gen is gonna be launched this year. If not, expect price hikes and even worse generation than that of 4000.

Ай бұрын

@@eugenijusdolgovas9278 Difference is - all they have to offer is more ray tracing and AI, for vastly more money, while we are mostly content with 100+ on rasterization at 1440p ultra, which is 2022 hardware.

@jamesfox2857

Ай бұрын

6950xt = if you can find one is a goat saphire + then the red devil top dogs blowing away many 4000 series alone , but a 7000 series upgrade would sell nice for next gen if you wanted to grab a fresh upgrade to the 8000 or 9000 series , which ever they are going to call it , next gen

@eugenijusdolgovas9278

Ай бұрын

GOAT is 1080 Ti. I never found a reason to pull more power and got myself 6800 XT.

@Dankyjrthethird

Ай бұрын

And the best GPUs in 2025 will be from 2023

for viewers: Tim did not call Steve back from his vacation to test 14900KS, hence Tim is still making videos for us

@mukkah

2 ай бұрын

X'D

@benjaminoechsli1941

2 ай бұрын

KS stands for "Killer Steve", because Steve would kill Tim and bury him in the Outback if Tim ruined his vacation for... that product. 😂

You should do a graph at the end specifically highlighting which card in which bracket is best

@not1but2and37

2 ай бұрын

Yes. Less talking, please.

@sammiller6631

2 ай бұрын

@@not1but2and37 You can read the exact same information in his article on TechSpot, which has zero talking. Why are you watching video if you don't want talking?

@tommyb6611

2 ай бұрын

@@sammiller6631 probably the same reason people that want to buy self driving cars.. If you don't want to drive, why the hell do you buy a car?!?! go take the subway or a bus

@sammiller6631

Ай бұрын

@@tommyb6611 You can't take a subway or bus if there is none. Sounds like you've always lived in a large city.

Remember that the GTX 1080 TI released at $699

@Eleganttf2

2 ай бұрын

in 2017, and your point is ?

@Omega-mr1jg

2 ай бұрын

Which was so good that it beat even cards in the RTX series. Most recent cards dont even have more vram than 1080

@dinckelman

2 ай бұрын

@@Eleganttf2 It's really not that difficult to understand. 1080ti was the best card in the regular lineup, for 700$ asking price. A couple incremental generational upgrades later, and we have a card that is somehow over TRIPLE the money.

@tankerock

2 ай бұрын

@@Eleganttf2 $699 (2017) adjusted for inflation is only $895 (2024) for the top card.

@laurentiudll

2 ай бұрын

And a card that offers latest features, 16gb, triple performance and ray tracing, costs 550$. The rx 7900 GRE is a hidden gem

Best garbage is still garbage.

@xpodx

2 ай бұрын

What's your gpu?

@montreauxs

2 ай бұрын

Still works though..

@brandonmunda346

2 ай бұрын

Rx580 8gb asus​@@xpodx

@xpodx

2 ай бұрын

@brandonmunda346 okay. So you're saying it's trash but you card is weak af ha

@Muffin-777

2 ай бұрын

Bro be thankful that they exist and people can still use them and buy them in the first place

Staying with my RX 6800 XT and 5800X3D for the foreseeable future.

@tradingnichols2255

2 ай бұрын

Oh, right on, very similar to what I built until I bought a 5950x just because I really don't game, so soon the wife will have 5800x3d with a 6800. :) I do more production than anything. Makes more sense. LOL

@unholydonuts

2 ай бұрын

Upgrading graphics card and cpu every generation rarely makes sense.

@tradingnichols2255

2 ай бұрын

@@unholydonuts I fairly frequently buy both because of production reasons, but if I just gamed I couldn't possibly justify it. I really tried on a setup for my wife to go AM5, for more "future proofing", but I have more AM4/previous gen Intel type parts laying around and even if I didn't, the price drop and newer things still costing more for what it does just didn't make sense for the performance needed. My wife and I have used identical laptops for 4 or 5 years and they were not high end then. This upgrade to real PC's is absolutely massive and cost less. They sell barely better laptops all these years later in a similar category. (They replaced 1650 on low end gaming laptops with 3050 🤦‍♂️) At work, another department boss needed a massively powerful computer for my colleague. Or so he thought. I ended up getting him an i5 desktop quite a few generations old but it's like 13% faster than my 13 or 14th gen i5 laptop. My coworker is hugely happy with it...but his boss originally looked at specs from his server login...I don't think he realizes he checked on his virtual desktop instead of his PC. It took a while, but I was like, we don't issue anyone anything that powerful and at one point it clicked. That's the server processor! 🤣 PC performance is just massively better.

@tradingnichols2255

2 ай бұрын

@@unholydonuts you inspired a great response and KZread lost it. I got typing quite a bit so I'll do the shorter version... I agree. Lol. Okay, maybe I'll say a little more than that. 😂 Having similar computing to the OP, my computers from before this weren't fast 4 years ago but they did all I needed. Cheaper gaming laptops really haven't gotten much better. Spend the same for about the same performance all these years later or go PC? Eventually, I'll need a better laptop, but if updated it's thermals, just like you do a GPU...it made it faster than when new. Was forced to get a new m.2...only better and larger than before. Had to replace memory a couple times, but replacing the whole laptop makes no sense. Okay, I went a completely different direction. Hopefully, youtube let's me send this!

@rudy_dstroys1821

2 ай бұрын

Same here but I'm using a 3080 Ti. Either way, I always play with mix settings never Max Settinfs since I hardly notice a difference.

For most people where I am from any gpu more than roughly 500$ for non commercial tasks is for tech enthusiasts only.

@peterwstacey

2 ай бұрын

Yep. The highest graphics card I know anyone having here is a 4060. I tried running onboard graphics and found the games I play still run fine at 60fps 1080p, so I'll just give up and run integrated from now on

@Seromontis

2 ай бұрын

Looks like you'll have to adjust your expectations. $700 is the new $500.

@andrewmutavi590

2 ай бұрын

True,Ive gone used for every card since 2018,recently upgraded to a 3080 12gb from an RX 5700(non xt),keeping an eye on the 7900GRE,as soon as new generation hit,am hunting that down in the used section

@duLouser

2 ай бұрын

​@@SeromontisOr, and try to follow me on this one, people won't adjust and there's a huge portion of potential buyers that haven't updated recently and continue to postpone it. People that are still using a 2060,1060,1650,1070,480/580 and such. A quick look at the steam hardware survey still shows these types of cards as the #2,#3 and #4 popular graphics accelerators. I believe there will be a zen-like moment for GPUs, it just won't be AMD that does it this time. The market is ripe for the taking.

@michaellandon8901

2 ай бұрын

Make that $400, anything higher is stupid. Nvidia has just conditioned consumers to think these prices are not a disgrace.

I'm surprised the 7900 GRE isn't more popular. It generally seems like a good deal for the performance

@ants9230

2 ай бұрын

Just got one delivered at the weekend - a Sapphire Pure. It's generally around 40% faster than my 3070 and no more stuttering due to insufficent VRAM. It's also extremely quiet, even under load. I'm very happy with it so far.

@laurentiudll

2 ай бұрын

​@@ants9230just got one and it arrived, same pure white version. Unbelievable performance, triple that of 1080ti, with ray tracing and 16gb. All that for 550.

@HurricaneSparky

2 ай бұрын

It's also very new in the US market, though. A lot of people probably already bought the 7800 XT or something similar, since those were around that price point for a long while.

@matheussantos9367

2 ай бұрын

I got a Nitro+, still waiting for delivery but excited to try it out. It was just $30 more than the 7800XT Nitro+, so I thought it was very good value

@meltinsr

2 ай бұрын

That gpu need bios update its a 7900xt with limited vram speed or underclocked

I bought 6750 XT for cheaper than 4060/RX 7600 4 months ago, mega deal. for competitive 1080p 144/240hz this card is perfect, no bullshit, only brutal raster performance

@etherealceleste

2 ай бұрын

I found and bought a 7800 XT for $480 on Cyber Monday. Haven't seen it that low since.

@magnusFTS

2 ай бұрын

@@etherealcelesteI’ve seen them that low a few times lately

@unholydonuts

2 ай бұрын

@etherealceleste $480 was the price of a new 6800 XT last year, and 7800 XT is a new 6800 XT

@helldogbe4077

2 ай бұрын

People forget quickly how bad AMD is this generation. At the current price point I would advise to buy a RTX4070 (Super or not) and just sell it again when the next gen comes out. The resell value will be so much higher than AMD. That or try to get a 6700XT, possibly on the second hand market for sub 300$.

@magnusFTS

2 ай бұрын

@@helldogbe4077 AMD has objectively the best value gpu this generation. Most people upgrade once ever 2-3 generations.

I'm a sucker for these kinds of videos. I do feel like less happened than usual, but knowing some GPU's which I do have some interest in are possibly going away is something good to consider. :) I just liked chilling with your clear and concise video. :)

2nd hand 6800XT for $570 AUD was a no brainer for me last year and I have zero regrets. The 2nd hand market is still pretty good!

Surprised NVIDIA didn't release a 4090 Ti Super

@bufalong

2 ай бұрын

because 5000 coming and faster

@MaTtRoSiTy

2 ай бұрын

My guess is if you have that much to spend you already have a 4090 and will not spend more just to get a Ti/Super model. Also if they release too much performance this gen it will start eating into the top tiers of the next gen so there is not a lot motivating Nvidia to do this

@FrozR2024

2 ай бұрын

Don't give them any ideas FFS lol

@mingyi456

2 ай бұрын

How is that surprising? Because nvidia wants to focus on AI customers, who do not care about even a 15% performance boost (from enabling the full ad102 die, pushing the cores harder, and giving it the same vram speed as the 4080 super) as long as vram capacity still remains the same.

@FrozR2024

2 ай бұрын

@@MaTtRoSiTy I refuse to buy any Nvidia as I generally don't like them. I have felt like that from when they made cards early on. Plus on the Linux side of my PC the open source AMD drivers are far and ahead of Nvidia's.

Great analysis, thank you!

these prices certainly do not align with european prices, those high end gpus cost way more here, some low end ones also cost a lot more, some mid end cost some less(realatively seen since actually when converting € to $ they are still around the same price), but it changes the value a lot

@brutalliance5187

2 ай бұрын

Yes, I bought 4080 for 1350 euros but that is fine I just didn't had other choice. Thing what bothers me now is that MPG 321URX monitor costs 950 USD in USA but will cost at least 1300 euros in Europe.

@piimen

2 ай бұрын

In EU taxes are baked into the price. When a price is presented in dollars its almost always without the local tax added if not mentioned otherwise since tax rates vary heavily in north america

@oneblacksun

2 ай бұрын

@@piimen Still don't understand why the US doesn't include tax on their prices; it's always guesswork.

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I wish I could find a 6800 16GB for 370EUR new, there are barely any 3 year old used ones (mostly mining) at that price here.

@TostonDePana

2 ай бұрын

@@oneblacksun my econ professor ten years ago said that adding sales tax to sticker had a strong effect on sales in supermarkets. people buy less when the real cost is shown to them in the aisles. indeed the most murcan reason of all to not include tax on item price.

I sure wish we would see more of these price cuts over here in the U.K. Currently, the 7700XT is well over £400, which is too much, with the 7900GRE and 7800XT being too closely priced.

The b-roll is the best part of this video. 10/10 whoever made that, outstanding job.

I picked up an ARC A770 recently on a whim to mess around with it. Then I built a system around it with a 12th gen 12600KF and an ITX board. Overall, I was surprised at how smooth it runs. I'm not trying older titles (except GTA-V, which it destroys) and it's been interesting to overclock and push in 3dMark. I'm kinda impressed.

I have the 6750 XT, definitely the best for under £350

@ivoresor222

2 ай бұрын

Watched the 2023 Best GPU guide last year and got myself a 6700 XT (close to 6750 XT but was more expensive at that time than the 6700 XT). 1 year later, still pretty happy with this card at 1080p. Had a 1070 before.

@NamTran-xc2ip

2 ай бұрын

@@ivoresor222 I used it for 4k since fsr actually is decent at that res

@etherealceleste

2 ай бұрын

@@ivoresor222 I'm still sitting on my 1070 because there are no new games that are worth a better card. However, upgrading my monitor to one of the new UW 240hz+ OLEDs might make it worth upgrading my card to push the monitor.

@Navi_xoo

2 ай бұрын

No DLSS but other than that it's okay

I have a question now that the video about upscaling was released. If ray tracing requires upscaling and the GPU can only render ray tracing at 1080p, do RT or DLSS features even matter for GPUs that target 1080p? I feel the argument is that Nvidia features only matter for 1440p or higher.

i own a radeon 6800 so it's great to know it's performing like a 7700xt but with more vram. should still last a couple more years, it runs every game still anyways

@bosquejo72

2 ай бұрын

I also bought a 6800 OC from Sapphire...Many games native 4k 60 FPS such as HALO INFINITE, Elden Ring, Scorn

@user-us6ft2sj5q

2 ай бұрын

@@bosquejo72 it's no surprise. The 6800/6800xt/6900xt were AMD's high end cards. It's only logical that they would be the cards that age better

2 ай бұрын

@@user-us6ft2sj5q Yet this channel is one of the few even acknowledging this reality for us with limited means. It's insane.

@user-us6ft2sj5q

2 ай бұрын

@ i know, it seems it's always about rtx this, rtx that. but many channels forget not everyone wants to pay 500 for a basic 4060. the 6800 at 400 is insane and so is the 6700xt at 330/350

The best GPU you can buy is the one you can afford 😉

@Dark.Syndicate

2 ай бұрын

stupid logic

@lil_gas_tank3361

2 ай бұрын

​@@Dark.Syndicate you really showed him

@Fluskar

2 ай бұрын

@@Dark.Syndicateskibidi toilet

@xpodx

2 ай бұрын

No, that's called the fastest you can afford. Doesn't mean best.

@TheSometimeAfter

2 ай бұрын

It's so clever you thought it that all by yourself!

Great video as always, thanks mate.

I would like to know exactly what games and what settings the a750 was only 10% faster than the 6600. At 1440p mid with the a580 I get about +13% difference.

All these KZread videos after the pandemic talking about constant GPU price cuts make me even more aware of the fact I live in a small country where GPUs are the only PC component with prices set in stone. Zero changes after early 2022. 4070ti still selling at $900+. Good timez.

@PaulJohn01

2 ай бұрын

I feel your pain, it's the same situation here in the PH. My PC died a few months back ( MB+GPU ) ended up having to take a downgrade on both .

@Greenalex89

2 ай бұрын

Aww man, that sucks..

@urgay1992

2 ай бұрын

In my case it ended up being cheaper to import an overpriced gpu from china than buying the lowest end partner model locally. Absolutely ludicrous how the gpu manufacturers screw over certain markets

@PhilippinesLife101

Ай бұрын

@@PaulJohn01 I got lucky and found a 7900 xtx for msrp paid 50k peso for it. You would be lucky to find one for under 60k peso. 4080 super is still over 60k most over 70k. PH prices are just insane. Like car prices never go down lol.

@PaulJohn01

Ай бұрын

Oh i know what you mean 😁😁.And yep car prices in PH are ridiculous, well unless you know someone in the Govt who can get you a Bugatti imported without any paperwork ! Was just watching Hardware Unboxed a few hours ago , testing AMD CPU's and had to check here in the PH, no way could i get a 7800x3d MB PSU and GPU unless i win the lottery. PH is dirt cheap though for some other things .@@PhilippinesLife101

The entire GPU market is clown fiesta's dumpster fire, top to bottom.

@thomas5540

Ай бұрын

I bought a 4070 ti a year ago or so. i got way more fps per dollar than with my old 980 ti :) does that make me a clown?

@friedzombie4

17 күн бұрын

Agreed, I picked up a chinese imported 4080 for $700 even after import fees, it's absolutely mental Nvidia still wants $1200 for it.

I really hope that you guys would show cost per frame chart for the current price for each of these videos to make it easier to follow and make purchasing decision 😊

Especially at the low end, how valuable are the semi-gaming stuff like streaming functionality, Nvidia Broadcast, RTX Voice, and their AMD and Intel equivalents?

Looks over at my 7900XT* "come on baby you can do better this time!"

spend more money for the raytracing performance, thinking i will need it. never use raytracing...

@pituguli5816

2 ай бұрын

You aren't alone

@mursumarsu1791

2 ай бұрын

its for single player games/car games etc where you need only 60fps for shooters etc its stupid to use rt

@xpodx

2 ай бұрын

I'll enable it when I get a 5090 xD

@xpodx

2 ай бұрын

@@mursumarsu1791 unless you have a 4090 or better in the future

@sudd3660

2 ай бұрын

unreal engine got ray tracing without needing special hardware to run, so that might be the future of ray tracing and no need for rtx gpu's

Great video. Thank you!!

All the prices are about 50% increased across the board here in Norway.

If you purchased a last gen mid-range gpu it doesn't seem super urgent to upgrade at all, at least from where I'm standing

Out of character for you to not mention the VRAM disparity in the 500-600 section. Might have pulled the trigger on an NVIDIA card in this price range if any of them had 16 GB.

@Greenalex89

2 ай бұрын

Nvidia dictates your next GPU purchase with those VRAM limitations sadly.

@WaterZer0

2 ай бұрын

jfc buy a used 6800 XT

@Navi_xoo

2 ай бұрын

It's because at this moment for gaming 12gb is sufficient for everything except some mods. They CONSTANTLY talk about Vram and future proofing but that extra 4gb from 12-16gb isn't really going to do that much in the future. If it was 20 or 24gb i think the future proof argument would matter more.

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns

2 ай бұрын

@Z you are correct. But I would there is a case where buying too much vram isn’t worth it as the GPU compute will die out before you run out of VRAM. I would say at 1080p 12GB is futureproof. At 1440p 16GB is futureproof. Only a 4K resolution is where I would consider getting 20 or 24GB for futureproof. But the majority of gamers game at 1440p so I would say 16GB VRAM offers a nice balance that will last 5 years before having to upgrade

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns

2 ай бұрын

@Bure Also I argee that if the RTX 4070 super had 16GB of VRAM, I would have bought it as well. Ideally what should have happened is The RTX 4070 gets discontinued and then rebranded as the RTX 4060 super at $400. The RTX 4070TI super gets rebranded as a RTX 4070 super at $600. The original RTX 4080 super gets discontinued and rebranded the RTX 4070TI SUPER for $700 A new RTX 4080 super sku that gets 20GB of VRAM and at least 2,000 more CUDA cores selling for about $900. In addition the RTX 4060, 4060ti, and 4060ti 16GB get discontinued and rebranded as the 4050@ $170, 4050ti @ $230, 4050ti 16GB @$250 I believe if this would have happened I would have been happy

It’s officially golf season which means since I didn’t find anything that felt like a good deal, I can wait it out a year

That look at "what GPUs should have cost" last week was really great, and it shows in how easily you were able to make certain comments in this video -- "just look at the previous video to see why" etc. You've somehow put numbers to "what makes a good deal"? which seems like it should be impossible, but I do think you did a good job with it. Thanks for the updates on the GPU market as always. I hope price/performance stays at least as "okay" as it is now, with at least a few models here and there where the big three are brave enough to challenge price/perf trends by being even better. Of course I wouldn't mind a deluge of cheap fast GPUs, but I think even one stand-out value product on the entry to mid tiers would win back a lot of good will. Anyway, I guess we'll see, but I've got my GPU for now and don't need any upgrades myself. Cheers.

An older gen Nvidia card "for better longevity" is not a recommendation I was expecting

@johnny_rook

2 ай бұрын

Especially when it's a $280, 1080p card. If "better longevity" @1080p is the argument, having frame-gen is better than having 12GB VRAM that will not be used @1080p... ever. Enable high 4K textures to play @1080p and never see the difference?! That's stupid.

I've been trying out the MSI 4070 Super, Gaming Slim, and have been dealing with a squeaky fan. Is this a common problem? And I've come to the point where I consider just getting another case so I can fit in a sapphire pulse 7900gre, or maybe a 7700xt or 7800xt. The higher power draw annoys me a bit, though...

@Axatron

2 ай бұрын

You can undervolt any card with MSI afterburner. In my case, i lose 3-5 frames average but also consume 30W less on a 6800xt. (the frameloss depends of the games of course)

@Hjorth87

2 ай бұрын

@@Axatron that's a very good point. I've been doing it with my 4070 super already.

@ghostreaper2978

2 ай бұрын

I also have a 4070S MSI Gaming X Slim. No squeaky fan here.

@MegaPepsimax

2 ай бұрын

Unless you're on a very tight budget, I wouldn't worry so much about power draw unless its a massive difference. Just by example, if I was to upgrade to a card that consumed about 80 watts more than my current card, I'd see about £0.12 a day increase on my electric bill.

@Hjorth87

2 ай бұрын

@@MegaPepsimax it's not so much the money. It's more about the heat output, but that is offset by the stellar reviews of the cooling on Sapphire cards. At least the higher tier, even the pulse.

Just holding on for the battlemage lineup to see if things shake up a little, was considering buying an 4070 super ti or another 7800 xt for my other pc but since the release of it is quite close and looks promising i'm waiting

The outro music makes it worth the entire watch.

got my sapphire 6800 nitro+ at @279 is a total win!

Just ordered 7900xtx last week cant wait any loonger

I've just bought a 7900 GRE. It was only 2% more than a 7800 XT in the UK.

@AndyViant

2 ай бұрын

With a bios update to come that's a great deal.

Currently have an nvidia rtx a4000 but a lot of things says the 3070 is better was looking at 3080s and 3090s any significant standouts that even work well cost wise that would be a sure upgrade?

For me, the best buy today, atleast for 1080p, is the RX 6600. Its super cheap for what it offers, close to the 3060 in rasterization while costing 2/3 of the price

@adlibconstitution1609

2 ай бұрын

Used 3060 are going around for $200 only. I've seen them in my marketplace

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns

2 ай бұрын

I’ve seen the RTX 3060 go for as little as $80. At that price I would get it. Yeah it performs a little slower than the 6600 but it has 12GB VRAM, Nivdia features, and saved $100 in the process. Also the 3060 puts the 4060 in shame.

Me personally, my A770 has been amazing for both gaming and stuff like video editing and 3d modeling. I've only had major issues in one game, Persona 5 Strikers, and I later found out (after I refunded it though) that the poor performance might be related to my cpu and not gpu so in that case, it's not a criticism for Arc. I'd definitely recommend the Arc gpus at their low prices.

Thank you for the Price range list.

i Love this Gpu Monthly update From Hardware Unboxed. Good Job

unrelated; you guys discussed upcoming VRAM technology (GDDR7) with PAM 3 signaling. and touched on the meaning of PAM 3 and PAM 4 - super interesting fact; PAM4 doesn't actually work. which i think is why they are trying PAM 3 - explanation: PAM 4 at it's typical speed is UNABLE to completely slew between "00" and "11" in a single tik. (may be different data meanings, but essentially the LOWEST to HIGHEST voltage positions and highest to lowest, they are not possible (edit - observing MICRON's website it's actually 00-11-10-01 - therfore it cant do 0010 or 1000). The same way an LCD pixel can only be driven so fast before overshoot - PAM 4 has basically the same limitation, it has to be slowed right down to be accurate. Assuming the PAM4 voltage positions "1-2-3-4" mean 00 01 10 11 - then any time data contains 0011 or 1100 - it has to be sent wrong and rely on ECC to fix it after (meaning a bunch of the extra bandwidth is then taken up with extra check-data). If you watch Jensens 2020 ampere keynote; he says "with G6X we can transmit twice the amount of data in the same period of time as GDDR6" while at the same time showing a slide with 1: A litteral longer period of time XD, and 2:all possible data paths which demonstrated exactly this 1100 limitation. The specifics are also covered in pretty good detail on microns website. Would be an interesting technical discussion- have a great night

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns

2 ай бұрын

Interesting point.

still Rocking my 5700xt, very happy with my purchase a few years back

@Greenalex89

2 ай бұрын

Happy 640p gaming. Just kidding, great GPU still.

@Rebe-Caufman

2 ай бұрын

lol😂

Hey I have found 7900xtx sapphire nitro going from 680$ to 750$ this last week seems like there moving stock for new cards coming out. Picked myself up one for 733$ this weekend.

I'm gonna stick it out until new ones unless i can get a good deal on a 6800/xt/3080 on ebay or fb or something.

Got the 7900xt with free starfield for $675, don't regret that purchase at all.

@unholydonuts

2 ай бұрын

If only Starfield were half as good as Baldur's Gate 3.

@dereklang4451

2 ай бұрын

Or a quarter as good as mine that came witb re4 remake 😂​@unholydonuts

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns

2 ай бұрын

@blah excellent deal. I think I may have selected my future GPU.

Basically, all Nvidia can offer is better ray tracing, while being slower and more expensive. Personally, I would rather play at a higher framerate, instead of ray tracing enabled.

@504NO

2 ай бұрын

You mean faster 😂Amd don’t have a card that can compete with the 4090 yet what are you talking bout faster, you mean slower.

@gaborvarga6567

2 ай бұрын

I am obviously not talking about the $1800 price range, the 4090 has no competition thats a fact

@MekanikKommandoh88

2 ай бұрын

Well, that and DLSS which is vastly superior to FSR.

@gaborvarga6567

2 ай бұрын

You dont need uspcaling if you dont use ray tracing

@Dajova

2 ай бұрын

It also have superior energy efficiency, which does matter in the long run. Specially if you live in the EU.

Nice video .btw where is steve ?

I remember when the TNT 2, GeForce 256, GeForce 2 GTS/ Ultra, GeForce 3, and GeForce 4 were the product range as well as the ATi Radeon 8500 and 9700. I stopped paying attention to computers around 2003 to focus on other priorities. Just now rediscovering modern PCs...

I am currently trying to extract max value from my old 2070S, there are still so many games that are playable and one still can have tons of fun with low budget hardware.

@mukkah

2 ай бұрын

That is one nice thing about PC gaming in 2024, so many titles already exist that hold up damn well and don't require 1000$ USD+ gpus to run. Quite fine with my rx6600 PC and 3060 6gb laptop lol

Still shocking prices no matter what way you look at it, there’s no reason other than sheer greed from both parties. Look at Sony & Microsoft who sell consoles at £400/500 with everything Included bar tv/monitor, pc components shouldn’t be any different

@user-xe6sm4jv8f

2 ай бұрын

Yes, they shouldn't. But there are still people who are ready to pay this much. As long as there are such people, the prices won't come down. A friend of mine bought a 3080 back in the mining boom for like a €1000. He says everything is so cheap now!😂

@windunursetyadi

2 ай бұрын

I wonder how big the margin they make

@spoorthyv

2 ай бұрын

Bad comparison since consoles sell at a loss and then Microsoft/Sony make up the profit through expensive games and subscriptions for online gaming

@royal_pyth3n811

2 ай бұрын

Whilst I agree prices are a bit crazy, there’s no way pc’s can compete with consoles on price. Sony and Microsoft aren’t making money selling consoles, they break even at best and instead make their money on providing live services. Unless you want Nvidia, AMD and all the other relevant partners to start charging you additional fees to use something you already own, I wouldn’t try to create parity between pricing and just instead push for more performance at each tier.

@jannegrey593

2 ай бұрын

Please don't give them the ideas or soon midrange cards will cost "only" 250$ + 10$ for every game you want to play every month. DLSS 20$/month (FSR 10$/month) - buy for 6 months you get 1 month of Frame Gen for free!

Would have loved an adjusted cost per frame chart

I did the 3060 12 gig last year - gave up on the 40xx series completely.

A video about vendors would be nice. I've read several times that for example PNY should be avoided all at costs, because they are extremely customer unfriendly regarding RMA and warranty claims. Coil whine is also an interesting topic.

Any chance of an EU/UK version of this video this time around fellas? would greatly appreciate it

@getyerspn

2 ай бұрын

It'd be nice but us $ is the only currency tech KZreadrs understand.

@Steve30x

2 ай бұрын

I agree. The 7900GRE is $550 but I've been searching for one with the past two weeks and I can't find any at a lower price than €670 here in Ireland. The cheapest 7800XT I can find is €571.

@NadeemAhmed-nv2br

2 ай бұрын

With taxes it's about $610 which your prices include ​@@Steve30x

@Faattori

2 ай бұрын

Tech KZreadrs do not care about European pricing

@ThePimpinator

2 ай бұрын

you're better off just running it through a currency converter or looking up the cards yourself

Great review and my thoughts are to wait off u till about 2 months before Aussies Christmas perhaps?

Happy with my Legion Pro 7i with RTX 4080 laptop 💛

TLDR : If you ray trace, buy Nvgreedia. If you game buy Radeon If you beta test buy Arc

@urgay1992

2 ай бұрын

I was so excited for Arc until I realised I play mostly older games that struggle hard on the Intel cards. Plus they are very overpriced where I live, the A770 is a little more expensive than the 7700 XT.

@jensenhuangnvidiaceo9478

2 ай бұрын

If you trace, there's only ONE MASTER RACE! Nvidia! If you game, Radeon is TAME! Buy NVIDIA! If you buy Intel, then you FAIL, BUY NVIDIA! THANKS FOR THE LEATHER!

@Thejacketof-huang

2 ай бұрын

It's over fanbois scAMD, it's over 💀 Keep coping, crying and lying 🎪

@GeneralS1mba

2 ай бұрын

​@@jensenhuangnvidiaceo9478Dude, how many leather jackets do you have right now? You think you can double that amount when the Blackwell sales come rushing in?

@GeneralS1mba

2 ай бұрын

​@@Thejacketof-huangDude not even Jensen would want you here!

this generation feels like intel 11th gen... except without the 11400f... and both sides are in on it.

@AndyViant

2 ай бұрын

11400f with the power limits removed was a wicked cpu for the $

@bingbong3084

2 ай бұрын

ehh when i got 3060ti for 340$ last year i was quite pleased as a 1080p gamer , pairs up nicely with my 11400f 😂

@AndyViant

2 ай бұрын

@@bingbong3084was running a 2070 Super and 11400f with power limits removed. good combo, so 3060ti would work well with it too at 1440 gaming.

Do you think the 7900 GRE will shake up the pricing of the others enough to justify waiting a little bit to buy? My wife upgraded her monitor to 4k and her 3070 is struggling. Considering 7800XT 7900GRE 4070S and 7900XT

I was really expecting an all GPU up to date benchmarks

I just bought RX 6800 XT but in EU prices are higher than us so i paid 480$ for it.

@ItsHatlolOfficial

2 ай бұрын

That's not bad, considering the EU price already has 20% VAT on top

@urgay1992

2 ай бұрын

I bought a Yeston 7800 XT for $599 fully expecting to be hit with some hefty import duties, but it just got right through. The cheapest 7800 XT I could buy locally is $690...

Ray tracing is fine on the 7900XTX and if you get a beefy CPU like the 7950X it certainly helps. I have had mine for 3 to 4 months now and everything can run set to max with 2K resolution.

@FluffyPuppyKasey

2 ай бұрын

I doubt that's with path tracing enabled though

@Greenalex89

2 ай бұрын

Not even the 4090 can handle pathtracing without upscaling, thats how far it is from being optimized.

@xjax8519

2 ай бұрын

@@Greenalex89 Because RTX4090 commercial garbage )))

@urgay1992

2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't expect anything else, if such an expensive setup couldn't even max out 1080p that would be extremely disappointing.

@FrozR2024

2 ай бұрын

@@urgay1992 I feel the sweet spot for gaming is 2k now, but there is nothing wrong with 1080p either.

You made the video just when I needed it. I was looking for a new graphics card to update the RX 6700 XT I was using. I have been researching this issue for a while, unfortunately it is quite expensive in my country compared to the sales amount.

@Greenalex89

2 ай бұрын

I went to 7900xtx nitro+ from the 6700XT. The only worthy performance uplift imo.

Hey looking for serious advice, i own an nvidia 1160 ti 6B and recently had to get a new monitor cus the old one died, got a nice 1k 164hz gaming monitor, money is not really an issue but i am not planning on play above 1k, i am starting to get old and other responsabilities, so i wanted some advice, its 4070 ti or rt 7700xt overkill ?

In Czech republic best deals are RX7700XT, RX7800XT and RX7900 GRE. No real deal for nvidia.

@misterijaaaa

2 ай бұрын

Similar in Serbia,nvidia prices are insane for anything over regular 4060.

The only reason I got the 4090 is because it was the best priced option for my workflow. Easily earned itself back in time alone. For gaming I would never have bought this as it's not worth the premium imo.

@anodyneliniment2326

2 ай бұрын

huh, what do you do if I may ask?

@PrimeRsoul

2 ай бұрын

@@anodyneliniment2326 A whole variety of things, but what benefits most of the card is video editing, modeling, and rendering. Time is money. The 4090 was the most cost effective option.

@saxoman1

2 ай бұрын

​@jasonaltman7164 unless money isn't an issue ofc. I bought one for $1800 after taxes, it's the best option for high refresh rate 4K gaming. Outside of that, definitely a waste of money

Just today, there's a 7900 GRE for 529 € in my region. Just 5 bucks above the 7800 XT. Given that it's one of the very few cards that's certified for ROCm, I'm very tempted...

Keep doing the updates, we might not like what they say but it's useful to know to keep using our old cards.

My cat tipped over a glass of water into my computer last week. Luckily only my 6800XT died. Insurance let me replace it with a 7900GRE - SUPER happy with it so far.

@Superdazzu2

2 ай бұрын

LOL

@xpodx

2 ай бұрын

Why would you keep a glass of water on your computer?

@biansanity

2 ай бұрын

you're lucky af since the mistake is yours not the product, in my country they won't replace if it was customer error.

@realnzall

2 ай бұрын

@@xpodx it probably was on his desk, and when tipped over it poured into the computer.

@trulaila8560

2 ай бұрын

@@xpodx for a cat to tip it over, obviously

Waking up to a new HUB video is a good thing. 👍 Just bought 7800xt to replace my 5700xt. I'll probably build another computer for my kid around the 5700xt. The 5700xt is an excellent card and has aged extremely well.

@PC_Gaming_Tech

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. Went from a 5700xt to a 6800xt

@urgay1992

2 ай бұрын

Yep, 5700 XT is a perfectly serviceable card even today if you don't care about the highest resolutions or newest features. There was a time when pricing was so scuffed though that you could upgrade to a new 6700 XT basically for free by selling the 5700 XT on the used market. The 6700 XT holds up even better.

I've always liked nvidia but I recently got an rx 6700 for 239. I use it on my 4k 120hz tv and one feature that is amazing is the Radeon super resolution. I can render any game at 1080p or 1440p and it'll upscale to 4k without the game needing to have native fsr. Its amazing. Props to amd for that

I snagged an rx 7600 for 170 and it’s been great. Not a huge upgrade from my 1080 ti but far fewer issues as my 1080 ti hadn’t aged well it ran super hot even with new paste

With the supposedly leaked PS5 Pro spec, the "PC is better than console" starts to shake a bit. The rumored RDNA 3 GPU with 60 CU beats my 6700 XT. Feels bad.

@Greenalex89

2 ай бұрын

Dont forget that u pay huge prices for a Console game and subscriptions every month. Thats how they get the money back.

@26Guenter

2 ай бұрын

Keep this in perspective. The PS5 GPU is close to a 6600 XT on paper. With the Pro being 45% faster that puts it just shy of a 3070 Ti. So your GPU isn't that far behind it.

@paxvesania2008

2 ай бұрын

@@Greenalex89 Idk man, big games on Steams are 70 usd now. Subs are not exclusive to console, it exist in PC platform too. At the end of the day, PC is "better" than a console because of spec and if the rumors are true, PS5 Pro beats my PC. Sad as it may.

@urgay1992

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, consumer GPU prices are still inflated af

@brutalliance5187

2 ай бұрын

judged by current gen, don't forget that rtx 5000 is coming quite soon

What a depressing market. I'd like to upgrade from my 3060 Ti which I bought over 1,5 years ago for 330 euro when the crypto market crashed. Still can't find anything that is better performance for the buck...

@CannedMan

2 ай бұрын

I hear you. I’d like to upgrade from my 6 GiB 5600XT … It’s not doing well with survivor games like _Icarus._

@aeroflopper

2 ай бұрын

i upgraded from a Rtx3060ti to a XTX7800XT night and day

@oscarpascarau2537

2 ай бұрын

You can just wait for another 6 months and you'll have new gpus releasing which will probably fit your needs

@urgay1992

2 ай бұрын

If your current setup works for your requirements there is absolutely no need to upgrade no matter the age of your components. Don't let the marketing fool you.

@sebastiansandvik825

2 ай бұрын

@@urgay1992 Yeah, I know, but it doesn't. Trying to get 100fps+ in 1440p and there are plenty of games where I barely scratch 60fps.

I got the 4070 ti super, waiting for the 5090. I don't have any use for the 4090 as I don't have a monitor for 4k yet. :) Got it for around $920 here in Sweden.

@MrAnimescrazy

2 ай бұрын

That will be a huge upgrade going to the 5090.

I have a question. So I want to upgrade my GPU. At some point my cpu as well but first GPU. I have a Ryzen 3900xt with a Geforce RTX 3070. I was thinking of getting the 7900 xt 20 gig version , but wondering if price for performance the 7800 would be better I need my budget to be under $600 for GPU. I'm going to upgrade to Ryzen 5950. I know we have the 7900, but I would have to update so much more stuff to do that.

RX 7900 GRE... 500-550 $ for (900$) RTX 4070 Ti performance.....

@EffectualPoet

2 ай бұрын

Where are you shopping for 4070 Ti?? They are under $700 new....

@Navi_xoo

2 ай бұрын

900 dollars? Why are you spreading misinformation? 4070 Ti prices dropped hard you can find them under 700. GRE performs worse in practically everything and has no DLSS. The 4gb of extra vram and 100 dollars saved is nice though sure. Makes more sense to compare it to a 4070 super.

@wertyuiopasd6281

Ай бұрын

@@EffectualPoet they are with 12GB of vram at that price. Garbage.

@wertyuiopasd6281

Ай бұрын

@@Navi_xoo 12gb of vram is cringe at that price point fanboy. NVIDIA and AMD are companies, consumers should punish them whenever they can.

@EffectualPoet

Ай бұрын

@@wertyuiopasd6281 Sounds like something a blue voter would say

Currently happy with the performance of my 4080 Super.

I still run my super 270 high on everything works fine

I have the 2080TI right now. Im playing in the 7680x1440p 3x 32''! Its Iracing i play. I dont know if the extra GB on the TI SUPER will me that difference

Should say - When it comes to Ray/Path Tracing, everything is still not really capable so just go for Rasterisation 👍

Strategy gamers just get a basic AMD card for the Chill feature and you're done.

When are the the gpu series gonna launch?

Decided to buy the asrock a770. Not as refined right now. Coming from a 3060, the a770 was hitting 2.4ghz on default with a power draw of 145-150watts while playing Helldriver 2. I think the 3060 was hitting 1.8-1.9ghz only.

rx7900xtx is a goat

@latlanticcityphil

2 ай бұрын

and it's older cuz 6900XT is the MPV!

*In my opinion none of this gens cards are good value to be fully honest*

@jamescrocker2474

2 ай бұрын

Its been a terrible gen. It is not worth buying unless you are desperate

@erikbritz8095

2 ай бұрын

@@jamescrocker2474 yup used cards for the win.

@NamTran-xc2ip

2 ай бұрын

@@jamescrocker2474 If someone comes from the 1060 for example, and they cant play they cant games how they want, might as well.

@windunursetyadi

2 ай бұрын

What do you think should you buy depending on the budget then?

@erikbritz8095

2 ай бұрын

@@windunursetyadi asking md or james that agrees that this gen sucked 🤔

rn there is really good deal on the RX 6800 in Germany (just 20 bucks more than the 6750 XT)

4060Ti 16GB is less of a premium vs the 7700XT in the UK and I do think the 4060Ti can make a good case for itself with the superior upscaling solution and a far better power profile. Also with PS5 pro being a thing that looks to be pushing RT quite a bit I think the extra RT capability for the 4060Ti will help give it some decent legs for those who hang onto parts for a good while.

7800xt $500.00 16gb, is the only one I'll buy today.i got 2, 3080, 3, 3070ti. I only try rtx on quake 2 1time and they get hot 🔥 🥵. Rtx is a scam I'm a fps gamer never will use rtx.

@toututu2993

2 ай бұрын

Ray tracing is gay. You can create realistic better looking art with rasterised lighting with no performance drop. You just need to stop being lazy and work your useless butt crap out of laziness to make good games for players and humanity. Developing a product isn't for the lazy losers who can't put any real effort of something

@JOHNTECH112

2 ай бұрын

Wait 8700xt or 7800xt ?

@xpodx

2 ай бұрын

@toututu2993 it's not realistic if it's fake and can't show you in real time. I don't enable it right now, cuz I'm doing 4k 144hz. But when I upgrade to the 5090 I'll definitely enable it.

@1967KID

2 ай бұрын

@JOHNTECH112 Thank you my mistake .🤣

@siddhantkamble9502

2 ай бұрын

​@@toututu2993Why are you so mad? RT is clearly the tech of the future. No matter how skilled you are it is damn near impossible to implement correct lighting manually in the exact way it would be irl. RT makes it possible and it being easy to implement is just an added bonus. Not only does it make it easy but it is also far more intuitive than making using rasterised lighting. RT is here to stay. We are already seeing games that coming with built in RT.

I was surprised to see that video was longer than 2 minutes

Got my XFX 7900 XTX a year ago for $949 and have been enjoying true 4k (native) max settings gaming for the last year. It smashes UE5 games and even handles Lumin and Nanite max np. The only caveat is "RTX ray tracing" in a handful of games (CP, Alan wake) does require a bit of upscaling, but that's hardly a deal breaker at 4k. I ❤ this GPU and should be good to game for years to come!

I intend to buy a 7900xtx for 600ish on eBay after the next generation comes out.