The Best F-16 In The Game - F-16 MLU ft. 1v4
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Fuel: Max tank + droptank
Ammo: Ground targets
Missiles: 2x aim7M 4x aim-9L
Countermeasures: Depends on map Flares priority or flares only
Convergence: 600 meters
Vertical Targeting: No
Crew: maxed (lvl 75) + expert
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It will not cease to annoy me that bricks like the phantom can out maneuver the f16 on the high end when they by all rights would snap like a twig irl.
@Beulena.
Жыл бұрын
It's a game, it's not meant to be a sim
@gadafwar5520
Жыл бұрын
Its bullshit, F4 doesnt outturn F-16, F16's pilot should be too bad for that
@mendercrown4562
Жыл бұрын
Skill issue?
@skytron22
Жыл бұрын
@@Bobspineable the g-limiter isn’t modeled correctly in game. More importantly, it’s a game. The f-16, for balancing purposes, shouldn’t turn worse than a 104 or phantom
@gadafwar5520
Жыл бұрын
@@Bobspineable and yet, 2 circle f-16 claps, especially on full controls (tho, dont know does computer works with FC)
Accidentally breaking the airfield AA was the best part of this entire update. I am so sad they have fixed it now.
@jg54sayaka11
Жыл бұрын
Mood
The MLU is actually a very, very modern plane. It's not modeled that way in the game, but as better planes come, I presume it'll be upgraded. The radar in the MLU is an AN/APG-66(v)3, and has massive advantages over all other radars in the game, the only exception being the F-14's radar. But do note that there won't be anything with a radar as good as the F-14's until we get very modern aircraft. Think the very latest 4th gen + fighters.
@bigmemer4398
Жыл бұрын
PESA radars will be coming probably as early as next year
@kajmak64bit76
Жыл бұрын
"Very powerful and modern radar" Meanwhile today on multiple occassions enemy has CHAFFED my F-16A block 20 MLU Chinese F-16... CHAFFED a PULSE DOPPLER... IN A HEADON! "Really modern radar" yea right
@hauptmann_ivan
Жыл бұрын
@@kajmak64bit76 that's just typical war thunder, hell they won't even model auto flaps and slats which is completely controlled by the fbw computer on the f-16, let alone actually usable radars and accurate fox1s that doesn't guide itself by magic when u lose lock at last few seconds
@martijn9568
Жыл бұрын
@@hauptmann_ivan Something tells me that the flight model of the F-16 may actually not be unstable as it's supposed to be. The instructor can probably deal with a mild instability, but I doubt it should be able to deal with the instability of a real F-16, unless Gaijin modified the instructor a lot.
@hauptmann_ivan
Жыл бұрын
@@martijn9568 don't think flight models in war thunder are that detailed, missile performance is especially noticeable as missiles performance do not alter drastically in game
Tbh "I can see the burner so the IR is also there" isn't that simple. If you look at a glasspane it's almost perfectly transparent to visible light but not infrared. Water is also not transparent to IR and that's what clouds are. Hell the lenses of IR cameras are made of Germanium which is a metal that's completely opaque to our eyes but great lens material in IR.
@TheContinuation
Жыл бұрын
That's actually pretty interesting. I thought it was Gaijin just being lazy but it was actually the opposite. However I still would like to see this be less extreme as WT is a game and it can be pretty annoying at times when I can't lock on to a guy 700 meters away while he's afterburning. 1-0.8 KM and under should be sufficient for most of the higher end missiles if lined up properly.
@DEFYN
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't it depend on the thickness of the clouds? There's barely any between us and wt clouds will block IR if there's a singular spec between me and the target. I am not saying this particular instance is bullshit but in some instances it definitely is. I shouldn't have worded it like i did in the video however that's my mistake
@chumbucket4539
Жыл бұрын
@@DEFYN sometimes ill be below a cloud and it will still not let me get a lock. gaijin definitely overestimates how much the clouds block the IR signatures
@plantenthusiast3052
Жыл бұрын
@@chumbucket4539 It might not be an overestimate honestly. Clouds do a have a transparent layer underneath them that could disrupt IR signatures. It may not be able to be seen with the naked eye, but it is there. Now, I'm not an expert, so I could be completely wrong; This is is just my inference.
@peelp5076
Жыл бұрын
@@plantenthusiast3052 I think it could just be a case of the cloud modelling boxes being much more simplified than what you can see so a cloud is modelled as being there even though visually it isn’t
I used your code to give the snail 2 dollars and buy the flare mod for the F-16. Truly a skill issue.
@eugeniuszwt159
Жыл бұрын
if it was fo american f16 then your clearly trash
“I don’t know what you were smoking, but I want to have some of it.” Yep, Defyn is 100% from the Netherlands.
@Ganyu_Editor
Ай бұрын
lol true
Defyn, when you’re in ACM mode during a turn and want to lock an AIM-9L quickly, you can change the ACM mode where it gives you a HUGE vertical rectangle so you can slave the missile and get it ready to launch before you even get nose on.
@theimpassibile96
Жыл бұрын
What's the option name for doing that?
@ferrous3262
Жыл бұрын
@@theimpassibile96 change radar/irst search mode
@MrMati555
Жыл бұрын
@@theimpassibile96 Change Radar/IRST search mode. You have to do it whilst in ACM mode already
@BTechUnited
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I'd never even tried changing mode in ACM. Top tip there.
@cyberdroid2300
Жыл бұрын
I'm a prop main who has just barely gotten into jets and radars confuse me so much. I really want to understand how they work so I can follow along Defyn's videos better.
As per usual, Defn's youtube vids are peak War Thunder Content.
I agree with you on camping bases being bad. But if I’m in an outclassed plane then there isn’t anything else I can do but bait the enemy into my base. What else can I do? Die like a honourable samurai and let him swat me out of the sky? No, I’d prefer to land and J out to at least save myself 15k repair cost.
@DEFYN
Жыл бұрын
But then you leave You don't try to win by circling for 20 minutes untill a Roland plays the game for you
@arandomperson5649
Жыл бұрын
@@DEFYNnot everyone is a skilled pilot as you and i think most ppl will be scared when mig 29s camp near the airfield
The AAA issue is really quite simple I believe. If you genuinely need to repair/rearm/refuel that's fine sometimes things are out of your control and being strafed on the airfield with literally no counter-play is boring, especially when you wanted to fight. But if you are one of those players who immediately retreats to the airfield at any sign of a disadvantage (especially egregious at prop tier), you may aswell stop playing the game, as you let the game play itself and importantly you do not learn a thing. If you took that 2v1 for example, you might have won, you might have lost but the important factor here is that you could have learned something, could have understood better how to deal with a future 2v1. That's the part that bothers me the most, it's the obvious lack of willingness to get better at the game, I find it incredibly sad. Maybe a mechanic where it lies dormant until a plane lands, then remains active for a minute (usually average rearm times are shorter) and then switches off for a period. You can remain protected for as long as you need but cannot actually abuse the system.
@lamborgatti-4783
Жыл бұрын
Well its a 2 sided story,when your the winning team you either want him alive so you can grind then kill him,orrr you and the whole team wants him good so they can move on to the next match,now if your on the loosing team,its you vs anything from 2-12 players,who the fuck wants to fight a 2v12 when you can wait and see atleast 3 die from flying stupid and 2 others leaving the game or just land an leave,if its a 1v3 or 1v5 its like okay with a 1v3 maybe i can fight them all at once,or they all attack me,same thing when its a 5v1 but after that if its a 6v1 they all rush you,you have no way of winning or maybe even killing on,trying is good but somtimes all it does it annoy you when if you waited you could have annoyed the enemy team
@Marin3r101
Жыл бұрын
@@lamborgatti-4783 great excuses scumlord.
i think airfield AA should be CWIS turrets, so they can't hit targets as far but are better for shooting people who are strafing
The 9L’s were very flare resistant BEFORE the update. They nerfed it for this update which tbh was a good choice. The F-16’s would be absolutely obliterating everything if the 9L’s were performing like they were pre update. And now they can add the 9M’s and just make those perform like the 9L used to.
@kingderpington6082
Жыл бұрын
I think they also had to nerf the 9l's because of the a10 and tram. It was literally near impossible to dodge them at those br's if they ever got a rear aspect shot. If you cut off engine and used 50+ flares the 9L would still track perfectly.
@corybrown2197
Жыл бұрын
@@kingderpington6082 exactly the performance I was referring to. Was way too good. Would have been too OP .
@kingderpington6082
Жыл бұрын
@@corybrown2197 Yeah im really glad they nerfed it, otherwise it woulda been completely unplayable at toptier.
I wish you a speedy recovery, DEFYN. Get yourself some cocoa milk for the winter 🙃
Get well soon mate, and as always thanks for the great content!! :)
I love how plane damage lowers max g load you can do. He ripped him self trying to cancer roll lmao
Cant wait for when the “newer” models of the 4th gens get added because the flare spam will be more common making the pain of better IR missiles less brutal to fight against.
I watch this video at least twice a week. Commentary, gameplay, awareness, aim. Everything is amazing
Ending with an airfield hugger getting slapped is lovely...
And here I have people saying that climbing to space doesn't work, even the great DEFYN does it. Goeie vid man, Groetjes Belo.
God watching you play makes me so jealous. I have the flying down and managing my speed and all that. And I can hit with missiles. But I CANT for the life of me get those machine gun kills that you get.
@lamborgatti-4783
Жыл бұрын
Cannons
@corybrown2197
Жыл бұрын
@@lamborgatti-4783 alright captain smarty pants. How about stfu no one cares
@martijn9568
Жыл бұрын
@@lamborgatti-4783 Here's a fun fact for the day, generally every aircraft mounted cannon is a machine gun according to the Imperial Japanese Navy.
Flying F-16A ADF, I noticed that if I was able to hold the aircraft through some means or another on the deck at ~800km/h, I was getting 23-25 degrees per second of rate. Nothing currently in the game tops that for sustained rate. Really fun to do in 1v1's if you drag it down to the deck and watch your opponents freak the ever living fuck out. Even funnier when you tap elevator in mid-altitude fights to maintain ~1000km/h in a kind of yoyo maneuver. No one who committed can get guns on you easily at all. Monster of a plane.
Oh man always a better day when I get a DEFYN video. Get well soon man!
what a beautiful display of BFM amazing man!
Hope you feel better soon, DEFYN! :)
Love these videos, best teacher of wt
@dilldoe1991
Жыл бұрын
Duh
thank you so much for the content TwT, i only have a question, when will se the Japanese F-16? :3
The Discord link is invalid for me for some reason. I'd love to see a guide on how to fly the Mig23-ML* against 11.7 up-tiers. Since the update 100% of my Mig23ML matches have been against swarms of F14's, F16's and Mig29's. I did fine pre-patch in 11.3 matches, but I'm struggling against the swarms of 11.7. Waves of BVR, radar out-classed, out-turned by everything. Would love some tips.
I'm trying to master the flying method for the MLU and I wanted to ask this simple question - Climb high and risk F-14A spam or stay low on the side and swoop in on a distracted furball? I'm doing ok in the MLU but I'd like to do better. I have spaded it. Cheers bro.
Hey DEFYN, will you do a video on the Ki-83?
Great gameplay Defyn! I’ve played a lot of the f4ej kai and I’d say you are not using the radar to its full potential. You can bind a key to get a square that locks everything directly in front of you and you can use that to get a fast lock to slave the missile. Second, whenever you are looking above you should switch to the non PD mode of the radar since it doesn’t care about relative speed and you always get a kill with that. Doing those things would have netted you a couple more kills!
@Red_Lion2000
Жыл бұрын
The aim7f does not have an inverse monopulse seeker, it wont continue to track the plane after the radar gets spoofed by chaff.
@yuyy8565
Жыл бұрын
@@Red_Lion2000 to do that you’d have to go backwards and go cold.
they added the chute and made the engines a bit better today for the mlu
@kajmak64bit76
Жыл бұрын
The chute was always there I used it on the dev server... They removed it and got it back... what a skill issue from them lol probably got them bugged or something
Defyn will you make another* video on the poverty plane? The radar is much better plus have the ers help.
Hey defyn i was wondering how do i get your wing logo? was it like a previous decal? i already have the new one (looks great btw)
@starkbird9524
Жыл бұрын
It’s a mixture of two in game decals that he appropriated but Defyn doesn’t like people recreating it on their planes sadly.
I see ppl complaining about f16 not being agile enough because of the g limiter and here’s what I have to say. F16 is definitely not a bad aircraft rn but it’s just not modelled correctly. Mig 29 doesn’t have a g limiter if not then not as limited as the f16 for sure. For now, f16 plays like a missile boat which can only dogfight when you lose all your speed which is fine but missile boat play style is just boring consider that a f14 can easily do the exact same thing and dogfight extremely well. Rn if you really wanna play the f16 then just get the adf variant or the Chinese mlu. Hopefully gaijin will change how f16 plays
Is there a reason why you use armoured belts over air targets belts?
Superspreader alert!! :-P Get well soon, old sealclubber! Btw. how do you get into the fight, without getting focused out by long range radar missiles from F-14, when you are climbing? I have no problems in the short range fight, when i get into it, but that radar shit is so annyoing. I know you can notch, but notching means they have the better position on you usually... the first seconds of the matches are awfull for me. especially in higher rank mig 21s.
I like this game because of the realistic the systems the strategy and the way yuo have to make spilt second and wee like a real pilot
finally researching it!!!! long long grind :(
That first stage after burn trick would help w the fuel.
Lozoking forward to getting to this beast after starting grinding towards the F5-E
@Marin3r101
Жыл бұрын
Who tf is Lozoking? Also F-5E isnt carrier based so F14 is in other branch.
@bobdole6768
Жыл бұрын
@@Marin3r101 chinese f5e
@PSX_Kyle
Жыл бұрын
@@Marin3r101 autocorrect lol, plus it’s the Chinese line
what kind of hardware allows you to run 300 fps??
That taunt on the chat at the end on the base camper noob was the best part of the video, shame that AF AAA on props are still working (on some maps at least), every time i kill a guy that camping the AF i call them "noob" on the chat. Also, hope you recover from COVID(i got that shit too).
@kajmak64bit76
Жыл бұрын
AA on props is a Death zone barrier AA in top tier is ACTUAL proper AI shooting ACTUAL projectiles and stuff at you vs a Death Zone where your plane parts lose HP and die
@TheLazyKat
Жыл бұрын
Frrrrr dude, that last bit where the camper was panicking soo hard cus the AA wasn't shooting Defyn down and was desperately rolling around was so fun to watch Xd
good video f-16 is everything i want i just need to know if it has the funnel sight
@Gemm6905
Жыл бұрын
it doesn't
Well, hope ya get better soon "DEFYN" cuz you sound so congested. But get well thanks for the vid
defyn the type of guy to win a headon using the cockpit 9mm
The problem of all F-16s is that Gaijin, in their infinite wisdom, decided that turn performance should be based on altitude and whether the AB is on or off instead of IAS.
Beterschap!
I swear gaijin adds better versions of American vehicles to non-american tech trees on purpose.
Just was watching one of your older vids are you still working in a hospital? if so thank you
In my F-16 I seem to only die to either other F-16s, MIG 29, or PD enabled planes. Am I just out skilling these players? Without afterburner this plane flies like a dream (AND this is with a crew level of 1 so it's not pay to win issue either.)
@oskarpiskorek9945
Жыл бұрын
why are you crewing an f16 with crew lvl 1?
@CyanidePenguin
Жыл бұрын
@@oskarpiskorek9945 wanted to level up my new crew slot and figured I'd be spending a lot of time on the F-16.
U should start a course called how to fly in War Thunder.. Great video, I m so close to f 16 block ...
Defyn can u do a video called stop reversing I front of my nose where it's just a compilation of people reversing into your guns for no reason?
3:31, indeed convenient hahaha
best decal in game
Hey DEFYN, what do you use to record your gameplay?
@DEFYN
Жыл бұрын
shadowplay
@savageazn69
Жыл бұрын
@@DEFYN I can never get good quality, it’s always a little fuzzy for me 🤌
you need to play the mig21mf/smt right now. the 10.3 bracket is so strong right now
You say it again, but af is deadly af again
how to transition from pd to pd hdn radar please ?
i didnt understand how we have the decal ?
please be my Air combat sensei.... im ok but not great at air RB, so watching you is helping me a lot any simple tips you have would be much appreciated' especially at the higher tiers
Is the cockpit any different from the ADF or block 10?
@Dwight511
Жыл бұрын
No, but it should be. The block 20 MLU is supposed to have 2 MFDs and a UFC.
@spray916
Жыл бұрын
@@Dwight511 block 20MLU doesn't exist. Only block 15s were made into MLUs. Properly itd be block 20OCU.
Hey DEFYN, could you do an F16 ADF guide? I’m not exactly sure how to use mine effectively.
@ferrous3262
Жыл бұрын
every f16 flies the same
They really need to fix the broken g limiter, It won't pull harder than 6g's over 550kt
just noticed the "skill issue" decal is an F-22 shooting down a Sabre lol
for some reason liquorice helps a lot against the roms, at leasy in my case.
Yo Defyn, big fan, which country do you think has the best overall planes?
@ferrous3262
Жыл бұрын
usa or ussr
Man, everyone's getting sick rn, oddbawz did get the flu, you got corona and im laying on a bed for days straight wkth a fever.
It's not a G limiter. It's an AoA limiter.
Can you make a video about flaring missiles? Cause r60 you drop one flare and the thing is gone, but an aim9l you drop like 50 and still tracks
@TheFanatical1
Жыл бұрын
that would be the entire content of the video
@akiara8491
Жыл бұрын
stop afterburning and don't spam flares, bunch the flares together
@darioortiz74
Жыл бұрын
@@akiara8491 su 25 dont have afterburner and still a rear aspect 9l is almost impossible to dodge,
@akiara8491
Жыл бұрын
@@darioortiz74 no bunch up flares, reduce throttle, it's really simple
I wish you a quick recovery defyn
Is the ADF and MLU flight prformance the same? I'm about to reserch the american one and it annoyes me that the chinese version is better 😮💨
@DEFYN
Жыл бұрын
The only difference is the countermeasures and the ground ordinance
how do ppl play RB the controls feel hard but everytime i watch a video it look like there playing AB
My last few top tier games, I've been in shit scenarios. Including an f14 that dumped 6 phoenixs at me at the start of the game. I was literally just cruising right next to the ground towards the battle field and get bonked by 6 missiles
Is the Chinese F16 better than American ones just because of the extra countermeasures (and bombs) or does it turn better, does it have a better flight performance in any way ?
@ferrous3262
Жыл бұрын
irl it had little bit more thrust and a better radar and then later on it was upgraded to block 72 bur as of now the only thing mlu has over the american one is a parachute and more countermeasures
+1000 social credit.
Airfield AA should not shoot if there is friendlies in the sky. If they're on the ground it should be substantially hard to get close.
The shanghai-shivers strike again. I've had the Kung-Flu twice. The Wuhan-Woos the 2nd time around weren't too bad
Isnt that an f16C? The mlu is a blk25 and thats a c model
You sound kinda cute with rona😳
I’m sorry but some planes literally cannot flare aim9Ls I feel like the countermeasures on f16s are better because the chaff seems better, maybe flares too
The more I use aim9l the more I realize they are basically like r23....same range more or less but they pull way harder. They're better than magics.
0:50 little voice crack there
how can lock radar like you , u can post 1 vid about keybind radar lock ? TY sir
@italo195
4 ай бұрын
He has a 30 minute video about radars dude
The F-16s flight model is completely broken. It’s not even close to being apex anything. How they got the flight model so wrong is mind blowing. The only thing I can figure is they didn’t want the F-16 and MiG 29 to cut into their premium sales.
這是台灣的嗎🥹 Is this the Taiwanese version of F-16? I see ROCAF on the tail
@ferrous3262
Жыл бұрын
yes
Got thinking, "Runway AAA is way too potent, and needs to be nerfed" is very true but the people who run out of ammo and or need to repair damage, should not be farmed either. Multiple Runways without AAA that are closer to the "front"?
Well, if you got the Rona.... 1 Video a day?
Covid making a comeback??
aim9L in this game is a joke compared to irl or DCS. Its likely unrealistically nerfed because they decided to add it to a 10.0 plane for some unknown reason, and because the mig29 only gets Flare-60M's.
the flaps make you turn worse bro
how do you have 33% win rate with the f16?
@DEFYN
Жыл бұрын
by winning 33% of my games, hope it helps
@sekutard5157
Жыл бұрын
@@DEFYN over how many games?
@DEFYN
Жыл бұрын
19 games
@sekutard5157
Жыл бұрын
@@DEFYN Were you stock? I’m bad but I have a 52% win rate over 90 games. I’m surprised you don’t like this thing.
@DEFYN
Жыл бұрын
I didn't say i didn't like it I got over 2 kills per game, i couldn't have done much more than i did it was just 1v6 every game basically
New mic? I can hear the difference if I'm right.
@DEFYN
Жыл бұрын
Nah setup somewhere else which isn't as echoey Tone of voice cuz sick might have something to do with it too
@michaelvigil5321
Жыл бұрын
@DEFYN well the new setup is good besides you being sick
They need an American 11.0 fighter premium to trash their win rates
@tergam4523
Жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest even if they did, the sheer amount of F-16 and F-14 on the American teams would make it so that plane would likely not be the majority on the team.
Play the yak 15p
13:28 Ayo?.🤨📸
@martijn9568
Жыл бұрын
Were you that Harrier player?
@ilikepies4877
Жыл бұрын
@@martijn9568 No I made this comment because DEFYN said, and I quote, “ I can run trains on him all day long.”
@martijn9568
Жыл бұрын
@@ilikepies4877 lmao
i see f16 i press like
No patience for top tier. Will be back when they decompress it a bit.
"Here's the rewards, if you actually care about such a thing." Tell me you're good at the game without telling me you're good at the game lol. That's what I'm focused on, but I'm also not done with my American tech tree grind yet. I'm doing Russia after that.
The need to please the Asian market i guess....
Buddy