Does the video even mention that Zed is MacOS only?

@benmcmullan718

6 ай бұрын

Standard Apple fanboys leaving that out.

@Mempler

6 ай бұрын

I mean, if you use only 1 platform you tend to forget it.

@stayhome8342

6 ай бұрын

And do you think the Linux community would allow that ?

@Mempler

6 ай бұрын

@@stayhome8342 ofc not lmfao

@ghostinplainsight4803

6 ай бұрын

If you're a developer mac is so much faster to compile. It's not even close. It used to take me 23-25 mins to compile Hybris on a beefy gaming Windows machine, it's 3.5mins on M1 mac, 6 mins on Intel. Node frontend builds are much faster too. Worth the investment for that alone.

People been asking for a Windows version for almost year. And there's not even a Linux version! You could change the title to "The best editor that 95% of coders can't run". But looks very promising!

@hclyrics

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, I can't take a code editor seriously if it isn't cross-platform.

@samsep10l

5 ай бұрын

they're working on the linux version, you can actually compile a build for linux and it kinda works, it does crash from time to time but it's not horrible. would still use vscode for now though.

@xObscureDarkness

5 ай бұрын

95%? Every company I've ever worked at as a software engineer was comprised of like 99% macbooks

@okanakyuz

23 күн бұрын

Only for coders who can build from the source code, not for noobs

@aberba

21 күн бұрын

​@@xObscureDarkness "You" have worked with 👌

Once there's Windows and/or Linux support, I'll for sure give it a try. My ass does not own a Mac though.

@anujbarve

5 ай бұрын

Exactly!!

@KyuDoesCode

15 күн бұрын

It's out for Linux & can be built for Windows as of now

_Mac_Only_ needs to be prominently declared in the video right up front.

@KyuDoesCode

15 күн бұрын

It's out for Linux & can be built for Windows as of now

As much as I love the fact that we’re finally getting vscode competitors, I have to be kinda skeptic about how artificially limited Zed is. Closed source afaik, mac only and no extension api might seem like small inconveniences when the editor is brand new but it means that it will never really have a reason for it to be preferred over vsc for more than toy projects and lightweight file editing (that neovim with a gpu renderer like neovide already does better). However the native collaboration, gpu rendering and installing extensions and LSPs automatically when projects are opened are all really nice features. Wish they were attached to a more production ready editor

@rmdashrfv

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, I actually knew about Zed prior to this video. I watched hoping for something more I may not understand, but I ended up just thinking that I'm right where I should be with vim

@m4saurabh

7 ай бұрын

You are wrong, though I hate the that it's mac only, but I tried it on my friends MacBook, and it's was fast and snappy, and it's supports auto complete, debugging, other basic lsp features, it's build using rust and tree sitter. It's having a memory footprint that vscode could only dream of. Yeah it's not a toy project.

@AllysonTS

7 ай бұрын

On github they said they have a project to make it open source soon.

@peterwilbrink718

6 ай бұрын

It is open source now

@serge4192

6 ай бұрын

it's opensource and Linux support is planned for this year

There's also the beautiful lite-xl which is so lightweight that it can run on a calculator.

@hallooww

7 ай бұрын

which is better? zed or this

Using an old Intel mac, god this editor is fast. Opens in seconds. Feels fluid, and had a built in CLI. I use it primarily for python.

Multiplayer Collaboration looks good until you realize you need to run your code to test it

Vim and Neovim are strangely missing from the speed comparison charts.

@evanzhoudev

7 ай бұрын

I think they’re referring to GUI editors, but of course vim and nvim are fast choices :)

@anon_y_mousse

7 ай бұрын

@@evanzhoudev GVim exists and is a great choice if someone wants to use a GUI.

@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384

6 ай бұрын

even jetbrains is faster on a good machine.. basically zed is another one of those companies which will soon hang up a notice saying, we are stopping development because the vc money is over

@evanzhoudev

6 ай бұрын

@@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384 I do not believe this is true. Perhaps something that I wasn’t clear about in the video is that Zed is built by the same people as Atom, and they mean for Zed to be the successor to Atom. Thus, they have plenty of potential. Additionally, not everyone has a “good machine”… even some jb IDEs are decently slow on my Apple Silicon MacBook

@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384

6 ай бұрын

@@evanzhoudev isnt zed vc funded?

everyone a gangster until vim like real monster arrives

Looks really nice, just one more question. Is it possible to auto upload on save using an FTP server? since currently that works flawlessly for me in VScode and is something i rely on for a lot of different tasks.

@evanzhoudev

8 ай бұрын

Not yet available! This ties into the whole extensibility thing :)

As a Vim user that know uses sublime text. I can say rhat sublime is better than most editors out there.

@hardi.stones

5 ай бұрын

This.

@oraz.

5 ай бұрын

I agree completely. It's weird how much it's ignored vs vscode.

@Bestmann3n

15 күн бұрын

@@oraz. well its ms, with their legions of fanboys, influencers and marketing money. whenever someone feels productive with copilot, I know I'm dealing with a 0.5x programmer because copilot can't do anything to help you with the actually difficult stuff.

And now it's open sourced!

@hrqmonteiro

6 ай бұрын

No one cares, actually

@Beryesa.

6 ай бұрын

@@hrqmonteiro lol, you have no idea.

@youtube.user.1234

5 ай бұрын

That’s actually great, now just waiting for Linux support and I’d try it out! :)

Best editor with Exclusive OS not available for everyone, what a joke!

Bro this vodeo was cool! Can you tell us what you use for editing the video and how do you syncronize the audio with the text?

@evanzhoudev

7 ай бұрын

Davinci resolve :)

@korigamik

7 ай бұрын

@@evanzhoudev what sort of plugins do you use? Can you share your workflow?

One big missing feature right now is the git integration. I couldn't find my changed files, or some tool to resolve conflicts by looking at them side by side etc

intereseting editor with a lot of potential, but im missing the plugins from vsc, especially the snipets and i would love to have my own icon packs / themes

>only available on macOS LMAO

great video !

Zed always makes me a little sad because i'm hanging out for an editor that isn't built on electron and Zed seemed like exactly what i wanted but it's MacOS only. Still... nothing to do but wait I guess.

I've compiled it on Windows, but I cannot change it to another project folder for some reason.

I bought Sublime Text for 2 weeks. I like the speed and the design... The Interface GUI of sublime Text is closed source... I cant use that design in own projects. Now I try iced with Rust. The documentation of Iced is still empty...

There is no functions/methods browser (or known as outline in VS code). And is for Mac only. So, I still prefer VS code because I can use it.

Misleading title. I've heard of it (I wish it had something like a Flatpak for those poor GNU+Linux users).

@Redyf

6 ай бұрын

Eww, flatpak

@adamjones7497

6 ай бұрын

You are not everyone.

@abdullahbinsoulatsoulat7754

19 күн бұрын

There is a Linux version now 😊

Wtf only for mac os😢

summoning salt?

**Talks in MacOS**

Welp I ditched vscode now

Wake me up when it's open-source and doesn't require me buying apple hardware

How to use lsp with with it?

Contains secret network code - no thanks

Is there any debugging, breakpoints, watches etc…?

I wish it had a debugger

@evanzhoudev

7 ай бұрын

Could always be added in future updates!

@TheBurntHoney

7 ай бұрын

@@evanzhoudev If they manage to implement it well i will probably use it as my daily driver.(I’m trying out anyway though).

@qwerasdfhjkio

6 ай бұрын

​@@TheBurntHoney I never understood why people want debuggers? I get it that it may be convinient sometimes, but the way I write code is so that if there is an error on production, I should be able to get all the information I need from the logs

I have tried this editor and this editor claims it is faster than Sublime text, but it is not. Sublime opens as quick as this editor if not faster

@trejohnson7677

6 ай бұрын

0.0001 of time spent is spent on opening…

I press command enter on my keyboard in the assistant panel and nothing happens, no text gets submitted and no response from the AI... I've added my gpt 4 api key etc..

@ayush9790

6 ай бұрын

if you found out how to fix this please update it here, i am facing the same issue

not for windows? why we? 😢

As of today, only MacOs is supported.

Without Emmet support, it's definitely not going to be a serious VS Code competitor.

@tristen_grant

4 ай бұрын

Without support on things other than Mac, its not going to be a serious competitior.

Looks like a great editor. But I can't help but think of "Zed is dead" -Kill BIll

It's not Emacs, therefore it cannot be a good editor by definition.

Very depressing that it's only for Mac. I'll continue using vim.

Switched from Atom to Zed right away after watching this... Atom is good, but it has always felt sluggish to me. Zed feels really snappy!

It would've been nice to not waste my time if only the video started with "MAC ONLY"

VSCode? Did you mean... FiasCode? 😎

OaaS, Optimisation as a Service

Speed ? Laughs in Notepad++

Neovim starts with 58ms and i have a large amount of plugins enabled so 😕

@LudoTechWorld

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, the speed thing struck me too... If 350ms is fast then I don't know which adjective is suitable for Neovim. Not to mention that Neovim has potentially an infinite amount of more features with its plugin system. And it's cross-platform... And it's open-source... Even VScode has those things... Well, Zed is interesting in some ways, but it seems very far to be a viable alternative to anything at the moment.

@AhmadMughal1

5 ай бұрын

@@LudoTechWorld Yes the only way VScode comes even close to neovim is due to the sheer amount of plugins it provides which will never be the case for Zed and in terms of speed it will also never be able to compete with Neovim so it is very far right now from finding a middle ground between these 2 metrics. Not to discredit that Neovim has a lot of plugins too now and they don't also effect the speed of the IDE due to lazy loading and well written lua scripts rather than using Node and Javascript. I did write my own plugin for neovim and honestly it was quite straightforward and works perfectly for me.

If they get Linux support out, I will try it. Sounds Great, but without Linux or even Windows support, it's not that useful in a not mac exclusive Company. Not to mention the high cost of macs for individuals.

I ckecked the Link -> Open Source and and Folder called .cargo --> Rust... The speed is no surprise, only Zig is faster but not better!

I just wish sublime text was better supported. I miss it

@oraz.

5 ай бұрын

It's my main editor. I think it's pretty well supported. Updates keep coming and the popular plugins stay up to date too.

no github integration to commit and push, that's a drawback currently

will it be available for windows?

@namenlos4374

5 ай бұрын

I hope not. Love hearing broke windows users cry

@scare5602

4 ай бұрын

@@namenlos4374 might be the dumbest comment i've read, my windows pc cost more than my m2 mac.

When they start with “beautiful”, typical Apple fanboy characteriatic

Never, Vim is the best editor

it doesnt have code recommendation , am i right , it just provide syntax highlighting

@evanzhoudev

Ай бұрын

Yes it does have code recommendations! Both similar to intellisense and Copilot if you have it. Zed has nearly all features natively in VSCode and more!

Not for Windows?

But only for mac

there is like 1000000 videos on youtube talking about the "next ide, the vscode kiler, bla bla bla...." but are people really switching to those code editors ?

@evanzhoudev

8 ай бұрын

If you’d watched to the end, you’d know ;)

@stevvns

7 ай бұрын

I did switch to Zed about 7 weeks ago :) I had a journey of Visual Studio -> JetBrains -> VS Code until this year. And then I started experimenting trying Neovim and Helix and some other options. Modal editors are cool and fun, but my wrists hurt terribly after just 3-4 days using neovim full time. Ergonomic keyboards didn't solve this problem for me, so I've resumed my search for a new editor. I did not want to go back to VS Code, just for the reason that I've already been there. So I came across Zed, tried it and loved it. My primary issues about Zed are: - No integration with test frameworks at the moment. - No debugger at the moment. - Automatic indentation is not convenient. It stubbornly adds offsets where they don't belong. But all of those are not show-stoppers for me. I rarely used debugger in VS Code (once in 2 months perhaps), so if I occasionally have to debug from console, it does not bother me at all.

does this work on linux?

@qlx-i

5 ай бұрын

Vim works on linux.

And how does the debugging and code execution work?

@evanzhoudev

3 ай бұрын

I don’t think there is debugging yet, but there is an integrated terminal, from which you can do nearly everything that’s missing :)

@10_bn

3 ай бұрын

Could link or point out how to debug e.g Python Code using just the shell? I could find any straight forward instructions.

@evanzhoudev

21 күн бұрын

Well, I’m sure there are debugging CLIs, but you can just simply use print statements 😅

no windows or linux :(

The best editor is neovim.

Does it have vim mode? If not, its speed is worthless

@absarrahman9177

6 ай бұрын

It has vim mode built-in

@urisinger3412

5 ай бұрын

it does

Its a shame its MacOS only.

mac os required 😭

Just use neovim and be happy

The best editor is neovim. Prove me wrong

MacOS only editor cannot be considered "best".

Does anyone know the VS Code theme used in the video ?

@evanzhoudev

5 ай бұрын

🙋‍♂️I know! (One Dark Pro, my favorite theme and the only one I use!)

@Jonathan-Dsouza

5 ай бұрын

Ohh great is it a paid theme ?

@evanzhoudev

21 күн бұрын

Nope! (sorry for the late reply, I’m sure you’ve probably found out by now 😅)

@Jonathan-Dsouza

21 күн бұрын

@@evanzhoudev haha no worries 🤝

I think Zed isn't that capable to dethrone vscode as it still lacks windows and Linux support.

@Light13378

22 күн бұрын

it not it is avavible now in linux

@KyuDoesCode

15 күн бұрын

It's out for Linux & can be built for Windows as of now

Is it not available on arch linux as zed-editor?

@wolfram4ik

5 ай бұрын

it is compiled for arch AUR, but support is not here yet. Package is just not woring as intended.

Not cross-platform is a serious fail 😕

its not even available for windows

zed have a git menu similar to vscode?

@evanzhoudev

7 ай бұрын

No, unfortunately not… a feature I’m personally waiting for too! CLI is great for some things, but I prefer using GUI for commits and merging lol

@hotmiihir

7 ай бұрын

@@evanzhoudev me too, i asked for the facility with merge conflicts or similar problems, but thx for the answer :)

How is it for Rust?

@dantenotavailable

6 ай бұрын

Probably because it's built in rust. Dogfooding and all that.

It is not faster then neovim

too bad its only for macOS, soo

Does it support Linux? NO. Does it support extensions? NO. VS Code it is.

When Linux?

@tristen_grant

4 ай бұрын

Its on the AUR.

So basically this is barely fine until extensions arrive and it's macos only. Pass.

arent you the donut guy?, only problem is running and debugging

@evanzhoudev

28 күн бұрын

yep :)

Obviously it's mac only🔥

@evanzhoudev

8 ай бұрын

As a devoted Mac user, I’ve never seen a problem with Mac only apps 😅

@eineatombombe

8 ай бұрын

@@evanzhoudev well I cant really use a Mac, and i don't understand why they used metal instead of vulkan, like metal isn't easier or anything

@nefrace

8 ай бұрын

And also closed source as I can see.

@GeckoEidechse

8 ай бұрын

@@evanzhoudev based on Stackoverflow suveys, Mac has the smallest user base among developers so making it Mac only severely limits the amount of exposure it can get.

@technovangelist

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@eineatombombemetal is far easier than Vulkan when building on Mac.

I've never clicked the dislike button in my whole KZread career... What was that??? It has breadcrumbs as a feature??? And you didn't use it because you click on images and they don't open??? Not to forget it's MacOS only but of course why do we need to mention that of course everyone uses Mac

What is the font in vscode at 1:00?

@excalizan

8 ай бұрын

it should be one dark pro i suppose

@AcidNeko

8 ай бұрын

SF Mono

@evanzhoudev

8 ай бұрын

I use Monaspace Neon now, switched from CascadyaCove :)

Mac only... how about you save us time and mention it at the beginning of the video?

linux, linux, linux

If is only for MacOS, then it is useless. The best OS today, especially for web developers is Windows 10, 11 with WSL.

Mac only makes it completely a non starter for me. I don't waste my money on getting scammed for RAM. I have always done all my development on systems with at least 32 GB of RAM in eother Linux or Windows. And now with WSL developing on Windows is even easier. Sorry Zed, looks like I'll stick tk neovim on Linux and VScode on Windows.

@stevvns

7 ай бұрын

Just give it some time. They really do plan to support other systems.

@pulkitdwivedi8263

5 ай бұрын

32GB?!

I like sublime a lot more than vscode for these same reasons.

Too much drama. You never seen before? Sublime Text was doing pretty much same thing except the extensions weren't that good

This is extremely soydev coded

What is this 'MacOS' thing ? a closed-source distro? Would be great if could be used on a real OS

vim is faster

no thanks

macOS only 💩

Vim support is trash

MacOS only, so USELESS!

🤮 mac only

btw atom sucks

waste of time