As Beatles' fans it's so great to have guys like these to provide so many resources.

@vbassone

15 сағат бұрын

YES! Cheers to John Heaton! Thanks John!

Thank you, John. I really enjoyed this. I had what was quite literally a "nodding acquaintance" with Lennon in late '78 through to his death. I had a girlfriend at that time who lived right down the street from the Dakota, so even though I was living in the Hudson Valley I was in the neighborhood a great deal. And I passed Lennon walking one way and me the other way ALL THE TIME. And we got into a rhythm where he knew my face and of course I knew his face. I would always throw him a military salute, and he'd always smile and throw one back. It never went further. I never hassled him, so I supposed he liked that. I'd grown up around a couple of other famous people (one of whom, actually, was an idol of Lennon's), so knew what that deal was. But from a distance, he always struck me as a damned nice guy. Anyway, thank you for this. All the best, - Ed Renehan PS: Meanwhile, the former wife of one of my old High School chums is married to Paul. Is it a small world? I think so.

@fabreezethefaintinggoat5484

2 жыл бұрын

Otto from Otto and George had a similar thing

@JonahNelson7

Жыл бұрын

Yeah most famous people are happy to get acknowledged because that's such a mutual thing but not happy to get stopped ya know? I've never run into a famous person but I've vowed to say nothing more than something like "love your stuff" and that's it

@judyakajude3370

Жыл бұрын

What a cool 😎 story to see Lennon on the street. It was Yoko who convinced John it was "safe" to live in NY City. As for Paul's current wife; that's Nancy.

@badczech8485

Жыл бұрын

@@judyakajude3370 Well... according to the song, "... her name was McGill, and she called herself 'Lil', but everyone knew her as 'Nancy'!" 👀 😖 😁 Sorry... simply couldn't resist! 😜 Rock on!!! 👍✌️

@IwasInThe60s

Жыл бұрын

I have also encountered famous people on some occasions, but not a particular celebrity on a regular basis, That must have been awesome. It is awfully hard to contain oneself... not to make a nuisance of yourself. I remember being in a restaurant in London during the early 1990s and a few tables away were Bruce Willis and Demi Moore, with friends. I told myself: "you are not going to stare at them, you are NOT going to stare at them". And then one of the friends at our table would ask me: "What do you think?". And then I would realize I was so focused at looking at Bruce and Demi out of the corner of my eye that I lost track of the conversation at our own table.🤣

George and Paul must have been fairly close during George's last years, given that Paul found George a place to breathe his last without reporters knowing it.

@magalicomte5078

2 жыл бұрын

It was Paul's house in LA, wasn't it ?

@mikenorton632

Жыл бұрын

Paul was friends with George before he suggested he join the Beatles

They shared such an intense experience being in the Beatles. They became like a family. They certainly shared much of the resources. Ringo became quite rich even though he didn’t write many songs. It seems to me that it was important for McCartney that he get on with them, especially as they got older. Paul gave a wonderful speech for Ringo at the Rock and Roll HOF

Very good video John. You're one of the few I can count on to give insightful accounts of the solo Beatles meetings and recordings. Keep it up!

Two important omissions: John and Paul jamming in the studio in April '74, as heard on the 'A Toot and a Snore' bootleg. And of course Eric Clapton's wedding, Jan' 1979, with Paul, George and Ringo appearing on stage together at the reception.

@lucyfoster4082

2 жыл бұрын

Who was Eric marrying that time?

@lucyfoster4082

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, Pattie. How weird for George.

@plasteredbastard

2 жыл бұрын

Know this is about them sharing an audience with each other but Paul also showed up in disguise to a Harrison show on the Dark Horse tour in '74. He was so modest about not wanting to take any of the attention away from George's showcase. Lovely sentiment and though there was friction through it all nothing but love and admiration.

@EnlightenedRogue

2 жыл бұрын

When George, Paul & Ringo convened at Clapton’s home in 1979, this was huge news to us 7th graders. Clapton got married in Arizona but had a big reception back at Hurtwood Edge a week later. A who’s who of rock royalty attended yet Lennon either wasn’t invited or was but didn’t want to be pulled away from domestic life.

@finch45lear

Жыл бұрын

The photo with Kieth Moon was taken during the toot and a snore era.

One would have to say that 1974 was the year when John and Paul had the friendliest relationship post Beatles. It was pretty much a full year of good natured get togethers be it in LA or NYC. It almost of course extended into 1975 in New Orleans as a true post split musical collaboration (I don’t count the LA jam session of 1974 as anything more than some studio partying with the record button on).

@karenboromeo5752

3 жыл бұрын

Well from Pauls mouth the last yr or two before John died...the two were at their closest.

@drummer78

3 жыл бұрын

@@karenboromeo5752 That might be true but they never saw each other during that time you refer to. However, in 1974, they both hung out together socially at the Santa Monica home Lennon and May Pang were staying at, they jammed together in the studio and also saw each other socially in NYC at the East Side apartment John and May shared.

@profile2047

2 жыл бұрын

@@drummer78 However Paul has stated that he went there at the request of Yoko as a messenger. So while close physically (and maybe more so do to hundreds of other details) I’d still trust what Paul McCartney said about them being closest at the end. Cause why not trust 1 of the 2 people involved in the relationship.

Thank you for your input. You can’t begin to imagine how much I appreciate this video.

I read an interview with George in Rolling Stone when he was promoting Cloud 9. The interviewer asked George how he was getting along with Paul and Ringo. George told him "fine" and in fact he was having dinner with both them after the interview was over.

@hauntboy

2 жыл бұрын

Check out the interview on here of George & Ringo on "Aspel" around this time. George states that the 3 of them had dinner together a week earlier and whatever the press wanted to print, Paul's his mate and always will be.

@hauntboy

2 жыл бұрын

Here it is buddy. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fIWV08WFgKSvj9Y.html

Excellent video John! Have always wondered about this topic. Already looking forward to the next video.

I really enjoyed this. Thanks for doing all the research. Some of it I know, but much of it I didn’t know. Great video John.

I am amazed by your knowledge! Love your channel! Thank u very much!

Nice effort, thanks! There are some omissions and inaccuracies: -John and Paul met in NY in late 1970 agreeing to stop "slagging each other off" in the press. -John and Paul jammed in 1974 in Los Angeles. -Ringo was NOT present at the signing of the dissolution papers in NY in Dec 1974. He had already signed his copies in London. It was just George and Paul, and yes, John was a no-show famously sending a balloon. -Peter Dogget's book 'You Never Give Me Your Money" says that the Lennons and McCartneys chatted when their two cabs happened to pull up next to on another randomly in NY. He also states that John would sometimes show up to Apple meetings in NY, once to ask for an advance, with McCartney being present. -George, Paul and Ringo coincided at Eric Clapton's wedding in 1979. -James McCartney states he remembers being held by John as a toddler. Now, whether this is true or not, it would place the McCartneys at the Dakota sometime in 1979 or even 1980. This certainly seems like a stretch, but it's entirely possible that 1976 was not the last time John and Paul saw each other, as previously thought.

John, great job as always- really appreciate your videos!

Correction: Super Bear Studio near Nice (not Sugar Bear!). Books referenced: Keith Badman: 'The Beatles After The Break Up' (1999) & 'The Dream Is Over' (2001); 'The John Lennon Letters' (edited by Hunter Davis, 2013 Paperback); Fred Seaman 'Living On Borrowed Time' (1991)

Excellent job bringing all that information together. Thank you!

Thank you for compiling this! Currently working on a graphic novel that deals with these encounters, well done.

Mr. Heaton this was a pleasure to watch for me, nice work and good job!

brilliant - love these posts

Thanks for the video John. There is a TV interview with John and Yoko around the time of the imagine album, where members of the audience are questioning John about "How do you sleep" - you can see it on youtube. John replies that he and Paul are getting on, and "in fact I had dinner with him just the other night"... he also called Paul "his best friend". This seems to be before the dinner you mentioned at New Year '72, or it could be the same one. Personally I feel he said "best friend" for publicity reasons - I am not sure Paul was his best friend at that stage.

Paul had said interviews that he had seen John about six weeks before he died. John also stated in his final interviews that he’d seen both Paul and Ringo recently. He hadn’t seen George, but was hoping to see him soon. George Martin stated that he had seen John recently before he died when asked about John’s death.

@johnheaton5667

3 жыл бұрын

which paul interview? not seen that...i think they spoke over the phone rather than met in 1980....also which john interview? paul was on US breakfast tv mid nov 1980 and was asked about a remark john had made about him...it was pretty clear that they had not met recently

@clark82

5 ай бұрын

James McCartney has said in interviews that he has memories as a child of being in the Dakota and sitting on John’s lap….. and given he was born in 1977, that would make him 3 at the time if 1980…. But I suspect it’s more likely Paul visited Yoko and Sean in 81-82, and James is probably recalling Sam Havadtoy, given Yoko had him dress in Johns clothes and cut his hair like him

Clears up a lot of questions I had. Everyone wanted them to at least get along if not reunite but life is complex, especially if you are a Beatle.

Excellent video John, it's also a favourite subject of mine. I reckon there's a great book in there somewhere with Keith's name on it... Cheers

Wonderful presentation work documentation. As an aside, I wonder why Paul served as a conduit between John and Yoko in 1974, advising John that Yoko was "ready" to have him back.

@sav0618

Жыл бұрын

Yoko flew to London to ask Paul to talk to John. Paul, being Paul, did. Paul’s heart, kindness is really underestimated!

I have played in many bands over the years and i will tell you while none of these bands were on the The Beatles level that being in a band is like a family you do not get along all the time sometimes you cannot stand each other but you still love one another.

@dondamon4669

3 жыл бұрын

What you don’t reckon you were on there level no? Thanks for letting us know dude

It makes sense Julian would be so perceptive of Paul's music. After all Paul wrote Hey Jude for him and that is one of the most popular songs ever. And the fact Paul went to him and Cynthia to console them just shows he had a special place in his heart for him which I am sure is reciprocated.

Thanks John. I think you may have missed one. May 79 Eric and Patties wedding at Erics house Hurtwood Edge in Surrey . Along with a host of other musicians like Jack Bruce , Paul , George and Ringo were there . John phoned Eric and said if he had known in advance he would have come so it could have been a full reunion. Also there was a big jam in a marque in the garden where lots joined in , not sure whether Paul , George and Ringo played together. I think one of the saddest is the lack of a relationship after the split between Paul and George . George with a lot of justification resented Pauls attitude to him when they had been in the Beatles and I dont think they hung out much. Thats why I love the video for Real Love as there is a moment in the studio near the end where Paul hugs George which is quite moving.

@richardordidge4945

3 жыл бұрын

Dennis Osborne by all accounts Paul, George and Ringo did play together, along with other musicians, at Eric’s wedding but the quality of the performance was not said to be great and there is relief that it was never recorded!

@dennisosborne4368

3 жыл бұрын

@Pablo L. I know the clip you mean , they are on the lawn at Friar Park and talking about India in 1968 and Paul says "remember that time we went to the cinema or something" and as you say George ignores him. George was complicated . There is also the anthology scene where the three of them play , Blue Moon of Kentucky and other tunes and Paul looks like he is loving it and George as if he is tolerating it . I read that he lost a lot of money in the film business and therefore needed Anthology money so it makes you wonder if he would have been so co-operative otherwise. I think George looked at how other musicians like Clapton , Dyan , Delaney and Bonney treated him as an equal and contrasted that with Pauls sometimes bossy treatment in the Beatles.

@clark82

3 жыл бұрын

Dennis Osborne George was always pretty careless when it came to money, and lost a lot on handmade films throughout the 1980’s (for every “hit” it had, there was 3/4 flops), plus his estate cost a crazy amount of money each year to upkeep (read reports of up to £800k a year).....apparently that’s why he did the Japan tour in 91, as it was easy money for a not a lot of effort (Eric did all the production, and a case of George showed up with his guitar on the day and just played the songs.... hence (as live albums go) the 91 songs are a little to polished and no real effort being put in by George) but then the Anthology came along and that basically made him and his family set for life

@jamesbyersmusic

3 жыл бұрын

Various accounts have them playing 'Get Back' and 'Sgt. Pepper' at the wedding jam!

@varsityathlete9927

3 жыл бұрын

@@clark82 that is pretty much the film industry, very expensive, and you have to take many flops and hope for a mega hit to cover the costs. its also why the film industry has got so dire in modern times with these mega budget films but artistically fairly boring, marvel etc (my opinion on those movies of course). other problem for george is for the beatles the huge royalties are for song publishing not recording, and the vast majority are lennon/mccartney. makes a huge difference when someone buys an album, 1 harrison song and 10 lennon/mccartney. same with covers, majority are lennon/mccartney. just comes down to that cheque in the post, one has more zeros and it wasn't his. this is one of the major reasons bands split up, song writing money. see a band like U2, all song publishing is equally split as an example.

Hello John. My name is Gilvan Moura and I’ve got my own KZread Beatles thing here in Brazil. It’s in Portuguese and I’m very happy that I’ve got 30k followers and spread the Beatles music and history here. I have a huge collection of books as well but I can see some of yours that I haven’t gotten them yet. Most of mine I bought in England on my vacation. Anyway I just want to let you know that I really appreciate your videos and you’re a great inspiration . Cheers mate!

Another great video.

Hi, John. Great topic for a video. Just one addition on the signing of the dissolution papers in 1974 - Ringo was not present. I can't recall the reason, but Ringo stayed in England and signed the papers ahead of the others. I believe they had him on the phone to keep him in the loop in case any last minute issues came up, but only the other three had planned to be physcially present for the signing party, with John opting out at the last minute.

@SuperGogetem

3 жыл бұрын

I think its in Goldman's book that Ringo was ducking a subpoena from Klein at the time.

They really had such a rare thing going. They spent years starting out where they lived together in small rooms and played mostly covers for beer money. To go from that to being about the most famous people on earth is something so few share including rock bands. Granted the break up was inevitable being they could all write great as well as sing and play it probably would have went much smoother if not for Klein. However I don't think they would have reformed the Beatles again. Perhaps just worked together more on occasion but that ship sailed and leaving us with Let It Be and Abbey Road was a good way to end it. I used to live in NYC and would go to the Strawberry Fields area of Central Park which is right by the Dakota on anniversaries and there were always so many people there, many crying. NYC loved their Lennon. I was in NYC when it was announced he was killed and everyone was mourning in the streets. We took it really hard.

John would have been 80 yesterday. His younger son Sean turned 45.

@yellyman5483

3 жыл бұрын

How old is Johns eldest son Julian?

@Nighthawkrun

3 жыл бұрын

@@yellyman5483 Should be 55 or 56

@davidbowman4259

3 жыл бұрын

@@yellyman5483 I think he's 57.

This I find very interesting. More meetings took place than are documented, I think.

@johnt7630

3 жыл бұрын

@Loungejay, I'm not so sure. Certainly with Lennon living on the other side of the pond, there would have been less occasions to meet up. But, there probably were many phone calls as friends and also as business partners to the Beatles' Apple company.

One of my favorites on film,in the movie Imagine, is when John and George were together eating breakfast and John refers to "Beatle Ed" (Paul),and winks knowingly/comedically at the camera lol!

@johnt7630

3 жыл бұрын

@Bubba Still, that was just after the split when they were recording Lennon's anti--Paul song How Do You Sleep? Lennon was replying to songs Paul had written about him. Don't know why George got involved. Anyway it was beneath all three of them.

@bubbastill2040

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnt7630 And I know all of them eventually realized it.I love them all,don't really have a favorite,but I was strongly influenced to start my own spiritual search by George (and his music) when I was a teenager.I love the quote attributed to him, "All else in life can wait.The search for God cannot."

@johnt7630

3 жыл бұрын

@@bubbastill2040 yes, we can be too attached to this world. You can find real meaning to life through seeking God.

@glenngibbs1267

3 жыл бұрын

Actually it's Ringo not Paul

@chezzer58

3 жыл бұрын

@@glenngibbs1267 Beatle Ed was Paul.

just found a new favorite channel...

There is photos from around 77/78 of John and Yoko with Ringo on a night out in some vip club in New York that entrance is only through processing a key that a select few have. There is also photos of Linda and Paul with Ringo walking around New York around 78/79ish, so imagine John would have been in close contact with at least one of them.... you also have the snoot and a toot sessions in LA with Paul and John (with Ringo suppose to have said “Paul has been here” the next day when he sat down at his drums and spotted they had been set up differently)

In 1977 I saw Paul and Ringo together on Friday and then Ringo together with John the following Monday. I have photos from that Friday. Paul and Linda accidentally ran into Ringo and Nancy on 5th ave and then went to lunch at The Plaza. Paul and Linda both signed my 1st edition of Linda's Pictures. After George's 2 shows in one day at MSG, I went to The Plaza as someone told me George was staying there. A limo pulled up in front of where I was standing. John stepped out, took my hand and said Happy Christmas. 2 stories of 3 meetings of 2 Beatles that I can promise happened. I have many more

In Monty Python's Almost the Truth, released in 2009, André Jacquemin mentions John and Yoko being present at one of the Python shows in September 1980.

John’s death colors all of these reminisces. I can’t stop feeling robbed.

@davecostello560

3 жыл бұрын

I watched the New York Years documentary this weekend. It left me feeling so robbed of Lennon, in a way I haven't felt for many years. He was so happy and renewed come the Double Fantasy sessions. Who knows what the eighties could have brought?! Sad doesn't describe it.

@DJ-bj8ku

3 жыл бұрын

Dave Costello I remember when Double Fantasy came out and I, too, was so looking forward to his comeback. Everything he sang about hit me so personally and I had so looked forward to growing old with him.

@AnthonyMonaghan

3 жыл бұрын

Robbed of what?

@DJ-bj8ku

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyMonaghan Guess

@davecostello560

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyMonaghan robbed of the possibility of another 40 years of Lennon being in our worlds - all the music, warmth and wit, sharp intelligence and political comment...the husband and father for Yoko, Sean and Julian...the bandmate for Paul, George and Ringo...the reunion that may have happened...

Thanks for the research!

Great, thank you!

thnx again John

Very interesting video John enjoyed it just for your info found a demo of the Beatles doing Paul s backseat of the car which from the get back sessions quite interesting has you know Paul would later put the song out couple of. Years later interesting that it could been a beatle number

@anthonygreen7063

3 жыл бұрын

Quite a few like that, at least four that ended up in George's debut album, including the title track, John's Gimme Some Truth and Jealous Guy (then called Child of Nature), Paul's Junk, Teddy Boy, Another Day and Every Night.

Thank you for sharing ☺️

Cook of the House and Cookin in thr Kitchen of Love both from 1976. This is a connection.

Great topic John...

Such a well informed and researched video again John. I was thinking to myself earlier had Lennon lived to see 80 what he would've thought of the internet. I can imagine him been vocal on Twitter advocating for political and social issues unlike Ringo or Paul who don't actively use social media as other musicans tend to do; and with all that's going on at the minute Black Lives Matter/ Police Brutality/ Mass shootings in America etc it's safe to assume he would've been behind these movements and vocal in his beliefs. It'd also be interesting to see how he would/wouldn't have defended himself for his past actions especially how he treated women in his younger days. It seems by the end of his life, especially in the rolling stone interview, he seemed at peace with himself somewhat, but had he lived who knows what the public's view on him would have been like. Long winded, but again, great video!

@kennymilne6817

3 жыл бұрын

@Pablo L. I think he would as they are highlighting the racism and brutality against minorities. John was certainly an anti fascist. Paul has recently spoken of his backing of BLM and when the Beatles refused to play to segregated audiences. What John would have hated was the legal carrying of guns, Trump and far right militias.

@kennymilne6817

3 жыл бұрын

@Pablo L. Agree with you on the violence and destruction comments. He would have without doubt backed their aims and beliefs though.

@brainofthefrain

3 жыл бұрын

@@kennymilne6817 Aside from politics though I think 80s Lennon musically would've been an interesting time. He likely would have done a lot more stuff with Bowie, probably toured extensively as well and made use of that stereotypically 80s sound, synths etc. He would probably have rocked the mullet as well 😂😂

@beatlz6561

3 жыл бұрын

@@kennymilne6817 If John was anti fascist then he wouldn't approve of the left today. It's the left that uses violence and suppresses speech claiming to be fighting for someone's rights. They are socialists and communists who want nothing more than destruction to gain power for themselves. Minorities are simply tools/pawns to be used then disgarded. What has the left done for minorities? Put them on welfare, destroyed families and kept them poverty.

@kennymilne6817

3 жыл бұрын

@@beatlz6561 He certainly approved in the 70s. Didn't he take part on marches with "outlawed" group?. Didn't right wing militias try to overthrow a democratically elected official in Michigan using army tactics? Isn't the most recent report show that white supremacists are the biggest threat to national security? Don't kid yourself here, Lennon was a working class socialist.

The picture in Fred Seaman’s book is most certainly from John and Ringo’s 1979 meeting. I can tell by John’s hair/look.

@waynej2608

3 жыл бұрын

It's a great shot, even though Ringo looks rather rough, from too much booze.

@marcyfan-tz4wj

3 ай бұрын

@@waynej2608 i'd never seen it before and of course john's photo is the one that matters.

An excellent video, thank you! As I recall, Ringo was not able to be at the 1974 NYC meeting to sign the papers dissolving the band, so he signed them the week before (I believe in London). And part of me always wonders if John didn't show up because some small part of him actually didn't want the Beatles to truly be over.

@joemasse4568

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve always had that feeling,

@thermionic1234567

3 жыл бұрын

I think he couldn’t leave the US because of his immigration status.

@genepopa6905

3 жыл бұрын

@@thermionic1234567 That's correct Jeffrey, which is why George and Paul came to New York City for the signing, because John couldn't come to the UK at that time.

There’s know getting away from the fact that all four loved each other like brothers and always missed each other’s company

What a wonderful, intriguing topic

What a wealth of information. However, I believe I read that Paul and John had actually been watching a rerun of that "Saturday Night Live" episode in 1976, and that if they had gone down to the studio that night they would have found it empty.

Jack Douglas said John and Paul planned to play on Ringos album in January 1981. He also said if George had found out he would have joined despite falling out with John over his autobiography

Brilliant roundup

During the 1974 meeting, John and Paul jammed together in the studio per the Toot and A Snore bootleg. This is important for being the last time their voices were recorded together. Also, I remember reading an article with the owner of the Tavern On The Green restaurant talking about how John, Yoko, Paul, and Linda showed up for lunch. Not sure when that would have been....

@waynej2608

3 жыл бұрын

It would have to be 1976.

@billdufour1630

3 жыл бұрын

@@waynej2608 Probably. I remember the story being that no one liked what was on the menu that day so they ordered a pizza. Someone asked the owner if they were insulted and she said, "Are you kidding? They can order anything they like."...

@waynej2608

3 жыл бұрын

@@billdufour1630 Ha! Yeah, I remember hearing something like that, too. And one can't go wrong with NY pizza. Having it with John and Paul, would be the only thing to top that.

@timgallegos8455

2 жыл бұрын

1975 and 76 which is the last they went eachother

Great video. I'm not sure if this has been pointed out but George was in Ringo's Ognir Rrats TV special in 1978.

@Mandrake591

3 жыл бұрын

That tv special was an embarrassing thing indeed, even seeing it as a kid!

All very interesting facts, thank you very much. Can you list all the books and authors you mentioned, please? I certainly hope to purchase all of them. Again, thanks for this information. Patti Romano

John on the internet may be doing his drawings on a iPad rather then pen and paper the occasional zoom call George playing music with friends via zoom well that’s what I would like to think so 🌹🌹

DJ Richard Skinner said Paul rang him on the morning of John's death. Saying him & John had planned to go in the studio in January. Paul has never said this in public.

@walks.akadannystylusjnr.9346

3 жыл бұрын

because it probably isn't true :-)

@adamcollins915

3 жыл бұрын

@@walks.akadannystylusjnr.9346 Why would Richard Skinner lie. On tape?

@walks.akadannystylusjnr.9346

3 жыл бұрын

@@adamcollins915 Not lying just misinformed

@karenboromeo5752

3 жыл бұрын

If this was true l can gurantee that Paul would have told the whole world.

@adamcollins915

3 жыл бұрын

@@karenboromeo5752 Does seem strange that Paul would ring up Richard Skinner & just give him this interesting info. But Skinner is on tape saying this.

What l like about the Beatles Anthology is its the Truth. Lots of rumours and suggestive ideas in the comments. The reason The 3 remaining Beatles did it...with approval of Yoko..so to put as much as Johns past interviews etc..as possible. Want the Truth..read the Anthology book. Has loads more in it than the videos. How many own one? Mines on my bookcase.

In John's interview with Bob Harris from 1975 John says that him and Paul recently played together in (I think) a studio in Los Angeles.

@johnheaton5667

3 жыл бұрын

that LA studio jam was in 74

@callithowiseeit5806

3 жыл бұрын

Toot and a Snore 74

During the Wings over America tour 76 pretty sure that Ringo went to a concert and backstage after plus shortly after the period you are talking about in 81 all three played on George,s All Those Years Ago and I think may have met up at Georges studio in Friar Park.

Howard Cosell the American TV sports reporter asked John Lennon "Will the Beatles ever record together again?" John's answer": "Well, You never know, Howard." John Lennon sounded very positive about the Beatles. So, if Lennon had lived, I bet they would've recorded together again. Those clips are on KZread for all to see.

@powerpopaholic876

2 жыл бұрын

I that’s John’s way of saying, no comment “, and “it’s not on the radar”

15 Dec 1974 John attended Georges show at Nassau Coliseum Long Island and afterwards had dinner with George at the Plaza Hotel.19 Dec 74 Paul and George signed the Beatles dissolution papers in New York , Ringo signed in London. John , as you say , didnt show up. He had agreed to join George on stage that night at Madison Square Garden but George was so irate he told May Pang to not bother . The film of Georges tour was being shot and there is footage of George shouting but will probably never be shown. G&P were allegedly not talking at the time and a brief clip in Living in the Material World shows Paul looking awkward and not even acknowledging George. Also as previously said Paul, George and Ringo were all at the wedding of Eric and Pattie in May 79 and jammed in a marque.

John wrote "Cookin' (In the kitchen of Love) for Ringo's 1976 album Rotogravure and also played Piano on the track, his only studio work between "Rock and Roll" and "Double Fantasy"

If John and Yoko did not fly to LA to see George at the Monty Python screening, then whatever was the last time they met up was the last time because George said in an interview that it had been a year or two before he had seen John last. If J&Y flew out to LA weeks before his death, I think George would've remembered that.

thanks John

For the life of me, I’m convinced Paul provides the background vocals on George’s song “Blow Away”.

Thank you its all been said friend

Well done!

Great work. Is the complete list of yours available somewhere ?

Thanks John......🍁

October 1971...Ricky Nelson's "Garden Party". Yoko brought her Walrus and Mr. Hughes (Harrison) who hid in Dylan's shoes. Magic in the air.

@Oppeldeldoc1

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure I'm not the only one, but I always thought that was a Howard Hughes joke, considering that " wearing his disguise" part. But I guess we were wrong.

@catnc1

3 жыл бұрын

That was Ricky Nelson taking poetic license: Yoko and John were expected at that "Garden Party", but didn't go.

About the supposed time Lennon and Ono saw Monty Python in 1980, I know that in the Netflix documentary on Monty Python, they also say definitively that John and Yoko saw them in concert. I also heard that while John and George were together George gave him a cassette of the early version of Somewhere in England. Also why no mention of Ringo coming to the Imagine sessions and famously criticizing How Do You Sleep?

@hannahg8439

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's 100% certain that Ringo did actually criticize HDYS.

@johnheaton5667

3 жыл бұрын

@@hannahg8439 Well....that meeting if it happened was never mentioned by George or Derek...no photos...so I'm dubious. Did any of the Pythons mention that?

@buxeessingh2571

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnheaton5667 I remember reading it in a history of Monty Python. They were taking a break from mixing Double Fantasy.

@BadfingerBoogieBarb

2 жыл бұрын

Ringo never came to the Imagine sessions. He was off filming a movie (Blindman, I believe). That’s why Ringo isn’t playing on the album.

Great video topic. But you did forget a big one: Paul, George & Ringo were together (and the rumor is that they actually played together) at Eric Clapton and Patti Boyd's wedding in 1979. There are photos of the three at the event.

@johnheaton5667

3 жыл бұрын

yes i realised i’d forgotten that...not sure how! covered it in my latest video!

Good video. It could be useful if you put in the box under the video the names of the books you were using.

@johnheaton5667

3 жыл бұрын

Done!

Loved the video! Just wanted to add a correction that John signed the papers at Disney World not Disneyland. At the Polynesian Hotel.

Oh, and don't forget about Eric Clapton and Pattie Boyd's wedding reception in May of 1979, where George, Paul and Ringo got on stage with Eric and other musical guests and jammed on a few songs (including, interestingly enough, "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"). Hearing about it afterward, John (who I guess either wasn't invited, or else had declined to go) said he wished he had been there, and that he'd have loved to have played with them again.

@wangdangdoodie

3 жыл бұрын

Lennon's invite arrived late, and by that time the wedding had taken place.

@waynej2608

3 жыл бұрын

@@wangdangdoodie I know. This always pisses me off! That would've been the last time all four could've been together.

@AnthonyMonaghan

3 жыл бұрын

Yoko didn't allow him to go...Mother knows best.

@karenboromeo5752

3 жыл бұрын

John didn't want to go.

Out of all the Beatles, Paul and George had the worst relationship after the breakup. The hardly spoke for years. I think it was the Anthology that brought them together again as friends, and after that they were friends for the rest of Georges life. John and Paul were on and off, but they spoke on the phone when Yoko allowed it, and Paul and Ringo were always friends. Ringo played on "Tug of war" "Give my regards to broad st" and vice versa, and they are extremely close now.

@yellyman5483

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-oh7iv3ij5x They were on good terms during the making of Anthology.

@Saturn-sd8ht

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-oh7iv3ij5x I read George only agreed to do the Anthology because he needed the money at the time. I agree he looks uncomfortable in the scenes where they are together. At one point he totally ignores Paul. He also ruined Free as a Bird imo with slide guitar which was his solo sound; not The Beatles. And he sang a line in the song Wilbury style with his buddy Jeff Lynne producing. Then he vetoed a third reunion song Now and Then.

@kelvendyson1508

3 жыл бұрын

There was still some tension between George towards Paul during Anthology. When they were sitting at a table talking the "old days" Paul asked George, " do you remember going to the cinema", George totally ignored him. Paul said, "I guess not". It just seemed like being together just reminds them, especially I think for George and Ringo that John is gone and they wished he were there.

@dalenelson8254

Жыл бұрын

@@Saturn-sd8ht Of the two new Beatles songs for Anthology, honestly my favorite few seconds is George's wonderful intro to Free as a Bird. Just my taste.-

The 'John calls Paul from Bermuda in 1980' KZread video is funny. And probably accurate!

Did you ever meet any of the former Beatles? What were they like if you did?

John, do you know if the Keith Badman books are still in print? I'd love to pick up a copy. Also, didn't George , Paul and Ringo all go to Clapton's wedding to Patti in 1979?

@pup41261

3 жыл бұрын

They did...and John had been invited also, and the only reason he didn't is because he never got the invite. This is all documented in Eric Clapton's autobiography.

@anthonygreen7063

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. The other omission is John and Paul jamming in the studio in LA, April 1974, the only time they played together in public post-Beatles.

Very good

Will you cover the topic of multiple individuals per Beatle?

Ringo stayed away from the Plaza signing as he was wary of Klein serving him with a writ, as he had been trying to do with George whilst on his Dark Horse tour. Instead, Ringo signed in London and those documents were then flown across the Atlantic to the Plaza, where Paul and George added their signatures. John eventually signed his in Disneyland, suffering from last minute jitters as he was paranoid about the tax implications of finally disolving the partnership. Paul had phoned him and convinced him it would be OK, allaying his fears ❤

Well reserched again John but in my opinion the fabs met up a lot more in secret that was ever published & whether Paul or Ringo will ever say when none of us will ever know the whole truth.....

Is there an “origin” story of your journey of music? I apologize if that’s been covered. I have been watching for some time as this time is also dear to me. Love these guys.

Bobby Whitlock has said that during the ATMP sessions John and Yoko came into the studio one day I'm pretty sure. It may have been in one of the videos on his excellent youtube channel (Bobby Whitlock & CoCo Carmel)

@dreamfable

3 жыл бұрын

In the Martin Scorsese documentary 'George Harrison: Living in the Material World,' there is a full-screen pan of a 1970 photograph from Abbey Road Studios taken during the recording of 'All Things Must Pass.' John Lennon, relaxed and double-jointed as usual, is shown with George Harrison, Ringo Starr, Billy Preston and guest steel guitarist Pete Drake of Nashville. Drake attracted lots of curiosity from the British musicians, when he turned the steel guitar into a rock instrument on that album. John used "Sneaky" Pete Klinow of the Flying Burrito Brothers three years later in New York on 'Mind Games.'

@williamkiss8517

3 жыл бұрын

@@dreamfable oh indeed, thanks for the information. Will have to watch the film again (for the nth time!) What a great addition Pete Drake was on those songs :)

I sense that it was destined for them to never meet again together in any way, shape or form. Given all the times that all four could’ve been together were met with some type of resistance, whether reluctantly or by chance. It’s a weird thing. I didn’t like Yoko telling Paul not to come, like who the hell is she to say that. If john didn’t want to see him then that’s different but it wasn’t Yoko’s place to do that. Interesting piece of history here tho, much appreciated. Thx

Can't find the date in the badman book re the 1980 LA George /JL meet up....what date? I can ask Fred if it happened. Danny

@johnheaton5667

3 жыл бұрын

sept i think

After the recent lawsuit with Yoko and Fred Seaman, I would never use Seaman as a source. I've always had bad feelings about him, thinking he stole some of John's recordings that never made it to record.

@callithowiseeit5806

3 жыл бұрын

It's my understanding he only stole Johns diarys and tapes (on which John also recorded diary-like entries) for Lennons own written/spoken proof to back his books claims, funny that every other book's been water off Yokos back but this one tho huh?

In 1980 a reunion was a long way off. John had resurfaced with Yoko & Paul had just left Wings. As John said just before his death 'I haven't seen any of the Beatles for I don't know how long'.

@InstantKarma1970

3 жыл бұрын

John had been inspired by Coming Up record by Paul - lyrics to that and With A Little Luck have been interpreted as Paul Coaxing John back together - I Don't Wanna Face It - by John was a clear response to Paul written produced as an echo of Coming Up - the lines in Starting Over sound like John reaching out to Paul Check Out Take One on You Tube - messaging in lyrics - "My Love - Another Day" - It's time to spread our wings and fly Don't let another day go by my love - I think they were getting together in 81 - sources Richard Skinner Jack Douglas

@adamcollins915

3 жыл бұрын

@@InstantKarma1970 Yes I mentioned Richard Skinner on here a few days ago. Didn't know about Jack Douglas. Paul sent John a good luck telegram after John returned to the studio. Yoko hid it as worried John may invite Paul to the studio.

Such thick books 😮

Funny the number of times one of them talks about how there are no more hard feelings, literally having just slated the rest of them. That said, it's surpising how often they did meet up in the end. It's unusual ex-band mates to bother at all.

John, I think you've got most of that spot on. One thing I couldn't help noticing: how come you often refer to "George HARRISON", as if the first name isn't enough in this context? It's not as if it's "Paul McCartney" each or any time ... Just struck me as a bit strange the more the video went on. Some thoughts, if they're of interest ... * Keith Badman does get a few things wrong, or only half-right, in his Beatles Diary. Minor point, but no matter what he says (under August and 9 October 1970), It's Johnny's Birthday was George's gift to John, but Ringo recorded a separate piece, with Stephen Stills and others. That's mentioned in Richie Unterberger's "Unreleased Beatles" and, I think, Madinger & Easter's "Eight Arms to Hold You". Lovely reports of this 9 October meeting, by the way (description of John's delight at George's arrival, etc, because it was all caught on tape), in books like Mark Hertsgaard's "A Day in the Life". * Surprised to hear you say that there doesn't seem to have been much in the way of meet-ups between John, George and Ringo in late '70/early '71. They met pretty much every day when the case was being heard in the High Court. John told Kenny Everett in a radio interview in March that the case had really brought them closer again, and it was "90 per cent" likely that the three would record together again. Mentioned in Peter Doggett's "You Never Give Me Your Money". * Late 1971/early '72. There are a few meetings between John and George over this period, despite an element of frostiness regarding George's refusal to allow Yoko to play at Concert for Bangladesh. On the Dick Cavett Show in November, George mentions seeing John at the premiere for Raga the night before. Nicky Hopkins, in an interview with Disc & Music Echo (Dec '71), recalls George joining them around the time of the Happy Xmas session and playing a whole lot of new songs ready for his follow-up to All Things Must Pass. J, G and Bob Dylan hang out a bit while George is in New York editing the Bangladesh concert film (Doggett's "There's a Riot Going On", if I remember right), which seems to have gone on until January or February, off and on. * June '72. George and Ringo, with Ravi Shankar, attend a UNICEF presentation in NYC in recognition of their efforts for the Bangladesh refugees. Music magazines from that period have photos, loads of comments too on the shock of seeing George with short(er) hair for the first time in years. I've also read that John was with George when he saw Elvis at Madison Square Garden a few days later - I'm afraid I can't remember where, but it was one of them saying it. (Beatles Anthology book?) * December 1974. You've got most of this, of course. Just thought I'd say that, although the bust-up over John's no-show at the Plaza for the big document signing gets so much mileage in biographies and the music press, there are very moving first-hand accounts of John attending George's shows, and especially when they're socialising in private. Chris O'Dell (ex Apple, subject of "Miss O'Dell", involved in tour management for G in '74, Dylan's Rolling Thunder Review, etc) describes a nice meeting at a hotel after the Nassau Coliseum show; George, John, Olivia, May, herself and, surprisingly, Maureen Starkey are all there. That's in Chris's autobiography, "Miss O'Dell". She also describes how tour manager Barry Imhoff learns that Paul and Linda are in the audience at Madison Square Garden and, knowing their seat numbers, sends O'Dell out to ask if they want to come backstage. O'Dell knows this is a bad idea because they would have contacted George about it up front if they did. Lo and behold, P & L freak out a bit with her - the last thing they want is everyone in the seats around them finding out who they are. So, no, they don't go backstage. Thanks for that date for the meeting between John, George and Derek Taylor - that's a new on on me. George comments in his February 1979 Rolling Stone interview that he hasn't seen John for "a couple of years", so perhaps that's the time. On the other hand, his comments to Rolling Stone and other magazines in about 1987 seem to suggest he saw John more than once during the latter's "bread-baking" period. That's the way Doggett sees it too (in "Never Give Me Your Money"). I'm sure I've read that George and Olivia visited the Dakota with Dhani; George was in New York in October 1979, so perhaps that's it (Badman gets the dates wrong with his 20 October entry - George was photographed at the US Grand Prix at Watkins Glen, held over 5-7 October.) ... Gee, sorry to go on!

@samsowden

2 жыл бұрын

George could also be George Martin

Fascinating video as always, John. I wonder about the last date Paul and John met face to face. There are plenty of theories that they met after April 1976 and Paul has always appeared to be a bit vague about it when asked ('I believe the last time was 1976' etc.). In an interview in the Sunday Times in 2012, Paul’s son James (born in September 1977) commented, ‘I know John held me as a baby,’ adding: ‘Then I have memories of the Dakota, lots of white, sunlight pouring in.’ For John to have held him, the meeting must have been after September 1977. Was James confused or genuinely mis-remembering? Then, in 2017, Stella McCartney gave an interview to the Radio Times, recalling her childhood: ‘At the weekend I would be hanging out with Peter Gabriel or John Lennon and I would go back to school on Monday and not tell a living soul.’ Stella was born in September 1971, so would presumably have started school in 1975, aged four. She was still four when John and Paul supposedly last met in April 76. But this sounds like she is remembering something from when she would have been a little older. Anyway, tenuous evidence I know and children can be unreliable witnesses!

@johnheaton5667

3 жыл бұрын

thanks Rob...interesting info! btw i love that film Two Of Us about john and paul in 76...even though it takes a few liberties!

@Rob-ko4dx

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I rewatched that when I was writing my short biog of Lennon (www.thehistorypress.co.uk/publication/john-lennon-pocket-giants/9780750962339/) - pretty terrible film!

13:41 in Monty Python Almost The Truth documentary one of the producers says that John and Yoko were at one the Hollywood Bowl shows (no comment on George being there).

Great vid thanks. John wrote Sunday Bloody Sunday?

@johnheaton5667

2 жыл бұрын

with yoko yes though the U2 song is better known

@matthewcox1585

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnheaton5667 wow I never knew. I only heard 'Luck of the Irish'. Thanks for response. I really like your clear presentation style. Subscribed. Best wishes

Hi, 2 things I'd like to mention: 1) At around 6:30 into the video you say that Julian was very perceptive in observing that John & Paul's 1st solo albums were similar in that they were both???? I can't make out what you say. .Paired down??? Sorry, it's just puzzling me. 2) I have the 1st book you show at the start of the video, but have never found a definitive answer to a question I've often wondered about, which I assume it's NO. That question is: Were the 4 Beatles ever in the same place at the same time in the 70s? I believe the last time this took place was Aug, 22nd, 1969 for the band's final photo shoot at John's Tittenhurst Park. Your comment @ 10:07 suggests it was. However, I read an extract online about 15 years ago (and I can't find it now), which I think was an extract from a book by Cynthia Lennon or a book by someone else where she is quoted. She could, of course have got the date wrong, but she seemed to be saying the 4 Beatles met up at her address and it didn't go well and ended in a row and some people walking out. But she wasn't referring to it from the perspective of the 4 Beatles having met up in the seventies. I just put some words in Search and it came up. It might have been on her 31st birthday. If you do a bit of digging you may find it, because it was certainly online about 15 years ago. I'm sure it was a book, because you could scroll from page to page. I was taken to the page in question, so didn't even need to look any further for it. However, I could have found it in a Beatles related forum where the subject was being discussed and someone else had supplied the link to the page of the book in question. Maybe Julian Lennon would recall it.

@hauntboy

2 жыл бұрын

Just to correct what I said there, the meeting was not on Cynthia's birthday, but a random day when they 4 members met at Cynthia's to discuss business in what was said to be the year 1970. I know this seems unlikely in the light of John having left Cynthia, but that's what I read.

Why won’t anyone answer this for me? The photos in August ‘69 used for the Hey Jude album - last time we know for sure all four were together? Because the famous business /John leaving meeting that fall - Ringo wasn’t there?

@crazmos

3 жыл бұрын

That was the last photo shoot of the group. Then were together after that.