Got the Helm 2 following one of your reviews and can’t fault it, absolutely love it. Being 6’2 I’ve always struggled finding a tent that I can sit up properly. Fantastic value for money 👍👍

@grimlightwildoutdoors

26 күн бұрын

Night cat backpacking tent, durston xmid 1 and oex phoxx ii all great for tall people I’m 6.6 tall I have no issues with these tents.

@woodywoodhead175

26 күн бұрын

Why are the side lines not more up in the middle. So low make no sense.

@DrBradYT

25 күн бұрын

I’ve got the helm 1 us upgrading to the helm 2 worth it? I’m 6ft2 and the 1 feels snug

Just bought the Helm 1 compact on eBay here in the US. Used it once on the AT in North Carolina mountains. It's super sturdy, fast pitching, plenty of room for me and the doggo. Love it so far

Been out in my Helm 2 and love it, bought it a couple of months ago used it 3 times so far

Thank you Andy, really good video.

Absolute cracking tents, i opted for the Helm compact 2 as pack size and weight difference are barely noticeable. Ive got the zephyros 1 V3 or id have a helm 1 aswell. Good review as always mate 👍

Cracking review of a cracking value tent Andy All the best

I've had mine a year now, paid £160 new, absolutely great tent, light, small pack, plenty room inside, great in moderate winds and rain, warm in the winter and you can ventilate brilliantly with the little door at the back. Plus it has that extra vestibule at the back to put your pack. It pitches so quickly and all in one, I really cant fault it. Agree with your review. Great review again Andy

@stan633

26 күн бұрын

I paid £160 for the Helm 2 new two years ago. Amazing how much they've shot up in price.

I’ve just got this for bike packing and will be out in it next weekend for the first time. I’ve got the helm 3 and thought it was great for two people with lots of stuff so looking forward to trying this out when I’m by myself.

I bought the Helm 2 after your review last year. Cracking tent. Just a tad on the heavy side but I’m 6ft 5 and the dome shape works great for my taller frame. Pretty sure I used your discount code too.

Yesss Andy, literally bought this tent this afternoon after watching your west highland way series. I had a lanshan 2 for the longer hikes and camps but sold it to get this one. It should be here on Friday so I’m hoping to be out in it over the weekend. Great video as always, honest and in-depth 👍.

@BackpackingUK

27 күн бұрын

I genuinely don’t think you’ll regret it. It’s a do-it-all, take anywhere, pitch anywhere tent!

@GeoffGreenawayOutdoors

27 күн бұрын

@@BackpackingUK nice one Andy, that’s what I think I’m going to enjoy about the helm one. Not over thinking a pitch, hopefully can get it into most spaces.

Bought this a year ago for well under £200. I bought it for Bikepacking as the poles when folded, are much shorter than most, so fit in my frame bag on the bike.

Just bought one last week after deciding I don't love getting in and out of my Naturehike CloudUp2 (no other complaints with it - it was bombproof in heavy rain camping in it for work a couple of weeks ago). I've decided I'm going small tent for festivals this year and leaving the Berghaus Air 4 at home - I hate waiting for it to dry on packdown morning when I could be on the way home. So my new Helm 1 Compact will get a first outing at Black Deer next week, then hopefully some wild camping before another festival in August.

You've answered the exact question I've been thinking about; whether to get the Helm 1 or Pioneer 2 as I could see they were about the same weight. Very helpful. Thank you.

I have the helm 2 and love it. Fab tent.

@davt8615

27 күн бұрын

Same mate love my helm 2 compact absolute quality. I've got the little zephyros compact 1 V3 also great tent, came with free footprint 👍

Great review had this tent a while and definitely my favourite tent I’ve owned so quick to put up and take down!! Got mine from summits outdoors £150 2yrs ago bargain.

Looks really good cheers

I'm not sure I would call a £200 tent budget, but it is high quality and good value.

At first I found mine to be a little cramped, but I hadn't been tent camping for a while and my personal admin was all over. Now I've really gotten used to it, and I really like it for 3 season use. I have the Panacea 2 for winter just so I have more room to spread out when I have more kit to carry. My last camp was in my Lanshan 1 and I felt really cramped and closed in, I really missed the Helm 1 and being able to sit up properly.

Superb tent, my first wild camping tent and has done me wonders for the last 18 months, sadly I'm currently boxing mine up and selling it on as I've upgraded, truly impressive tent and glad someone else will be able to enjoy it (it's currently listed on Facebook on a lot of the wild camping sales groups for £160 including footprint and shipping)

@BackpackingUK

27 күн бұрын

What did you go for? Always interested in peoples purchases!

@keaneeastwood197

27 күн бұрын

​@@BackpackingUKgone for a Trekkertent Saor DCF, I've also got an x-mid 2 solid, so my helm just doesn't have a use anymore sadly, both are lighter, pack similar or smaller and it's always fun to try new gear.

@BackpackingUK

26 күн бұрын

@@keaneeastwood197 I’ve been looking at the Trekkertent, it’s a bit like the Hilleberg Unna!

Super tent the helm compact 1, personally I do like using the footprint for extra protection for the bottom of the tent which helps keep it clean, and it gives a nice storage platform for gear as well as improving the entrance when entering and exiting. thanks for sharing!🙂...

I’ve got the Helm 2 my mate has the Helm 1. They’re great tents. I do like the extra space of the 2, particularly in winter, but the flip side is the 1 handles wind better. We’re both about 6’1” and I think that’s about the maximum for the Helm 1, particularly if you have a thick sleep pad, the Helm 2 is probably good up to 6’3” or 6’4”.

I was going for a used Helm 1 but price was not far off a new one, on advice went for a Helm 2 in the end, been out twice so far and find it excellent, just the right amount of room for one person and kit, especially in wet Irish summer weather when bit more space is very useful

I dont call £250 budget. There are lots of people that would live to get a decent tent but they are way to expensive. In my case i am my wifes full time carer so on benefits so £250 is far to expensive for us.

@KNURKonesur

27 күн бұрын

Naturehike is the option for you then, they are still around 110-125 quid and amazing quality for the money. Can't go wrong with one of the middle-range Decathlon ones as well, plus they have amazing warranty.

@Phil.Oakley

27 күн бұрын

Unfortunately 250 is nowadays. £2 is the new £1 in today's money. The quality of this far surpasses most in the same range. It can be found cheaper online and I'd rather have this than naturehike or 3ful. If you want to keep costs down go for something from oex range or decathlon as both well made brands

@Geordiewildcamper

27 күн бұрын

I've got this tent, but also the Naturehike Mongar 2, an excellent two person tent

@davejones9330

27 күн бұрын

​@@Phil.Oakley this is what I did, around the time of just getting into camping and with dreams of nothing but the best then my girlfriend was made redundant and my work hours was massively cut back I had to rethink, several OAX items later a bargain by exped air mat ect I'm just about good to go.

@gazza1858

27 күн бұрын

You can get it a lot less than £250 if you shop around

Hi Andy. Thanks a lot for another great review. Although that you’ve already mentioned that the footprint is not really needed, don’t you think it helps with storing our gear, so it doesn’t get the moisture from the ground overnight? You could then store your backapack and boots in the side storage compartment. Also additional cooking mat wouldn’t be needed. Have you used the terra footprint before, does it add a lot of weight? Is it worth to buy it as well? Appreciate your reply, would be very helpful. Many thanks 😊

Vango Banshee 200 is the ideal 1 person tent for me. Outer pitch first, so the inner doesn't get wet. Also anything wet you put inside dries out pretty fast

Hi Andy. I have this tent, it’s mega, I love it. I agree with you about the footprint, a waste of time. I would advise people to get the tent, but save the money on the footprint. Cheers Dave 😀🥾⛰🏕️

I got through a pretty stormy night at Angle Tarn in the lakes in mine recently - I was at a course a week or so later and the instructor said his ML assessment group had camped in the valley that night and still had some damaged tents! I got a slightly bent (red) pole probably because I hadn’t tensioned the side guy lines evenly… but the gusts must have been 40mph+ and from varying directions. If only they made it in the TN range fabrics so it was a bit lighter and less bulky it would be perfect!

@BackpackingUK

27 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing. The Pioneer 2 is pretty much in between the size of a Helm 1 and 2. It's like an upgraded Helm 1.5! That's why I like it so much. Perfect size for 1 without being too big.

I just would prefer a darker green material for the helm compacts, still a great tent though

Cloud Up 1 is a much lighter and over a £100 cheaper. Is really good too. Really fast pitch. Claims to be 3 season, but im sure with the right gear you can survive a colder night, too.

Hi Andy. You tried the River country one person pole tent yet? Fantastic, and under £60.00. Lightweight, really waterproof. My best tent, for the money. Give one a go.

I've been considering this tent or the Helm 2 compact for a while but decided on the Vango f10 nexus ul instead.. Pretty certain it's a newly released tent from Vango. It has similarities with the Helm 1 compact. It's about the same weight (1.9kg) but it's a two person tent, so more room and two entrances.. Nice to have a Vango again, had a Vango Hurricane back in the 90,s..! Definitely worth checking out..

@BackpackingUK

26 күн бұрын

That looks like great tent, better than their other new one in my opinion.

@chrissyayles7175

26 күн бұрын

Absolutely, I'm looking forward to getting out there with it.. Maybe we'll see a review from you at some point..! I didn't know Vango had released another new tent as well.

The Helm 1 is a solid tent for very poor weather Had it for years Very easy pitch Recommended But 2kg is too heavy for me I use the Lanshan 2 for backpacking

Cheers Andy

That might be good for the UK, that doesn’t look to be well ventilated with all that material and not so much mesh. I believe there are better options out there.

@andye222

27 күн бұрын

For the money, what else would you recommend instead?

Hi Andy, Different tent question here but how do you compare the Scarp 1 to the Vern 1? Which 1 would you pick out the 2?

@BackpackingUK

19 күн бұрын

They are 2 of my favourite tents. If I could only have one it would be the Scarp because it’s so versatile.

@leerobinson4553

18 күн бұрын

Would you say it’s roomy for someone who’s 187 cm’s tall & 106 kgs? It’s lighter than the Vern 1 as well isn’t it? I’ll be going back to your comparison video to check it out again! It would a tent for 4 season use.

Nice tent. I just picked up a Naturehike Targar 2 as a day-hiking emergency-cum-luncheoning shelter. It fits really easily into by bushcraft satchel as well. But this would perhaps make for a better winter version.

@BackpackingUK

27 күн бұрын

This is on my list. From memory, it's a see-through mesh inner only, is that correct?

@scotbotvideos

27 күн бұрын

@@BackpackingUK It's a single skin sil-nylon tent with a mesh inner door, a mesh ceiling vent I think on the other side, and a mesh second vestibule similar to the Helm 1. What attracted me to it were the price (£125 off Amazon) and its easy pitching. Reports suggest it can have a problem with condensation, but I think as an emergency shelter it's safer and more robust than a bothy bag. Regardless, a microfibre cloth can take care of condensation for one night if it came down to that, and one British reviewer considered it not as bad as some make out which re-assured me enough to buy it for the stated reason.

Great review Andy, as always. Not in the market for a new tent myself, but still thoroughly enjoyed watching, and lots of good advice for anyone who is looking for one.

Wish he would review the decathlon forclaz mt 900 looks a lot of tent for the money , loved to see what he thinks if that

@BackpackingUK

26 күн бұрын

I have 👍

Andy, any chance of you getting your hands on a Tarptent Rainbow or Double Rainbow? It looks like exactly what I'm looking for, but I don't know what the shipping from the States looks like for additional taxes etc.

@Foxtrottangoabc

27 күн бұрын

I got a tarptent dw moment plus bits few years back and from memory the customs was something like 70 pounds

@BackpackingUK

27 күн бұрын

I fancy a double rainbow BUT I'm waiting for their X Dome tent due out later this year!

@KNURKonesur

26 күн бұрын

@@BackpackingUK that one looks great on paper from what info I've seen! Durston fanatics (and High Route 3000 deniers) are already upset :D With the TNT fabric and double long pole I assume it will be much more expensive than a Double Rainbow though...

Got it and i Love it. It can take some beating to? But it would be nice to se it in a UL version like the Nemo hornet osmo elite and under 1kg 😊.

@BackpackingUK

26 күн бұрын

Yes, they should make a Nylon version!

Hi, £200 is a bit expensive is for a budget tent. How about the oex phoxx2 or oex bobcat 1 when on offer. Or the lanshan 1 for £110. Good videos as always i just agree with it been a budget tent.

@BackpackingUK

27 күн бұрын

I must admit, I do like a freestanding tent, and I think this is one of the best value ones out there. Don't get me wrong, the Phoxx, Banshee, etc, etc are great value do-it-all tents as well.

I have used the lanshan 2 pro 4 season the last 2 years Great tent buy s bit too big for just me. I've ordered the LS1 pro 3 season including foot print 950g. And £140 from camper list..i would like a free standing tent tent but 1.9kg.is too heavy.

I came across a mountain hardware mineral king 2 tent for £150. I placed the order have you got any experience with Mountain Hardware tents?

@BackpackingUK

27 күн бұрын

I’ve seen MH tents at a show and they looked great apart from the colours. The ones I saw were a bit too colourful!

hi hope your good , i am new to your channel got some very nice videos,......... i do have questions hoping get back to me , am looking for budget bikepacking kit , main 1 is tent as really don't want be spending 400 pounds for few trips but also like be able to any way want on my bike so handle bars or if can be spit side of forks , so me do like 50,100 ,200 ,300 bunch to get me 1 to 2 person tent and me large size sleeping set.....any ides be great help thanks

A good place for these is Colin Pollard who has the South Coast outdoors KZread channel. He runs outdoor gear essentials online store and I've just checked, he's got these in for £200 delivered

@BackpackingUK

27 күн бұрын

I think you get these for the same money direct using the discount code.

@Phil.Oakley

27 күн бұрын

@@BackpackingUK definitely worth the £200. My helm compact 2 is on the tents to keep list. Only issue I find is the pocket locations and they really sag but it's still better than the cloud peak 2

Not convinced about those 8.5mm pre-curved poles. They're going to be inherently less strong and rigid in high winds and a likely point of failure if a really strong, sudden gust catches the tent.

Hi i use zephrous 1 gret tent good video im a new channel wild xamping dartmoor and survival 🤟🤟

I think a budget tent is the vern 1. A premium one is Hilleberg.This one is an under budget ?

@BackpackingUK

27 күн бұрын

I guess everyone's budgets are different.

@egertcaka

27 күн бұрын

I love your videos ❤

Ha I bought mine new for £130

Now are you sure it's the best, have you tested it against all the others??? We all remember the Vern1 incident

Me being pedantic here but your title is wrong and you keep calling the tent by the wrong name. That tent is the Helm COMPACT 1. The Helm 1 is a different and older tent. I own the original Helm 1 and it is quite a different tent.

@BackpackingUK

27 күн бұрын

You're 100% right but most people just call it the Helm 1.

@SPierced

27 күн бұрын

@BackpackingUK indeed they do, and it does my head in 😄 🤣 😂

Too heavy for a 1 person tent for me.

@BackpackingUK

27 күн бұрын

Fair enough, that's it's main drawback.

Great tent but not budget tent Andy. £50 - £175 budget, £175 - £450 mid range, £450 and above high end tents in terms of pricing. £750 and above luxury tents for those lucky enough to afford this level of investment. Tent weight light weight tents are 1.5kg or less and ultra lite tents under 1kg.

@BackpackingUK

26 күн бұрын

Everyone is different. Someone commented £500 was budget!

@grimlightwildoutdoors

26 күн бұрын

@@BackpackingUK working class prices above mate, £500 not a budget tent at all to the majority of people run a pole on it ?

@BackpackingUK

26 күн бұрын

@@grimlightwildoutdoors totally agree, £500 is a lot of money for me, I’m just saying some people out there have different views what’s budget and what’s not.

@wazeroonie6084

26 күн бұрын

Andy says in the video you can buy it cheaper, a quick search and I’ve found it for £180 with many more at £200. I’m working class and I’d consider £200 as the top of the ‘budget’ range. Also, for me that’s also the most i’m willing to spend on a tent, not really interested in anything more expensive as I’m not going to get any more enjoyment out of my camping after spending an extra 200/300/400 quid on top. Also depends when you buy your tent. The Bobcat 1 was £79 at Go Outdoors a few months ago, now it’s £110.

@user-jg2wf6wp8j

25 күн бұрын

In 2021 the helm tents were under £175 if you looked around. In fact my helm 2 was £160. It's a good tent, does well in the wind, and is versatile. I now think that it's in the mid cost category.

160 is all it's worth. It will fall to pieces.

@BackpackingUK

26 күн бұрын

Owners will tell you otherwise.

@etztz123

26 күн бұрын

I own the helm one and two. It is a good tent, particularly in high wind. However the clips break easy, the seam tape lifts, and the material wears quick. The stitching is coming undone on one of the corner pull out points and the pole sleeves are wearing where they cross. I've used it a bit but probably no more than 15 times. Given my experience thus far I'd say it won't last much longer. But you get what you pay for I guess. Would I buy another, probably not.