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Excellent and informative. I appreciate your balanced approach to the facts. For myself, as a native Utahn, I see the controversy more simply than your perspective of a clash of lifestyles. To my mind, its the same clash that has been the bane of Utah all my life. It's the clash of people who wnat ot make money for themselves to get wealthy, against those who would attempt to maintain what they see as the wealth of the world which should belong to the world at large. Personally, I stand with the latter.

@ericburton5163

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think the video is good. I hate when videos or articles make it seem like its western states vs. the big bad Federal government. No its oil, gas, and ranching companies vs. ecologists, native americans, and hikers. It's just that one group tends to have more influence of state governments (especially out west) while the other often has more influence over the Federal government.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. I tried really hard to just put the facts out there and let people come to their own conclusions. I think you make a great point about the role of money and special interests with regards to Bears Ears/Utah in general. Definitely a key piece of this!

@jlacy73

Жыл бұрын

There’s not much in Bears Ears to make a man wealthy. We in SJC want it preserved in the same way it has been for the last 150 years. We don’t want the tourism that will ultimately destroy it.

@Patrick_Ross

7 ай бұрын

Bears Ears is not a Yosemite, Grand Canyon or Yellowstone type of park and never will be. Sure tourism will pick up but not to the point where it will be overrun by hordes.

I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want this protected. It's the least we can do for native Americans.

@chuckokelley2448

Жыл бұрын

That's an easy answer it's called greed

@user-ly7np5rm5c

Жыл бұрын

These "patriots" have greed, privilege, bigotry above all else. That's a darn shame. Especially since the "patriots" are indeed the illegal aliens when it comes to who's land this is.

@jessehughes8274

10 ай бұрын

They were trying to ensure justice (and then some) for poor, underserved gas companies

I'm a native Utahan nearly 80 years old. The general culture here is very pro Big Business and all about extraction and exploitation of natural resources for the profit of a very few. Sadly, many people in Utah don't realize the pro extraction stance very rarely sends anything positive their way and ends in toxic sites and "No Trespassing" signs that will never come down. Yes, we have five large national parks but year around they are always busy to bursting. The American people need the western vistas to keep their eyes on the most important things in life.

@Patrick_Ross

7 ай бұрын

Beautifully put!

Should be required watching before taking a position on the issue. Learned a lot. Thank you.

@gtbkts

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

No problem Matt! Thanks for watching, glad you found it helpful!

Until it was proposed to become a monument, pretty much no one outside of SJC had ever heard of the Bears Ears, and that goes for the 5 tribes who reside outside the county. The notion that “we have to act now to save the Bears Ears” was a narrative made up to convince outsiders that it was being plundered at an alarming rate. None of this is true. We, the locals, want to continue to preserve this beautiful land. But designating it as a monument is not the answer. It puts it on a map for the world to see. It used to be a secret.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate your perspective, but I have to disagree. The Bears Ears area has been on lists for preservation for a long time. As I mentioned in the video, it was one of the areas originally identified for protection under the Antiquities Act given the high concentration of indigenous artifacts and ruins. Given those facts, I don't think it's accurate to say no one had heard about Bears Ears before it became a Monument.

@jlacy73

Жыл бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries Believe me. I am from here and I know what I'm talking about. Even the president of the Navajo Nation had never heard of the Bears Ears until a few years before it was made. With the exception of the Ute Mountain Utes and SOME Navajos, none of the 5 tribes live near the monument, and certainly most of their tribal members had never heard of it. That said, Cedar Mesa and Grand Gulch, which are now within the monument, were gaining some popularity among outdoor enthusiasts. But those areas were already protected as wilderness. Now the visitation has gone up at least ten-fold and there are people like you are making vlogs and blogs for the whole world to see, whereas if it was never made a monument, very few people would know that it existed.

As a Utahn native, a lot of the local people believe the best way to protect these sites is to not mention it or have it on a map, not have it as a momument/national park which would bring more and more people to it, but keep these sites off the books as much as possible. I don't know if i agree with this, but i see the point. Amother problem is there are sites all over Utah not just in bears ears that need protection so it is definitely a tricky subject. Love your channel!

First of all, thank you for your efforts to teach and increase awareness of our national parklands. I love your channel. Your information is high quality and excellently researched. I'm sure the sprits of Ansel Adams and Edgar Hewett are proud of you. Videos on some of the key figures important to the advocacy, creation, or protection of the parks might be very interesting. Canadian and Mexican National Parks would also be great topics. I think Bears Ears should have been protected a long time ago so, I support Bears Ears and the Antiquities Act. These natural lands are part of our national patrimony and once they become developed, they are forever changed and their natural state is gone forever. That said, I also believe that over-visitation is a threat to these areas. Yosemite, Zion, and Grand Canyon come to mind as well as the many other parks plagued by too many cars and people. Visitors are only one problem. Vandalism is a very serious problem in both natural areas and culturally sensitive areas that needs to be addressed with technological tools to monitor and protect these areas.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Hey Bryan, thanks so much! I sincerely appreciate all the support I get on here and it brings me so much joy to know that people are interested in learning about these issues as much as I am. Definitely want to incorporate more international park (including Canada and Mexico!) as time goes on. But yes, I agree on the visitation. It's a tricky needle to thread and something I don't envy land managers for having to figure out. Obviously, I still support preservation, while acknowledging the impacts over-visitation can have and finding balanced ways to accommodate that. Thanks again!

@jasonhernandez619

Жыл бұрын

The vandalism is definitely always a concern wherever there are unsupervised visitors. I have been on a couple of Passport in Time expeditions on National Forests, and I noticed that after collecting the data points, the artifacts themselves were reburied to keep them out of view of would-be collectors. Now, these artifacts might be things like an obsidian flake created in the process of making a tool. At the end of the day, there's always someone who decides that they "deserve" to keep for themselves something from the place that they visited, or leave their mark that they were there. In fact, this seems to be a fairly universal human thought, which needs to be addressed specifically. What wasn't clear is how reducing the size of the Monument would ensure protection of the antiquities.

Great informational video. Not too overwhelming, and it’s easy to understand. Keep up the nice work!

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad! That's pretty much my whole philosophy with this channel lol. Make complicated (and contentious) topics easy to understand and let people form their own opinions. I appreciate the support!

Thank you! You just exposed me to a degree of civility and good will that I've come to be unaccustomed to over the last several years. This was a great introduction for me, and I immensely appreciate how you gave voice to each side's point of view while owning your own opinion in the matter. Really enjoy your content.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome! Thanks for watching and glad you found it helpful!

I loved the old style of video, where you did majority of nature scenes of park instead of the more podcast style. It help understand the park more and associate the problem to a park rather than just hearing of it.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your feedback. It's always been in my long term vision for this channel to do more on-camera appearances and I thing in the long run it will help the audience relate to these issues more by adding a personal touch. Thanks for your support of the channel and I hope you'll stick around.

I just moved to San Juan county Utah and have been meaning to learn more about bears ears. Thanks so much for the informative video! You did terrific work on it!

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for watching, glad you found it helpful! I hope you enjoy that beautiful red rock country!

@12bucklemyshoes101

10 ай бұрын

Move back

These days our temporary existence is more important than preserving the world around us. I'm sure the average person sitting at home watching TV, playing on their phone, and zipping about their local city traffic grid could care less about Bears Ears. As more people disconnect from the world and move into the human designed environments (real and artificial) you'll continue to see the land ravaged and abused to maintain and build this money fueled way of life.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

I have to disagree. One of my main goals on this channel is to try and reconnect people with beautiful natural places like Bears Ears. Our connections to these places have the potential to be so powerful and meaningful and are absolutely worth protecting.

@Allen-yv3ue

3 ай бұрын

You can always exit this 'money fueled way of life' - I'm very aware how good we have it, just like Bears Ears ... nothing last for ever.

A video on the Kennedy Compromise and how it has affected Indiana Sand Dunes Natl Park and Lake Michigan would be awesome. The littoral drift being heavily influenced by the industrial structures and how the Indiana Dept of Nat Resources and National Parks Service cannot come to an agreement on how to approach the problem (since the state park is wedged in between the national park).

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

That sounds really interesting! I hadn't heard of it before, but I'm going to put it on my ideas list. Thanks!

This is very good! Have you ever been there? You should go, it's fantastic! You won't be disappointed. And, yes Bears Ears is exactly what the Antiquities Act was designed to protect. Also, a video about Ralph Cameron would be interesting. Thanks for another great video, Cameron! - Mike

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Hey Mike, thanks for watching! Yes, going to have to do a video on that Ralph Cameron dispute, definitely an interesting situation. Always appreciate the support!

This is an excellent presentation. I’m here to learn, had many questions, and you’ve exceeded both those expectations. Thanks much.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help Peter. Thanks for watching!

Great information, clearly explained. Thanks for educating! 👍

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Thanks for supporting the channel!

This videos are great keep the good work coming 👏🏽

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, appreciate the support!

Another great adventure for me!! Thanks I love seeing you on the video. Talk to you soon, Grandmommie

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Love these videos so much!

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt, glad you're enjoying them!

When the Courts supported the Antiquities Act it’s saying it’s up to Congress to amend the act, or not. Limiting it’s scope. It’s not the Court’s job to do the work of Congress. The Court is being neutral

I'm 10 seconds in and Bears Ears doesn't sound like a word anymore

I love how history provides context. Thank you.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Patrick!

Bears Ears is a truly a spectacular experience. It is more spiritual than the greatest of man made cathedrals.

Really great breakdown of both sides! Also am liking the variation added by on camera segments.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, glad you're enjoying it!!

@jasonhernandez619

Жыл бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries In your on-camera segments, I always look at your bookshelves and notice that you have a lot of the same books that I either have, once had, or have read.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonhernandez619 Great minds think alike 😁

Excellent and informative video, when I first heard about bears ears, I thought it was a case of government overreach. After watching your video, I am now I’m not so sure. I am generally in favor of increased land for conservation. We need to protect what we have, we’re not gonna grow anymore natural landscape.

@kraziecatclady

Жыл бұрын

Hawaii would like to have a word with you about growing more natural landscape. Jk sorry, I had to. To me it is more about protecting the cultural relics in the area and of course the natural beauty of the landscape. Humans have a tendency to drastically alter our environments and we need places to remain unaltered so that we can enjoy their natural beauty.

@Ex_christian

Жыл бұрын

It definitely is NOT government overreach. We need our land protected from Republicans and right wingers who destroy everything they touch! Utah wants to drill, mine, destroy everything they can, it’s disgusting. We need to keep these beautiful areas the way they are. We need to keep Utah and other states from their overreach!

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Hey Joe, I'm glad I could help! I wanted this video to just be a way to get the facts out there and let others come to their own conclusions about an incredibly important issue facing our public lands today. I appreciate you being so open and honest with your thought process and thanks for contributing to the discussion!

@WyomingTraveler

Жыл бұрын

@@kraziecatclady Understand your point😂

@WyomingTraveler

Жыл бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries Glad you appreciate my bluntness, that is me.

Artic national wildlife refuge or anwr is another very controversial protected area

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Yes, will definitely be covering that on the channel someday!

Thanks for the awesome content

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

I'm happy to do it, thanks for watching!

Well done, we are going to visit this park this month and this helps understand the background. We were in WY in June and there the population is very much in support of getting rid of government oversight. We are of the view of protection of these lands. 30 years ago we were in S. Utah and drove through areas of federal land leased to ranchers who were angry that the Federal Gov could tell them what they could do with the land, forgetting it is not their land. I can understand that people who might never have seen their land can decide what they can do to it. But it is to me much like leasing an apartment, you can do what the lease says and not more.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

I'm going myself in October. I do my best to provide context for people's visits through these videos so that we can better appreciate these stunning places. Enjoy your trip and thanks for watching!

With an annual budget of 3.1BILLION why are we having to pay entry fees? Its disgusting. All american citizens should be allowed to enter without fee. Our taxes pay for it. Billions? This is outrageous!

Well done. Thanks

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Robert!

Bear's Ear's and the Bee's Knee's. Or Bears Ears, Bees Knees; Or Bears Ear's, Bees Knee's; Or Bear's Ears, Bee's Knees; Or Bears Ear's, Bee's Knees; Or Bear's Ears, Bees Knee's, Or Bears Ear's, Bees' Knees; It is oddly funny how each of those lines sounds the same, yet they have a slightly different meaning of possession based on where the apostrophe is placed.

Good video, i would move the camera up so that your head is more centre of the frame.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

What's that metro transit style map of the US in the background?

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

That's a hypothetical transit map of US National Parks. Got it here: www.etsy.com/listing/1049899918/national-park-subway-map-art-print?click_key=45b0ed7a9c69b8f7ab4a909480183613c4f8a8f9%3A1049899918&click_sum=87644ef1&rec_type=ss&ref=landingpage_similar_listing_top-1&frs=1

Thanks for the video! This makes me very glad that I signed the petition when it came to my college in 2016, I didn't really understand what they were saying but I went with my gut and it was definitely right.

@NationalParkDiaries

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching, and glad you signed!

Very interesting. It's hard to see how removing monument status would improve protection of the land. It's no permian basin for oil, and it's dry as a bone and poor ranching land. I don't see what economic losses the Utah politicians are talking about. Did the state of Utah make Bear's Ears into a state preservation area or state park or anything like that?

Great video! I’ve been doing research on Bears Ears and San Juan County for my job, and this video helped explain things a lot more clearly! Also, forgive my random side note, but as someone whose family helped found Escalante and has lived there for decades, I cringe at your pronunciation, like most locals do haha. Escalante is pronounced Es-kah-LAN-tee, like vigilante. Many locals even call it Es-kuh-lant. Zion is pronounced Zi-inn not Zi-onn. I mean no offense, just wanted to point it out 😊

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Bayli, glad I could help!

@southwesthardypalms

10 ай бұрын

I’m a Utah native, but refuse to use the white pioneer pronunciation of Spanish words. It is actually pronounced “es-ka-lahn-tay”, after the Spanish explorer. But colonizers found the town name that *already existed* too hard to say apparently. You said it perfectly fine, and anybody who speaks Spanish will agree.

Yes do a video on Ralph Cameron.

@NationalParkDiaries

4 ай бұрын

Noted!

Nice video

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Kevin, much appreciated!

These lands were already protected as nearly of this land was managed and protected by the BLM and other public land agencies. The archeological sites are already protected under the antiquities act. Looting and vandalism is already not allowed. I support preserving land, and I worry that promoting this location will turn it into an over regulated and over visited place. look what happened to Arches. in the past 10 years. It went from a gem of a park to a parking lot that feels like disneyland, but now you have to jump through endless hoops half a year. in advanced in the hopes to visit the park.

@NPC82

Жыл бұрын

Hmm it's almost like we need more public parks or something.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

I see what you're saying, but Bears Ears was not protected by the Antiquities Act prior to the monument's establishment. Looting and vandalism may have already been illegal, but they were still happening and threatening many sensitive archaeological sites in the area. Monument protection gives an upgraded level of security within its borders and I think with proper funding and education, the increased visitation can be accommodated.

@TS-lw5nv

Жыл бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries archeological sites are already protected. And much of those sites were already on protected BLM land. I wish I agreed with you -- as I want to have more parks -- but I've seen first hand in many places how the "Park" status leads to over regulation and over crowding. Thankfully it's a monument status.

@jlacy73

Жыл бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries This area is so large and vast that there is no way to guard against looting and vandalism. An increase of tourists who climb in the ruins and pick corn cobs off the ground, that’s your true threat.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

@@jlacy73 I believe through proper funding and education, large areas can be protected from looting and vandalism, as we've seen with countless large protected areas throughout the United States.

Im all four the preservation of bears ears. I have watched many videos of the area. What it would be protecting which is so important, is the native culture which goes back thousands of years, the history and the overall environment. It's God's country

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

Even if the only argument in favour was having the indigenous people involved in the area’s management, I would still be on that side.

Luckily, oil and gas leasing in such incredibly rough country will not hurt the countryside as much as extra tourists. (?) The philosophy of those who crave "a self-sufficient way of living" can do that at home, because raping Public Lands with cattle or oil and gas on someone else's land is clearly NOT "SELF-sufficient"

@jlacy73

Жыл бұрын

There are no prospects for oil or gas on Bears Ears. That was a false narrative pushed by the pro-monument crowd to further their agenda.

@jackprier7727

Жыл бұрын

@@jlacy73 cool that you can see into the far future!!

Drill Baby, Drill !

Edgar Hewett, nothing east of the Rockies? Why not?

I wanna see that Ralph Cameron vid!

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Noted! Thanks for the feedback!

1.3 million acres is ridiculous. Protect the sites, there isn't 1.3 million acres of historical sites.

Talk about Oak Flats!

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Got it on my list! Thanks for the suggestion!

less face, more b roll

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback 👍

soon to be another public meeting May 2 2024

Why does every KZreadr think that we want to stare at the narrator? Fill in more images, stuff for us to look at while your explaining, please

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

I can't speak for other KZreadrs, but for me personally, appearing on camera (something I haven't traditionally done on this channel) is a way to add a more personal touch to my videos. Especially when I'm dealing with highly contentious topics like this one and sharing my own thoughts, I like to give a face to the commentary I'm providing. Thanks for watching.

@ClipsNSnips

Жыл бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries I appreciate that you gave this topic some thought, but as far as feedback from this viewer: I would like to watch stories about National Parks while looking at National Parks (and other relevant imagery)

🤠 I love setting aside places where we are not allowed to wreck the place.

As a resident of Utah, people here hate it when the government tries to tell them where they can and cannot go, many locals love to take there four-wheelers and go riding up there because some cannot hike to these areas. And not being able to go to places that you love just because someone who lives on the other side of the continent says you can't is frustrating. It makes it worse when that place you once loved has become so overcrowded as most national parks and monuments get, and you can't find peace and quiet and have to go in a traffic jam style line up a hiking trail like what has now happened to Zion National Park it is terrible. Not to mention what also happened to Zion national park with all of the predators being scared away and it ruins the balance of the ecosystem.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your perspective. In the case of off-road vehicle use specifically, I think unrestricted use runs the risk of damaging important cultural and ecological areas and that a management plan with specific areas for their use is best.

@Trox2018

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps it would be best designated Wilderness.

@Ex_christian

Жыл бұрын

Utah has completely screwed us with the Big 5 advertising when we don’t get money to FIX our infrastructure that tourism and 4 wheelers destroy. If we got the money, it wouldn’t be a problem. But Utah is greedy. Arches and Canyonlands could easily be Bus only parks. But we don’t have many in Utah who use critical thinking or common sense.

@kanyanviers8776

Жыл бұрын

@@Ex_christian four-wheelers do not destroy, if you go and actually watch people ride around in the mountains you will see almost everyone stays on the trails and everyone here in Utah has a lot more respect for this land than you think they do and that's why we have fought the BLM and Forest Service vigorously to keep our trails open so more locals that cannot hike anymore can still experience these places and so you can see more of it in one trip. And obviously there are some bad apples that don't just like in anything people do.

@tavanweerd

Жыл бұрын

Yes what the Utah Travelers Acociation ruined moab all my favorite secret spots are now crawling everywhere! Even SanRafell swell amoung the uranium tailings from the mines. Now look at it another way. To the 1st Nations people that land is sacred ancestral home. All they ask is to be respectful of their home. Which is never going to happen with greedy planet killing oil and gas industry. Pulling all the polatitons strings. Did you know that the Navajo tribe was supposed to have over 50% of the water rights of lake Powell because the lake would flood of thier good farmland down in the canyons of what is now a dying reservoir. Will they get their land back that they got flooded out of baicly. Do you think the Navajo ever got any of that water? Have you been to the res? Ain't no water there. Run run too many people are too destructive on four wheelers see everyone if Antiquity and they just destroy it and see that maybe they don't do it anymore but I've seen it all done just want you to think about that

Those opponents’ “reasons” sound like excuses. Visitor numbers have been regulated and managed in national parks before. I’m a big fan of the new permit process for Yosemite: it has made the park so much more enjoyable; and I didn’t see any trash anywhere. Also like he says in the video, visitor education is very important. As for the “federal over-reach,” federal protection is often necessary to protect the incredibly limited natural spaces we have left. We wouldn’t have a fraction of the currently undeveloped beautiful areas, without federal protection. I don’t hear complaints about the “federal over-reach” that has effectively stolen most of indigenous peoples’ ancestral lands away from them. So it would seem that “over-reach” is pretty relative to one’s own interests. Personally, my interest is in protection and conservation, not for me as an individual, but for ecosystems and indigenous lands.

@christopherrowley7506

Жыл бұрын

it was already public 'multi use' land under BLM. Making it a monument just means building more roads and advertising to tourists. Last time I was at Zions a park ranger told me "This park is getting crushed by its own popularity" and I agree--you had to literal stand in line to go hike a section of trail. I hope bears ears doesn't turn out the same

@duncdunc76

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherrowley7506 Well sadly that Park Ranger didn't seem to understand human nature if they were saying the protection of Zion is to blame for its state of degradation. Or you might have misunderstood what they were saying or possibly misinterpreted it. Sure if you keep a place secret then only the few that know about it reap it's rewards but it is also up to those few then as to how the place fairs in its existence. And amazing places just don't tend to stay secret do they, so its almost a mute point anyway. Without formal protection respected by all, people who visit and experience a place would contribute far more to its degradation compared to the amount of degradation that happens under the protection of federal agencies. Human history demonstrates this time and time again.

@christopherrowley7506

Жыл бұрын

@@duncdunc76 I don't think you understand. How do you protect land? By designating it as public land. But there are many different designations for public land, so what designation protects land the most? If Zion National Park had been designated a Wilderness area instead of a National Park, it would have been way less developed than it is today, and thus more protected. The problem with national parks and monuments is that there is a tendency for more and more development. We want paved roads instead of 4x4 only roads, for better access for the public. And now that there is more traffic we have to build more parking lots. And now that more people are coming we need bathrooms. And we should probably build the trail larger and pave the most used portions. And we need to build more campgrounds, and lets have some luxury cabins for rich people, etc etc etc. There are rare instances like in Denali National Park where they didn't pave the road--but that's actually because 1/3rd of that park is designated as Wilderness. So we see that it matters a lot what the designation is. Everyone applauds when a national park is designated, but they don't consider what the designation was before (in most cases today it was already protected land of some type), or what it could have been designated instead to protect it more.

@duncdunc76

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherrowley7506 Well I respectfully disagree with your premise that National Park designations are bad and create more land degradation then other designations of protected land aside from Wilderness land. BLM land is far less protected then NP land. That's just a fact. I see what your maybe trying to say but there is no evidence or real examples of Lands that have National Park level beauty and unique significance being protected better by other land protection classifications aside from your one example of wilderness areas. And here's the truth about Wilderness areas. Almost all are not of extremely unique significance to warrant a National Park designation otherwise they would have one. And those that might possibly rise to that level but are still Wilderness designations, are so, because they are quite remote and or are difficult to get to in most cases. I will not argue with the fact that a Wilderness designation provides as much if not more protection in some but not all cases for land. However the one huge peice of the puzzle that everyone has to remember is that if the majority of people can't reasonably visit and enjoy their beautiful protected lands then the support behind protecting those lands dwindles and can lead to the protected lands becoming unprotected. A classic example being Hetch Hetchy Valley. So although National Park land does suffer some degradation, I argue it is the most protected public land we have and actually serves to bolster protection of all other public land we have by elevating and fostering the importance of public land protection. so that all may have the opportunity to visit and enjoy the beauty and wildness of our wonderful public lands.

@christopherrowley7506

Жыл бұрын

@@duncdunc76 You say Wilderness areas remote and difficult to get to, but that's only because people fought for them to be that way. That's the only reason we have the huge roadless portion of Idaho--the Frank Wilderness used to have roads crisscrossing through from logging and mining but people fought for it to become more protected, which they succeeded at and now it's the most pristine land in the lower 48. If there had been a national park made of the Salmon River instead, you better believe it would be more developed. The only reason Denali National Park has a road going there at all is because they designated it a national park, otherwise it would have been another roadless wilderness in Alaska. Also I've heard of no movements to get rid of the Bob or the Frank wildernesses even though they don't have easy access for people so I don't believe that poor access means less support for protection. You say that people need to visit a place in order to want to protect it. That simply isn't true at all. There is huge support against north shore oil drilling in Alaska, and almost no one has been there. There is huge support against whaling, even though most people have never seen a whale. And for our own discussion here, there is huge support for a national monument in Bears Ears even though most people didn't know it existed before it became a political scandal. Hetch Hetchy Valley is truly a huge loss, but that was a fault of politicians and no one else. Hetch Hetchy was already part of the national park, but Woodrow Wilson signed the act that allowed the valley to be flooded anyway. There was a huge fight about it, the sierra club was doing all they could for it. It's not like it was some no-name valley that didn't have anyone trying to protect it. Politicians that didn't care is what ruined that. Obama made Bears Ears a national monument in spite of lots of locals trying to fight it, and Trump downsized it in spite of most of the nation trying to fight him. As lowly citizens we have an obligation to do the best we can, but at the end of the day it's politicians at the top who decide. And personally I'd prefer if they decided for Wilderness or National Conservation Areas over National Parks and National Monuments. But the appeal of tourism development is a lot sexier to politicians than protecting land.

I was against the creation of Bears Ears NM. I love poking around in that area. It had some protection as BLM land, but people didn't really know too much about the wonderful beauty of the area and the amazing ancient pueblo Indian art and structures everywhere. You could camp anywhere, not have to pay a fee and just explore. I am so worried that the area around Bluff, Utah will become the same madhouse the Moab area has become. It's just my preference but I prefer BLM land to monument land. BLM land also serves more stakeholders. I don't mind a few cattle or a mining operation if it means real freedom to explore. You showed some of the wolf panel. I had to scale across a narrow ledge on a cliff face to get to it. I'd hate to see the park service decide that people in wheel chairs need access and they build some horrible bridge structure and put in hand rails and just screw the whole thing up. Or even better yet build a huge roadway so people can drive by and see it from their RV in air conditioned comfort.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your opinion. I think, for me, a place like Bears Ears needs the type of protection that "normal" BLM land can't quite provide. The multiple-use regulations governing that type of land are contradictory to protecting the types of resources that Bears Ears is intended to protect, calling for a higher level of protection, and thus monument status. I see your concern about overcrowding and Moab-style development and crowds. Personally, I don't see that as an argument against the monument itself, but rather an opportunity for more responsible development and for people to learn and experience such a special place. I also don't think it will greatly alter the current recreation opportunities there. At least anecdotally speaking, I was in Bears Ears last October and was still able to camp for free, and wander wherever I liked. I'm not saying it will be easy, and I think we need to go to great lengths to increase visitor education and outreach, but I think the increased protections National Monument status provides to the Bears Ears area are worth working through some of the difficulties. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

@jasonhernandez619

Жыл бұрын

I'm with you that BLM lands offer a very different kind of experience than National Parks. When I lived in Washington, I loved Olympic National Forest for very different reasons than I loved Olympic National Park. Chief of those reasons being that I could more easily find solitude; just park at the berm of a decommissioned logging road and use it like a trail. I might not see anyone all day.

We have three generations of Cameron's in our family. It must be unsullied now!

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

I will do my best to redeem us 🙏

Thanks for the breakdown, never been there but the history and environment must be saved

@NationalParkDiaries

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

To actually understand this issue you'd have to go spend time in rural southern Utah there's basically 0 industry so much so to the point where it makes it hard to go and visit these beautiful places barely any hotels restaurants or markets to support the massive amount of tourists coming through the area so basically locals in southern Utah aren't against the monument but think that it grabs land that's unrelated to what they are protecting and makes it impossible for mining or ranching things that keep their economy going I'm not really a fan of how Utah's blm manages cattle they over graze and destroy the land but that's a hole separate issue

I think this area should be protected! But I also know that Obama and Biden unduly go to far, with no justification! I think the proper level of protection is somewhere in the middle. This would probably satisfy both sides.

I have that same white shirt

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Love Parks Project!

@The_Wack

Жыл бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries some of the best clothing out there and it supports a good cause

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

@@The_Wack absolutely!

Really nice clip Cameron. I also have a channel dedicated to everything national parks and public lands. I visited bears ears in 2019 with Randy,the creator of " America's Parks" here on KZread. This is tough one all around. The main point in opposition is very valid... That inccreased visitation will harm what they intended to protect. Until its declaration,i myself had never heard of Bears Ears, like probably 99 percent of people. Unfortunately, lots of people view national parks like Disneyland. Overuse has done lots of harm to places like Yosemite and zion to name a few. Bears ears is a BLM site, with very little in the name of infrastructure ( why i love BLM sites). But that also means a small staff of people cover an imence area of land, making it impossible to keep watch over. People WILL steal and break the rules to get a suviineer. Sad, yes...but its honest. Personally, i believe if considerations from both sides came together,a solution can be found that satisfies all interested parties. It can done... example is Canyons of the Ancients national monument in Colorado that protects some very important sites, but also allows natural gas extraction and ranching. A perfect example of shared use that benefits both parties. Glad i found your channel and feel free to check mine out if you like.just click on my name. Keep em coming!

Excellent presentation about the significance of Bear's Ears. I've been following and supporting this monument since before Obama protected it. We need these contiguous preserved areas to save artifacts and species, as well as to respect indigenous cultures. UT should probably modify their education funding model, as oil/gas reserves are finite and damaging to extract. Not to mention the fact that the land is the home and sacred to the different tribes there.💚✌️😎 #ProtectBearsEars #LandBack

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watchin and adding your perspective! Glad you found it helpful!

It has nothing to do with the land, you or me. It's just the new thing in our politics and it sucks.

Funny how trump took away protection from bears ears. But signed gateway arch as a national park. What an effing joke

Being that the Federal Government owns 66% of the state of Utah, the fact that an area larger than the state of Rhode Island has been cordoned off essentially forever is understandably a sticking point. As for the issue of the number of cultural sites and geological formations, the land is already owned by the BLM and is already Federal land, subject to Federal regulations, and you can't save everything. Imagine if the Federal government said all of Western Massachusetts is too pretty, contains thousands of culturally important vintage buildings, towns and churches and therefore no further development can be done and they close off the land. The fact that Trump reduced the size of the park rather than eliminating it completely was a valid compromise. There is a reason why they were able to even create the park - no one lives there and no one really wants to live there given the option, including Natives.

NP Diaries: You voice is great for narration (for that 10) and the report is fantastic. Visually, a frown and low energy. I suggest you work on your warmth in front of the camera or stick with stock video. Please don't take this suggestion personally. I like your work, but you look really unhappy in front of the camera.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the feedback. I'm still pretty new to the on-camera thing and I think those skills will improve with time. I'm glad you still found the video helpful, and I hope you'll stick around during this time of transition on the channel.

@teddyl7006

Жыл бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries Keep it up.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

@@teddyl7006 Will do!

I'm wondering if some opening of discussion explaining how the Doctrine of Discovery shaped our who concept of land management might put more balance in the understanding of why we are where we are in terms of how we view the land. When such a strong divide of opinion exists, maybe it would be a good idea just to return the land to the original occupants who never regarded land as something to be owned would be in the best interest of the planet.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

The human relationship with land is a pretty consistent theme on this channel, and I'm always accepting new perspectives on that topic. Aldo Leopold's Land Ethic has heavily influenced my own perspective on this issue and I certainly wish we as a species valued land as more than a commodity. I think if we could move beyond that mentality, we could make a lot of progress on so many environmental issues facing our society today. Thanks for your perspective.

@auntiebobbolink

Жыл бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries Mahalo (thank you) for your response and heart! I very much appreciate what you are doing. If you ever want to start a "store" here on your channel, you have, in my opinion, the perfect start. I can envision shirts, mugs, etc. with the theme of viewing land as more than a commodity and I think it's safe to assume those would be popular items. However, I would make a change in the wording. It's important to recognize that we 'Merkins aren't all of the species. We have much to learn from native people in regards to considering and treating all of nature as our relatives. I'm "not* talking about appropriating ceremonies or anything like that. I mean learning to view each other and all of nature as family. I don't think those of us who didn't grow up with that view can fully develop it, but we can certainly make a good start and I know there are native people who would help us with that development. Kanaka Maoli (native Hawaiians) also have a healthy view of Papa, the Hawaiian word for mother Earth. As the song says, " Papa is like Tutu (grandmother), she's your mama too ". I think we could, are ready to, and the times call for us to forge a relationship in that direction. I'm here today to celebrate Feast Day with Laguna Pueblo for the first time in almost three years, and their dancing today will reflect their relationship with all of creation. It has adjusted my view and many others, so I offer this aspect. Send some good thoughts and prayers for Laguna Pueblo today. 🤗🤙. Thank you for your care for Papa!

@auntiebobbolink

Жыл бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries I wanted to express this part of my response to you separately. None of us can read all books available, so you are doing a great service by sharing what you've learned from your reading with the rest of us. There is much wisdom in those writings! I would suggest that in order to affect the thinking of others who aren't yet committed environmentalists, going back further in history to understand how our thinking was developed could impact those who haven't thought about it that deeply yet. Learning the Doctrine of Discovery, or as Dr George Tinker (Osage) calls it, the Doctrine of Christian Discovery, could affect the basic understanding of those who aren't aware of how our commodification was shaped. The wording is startling and I have seen it change how some regard our attitude. Besides, I promised an Arapahoe woman I'd continue to tell people about the Doctrine of Discovery. 😁. Even further, it charges the algorithm. 😁🌞 Subscribed. 👋

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

@@auntiebobbolink Hey Bobby, you're absolutely right! We can definitely learn a lot from indigenous teachings about how to view the Earth with more respect and ultimately come to a much more healthier relationship with our environment. Thanks for your insight and correction (and for engaging with these issues!). Best of luck today!

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

@@auntiebobbolink I'll certainly look into that, thanks for bringing it to my attention and thanks for supporting the channel!

I live in Texas. I have no idea what near ears are except on a bears head.

The Antiquities Act was intended to protect discrete areas. Not to create a huge new park. That’s a job for Congress to create national parks. Not the executive branch. Congress should amend the Act giving it size limits

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

When the Act was being created, size limits were actually discussed. But they were removed for fear of them restricting the places that could be protected. The Courts have upheld the Act regarding various size disputes over the years.

@Idahoguy10157

Жыл бұрын

@@NationalParkDiaries …. The legislation stated intent without attaching actual size restrictions for creating national monuments. In simple terms it’s a “nothing is illegal unless there is an explicit law against doing it” argument. As far as a judge is concerned the Antiquities Act law is vague. It’s up to Congress to make it not vague. I’m not holding my breath waiting on that to happen. Except now we have bad precedence. One president creates a huge National Monument. The next President comes in and reduces it size. The next president reverses the second president… Congress could create a Bear Ears National Park and settle the matter. No one should hold their breath waiting on that to happen…

Videos are great, but you have zero expression in your face. It doesn’t translate well and lowers the quality of the video. You look bored. Not trying to be rude, just offering a way to improve your presence.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I'm still pretty knew to the whole on-camera thing and I think that will continue to improve with time. It was always in my long-term vision for this channel to start appearing on camera so I could impart a more personal touch to some of these issues and give the audience something to relate to. I appreciate you sticking around during this transition period and supporting the channel.

I live in Salt Lake City and southern Utah has 5 national parks and Grand staircase national monument I don't think the government needs to lock up all of southern Utah.

@Ex_christian

Жыл бұрын

It can lock up more since it’s a beautiful area and we don’t need people destroying it. Look where you live in the smog. We don’t want this or more destruction in Southern/eastern Utah!

@garyoakman6187

Жыл бұрын

@@Ex_christian Do you want to lock up all BLM ground south of I 70 to the Arizona border. Instead of the big 5 Will call if Utah national park lock it all up.

@Ex_christian

Жыл бұрын

@@garyoakman6187 as usual, always have to completely go the other way and say that’s what they are going to do. The only thing Utah Government wants to do is destroy the land around us and pollute it on top of the side by sides, etc doing their diligence in destruction.

@garyoakman6187

Жыл бұрын

@@Ex_christian How much of southern Utah do you want to lock up?

@garyoakman6187

Жыл бұрын

@@Ex_christian Is Bears ears that much different than western Colorado or northern Arizona why is that spot in Utah so much different than other parts of the West?

My guess is that over time more damage will be done to the historic artifacts by making this a monument than by leaving it alone. The increased traffic from tourism will do harm to these sites. They were already protected this doesn't add more protection.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

I'm of the opinion that the impacts from increased visitation can be accommodated with adequate funding (to put up barriers or hire more rangers) and increased education efforts (social media campaigns and interpretive signage).

Let's get real: the main "controversy" was over the fact Obama designated the monument. Had GW Bush designated it in 2008, there never ever would have been much controversy. (I'm not a big Bush fan, but I respect his various designation of national monuments, including offshore and oceanic ones...pretty forward thinking stuff). A good portion of Trump's presidency was being "anti-obama". It's not like that guy would ever bother visiting, hiking or appreciating the region. If it doesn't have a golf course or top secret US documents to sell, Trump doesn't actually give a crap. Biden did the right thing by sweeping Trump's malarkey away. Bears Ears and that general region of Utah is magnificent. It needs protected and stewarded by the people who have been in that region for thousands of years. It should not be harmed by short term economic endeavors that will scar the landscape.

Let me correct you. It's not about culture. It's about money. How could someone use the argument that increased visitation would cause more harm than oil extraction, and mining. That's not even a serious argument. This comes down to money. Utah wants it. The Federal Government is keeping them from getting it. I'll also remind people that in the middle of an historically significant drought, Utah uses more water per capita than any other state. That in and of itself shows how this state does not care about their environment.

@JC-mx8hv

Жыл бұрын

This brings up another issue about how locals treat an environment vs foreigners. I am always shocked at how my Pennsylvania family casually cut down trees. But I am from a place where trees aren’t so common. Probably a good thing I don’t have any say on how they treat their land. A really interesting video on this subject compares how the Romans destroy so many of their own wonders, while invaders often tried saving them. It reminds me of how people think the Cubans should live in squalor to protect the beauty of Havana

@jlacy73

Жыл бұрын

Let me correct you . . . it has very little to do with money for those who live here. There are NO oil prospects here. It is rich in uranium, but there’s no future in that in the foreseeable time. But it’s all about the fact that we don’t tourists from around the world overrunning our backyard.

@MyNomadicDream

Жыл бұрын

You probably also believe Pipelines are worse than transporting crude oil via Trucks

What's forgotten are the indigenous people are still living on the lands, and their lands were stolen, which no one wants to admit or believe since their history was written out of America's history. Every National park has an indigenous name that will and should be applied.

Nice video, but I think it is missing some important context. Over 60% of Utah is owned by the federal government. Compare that to .5% of Kansas, .8% of New York, or even 36% of Colorado. Utah has little to no say over the majority of its land mass. The federal government tries to make-up the loss in revenue with cash payments to the state. However, these payments are so pathetic, that the state raises more money in a few months of sales taxes, than it received through this program over decades. Consider also that Utah is near the very bottom of federal spending per capita. Other states are able to tax much greater percentages of their land mass and receive massively more money from the federal government. Also the state government has been almost completely ignored in these designations. The Clinton admin, didn’t bother to consult the governor or the congressional delegation before before creating Escalante, a monument larger than some states. Obama created Bears Ears even thought the governor and the congressional delegation were opposed. Finally, why do indigenous people have say over Western land, but not Eastern land? Other states don’t have their democracy competing with a hereditarily privileged group. I type this on a small phone screen, please forgive spelling and grammar errors.

@WyomingTraveler

Жыл бұрын

You make some very good points. Let’s face it conservation has always been a contentious topic.

@xmeano

Жыл бұрын

You have some valid points but you shouldn’t be pointing blame at indigenous peoples who have been incredibly unprivileged. Honestly they should have claim over eastern lands as well as western lands cause the lands have been trashed and degraded ever since settlers arrived. Also even though there’s lost revenue is mining and oil there’s a gain in cleaner watersheds and higher biodiversity which keeps the land livable. With that I’m not trying to say the federal government couldn’t be giving out more funds.

@JC-mx8hv

Жыл бұрын

Actually it it is 52% according to ballotopia. And Oregon has, depending how you count benefits, twice or up to 8 times the federal funding per capita. I don’t understand why this always breaks down to an attack on a particular state. Why not advocate for a massive increase in federal funding for states that are handicapped by federal lands. All states have to educate, feed and house their populous.

@JC-mx8hv

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your reply. When I talk about hereditary privilege, I mean that the government treats people preferably based on who their parents were and the treatment is transferred through the generations. Philosophers of democracy have warned of the dangers of hereditary privilege for hundreds of years. The founding of the US was an attack on hereditary privilege, so was the civil rights movement. On the public lands issue you have a state with democratically elected leaders being put on the same level (or in Bears Ears case, below) as a group with hereditary privilege. If you want to be a Utahn, all you have to do is move there. You can not become an indigenous person, it is solely based on who your family is. I know that this privilege is rather recent, but it is still anti-democratic. And I doubt it can be sustained in the long term.

@xmeano

Жыл бұрын

@@JC-mx8hv I get what you’re trying to say, but I believe the hereditary privilege that those philosophers warned of was those belonging to the capitalist class, indigenous peoples have only recently been getting any say over land they used to protect and care for. If you want to call something undemocratic just look into the recent past and see how the government has treated the indigenous peoples time and time again, we try to give them the land with the least value and if there ends up being wealth there we kick them out again and relocate them hundreds of miles away from their home just because there’s money involved. Indigenous folks want to see the land thrive unlike those who want it available to extract any resources possible.

Now that I understand the issue, I think this is way too big. I've never heard of this place until you explained it. I want these important sites to be protected. But "Cultural Landscape" protection is an absurd idea. It could literally be said about every inch of land in the US. Honestly, if this doesn't get fixed soon, I might become a one issue voter. Repeal this act. One man shouldn't have this kind of power. This power is reserved for Congress, and they aren't allowed to abdicate.

The president shouldn't have that much power. Might as well call him king.

Well put together video. While I like many of the monuments and national parks. I don't think the antiquities act is a good thing overall. I can see them giving the authority to temporarily protect and area until congress can del with it. But giving the President (many of them obsessed with their silly ideas on a "Legacy") the unilateral authority to strip away land anytime they want in a region of the country where the federal government already controls way too much of every state is over reach. It centralizes too much power in the hands of usually corrupt people. Bears ears should be the last and no more without congress legislation. Most of the current federal land outside the current national parks and military installations should be returned to the states, with a third of it given out under a renewal of the Homestead act. We need the land for people.

@Gail-gf7km

Жыл бұрын

We need fewer people. Wilderness is necessary for the spiritual and mental health of the people and the physical health of the planet.

@jds1275

Жыл бұрын

@@Gail-gf7km I'm going to guess you live in a city?

@Gail-gf7km

Жыл бұрын

@@jds1275 No, I do not live in a city, and have not in 50 years. I treasure this country’s wild spaces, and I don’t think that we need more parking lots and shopping malls. Instead, we need room to breathe.

Everyone knows Camerons are Sussy AF. Probably deserved ❤ 😊. I am personally of the opinion that the majority of utah should be protected from economic exploitation. My home state has some wonderful history and magnificent historical peoples whom have called it home for millennia. Not to mention the natural beauty and splendor that we have taken for granted for the entire history of our nation since we first manifested our destiny all over the west. But I think we need a new type of federal protection for places like bears ears, one that would reject all visitation except for the historical peoples that have a religious claim to use the land, or whom have other needed visitation claims (like upkeep and security). How would that all work? I dunno, I’m just a guy who wants us to treat tour world with more respect.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, can't trust those Camerons 😂 But yes, I'm all for preservation of this landscape. I think there's a way to protect it and accommodate various groups of visitors as well, so that we all can learn about (and help protect in the future) the incredible history of these lands. Thanks for your input!

This just makes me so mad. Special interests trumped everyone and everything else. We lose treasures everyday for what? For who? Oil and mining companies? No way, this isn't about culture its about MONEY.

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, in a lot of cases (this one included), I think those things go hand in hand

@jlacy73

Жыл бұрын

There are no treasures being lost. This place was never under threat. It was a narrative made up to push the monument. If you ever come to visit, take note that you will not see any active mine, oil rigs, or houses. Until it became a monument, you wouldn’t have seen many people.

All I hear is lies. About nature resources, all oil and gas is be take out from under Indian land like a long pipe going sideways. Not just strait down.

Trump gave only 3 bids. 2 chinese 1 russian.

Love national parks. Roosevelt was correct to protect them. I want to protect the whole site! Oil and mining have no business there. Tourism, to respect and be able to use part of the park for camping, hiking, etc. If no one gets to enjoy it, not poison it. We have to stop with the fossil fuels. Humans leave a big enough footprint already. P. S. I've been hearing about the "Flesh Mine National Park. Is the story true here?

@NationalParkDiaries

Жыл бұрын

Totally agreed on Roosevelt! But, I think you might be referring to the Mystery Flesh Pit National Park lol. In which case, that is a story about a fictional national park. It's incredibly detailed and really awesome actually, but not a real National Park. Good question!

would love to hear this story but not by this guy. MONO TONE.