This is an important topic. I wish there was room for more diversity of experiences.

Awareness is the key to discovery. Every animal and every human has the ability to be aware

@curtcoller3632

3 жыл бұрын

yes ... and at some point "awareness" becomes self consciousness.

@mschau9136

3 жыл бұрын

@@curtcoller3632 ⁰

@angelusvastator1297

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. But humans are more aware of the abstract, metaphysical etc.

@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked

3 жыл бұрын

Science > Scientism Spiritual > Religion Dualist evidence > Material atheism dogma

@jameshopkins3541

3 жыл бұрын

@@curtcoller3632 I THINK SO I EXIST only humans can say that becausse of his superior brain cortex

Wonderful talk ! I am an open minded person and proud and happy to say that I am Hindu. I follow my religion and my Gods not because of religion sake but because when I prey to my Idol of God or a picture of a god, It brings my body physically, mentally and emotionally in HARMONY and in Balance with whatever Elements are there which regulates our Human Bodies. Can not explain anything scientifically but just through personal experience. God is a Moral Support when you need him/ her. We need someone when there is no one to depend on. Why we have different religions because everyone feels better by following one a kind god. We all are different so we all follow different gods. But pushing someone or dragging someone to follow their own religion to expand their religion in the world is WRONG. Extremely WRONG. Follow what you BELIEVE IN. That's my Way.

@vak5461

Жыл бұрын

That was really beautifully explained Thank you very much. I feel like I do understand, at least a tiny bit more 💗

@CJ-tc7xh

Жыл бұрын

Why not just depend on yourself? Your inner god or your inner peace? Religion is no longer needed in this day and age. We can find peace and harmony from within. It’s all dependent on your outlook of things. Believing in things that hold no truth behind it is keeping us at bay as an evolving species. If we were all religious we’d probably be extinct now. Become more aware and stand for the future of our survival.

@jessicahorton7552

Жыл бұрын

@@CJ-tc7xh Can a dependence on a god of some sort not be the brain’s way of depending on itself? Perhaps a projection of characteristics such as strength, courage, and capability onto a higher being who you believe in whom presumably also believes in you is how the brain depends on itself after all. Besides this though, if one’s beliefs bring them peace and do no harm onto others, then what is the issue? There is no need to invalidate other people’s spiritual views or bring them down for it. These ideas are so sacred to whom they belong to, and if these interpersonal views have done nothing to hurt you, the person who holds them, or others, then they deserve respect.

@antonioscendrategattico2302

Жыл бұрын

@@jessicahorton7552 True. But to be fair, that's a big if. THere's a pretty undeniable correlation between most mainstream religions in the world and conservative views on society, focused on benefitting oneself and one's immediate community to the expense of everyone else, and the idea that there's only one right way to live and everything else outside of that is wrong.

@blinkybit

Жыл бұрын

Not everyone feels better by believing it following a god as you say. The best thing that ever happened to me was being kicked out of the Jehovah witness cult. Now I'm a post. grad. with a few science degree and I can't believe how stupifying religious ideology is. Ignorant belief systems of convenience.

At the root of all this are questions. They are the purest form of curiosity. I have found that a great way to tap into the conciseness of the universe and beings within it, is to lay in a dark quiet room and ask questions. When we ask questions we are by default listening instead of thinking. And we can listen with our minds just like we listen with our ears. Ask a question. Did you hear an answer? Did you feel an emotion? Where did those come from? Are the answers or feelings anything you could have possibly ever thought of individually? Congratulations. You are possibly talking to the universe or other beings within just like us, maybe non physical though. Ask if it is the universe. Ask if it's something/someone else. Ask who you are talking to. Ask specific questions. When you're connected, you can have a conversation. It is absolutely profound. Nikola Tesla talked about this exact thing. He said he would get information from an external source then work out the mechanics of the concept(s) in his mind, then build it in physical reality. I have done this. I do this. Many others do as well. Most of us do it daily and don't even realize it. Consciously realizing that you are connected, is a profound experience. I think this is what people have experienced when they say they have felt God come into their lives. And I love what the Dalai Lama said. I've come to the same conclusion. When reaching into the depths of science and combining that with an amazing first hand personal experience, I have come to the conclusion that the universe is a conscious being, and that all things in it are conscious as well. The reason there is something instead of nothing, is becasue of the universe's conscious intent to explore and understand itself. And that it is consciousness which holds together pockets of low entropy, where things like the equations of classic physics hold true as long as that consciousness holds those areas together. Without science we could not create the things we do in this particular pocket of low entropy. But without the consciousness of the universe, it would not exist to begin with. And then there's free will... The universe intentionally gave us a free will, so that we could help it explore itself and ourselves at the same time. Over billions of years, we too can become creators of universes. In a sense, we can catch up with the universe's rate of creation and understand it in it's entirety. At that point, there is nothing left to learn or explore here, so we create our own universe to continue learning and exploring. And the universe wants that for us. It encourages to become co creators. That's why, although exploration is very hard, it is rewarded greatly in many different forms.

@woodygilson3465

Жыл бұрын

You're talking to yourself and your brain isn't a reliable source.

@dhoroniboruah

3 ай бұрын

4

The most educated minds are still human. No one can ever know the vastness or the beginnings of time and universe. We don't know what we don't know. And that's ok.

@Nonentity33

2 жыл бұрын

But we do not now today what we will know tomorrow.

@isaiah7640

2 жыл бұрын

Actually the ancient kemetics explained it. All u have to do is research you know

@Leadership_matters

2 жыл бұрын

I know!

@amandacasey3724

2 жыл бұрын

i agree, and it’s all speculation, and what we know vs what we don’t is such strange vastness of understanding. yet the ways we learn about ways of knowing are unique to our experiences and that should be appreciated as a start. i think we shouldn’t create objective truths but rather ideas to follow we can interpret on our own as meaningful or not to our life

@mariconsciencia139

2 жыл бұрын

ignorant and limited comment, dude! wake up, you’re more than that.

For me, it is very interesting that from eastern old philosophy, they CLOSE their eyes and they do their study, observation, and meditation, and they gain wisdom and knowledge. For example, Buddha did this way. In western philosophy, they OPEN their eyes and they do their study, observation, and calculation, and they gain discoveries and knowledge. In both cases, the doer is human, the curious human. We need to seek the combined knowledge from both ways to get a better understanding of human inside out.

@smartspiritsergzh9892

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!! That's IT:)))

@smartspiritsergzh9892

4 жыл бұрын

At least:))) God hellps:))

@Omirikad

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed and it's only going to change and diversify in the future since this is evolution always trying to optimize better ways to truth to map out this wondrous universe that we live in. Kinda interesting though because as of now, that's also true when it comes inner work. One can face his demons both through introspection or through exposure in the natural world.

@angermanager2116

3 жыл бұрын

Open one eye.

@jorgemedinaruttell7956

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't work that way,

I guess that Pink Floyd concert when I was 20 and had a Pocketful of windowpane and seats on the 14th row Center Stage would qualify as a spiritual experience as it still leads to a physical reaction when I remember the saxophone solo for Shine On You Crazy Diamond and how completely transfixed I was at the time I can still feel the wind flowing through the hair I could grow at the time and the security guards hand on my shoulder because I was standing on my chair LMAO

I considered myself an agnostic until I completed grade 12 physics at the same time I discovered the Emerald Tablet. Learning that Newton was one of the translators of it realised that they're both describing the same concepts. I literally found God through understanding physics

@miraa2k16

Жыл бұрын

I get it totally. I grew up christian and my monk friend asked me a question I didn't know about Babylon and suddenly two months later of intensive study and scholar work and I'm completely convinced that either everything is real and profound or none of it is

@uncleanunicorn4571

Жыл бұрын

Does physics demonstrate the trinity, transubstantiation, or virgin birth?

@MrSidney9

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations. You’re still living in the 18th century. Does anyone actually think Newton would still be theist if he was living today? Consider also that He was not just a Christian. he was what one that today one would call a nut job of a Christian, who spent most of his time deciphering prophecies. Perspective: about 96%of modern physicists and 70% of modern philosophers are agnostic/atheists. The most he would have been is some kind of Deist.

@miraa2k16

Жыл бұрын

@@MrSidney9 now that just isn't true. A simple Google search and the first thing I see is the myth of 95% actually being about 49% of scientists in general describe themselves as non religious affiliated. The other 51% is only about half as much as the public believes in general and that is actually about 95% of people in the world believe in a deity or higher power. In conclusion, don't speculate about a dead human being and instead go look it up

@edwoods845

Жыл бұрын

@@MrSidney9 if only that were true... what a time the 18th century would have been to be alive. I could have been a real live pirate. Thanks for the insight about Newton. Add that to the list of what I'll assume are your many great contributions to the development of civilization. Cheers 🃏

I've spent the last 2 years searching for answers to questions purpose, meaning, reason, and spirituality through physics, philosophy, ideology. I got to obsessed with trying to find answers while going through some sort of midlife crisis...often losing track of whats truly important in my life. Now, all i seek is to get rid of this tension in my 💀&❤. I can only assume this has happened to at least some other ppl too. I wish I could give advice, but I can't. Well, maybe 1 thing...connection is good.

@farajbeden7786

3 жыл бұрын

I have been in such a dilemma seven years ago my dear but have finally settled after realising that the most important thing to know is what's NOT true not what IS. Religion is obviously not true and assumed knowledge is not knowledge at all. It's worse than ignorance! Be an agnostic through out your life and keep studying science. Join movements that are helping humanity to fight ignorance and superstition. Many humans are suffering excruciatingly in religious controlled areas of the world like Sudan, Moritania and some parts of Nigeria. Are you aware that slavery is still being practiced in Islamic strongholds such as; Moritania, Sudan and Saudi Arabia? Be an amateur philosopher it will help you to help others and also help you get along with the dilemma of life.

@aspirant2231

3 жыл бұрын

I got a bit clarity what it would be like if we know everything (knowledge ) from a movie named luci. See it. gathered knowledge is like ocean today....analyse, store what is right and useful to you. There will not be single answer for comlex

@theautodan7095

3 жыл бұрын

I can offer some advice... As someone who has searched for answers deeply for 20 years I found many in a molecule known as DMT... While some may disregard it as a drug or hallucinogen, no one that has experienced it will, for even a moment, think such a thing. Its a deeply eye opening/mind opening experience that literally transcends our notion of reality while at the same time explaining so much, no beliefs necessary... A "knowing" takes place. I was very much a grounded atheist before this encounter. Enough salesmanship though... If you want some answers and you're genuinely open to searching for the truth, I must insist your journey include experiencing DMT, at least once, preferably twice.

@trybunt

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you can't find answers, and that's ok. Sometimes we just need to acknowledge that our experiences, and the experiences of others, are important to us, and this can be enough for me. We are part of the universe, and we care about what we are doing, that can be all the meaning we need. Sure, maybe the ENTIRE universe doesn't care specifically about us, but why should it? Also, sure, maybe our experiences wont have eternal consequences, but why should that make them less important to us?

@saramiranda5060

2 жыл бұрын

SPIRITUALITY MEANS WORSHIPING DEMONS.

Amazing 67 minutes of intelectual experience- WOW! We need more of such events in the current world

@SamtheIrishexan

2 жыл бұрын

Need more debates to be considered intellectual to other things like politics and we will be the most informed electorate in history, maybe not the Annunaki.

@arbez101

Жыл бұрын

77 minutes.

@charlesdunn169

Жыл бұрын

true I helps to show how ignorant and stupid people truly are

@matthewhawking4318

Жыл бұрын

There exists strong evidence for a religious war. Jack dikks. Avoid construction.

That very last question just to pinker, who acknowledged its profundity - was brilliant. Good job, brian greene.

Thank you Prof. Green or whoever is choosing these meaningful and insightful conferences worthy of watching! Particularly this one on Jung is brief but with a lot of information. Thank you!

@trafficjon400

2 жыл бұрын

I know all that information was great. especially the way she was speaking scared me a bit, i loved the way the entire conference went in a experienced creationof it. it seemed they were comfortable also. i was thinking about 1 word the one on the left used but not sure what it was relating two. some one identified the entire meaning of this talk show but found it also really nice like as if they were my parents wating for me to order them around!! lol but not sure about it. oh well what a little story it was pretty nice happy go lucky like..i saw one last week like this one and it was nice. my next door friend is nice too. we all have so much time like this .

@matthewhawking4318

Жыл бұрын

Okay, are humans wired?

I'd love to see this panel take Ayahuasca and then talk again on the same subject 💫💖💫

@andykappes5708

3 жыл бұрын

ASE lol

@tylerpowell8191

3 жыл бұрын

0 000

@TaPharoah

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds dangerous.

@michellehenrico9480

3 жыл бұрын

True

@andrewsirchenko9663

3 жыл бұрын

Ahah) I think it would be a revolutional panel)

Thank you to the organizers, the Brian Greene and the panelists for sharing your years of knowledge and research.

@potato-ld1uj

Жыл бұрын

On Mr greene's behalf, your welcome.

@christophermyers8157

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for towing the company line!

@classica1fungus

Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about god dude like tftf

@steveflorida8699

6 ай бұрын

However, their years of knowledge does Not know the source and origin of Life - living organisms. Their secular materialistic thinking 🤔 is Void of knowing the source and origin of human Consciousness.

A great conversation, and one that needs to be discussed. Thank you. I came across this remarkable book entitled "The Reality of Life and Spirituality in the Universe" by Marshall Vian Summers, that I think ties in well with this conversation. It actually goes into detail about how religion works in what is called "The Greater Community of intelligent life." and it is completely free to read online. "Religion exists in countless forms in the universe, from very simple tribal practices to practices that are undertaken by large empires and by large assemblies of nations that have adopted a singular practice. While there is diversity in the universe, there is rarely diversity in one world. As nations become more technologically focused and as resources become more rare and difficult to obtain, uniformity and singularity become the central emphasis and here religious institutions almost inevitably end up being tied to the state. Some nations become entirely secular, never having had a strong religious tradition of their own. Or in the case of being colonized by another nation, whatever religious tradition they had was assimilated and often erased from public consciousness."

@johnchapman5125

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks ALW

@lamin3990

2 жыл бұрын

This caught my eye, will read!

@rickrobitaille8809

2 жыл бұрын

Need to read that Book😃🇨🇦

@SometimesInnocent

2 жыл бұрын

"Religion exists in countless forms in the universe"? That's ridiculous. "on earth" yes, but how can it be said of the universe?

@alwalw9237

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes innocent.....because the Source of the information comes from beyond our world and is in a postion to Know. Admittedly, it takes time and an honest, open minded study of the many Revelations Marshall has received to be able to discern the truth of this. It is all available for free to the world for people to examine should they choose to do so.

Fear causes stress and the remedy to fear is knowledge and understanding and I think that ties into the missing piece of information it helps to reduce stress when you find it

The biggest concerns for our reawakening species from forced amnesia we must develop mental and spiritual defenses that have been forgotten and even labeled mischievously as wrong knowledge but reality is these unseen entities are as real as the seen and our mankind connection is not yet recognized and needs to be. It literally is a survival tool

@Skynet_the_AI

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, i know. Right.?

@janetkelly4280

2 жыл бұрын

@@Skynet_the_AI I'm just glad it seems everyone is seeing truth instead of this crazy blinded way of being the past thirty years. When I was little the elders would all tell you about your self lol

@Skynet_the_AI

2 жыл бұрын

@@janetkelly4280 😃 ⚡💛

@kimberiedema6951

Жыл бұрын

so you mean spiriality is false and that believing in god is wrong?

@charleswidmore5458

Жыл бұрын

walked they always secret and hidden, found, yet not found by the children of man. - Thoth, Emerald Tablets

The problem that I find in this type of conversation is the question "do you believe in God"? The real question being ask is :Do you believe in the same concept of God that I do? How does a person not believe in something without accepting there is something to not believe.

@ggggia

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@GVSHvids

3 жыл бұрын

Nicely said

@samprada9298

3 жыл бұрын

That's why I always recommend Terence Mckenna.

@jensjohansen1

3 жыл бұрын

As I understand you, you are saying that my lack of belief in a God necessitates that there is one. But why can all conecpts of God not be only examples of what our imagination can create and do to us? Otherwise you would have to accept the reality of some sort of reality for whatever idea I might dream up. In other words: 'if it can be fantasised of, it must be real'. To me that sounds obviously wrong.

@endthisnonsense7202

3 жыл бұрын

There is no god, there is no concept of god people can choose to believe in, there is a fictional idea that is called god that some people belief.

1:14:16 what a beautiful and inquisitive question and what a downer of a response by the panel except for only one who understood the thought experiment. Mr. Greene never fails to impress me, including his follow up questions which are instrumental to the quality of the conversation! The end is very telling: they all come down with a bad case of materialism except for Zoran Josipovic I woke up too the last chapters of this conversation and thanks to Mr Zoran Josipovic i'm eager to rewatch it in it's entirety!

Brilliant conversation, was especially impressed by Zoran Josipovic the best explanation about consciousness I have ever heard. Thank you Brian Greene bringing this group together

@jwvandegronden

Жыл бұрын

Can you share a timestamp or a quote? Thanks!!

@rudyvanderhoeven9628

Жыл бұрын

@@jwvandegronden you ask me to go through the video again just to find a nice quote?

@jwvandegronden

Жыл бұрын

@@rudyvanderhoeven9628 uhm, yes?! It simply is YT courtesy to refer to the actual moment in the video so we can share in your enjoyment. Moreover, it is required for us to understand which part made you so happy; otherwise it renders your comment utterly meaningless

@rudyvanderhoeven9628

Жыл бұрын

@@jwvandegronden You might be right, my comment was an expression of enjoyment that I wanted to share. There always be azijnzijkers

@jwvandegronden

Жыл бұрын

@@rudyvanderhoeven9628 Hey mate, why call names? I'm neither an "azijnzijker" nor am I dissing your wish to express yourself. I'm not asking you a gotcha question but a sincere reference point of the thing that impressed you. And if you just want to express your delight for the sake of it, by all means, have at it. If you want to share your experience with your fellow youtubers, share either a quote (doesn't have to be verbatim, just your take on it) or a timestamp for us to go to and share in your delight! This series is about enlightenment, not closing curtains. But most of all, do whatever you feel is right.

Thank you all!! If I could add, I wish we could stop creating the void between religions and realize how completely the same most are. Again. Thank you!

@staninjapan07

4 жыл бұрын

I would have thought it better to say something similar but with people, and not religions, as the subject. Agreed, there are similarities between religions. There is one striking aspect that is almost universal among religions, though. They are all exclusive. Every one of them with a central doctrine even if it not explicitly written... exclusivity. Mine is right and youirs is wrong.* They cannot all be right. ( * the view of believers, and not my personal view)

@staninjapan07

4 жыл бұрын

@Capsicum Onion Thanks for replying. I am sorry, I do not quite follow your point. You seem to be suggesting that if I were to adopt Hunduism or become and adherent, then I would no longer hold the viewpoint I expressed above. Is that right?

Zoran Josipovic ❤ Was the gold in this wonderful discussion. Speaking so clearly and articulate about consciousness and the experience. I have had the experience and I can manage it now again and again in my meditation but could never find words to explain all of this in words so well like he did. And I read many trying to explain consciousness but never before was such an attempt made. Now have to read more of his books and research. Nice discovery for me today. Thanku Sir Brian Greene. You are not just a Physics hero but more.

@saramiranda5060

2 жыл бұрын

sara miranda il y a 1 seconde Beleive IN GOD, dont beleive in what theses scientists beleive in: lucifer and demons. When they talk about alliens,they mean demons.Being spiritual means practicing black magic, being in contact with demons.

@bronsonstone725

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there, if you care to experience oneness while going about your day, then can I suggest, abidance in beingness. Do this while walking somewhere peaceful, create a feeling of unconditional love, hold onto this feeling, then imagine yourself expanding beyond the body. Eventually you perception will shift from the body to everything. Don't freak out though, go with it, it's beautiful. When this is temporary it is called nirvikalpa samadhi, when one has stabilised in this state rendering it permanent then it is called sahaja samadhi. I recommend looking into youtube channels "Medicine of One" and "David Godman", and the main sage to focus on for now, "Ramana Maharshi"

@squarerootof2

Жыл бұрын

Sir??? How about His Lordship, Viscount Greene?

@simonsharp3319

Жыл бұрын

I wish they had given him more time than the others. Whilst their theories and hypothesies are all very interesting it's clearly not on the level he has worked on - actually treat consciousness seriously as a phenomenon rather than an intellectual abstraction..which is what the others are basically doing.

Spiritually knows the answers before science does. Its something we feel but can't truly define because it beyond our earthly senses. Consciousness is devine and Consciousness is connected to the true source. Out pull from inside is to get back to the big bang, to reunited.

Harmony is what is making each one of you able to sit up on a stage and chat openly about your own traditions, beliefs or non beliefs and converse without drama or wanting to take ones life or 'take one down' when what one has said is different to your own or grates your prefered way of living. Gill;Dx

I don't know if this discussion emphasizes enough the fact that science itself needs to make plenty of assumptions in order for its theories to work, especially when it comes to consciousness and the fine-tuning found in the universe.

@brettneuberger6466

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Zoran tried, but was then ignored the rest of the discussion by those the moderator regarding as “really knowing.”

@zappertxt

2 жыл бұрын

Could you explain more? Which ones, for example?

@IstillHeartMyPrivacy

2 жыл бұрын

The fine-tuning argument has been debunked at-length elsewhere, so I don’t think anybody felt it was necessary to engage with an obsolete idea. I was disappointed that the others nodded in agreement and let Zoran equate science and religion. Science has a very long track record of providing naturalistic explanations for things that used to be attributed to the supernatural. Religion has yet to demonstrate a single time where a supernatural explanation is the best one for a phenomenon that previously had a naturalistic explanation.

@kreyvegas1

2 жыл бұрын

@@IstillHeartMyPrivacy How has it been debunked? With the multiverse trick?

@kreyvegas1

2 жыл бұрын

@@zappertxt Probably the worst of all the assumptions that science makes is the belief that we live in a stupid and purposeless universe whose mysteries will all be, in time, explained by physics. There’s the other one whereby we are told that everything can be known; can everything be known? I doubt it. They also assume that coincidence is no more than that; weird flukes in a world that should be easy to explain by means of statistic measurements. Science assumes that dreams are just the way our brains organize memory, which, by the way, is directly connected to the belief that brains produce consciousness. And one more thing that might not be strictly an assumption, but it is a feature of science, is that subjective experience is dismissed as nonexistent, and therefore, not worth studying, not worth of consideration.

If you seek what's real, you have no time, nor need, for belief. Finding what's real in your own experience, is all that's necessary. This can be done anywhere, anytime, in any way you like. This is freedom.............. All thought is old. Belief is coagulated thought. And so, belief is a sorry substitute for knowledge. Look. Just look. But look deeply. As deeply as a scientist. Inside.

@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself

4 жыл бұрын

Belief is always a component of knowledge. It doesn't make sense to know something without believing that it is true. Otherwise, you're only ever guessing and maybe getting something right by accident.

@alan5496

3 жыл бұрын

"If you seek what's real, you have no time, nor need, for belief." If I'm correct, you're implying that belief isn't real, but then you suggest for people to look "deeply ... inside", which is equally as unreal as belief. If you were to look inside for real, you'd get an x-ray or some sort of scan, there's not much to see beyond that. If you think there's something beyond what an x-ray or a biopsy/autospy shows, then you're using belief while denying belief. Words are equally unreal, they're tools used to convey meaning. If I told you how to build a UFO that doesn't use fossil fuels in a language only I understand, how real can words be in your experience? Just as real as belief right? Can your experience alone determine what's real? Experience involves a few things: observation, perception, and action. Without belief, you're just observing things without making a value judgment. Is it more useful to eat a steak with a fork or spoon? Should a scalpel be viewed as a tool for saving lives or taking lives? Belief and values are equally unreal and yet in your everyday life, you use your values to decide your likes, dislikes, superior and inferior objects or ideas. And what do you mean by freedom? Are you saying: Less belief, more freedom? If you read a book without the belief you will learn anything, is there any point in reading? If you go on a date without the belief that you have a future together, is there any chance you can have a future with them? In order to make something creative, you first have to believe it can be done before you can do it. Architects imagine structures before drawing up designs. What would they do without believing that the imagined structure can be actualised? Just stare at the paper?

@goudie4christ1

3 жыл бұрын

"freedom" to spend eternity in Hell with the devil. No thank you. Why do you think anyone would believe you when you suggest you have no time for "belief". What a bunch of baloney. Everytime you fall asleep at night you "believe" you're going to wake up the next morning, every time you drive your car you "believe" you will return home safetly. Maybe you should take your own advice and discover what is actually real for once-- ask God to reveal Himself to you---if you're man enough.

@md.noorulkarim5542

3 жыл бұрын

Remember they all are atheists, they are discussing from their atheist perspective. How they come to conclusion from their non-believing hypothesis? They should include in the panel some theologists.

@md.noorulkarim5542

3 жыл бұрын

Atheist’s perspective .

A reporter was interviewing a famous mythologist, asking whether myths are "true". The reporter struggled to understand the answer. The mythologist's young daughter, hovering around her mythologist Dad, as children do. The reporter acknowledged her by asking her if she thought myths are true. The girl thought for a moment, and said, "myths are false on the outside, and true on the inside."

@kathrynbrinton3606

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this. Such a succinctly powerful way of explaining myth. One could use the same definition for great literature!

@classica1fungus

Жыл бұрын

Myths are myths

@eppurse

Жыл бұрын

@@classica1fungus Then why do we create them? What are the sources?

@classica1fungus

Жыл бұрын

@@eppurse drugs

I've just seen this - I don't know why I missed it as soon as it was released. I believe it is because the universe didn't want me to say anything until now. I am a keen scientist but also a practicing Problacist. The universe not only tells me what to do but also when and how to do it. Search for Problacism and see what you think. It's not easy being a Problacist as we are not allowed to seek recognition or reward for anything we do, but I don't suffer from any anxiety, depression or worry and I am continually in awe of the beauty all around me. I suspect I'm one of the happiest and most fulfilled people on this planet. Trust in the universe and be relentless.

I think the reverse will become more and more evident that we will slowly become more and more spiritual as we realize because of science that something did start it all and that we don't even live in the reality that we believe we live in to begin with.

@tempestive1

2 жыл бұрын

That's a slippery slope leading to solipsism. I'm curious though. How do you define spiritual, in your sentence? Everyone I meet that uses it, uses it to mean different things depending on beliefs.

@eddie1975utube

Жыл бұрын

@@tempestive1 TIL sol·ip·sism /ˈsäləpˌsizəm/ Learn to pronounce noun the view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist.

@christophermyers8157

Жыл бұрын

Your right! That's what the power of the iPhone, computing, and the internet will do to most of society as systems like Neurolink and the Matrix will take over. People will think they are correct, and doing what is right, because they feel good! Getting hit after hit of dopamine directly to their neuroprocessors without even knowing how it is coming in from the outside, and in most cases, not even knowing they are drug addicts to electronic media.

@christophermyers8157

Жыл бұрын

@@tempestive1 Spiritual means immortal intelligence and self identity! However that is only half of the truth. You can be spiritually ignorant, sprititual, evil, and immortal. Only Jesus shows you who your immortal self is. We are creations of a higher power that is omnipotent, omnipresent, exactly like us, but He is on a higher plane since he is the creator, and we are the creations. All knees and truth will bow to the one creator who is Jesus or they will cease to exist. Do you trust your own knowledge to run the entire Universe? Jesus did, and he laid down his life for his enemy, and resurrected himself to scientifically prove he conquered death. Not only was his resurrection proof, but Jesus brought Lazarus, and by some accounts many others back from rotten morbid death in grave clothes, not a simple heart stoppage for an hour, but a complete decompostion of the body. This was factually observed by dozens of observers, many in opposition to Jesus' teachings, and written in to history as a story that most believe is just that a story about conquering death. However, anyone with a revelation from the creator, knows this to be a factual story, rather than made up, as the chain of evidence proves beyond a doubt, when you go outside of the church, state, and university teachings and do your own independent research into the bible, the church, and governments in general. They all cooperate to oppose God and knowledge flowing freely from heaven, by claiming human intellectual superiority is now at it's highest point, when it is easy to prove the opposite just by looking at all of the pyramids in every country of the world!

@ahall9839

Жыл бұрын

Man, there's a lot of dumbasses who have spent less than 5 minutes in their entire lives thinking critically looking to justify their idiot beliefs in this science video.

This program was recorded live at the 2018 World Science Festival and has been edited and CONDENSED for KZread.

@anialiandr

4 жыл бұрын

they should never edit it.

@israelquito3072

4 жыл бұрын

THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION!!

@AnkitRaj-pg1sp

3 жыл бұрын

How long was it got real

@aspektx

2 жыл бұрын

That's too bad.

Spiritual ( soul) vs human knowledge ( mind) - can’t be compared. One will always remain limited by the analytical boundaries

Thank you for everything you do for everyone everywhere!! 💙🖤✨

Zoran’s explanation of non-duality is about as good as it gets. The moderator is clearly biased toward materialism, as he essentially ignored him the remainder o the discussion. A huge problem with science is its resistance to ambiguity. If one considers personal experience to be an indicator of Truth, and consequently, reality, Zoran’s offering the only perspective that can be universally experienced by all of humankind. Everyone else is presenting theory and belief.....exactly like religion. Belief in materialism is every bit as much a belief as is a belief in a god.

@turn-turtleeducationalmedi6009

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. It's also Interesting that this panel, assembled to discuss "The Believing Brain," does not contain a single "believing brain" or anyone with a true spiritual perspective. And every person chosen to represent the spiritual side of the equation in the video was, in fact, was agnostic at best. This includes the Dalai Lama since Buddhism seems to me to be pretty much an agnostic belief system from an alethiological viewpoint and atheistic from and epistemological viewpoint. What shocked me the most is that Greene and Pinker identified with a "tribe" but lumped all Jewish people (14 million +) in with a Jewish-yet-atheist worldview. This can't possibly be correct, can it? It seems to me that their scientific process is flawed and has become a religion called "scientism" even among those who claim it is not.

@2CSST2

2 жыл бұрын

@@turn-turtleeducationalmedi6009 'It's also Interesting that this panel, assembled to discuss "The Believing Brain," does not contain a single "believing brain" ' It's the World *Science* Festival hosting an event about the subject of the believing brain, I don't see what's so interesting about it. I'd be surprised if they didn't talk about that subject, but I don't see exactly why the panelists themselves have to incarnate the subject. What if the subject was reptiles, would you be surprised not to see a crocodile invited to give his opinion? XD Before you try to get Brian Greene in a "getcha" moment, you better think about what you're saying yourself lol

@2CSST2

2 жыл бұрын

Materialism is just based off what we observe *empirically*, that's a first major distinction with faith. But also, it's subject to change in its definition or also can be itself rejected upon evidence and again according to how it's defined. Now if you're talking about someone who believes that the world is just materialistic in whatever sense no matter what, just like the faiths of religion, THEN yes it is like them. That's just because you're not even talking about science or skepticism anymore, you just made up another religion as if it proves that any position is like religion, which is absurd.

@hollyweaver1442

2 жыл бұрын

All really good points

@brettneuberger6466

2 жыл бұрын

@@2CSST2 Yes. I completely agree. “Truth” is relative to one’s perspective; which, I suppose, makes a good argument to never blame (judge) someone for being “wrong,” since the only way to be wrong is if we know for certain there’s an absolute (we’re) right. Maybe there’s just “is,” absent of absolute right and wrong; perhaps absent of any-thing. This isn’t to suggest “isness” couldn’t have qualities and be a practical way to live, yet, the only way to really know is to experience what it’s like to live as the “is.” Interesting proposition. Is this the answer? Live as is without thinking or judging? Just live, just be? Seems like we’d be much more peaceful individually AND collectively. If my logic is sound and my assumption correct, I suppose this gives us a good guess at what isness could be made of. Which begs the question, how then could anyone complain about the quality of their life if it couldn’t get any better than it is? Of course, everything I’m saying is relative. Kinda makes one think though. 😉

"Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real"(◕◡◕✿) - (physicist) Niels Bohr

@leif1075

3 жыл бұрын

@Ankit Punia why can't quarks be regarded as real? They certainly are in the sense that they are elementary particles...just not actual marble or point like particles in a clasical.sense..just some kind of wavefunction like electrons or other elementary particles...

@josephlancaster7997

3 жыл бұрын

To deny matter it's reality...leads only to...madness.

@josephchristopher2427

3 жыл бұрын

@Ankit Punia look broke you are real and cleansed and BET now are God less in your everyday, probably cause it said he would turn his back on you at the end and it can upload you all at once or peice by peice. I know of a few my imaginaed Crew and I have not met anyone in person.

@user-vu5eq8co5w

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephlancaster7997 Well, actualy madness is the acceptance of the idea that reality is made of microscopic marbles. Matter is just a level of organisation of energy. And energy is just a level of organisation of information. And information is a fundamental form of existence similar to absolute absence of it.

@robertk1992

3 жыл бұрын

@Ankit Punia This is correct. I believe there are a few people close to the ultimate answer or the truth. wont be long before connective consciousnesses solves all problems. happy contentment.

Suffered 18yrs. Lived through prayers faith trust and hope.. suffered Persecusions base on fear for 18 years

@veronicakaese7655

Жыл бұрын

Living under fear was in grip of losses of dignity intergrated intergrity. It is

Really enjoyed this open forum discussion. Glad the set up was entertaining too. Had to watch a few times as all the effort into precise and carful wording had my brain going in circles for a sec. You can really see the care, attention, and dedication of these peoples work in the way they talk about what they know.

@trafficjon400

2 жыл бұрын

OOOHH YES !! they are so much on target about things. i like concerts and picking apples . but i hope these people don't get my master mad at me and sends me to hate's. but he won't he is keeping all his humans and the next life after death will be the greatest we can not fathom . dying sucks roting wood pecker eggs and painful for lots of people. but many see a great comfort when dead for more than 3 minutes coming awake to explain it nuch later to help keep thier sanity check.

@trafficjon400

2 жыл бұрын

Ya they know about as much as any one i ever knew taking wiled gusses like my dead dog duke especially

Every time I try to diverge my guide sends me back into the light talks to me via my thoughts 💭. Super beautiful and helpful. Today is the day I found my purpose. 2021 June 21

@trafficjon400

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds sneaky. can't trust it

@GrimmyPigeon

5 күн бұрын

schizo

Zoran josipovic understands it all very deeply. Fantastic work friend, you've done well.

@Joe-kn3wt

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I too felt the same.

@fineasfrog

3 жыл бұрын

@@Joe-kn3wt Yes, certainly he showed much more direct experience of the fundamental nature of consciousness. The others on the panel including the moderator were exclusively confined to being limited to only one "side" of awareness or consciousness that Zoran illustrated with the gesture of putting the tips of the fingers of his two together to 'model' the two sides or aspects of the whole. The others were limited to that mode of awareness or consciousness that can't ordinarily recognize itself. And so they could not really recognize the significance of what he was presenting. This "one side" is a field of experience that is confined to the side of knowing as a subject who is having experience (basically experience of the 'contents of consciousness' without direct experience of consciousness itself, isuch a one has only a vague notion of "there must be some subject here that is experiencing these objects of experience') and uses that content coming from a not directly known subject to try to explain consciousness itself. The abstracted objects (contents) of consciousness as long as they are indirectly seen through subject-object consciousness can not get to the fundamental nature of the whole and the varies relative levels of wholeness that appear within the greater or more encompassing whole. The others being so limited in their view (dare I say 'veiled or blinded') failed to even considered the question: What are these 'two sides' that Zoran is presenting and how is it that they can be seen to be two aspects of one whole of consciousness. And how does the path of this realization of wholeness of the two sides serve as a more proper context to explore what consciousness is and how the many notions and ideas that arise in consciousness may be understood.

@Joe-kn3wt

3 жыл бұрын

@@fineasfrog Yes, you made it so clear there. Him being among them created a space for the presence of the absence of the 'other side' and the fact that he didn't say much shows, in away, it wasn't the kind of atmosphere that would absorb that kind of consciousness. In short, we are losing the 'object' in the 'act' of measurement. The body itself is the embodiment of motion and the observer is part and parcel of what is being observed. When that boundary dissolves however, Consciousness rises to the fore so naturally that even 'words' lose their meaning and become helpless in their attempt to 'represent' or describe our so called 'reality'. I hope it makes sense.

I'm not as interested in concepts of social cohesion and death anxiety as I am in what the endocrine system and neurotransmitters are up to. It was a good discussion, though, with some interesting perspectives. I hope people keep talking about this.

Interesting how you think as scientists. Thank you for the panel and the candid thoughts , one day things will be clearer than they are now. Very much appreciated Dr. Greene.

I was 8 yes old and I was beaten so horribly I was literally lost in my feelings and an inner almost voice type experience expressed within my understanding process to pity don't hate. This was my mother hurt me. I was lost, and I started hating my mother. I hear pity don't hate. Simple right. But hugely powerful and I chose to hear that instinctive intuitive voice within my own self that I recognize as my own higher self connected to the universal All. Ask and the shall receive and I asked the All, or God for those who still use the singular aspect, bit it still connects all things. Choice is just that. Wrong action is understood internally. So laws and rules made my any man is not accurate. Every now for every person has its own right of being and each is different and together it all makes harmony when right is happening

@christophermyers8157

Жыл бұрын

God hates evil deeds! Hate is not wrong! Pity means you believe you are a superior intelligence to those you pity! The voice you heard was the devil, Satan, Lucifer, or one of his demons. It wasn't God. Jesus hates money changers, and people who infiltrate the church to teach evil. He hates those who leaven his teachings, which are the ten commandments, and the beattitudes. If you were abused, you should hate your abuser, however if your abuser asks for forgiveness and claims they were a stupid piece of shit for doing that to you, then you are obligated to find it in your heart to forgive them for their ignorance. Or else you are claiming that it is alright to abuse people out of ignorance by pitying someone that is ignorant. Father forgive them for they know not what they do! That is not pity, that is straight up hate and forgiveness.

Brian, you always select the best brains for your programs. This was not different. Thank you for that. I am a physicist, a non-orthodox catholic priest and above all a fan of all sciences. I am a strong believer in "something beyond ". The moment you describe it, it becomes nonexistent. The moment you experience it, it becomes more and more existent. But, I do not understand how any one can say that something does not exists without knowing everything that exists. Science has not fully known even a grain of sand.

@saramiranda5060

2 жыл бұрын

Beleive IN GOD, dont beleive in what theses scientists beleive in: lucifer and demons. When they talk about alliens,they mean demons.Being spiritual means practicing black magic, being in contact with demons.

@SYSM71

2 жыл бұрын

Best comment! Idealism is coming up!

@8slkmic

2 жыл бұрын

@@saramiranda5060 no it doesn't. Where are you getting your facts from" Just because someone wants to think their is "something out there", OTHERTHAN your human religions, DOESEN'T mean that its black magic or demon BS. How ignorant of you to make such a judgment in 2022. Put your book down and learn about what others in the world besides yourself believe in and how they live there lives. Be thankful that you live in a time where you able to easily learn about people all over the world and not in a time when you didn't know what land, water, or country existed other then the one your on. If you believe that demons and what not exist cool, then please provide your evidence for the court, if not, then just sit in the back and put your hand down because your not adding anything to the forward progress of information. (Just SMH) Everything that you rely on from the moment you wake up, to be able to sit and watch this video to be able to make a comment like that, IS ALL BECAUSE OF SCIENCE. Not the bible or anything of sorts.

@8slkmic

2 жыл бұрын

But science has led the way in providing a way to explain what we learn to know, is. If someone is claiming to know that something exist, God, then in order for you to convince the next person, evidence that can be witnessed everytime you talk about it, must be shown to exist. That evidence should be able to be tested that proves "it" exist to some degree. If anyone is making an honest claim that a god created, organized, altered the universe, then something needs to be displayed. How is it that we can do this for EVERYTHING else, crimes, courts, DNA, pregnancies', marital issues, car accidents, health related issues, COVID, vaccines, how is it that those things require evidence, but a god or being or something doesn't? It is understandable that people a long time ago, without the knowledge we have today of life, that it is easy to come up with ways that that universe came to exist, but at some point as we advance as a species, when need to throw out some of those beliefs. Just like the flat earth was done away with, even tho some people still "believe" that the earth is flat. Since those people believe that, to this day, how should we handle that if enormous amounts of evidence has been supplied but they refuse to "believe" it? Does that mean that since they believe, therefore, they are correct? No, they would have to provide some evidence that DISPROVES a globe earth and then PROVES a flat earth. But at the end of the day, its honestly not that serious. If want to bleieve that there is more to life, and belief allows you to live a good harmless life, then who am I or anyone to say that your wrong. If you need your belief to do good, help others, and add to society, then keep on. I'm a non believer.

@SYSM71

2 жыл бұрын

@@8slkmic Before talking about god, we need to challenge the materialistic dogma. The data/hard facts within many fields of sciences are pointing against this dogma.

Great hand gestures! Brians got a great technique to keep the audience focused as he conveys his thoughts!

Thank you so much! This is simply the best video ever! It works! Tested it myself! Thank you very much. God bless you.

This was an interesting conversation, but I wish a religious somebody (Father Guy? A Tibetan Priest?)had been included to round out viewpoints with their understanding and insight.

@AjaKim

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Lack of balance makes this a one sided exercise in ‘rational’ thought.

@MrsYolandicook

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. It was fascinating and interesting, but I feel as though they should have had more spiritual leaders to represent those ideas.

@hs5hdrtv

3 жыл бұрын

Read my comment on Buddhism above. 🙏🏾 🙏🏾 🙏🏾 😍 ❤️

@TBJ1118

3 жыл бұрын

Empirically-based knowledge and expertise OR religiosity...pick one.

@10buk2

3 жыл бұрын

I agree however the subject here is specific between rational and irrational belief in religion

If one delves deep enough, they may come to the conclusion that while there may be 33,000 denominations, they tend to have common roots. My conclusion is that there is no right or wrong way to be awe inspired by the magnificence of this universe, and that fascination is akin to 'worshipping' The All.

@depressedasfook2893

2 жыл бұрын

There is no right way but there are definitely wrong ones. Any belief that requires you to punish others is inherently wrong

That last question was really interesting. I was eager to hear them more about it.

Spiritual people are healthier and thus happier because God wants us to hive Him all our problems, run to Him and ask for His help that's why my life is full of miracles and why my anxiety attacks stopped after i read the whole holy Bible's teachings

Spirituality began with the human mind first hearing the echoes of it's own thoughts.

@scooteranthony6297

Жыл бұрын

You were there huh? Adam didn’t here his own thoughts. God spoke directly to him.

@kind2rethink

Жыл бұрын

@@scooteranthony6297 No one spoke to anyone

@scooteranthony6297

Жыл бұрын

@@kind2rethink And you have “proof” of this of course.

@scooteranthony6297

Жыл бұрын

And how do thoughts echo in our mind? And what do you define as Spirituality?

Thoroughly enjoyable - thanks to all the panel members 🙏

@trafficjon400

2 жыл бұрын

Ya but pray they don't ya know but i want to be nice. excuse us god if ya don't mind.

As an agnostic, I don't find conflict in the thought that science can explain an overarching supernatural being, whether that being was a byproduct of the creation of the universe, or whether that being actually created the universe. Indeed, I find some comfort in the thought. But where I grow uneasy is how each denomination seems to think that it understands and speaks for that being. And in so doing exercises vast amounts of power over man. There may Indeed be a God. But I seriously doubt that we as humans can understand it. If anything, science gives us a better chance to understand it than religion does. And lastly, the whole concept of a God that requires worship strikes me as a vain glorious attachment we have ascribed to God. No being who is powerful enough and intelligent enough to create a universe would require or even want our pitiful "worship". If anything, it would take pleasure in simply watching us evolve, regardless of how we do so.

What Lisa is saying around 45 mins is what the whole conversation is geared towards about the 'believing brain' so idk why it's taken lightly. Yes there is the stigma in which the idea of religion creates but what she is saying is that the belief systems effect humans on a cellular level. Eventually we will discover that in history, these ancient cultures knew that the mind created reality. The observer effect is one example. And perhaps why they started to create belief systems because in the quantum world which we have so much yet to discover, they were that much more aware of creating realities beyond death.

@tj2636

Жыл бұрын

Lisa's explanation descended into silliness at around the 50 minute mark.

We exist in fields of electromagnetism, some of us have very keen perception and may be able to absorb another's energy or at least acknowledge some of it within the fields of energy transferance

I find it interesting that there were no believers on this expert panel, and as a person of science that introduces its own type of bias

@Margo5050

3 жыл бұрын

Key words “expert panel”. Reality is not bias.

@consciouslobster9310

3 жыл бұрын

too many assumptions for a species who can't answer where consciousness comes from , as in location in the brain . interesting regardless but I do feel like this panel could of had a few more fields of study involved in the conversation .

@Bradmhj

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Quantum physics points to a universe fine tuned for energy and matter. It points to a well structured design which in turn points to a designer or an infinite multiverse. A lot of them believe in a type of god but don’t “stoop” to the level of believing in Jesus.

@godisacorgi9835

3 жыл бұрын

I think the point of this discussion is to evaluate how the belief system works and whether it's reasonable to give credits to religion. You would typically want to hear a scientific perspective on this, and that's what the channel is all about. Now, you don't really see many spiritual/religious psychologists, neuroscientists and anthropologists out there. I can't think of any into the field besides Jordan Peterson who's very well known for his right-wing orientation and beliefs. But those people have also done some very good research on that topic.

@Blonde111

3 жыл бұрын

I think they were all believers, they just don’t follow organized religions nor do they believe one belief is better than the other...

Great panel! I really connected the most with Lisa Barrett. The development of consciousness did bring about a conflict in the human mind that causes a lot of energy (which comes in many forms). The creation of religion is a huge way to resolve this conflict. But we now need to see if the detriments of religion out way the benefits. Look into Jeremy Griffith’s work which he states there instinct vs. intellect struggle going on in our minds. Absolutely brilliant!!

The fear of falling off a cliff as you approach that cliff can motivate you to stop before you fall off that cliff. However, sometimes (the religious example) you need to relieve yourself of that stress when you can't remove the source of that stress. There are plenty examples of the latter.

Zen buddist was awakened to the earths aliveness from within this is why the walk very mindfully on the earth in order not to harm.💚

I actually remember as a baby being unable to do anything at all, I remember struggling to roll over, but the most important memory I kept fully intact was one of those shaking rattling toys, but on this toy was the image of space 🌌 stars, and a rainbow 🌈 in a black starry night sky. I connected with this toy, and remember telling myself that this is home with that warm feeling, and a wish to be back there.. (in the Cosmos) I don't think I could even roll over yet? I know without a shadow of a doubt that our souls are linked to the Cosmos. Why have I kept this memory for 36 years? I remember not being as strong as I was supposed to be, because I was a baby, but from my baby prospective it was as if I knew I was much stronger, as if I were remembering a past life. I remember my first memory in a vehicle. In this memory I was in the back of my grandmother's Coachmen Van facing out of the rear window, and I was in a car seat. I remember telling myself " here we go again" as if I were remembering being in a car in a past life. One more memory was me in a horse wagon riding on a trail, but I remember seeing the woman I thought was my mother with a large hat, or Bonnet. The memory I have was the Bonnet or top hat looked similar to the Chiquita banana lady's hat with the fruit, but replace the fruit with flowers. These memories are real 💯% I have tons of memories like these, and I've seen and spoken to entities but I don't remember if they were extraterrestrial or spiritual? But they were most certainly there. There is waaaaay more going on than what science can explain. Why do I have these memories? Gotta mean something!!

I wasn’t sure whether to like it or dislike it I wish there was a I don’t know button. As a society we would benefit from having rules because supernatural being is looking down on us and watching us and monitoring our behavior. That would benefit the tribe. But it really doesn’t explain these transcendent experiences. And we are so eager testicle to think that we are the only intelligent life that contemplates the meaning of life. They just all think they know. Perplexing

I so loved this talk, ai hope there will be more. For me it was Elephants, clearly they care about each other, they mourn. Animals are not so different from us. Look forward very much to more of these conversations. Bless all your f you vxx

"When the Self speaks to the Self who is speaking"? Virginia Wolf

@fukpoeslaw3613

3 жыл бұрын

. Well, the self ofcourse. Sometimes one can hear: "there's no such thing as a stupid question" saying that is just being polite, trying to stimulate shy people to inquire. 🙄

@garychartrand7378

2 жыл бұрын

'I' (the soul) is speaking to 'me' (the Ego). Interesting conversation between the sane and the insane!

@RobertSmith-gz9bl

2 жыл бұрын

Who's speaking? The one speaking is YOU!!!!! THIS IS WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN GOD OR NOT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION. KB OUT ❤️

@garychartrand7378

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobertSmith-gz9bl I f you do not believe in a God, I suspect that you think you are strictly just a 'human' (Ego/Fear). I believe in God (I have no choice but to believe) and as a result I consider myself a 'human BEING' (Soul/Love). Love(Soul) will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS do the right thing. Fear(Ego) however, confuses the mind and is the source of ALL ALL ALL heartache and misery on the planet. It's all quite simple. Free Will choice. Human OR human BEING. Fear OR Love.

@RobertSmith-gz9bl

2 жыл бұрын

@@garychartrand7378 I DO BELIEVE IN GOD. THE SPIRIT OF THE FATHER LIVES INSIDE YOU. THAT'S WHY I SAID YOU.

I find it frustrating that descriptions of animism always seem to me to be a broad stroke which trivializes the belief. Also, while we can agree that the mind is the locus of experience, that doesn't automatically equate to it being the locus of being. If I die drunk, i would not expect to be a drunk ghost.

@andriesscheper2022

2 жыл бұрын

You might! Wouldn't be a problem in Walhalla as long as you die in battle.

@PRINCESSDREAMYLYN

2 жыл бұрын

​@@haraldyes9957 i had a stroke and died. you are still you even after you leave the body. the body is a physical vessel that allows us to experience things here. you can think and communicate with out a body. i like hearing what people without the experience talk about things they know nothing about because they always tell you what to believe and what not to believe yet they have no clue themselves it sounds good and makes them money. i like the thought of a drunk ghost.. might be fun. lol

@PRINCESSDREAMYLYN

2 жыл бұрын

no you wouldn't be a drunk ghost the feeling one has on a substance of any kind doesn't transfer over. I died and had been given medication in the er for a stroke. it didn't effect me on the other side. matter fact my pain was instantly gone i had no physical sense of feelings at all. being drunk is a physical feeling. i watched the heart monitor flat line and thought it was someone else. after a few minutes of watching it and thinkin about the poor person that just died didn't dawn on me that it was me. then i realized i felt this amazing peace and i was no longer sick my head ache was gone no pain at all. then i realized i couldn't stay on the other side my children were young and needed me. i do not recall seeing any one but i was communicating i couldn't stay there and whom ever they were they tried to get me to stay and it was wonderful place so peaceful cozy warm no words do it justice it is an experience that i can not forget. so no worries no drunk ghosts that i know of :)

@garychartrand7378

2 жыл бұрын

@@PRINCESSDREAMYLYN besides,drunks make life hell here. We don't need no hell in the afterlife.

@juliewilderman8782

2 жыл бұрын

But that could be fun…,

The only issue I see, but believe it’s a relevant one, is that the panel is stacked with people who haven’t seen yet and have in some instance generational training to not believe and search for truth. They seek to confirm their own faulty logic and hypotheses. I too was one of them for much of my life but after some shared experiences of witnessing some occult phenomenon, without drugs, mental problems or psychosis I need to add, it changed my whole belief structure and it took quite a lot of time alone then discussion with many others to come to terms with the truth. But I’m not here to shove anyone off their safe cliff. Only giving some advice I wish I’d had back when I was so rigid. Be gentle with others no matter how wise you think you are. When it’s time for your own eyes to opened you will seek understanding and need support as well. Love one another. Forgive each other quickly, including yourself. Then look for ways to serve others more. Life and consciousness is going through a major shift and other things are about to be revealed in due time.

One question that does not get addressed in talk shows on this topic is whether the scientific mind alone is a appropriate tool to understand the role of religion beyond a point, as science and scientific methods by themselves comprise a belief system that is underexposed to the experience of the spirit or unfamiliar with experiences where a practice makes the mind (and other neuromuscular noise) go silent. More important than theology is actually practices which cultivate the instrument of the mind including purity and hygeine of thought which spiritual practice engender. Such a refined mind can then grasp reality better and advance science further. In this manner, both scientific and religious thought further the realisation of truth. Which is why many scientists stay with religion and religious rituals. And many priests in the past were the world's greatest chemists and physicists.

Spirituality is so much more than they tip toed around, it's in our DNA this is what makes us humans. The point was to take a view from a scientific aspect so you can clearly see how they could not help to fall short from a single profound thought. We are social beings, there has to be a code for us to get along, you can see how wrong it has gone. Someone stopping by for confession or something of the like to clear your conscience is not going to boost mankind to any higher plain. Knowing how to properly treat one another in the first place, living to love to the best of your ability each and every day. You do this not for fear of punishment from some dogmatic religious doctrine but because of who you strive to be, we can all be better and act respectfully each and every day whilst on this earth, this comes deep from within. If all the narcissistic people on the planet understood and clued into what love feels like it would be a great improvement. I mean really lets face it, maybe their own children would grow up to be kinder and that alone could be the start towards a new beautiful world. I better not get started, I hope I did not offend the one person to bother reading this. Go inside, deeper than you have ever ventured and just be yourself. Peace!

@peggyjohnson9733

2 жыл бұрын

You have nailed it‼️

@mariacole3235

2 жыл бұрын

Very well stated. Zoran Josipovic even though he didn't speak as much as the others, seemed to have had a much better outlook of the purpose and humanistic thought. The others to me all spoke of common sense knowledge. Too much of themselves and not much of reasonable thought. Who am I to judge but a plain citizen of this extraordinary ordinary universe. Anyhow I am impressed with your comment. Thank you for making people think.

@jo92414

2 жыл бұрын

Science proving many amazing things can be explained that perhap made how the universe exist or evolved. But nothing come close to GOD and no need to explode GOD. Can anyone or any tech command a ATOM to be as commanded? GOD IS THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS. I LIVE BECAUSE I BELIEVE GOD GIVE ME LIFE.

@alexisshannon1128

2 жыл бұрын

It's all about accepting someone without projecting your own needs or desires on them. Just letting them be and accepting them as is.

@FROGG-C2OEmiamp.

2 жыл бұрын

Stick with Sciencentuality.

Listening to Brian Greene and the panelists here was an absolute profound experience. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and knowledge

@saramiranda5060

2 жыл бұрын

sara miranda il y a 1 seconde Beleive IN GOD, dont beleive in what theses scientists beleive in: lucifer and demons. When they talk about alliens,they mean demons.Being spiritual means practicing black magic, being in contact with demons.

26:20 Steven Pinker 'What's in it for the purveyors of the supernatural?': The answer is: 'Truth and reality!' 34:35 to 36:00: Zoran Josipovic: 'Consciousness itself" For me, his statements about our innate awareness indicates the deeper truth of consciousness and reality - as one. NDEers also experience this awareness. This is surely the fundamental reality of consciousness that is the basis of religious belief. This is reality!

It's very nice to hear that intelligent educated people as in everyone on that stage all had the same opinion as I do as far as some type of belief in of culture or meditation or form of spiritualism for the self but not in a cosmic being such as God and all atheists usually you have both besides arguing and it's nice to see that people all have slightly different but similar opinions that actually makes sense and matter to someone like myself who also feels the same because when people start talking about belief and God and everything someone like me gets lost and just can't follow it even if I want to I just lose interest and feel like it's more a story they tell themselves to feel better than facts and there's nothing wrong with that but the way they treat it isn't the way it would work for me and the way that everyone described it was exactly perfect thank you very much everyone

I see in this way: we, humans, are the product or being part of this nature, and for a long time we have been studying this nature and the roles, if any, we play at least in this small part of nature we call earth. You see, isn't it the nature is using us - our developed mind and still developing knowledge - to understand the nature itself? This observation gives me the whole dimension of what spirituality is all about - how the sacredness and mystery of nature and our roles in it are being explored and recognized.

@poppie531

2 жыл бұрын

Your comment reminds me of the idea that we are all sentient beings of the universe's consciousness observing itself.

@georginaporter2448

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

There is a difference between belief and knowledge. Without a direct experience there is only Faith.

@depressedasfook2893

2 жыл бұрын

Incorrectly attributed experience is much more dangerous than faith or knowledge as it will be used to create personal I arguable validity in the person's mind

The thing is we've moved so far away from this its going to be difficult to get back,however through practice and connecting with nature and others can help, I believe.

I called the science festival, but was looking for help with Mozilla, MIT and Wikipedia license on my devices disturbing my real life, my quality of life. I realize I need to keep my faith, buckle down. and keep pursuing truth. my purpose now

I have to say, that spirituality and religiosity is good for group cohesion and can be selected that way. Believing in common things do helps early groups organize and abide by common rule, sharing labors and leadership. The earliest groups of humans showed that those who held the people together were always priests, and this stems back to earlier human thinking. This is seen in Gorilla groups that have hierarchies, believing in the power of the Alpha and the group support of that power. These primal behaviors evolve in the comprehension of nature into believing in higher powers and greater goods.

@LonganLee

2 жыл бұрын

It's also why some fall into cults. So it's not not all good like you paint it to be

@spiritualnoob8237

2 жыл бұрын

This is what Nelson Mandela did with South Africa, spreading Christianity among warring tribes and people only driven by primal instincts. Although Nelson Mandela probably was yellow on the spiral dynamics model, he didn't try to pull the other red and purple of Africa up to his level, but gave them blue (religion) so they could advance steadily up the stages

@doobzb5482

2 жыл бұрын

@@spiritualnoob8237 only driven by primal instincts? You've fallen into the trap of Eurocentric scientific racism there my friend

@aaronmatzkin7966

2 жыл бұрын

Religion is a dangerous division of unification. It promotes unity from within by lying to its victims, but it eliminates the possibility for diplomacy by arguing theocratic nonsense in place of reasonable discussion, and promotes the belief in the supremecy of each side. Each party believes they have the creator of the universe on their side, that they are acting in accordance with his will, and that they can do no wrong in achieving their goals. There is no way to reason with those refusing to participate in logic and reality. Group cohesion can exist without indoctrinating children into some ridiculous mythology, and this way, the acceptance of outsiders and ability to communicate reasonably with them isn't compromised by ancient nonsense.

@MehulP30

Жыл бұрын

In the past five years ago Ive gotten deeper in to my interest science, astronomy, physics, history, and anthropology. Never gave the role of religion much thought though. Fire, agriculture, weapons… sure. This video along with your particular comment has opened my mind to a whole other field of study 😂…

This is, by far, the best discussion I have heard on this topic, thank you so much for sharing.

@saramiranda5060

2 жыл бұрын

what is good about new age spirituality?

Analysis while helpful for understanding why we do what we do, doesn’t really do much for emotional experiences. Meditation essentially reboots, and defrags your mind/brain/N.S. from daily stress. To my mind it is almost more important than religiosity in today’s world.

Side note:. Cool graphic effects for panel introductions. Pretty creative edit skills. Nice job. Science and creativity can coexist.

Many early religions experiences were attached to ritual and mind altering substances or places. That type of experience can greatly enhance social spirituality.

@curtcoller3632

4 жыл бұрын

I hear you! Are you trying to make "substance" abuse or "drugs" socially acceptable? It sounds like.

@dru4670

3 жыл бұрын

@@curtcoller3632 drugs are bad right 😂.

@rustyray420

3 жыл бұрын

@@curtcoller3632 drugs are already socially acceptable. Do you drink alcohol?

Wow, this talk was really informative and exciting. Thank you so much for making these priceless contents easily accessible for everyone.

Thank you🙏 for your support

I'd rather not know the answers to the big questions than believe a lie

@joshbane7671

4 жыл бұрын

Scott Davis peak boomer chat, can’t wait until this low IQ atheist generation’s ideas die out.

@Dr10Jeeps

4 жыл бұрын

As so eloquently said initially by Richard Feynman. And I too agree.

@hooliogoolio4446

4 жыл бұрын

@@joshbane7671 aw

@hooliogoolio4446

4 жыл бұрын

@@paulbabione4060 Baby boy

@ayush-sn9kz

3 жыл бұрын

Richard feynman rocks

Anxiety and fear reside deep in our psyches , hence the need for reassuring beliefs , esp those shared by those around us. We find comfort in shared beliefs . Challenges to our beliefs , either from within our psyches or from without , bring out the tucked away anxieties and fears.

I think humans have always done well and thrived as social creatures. The spiritualness between tribes is what connects their commonality.

@SinHurr

Жыл бұрын

Or it creates sectarian violence in Ireland or the Middle East, or starts the Crusades. That which creates in-groups by nature creates out-groups as well.

Elephant of Kenya grieve the loss of loved one's, Elephant is brilliant and social, especially Elephant grandmother

If one genuinely realized one's own higher self, there is no question of believing anymore. Believing is not equal to realization. To believe is not absolute. Self-realization is the deepest knowledge one could ever have in this very life. One must remember - there are two wings of the brain; i.e. the left (more on physical knowledge) and the right (more on deepest knowledge of self).

@Kenlac92

2 жыл бұрын

If one simply embraced ones own farts, there would cease to be need for febreze.

@Pclub4ever

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kenlac92 Amen.

@garychartrand7378

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't this called 'subjective experience' ?

@shamrock5725

2 жыл бұрын

Have you heard of the split brain surgery where people who suffer from seizures have had each side of the brain surgically cut from each other and test have been done to show that there are almost two separate identities.

@garychartrand7378

2 жыл бұрын

@@shamrock5725 the jury is still out on that

I was once looking at a lobster in a tank floating starring at me and i asked it, i wonder what it is you might think about are different worlds? The lobster took a moment and looked at me kinda sideways and said "Human beings are the only creatures on Earth "that claim a God."And the only living thing that behaves like it hasn't got one."Does the world belong to no one but you?" And when he said it, I was taken back. Not because of who was doing the talking, but because I finally understood the connection between children scavenging for food and shiny brass plates on the front doors of banks

@skyjack8541

3 жыл бұрын

Did you eat the lobster?

@theautodan7095

3 жыл бұрын

And what was that connection..?

@Gibbypastrami

2 жыл бұрын

@@theautodan7095 I think the metaphor is that banks, places that hold money, a construct humans have made, are a made-up resource that is now just as important to survival as the food that we used to scavenge for

@2msvalkyrie529

2 жыл бұрын

Children scavenging for food is usually the result of corrupt / incompetent 3 rd World politicians . The idea that western " banks " are responsible for starving children is pathetic , virtue signalling . Designed to make the signaller feel superior.

when i was a preteen attending catholic mass, being a big believer in extraterrestrials, i used to think about jesus having had to travel to each planet in the universe with sentient beings to deliver his message, and thinking about how he must have had to continually shape shift to appear as each planet's organisms and how it must have literally taken millions of years to make the rounds.

@kind2rethink

Жыл бұрын

and he still forgot people here on earth xD and also is copy paste of greek mythology and zoroastrian religion.. kekw

Elephant Memory of recalling the routes, roads or paths is just amazing power of brain

imagine myself sitting on the concrete middle of a Round A bout. Cars (thoughts) come and go. Some circle around a few times before spinning off. Some come back at night. Most times Me / I, become aware that me/ I am NOT all these thoughts.

@theautodan7095

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment* Rough outline of a metaphor with very deep implications... Would like to hear more.

@shawnrhaweh4582

3 жыл бұрын

@@theautodan7095 another favorite. For a thought that just will not go away. Imagine its tied to an arrow. I shoot the arrow as far away as i can. I watch it land, way over there. Now. The trick is. Can I leave the arrow out in the field, and the problem with it ?? Or, do i go retrieve it. ? Ugh. (I would like to be inside a normal persons brain for a while. Im ME am always putting more and more on my plate. Does anyone have any luck with simplifying?

Dear Brian, thank you very much for providing this and many other amazing videos. I have a question regarding the part where the possible connections between mortality and religiosity were discussed. Have any evidences of a correlation between the ease of life in a time period and signs of religiosity/spirituality of our ancestors in the same period been found so far? My thoughts from which this question arises are 1- I assume that mortality or awareness of it becomes a source of fear only once it is interpreted as unpleasant and negative. The fear in turn can lead to ideas (e.g., religion) which try to lessen the pain and fear and uncertainty. 2- some other animals show symptoms of morning, yet don’t seem to be aware of the other aspects we humans associate with mortality. Can this be explained by survival and natural selection? I mean, other animals still have a much harder time surviving than we humans. So to say, they have more vital problems to solve than wondering about the cosmos. Is it possible that for the brain to become sophisticated enough to get aware of mortality, interpret it as a source of fear, and thus try to come up with comforting thoughts about it, it needs to be “safe enough” (in a collective sense) over a significant time span? Put differently, would we humans (or our ancestors) have been capable of such spiritual thoughts- such as religion - if we wouldn’t have had time for non-survival-relevant activities?

@nehpetsrellek2750

2 жыл бұрын

@Kimberly H if you had a Christian, a Muslim and a Hindu on the same stage you wouldn't have a discussion, you would have a slugfest. Ever hear of the Crusades?

@JgoM369

2 жыл бұрын

@@nehpetsrellek2750 Religion is egotism that later manifests itself into a system of thought. Being spiritual doesn't always mean you will know God in this life.

@JgoM369

2 жыл бұрын

@@silverbull2196 I think this verse sums up this world today. Timothy 2-7 1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6For of this sort are they which creep into houses and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

@saramiranda5060

2 жыл бұрын

Don't get brainwashed by these luciferians

@ReneeKnightYogaRani

2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean mourning?

I am of the opinion that in order to truly understand spirit, transcendence, god, etc., you have to experience it for yourself.

Timothy Leary taught us how to use mind altering chemicals to connect ourselves to a consciousness of the unfathomable unknown phyisics and possibly spiritual attributes of our universe/multiverses.

The Transcendent Experience = The Psychedelic [or even as simply, a Mind Altering] Experience. I can't believe they didn't go deeper into this topic. These things are so /obviously/ connected, I am very surprised that it wasn't even brought up directly. IE: Apes most likely ate psychoactive mushrooms from time to time. Depending upon their experience, they may have passed that on to multiple generations, which could have been the crux of humanity itself! The possible "common mechanism" which was only briefly discussed, needs more attention.. To me, this was a: "Duh...Aha!" moment, once I started researching and experiencing it for myself.

@bledsoetx

2 жыл бұрын

These folks will NEVER dive into a discussion like that. It would push their "beliefs" up against a wall and they would never put their "exalted" selves in that position.

@darklightstudio

2 жыл бұрын

@@bledsoetx Sad :( Thank you for responding :)

1:00:00 There's a famous story of 3000 bees showing up at the bee-keepers funeral.

@MajorPayne175

2 жыл бұрын

Provide a source.

@jahlesexo

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@andriesscheper2022

2 жыл бұрын

When we berried our mother there was a rabbit In the grave, complete with rabbit hole. She loved animals... also well prepared.

Four huge subjects of research not included in this particular discussion are :EVP, EMP, ITC, NDE.

"They can't all be right", but they can all be wrong. Re the final question, I think they'd say " Yeah, we went through that phase, but we grew out of it".

Funny how the brain of an individual is talking about the brain itself...like the brain is thinking how it works lololol

@supersila2101

4 жыл бұрын

Brainseption

@andalusiaverroes365

4 жыл бұрын

Consciousness

@2Worlds_and_InBetween

4 жыл бұрын

the cartisan (spelling? ) theatre

@owlredshift

3 жыл бұрын

JM FA olllllllllllllllllllllololloololloololololollllllllllllllololololololololololololololololol lafing out loud ----> (lol) ololloolol

@Shahad-ym3gl

3 жыл бұрын

Bro.. You making me high

Pinker is a great speaker, he is very articulate.

@willmpet

4 жыл бұрын

I agree! I think that Pinker is very important and expresses himself well. He has done a great deal I'd research.

"We All Have the Common Ground We All Have Called "Relation(s)"

This was a good interview with quality questions for Paul Wallis and for the Eden series. Well done! Greg Pasden The American Expat in The Philippines

Great conversation