The 8th fish is the fun we had along the way

@elizabethparham2553

5 ай бұрын

And that makes us assholes

@bellyboy3076

5 ай бұрын

and the tuna casserole of course

@beatrice-sama3433

5 ай бұрын

And so it was thrown out of the main exit

@Skibbityboo0580

3 ай бұрын

I thought it was splatted all over the front stoop.

I think another aspect of why the episode starts with Nat and ends with her is because she‘s pregnant and the question becomes breaking the cycle or passing on generational trauma

@beansontoast9924

3 ай бұрын

You're a genius for this

@meadowbrookow

2 ай бұрын

Wow yes, great point!! In the Fishes episode I felt we got more clarity on Natalie's place in the family - to me she comes off as the cycle breaker; the one who wants to do things against the family dynamic/differently to reach a healthier place.

As someone who grew up in a simmering traumatic family dynamic, left home for the military, and then came back to things even more fucked up than before, its a fucking jarring experience. Everyone else stayed home so they've acclimated to the environment, nothing surprises them. When you come back home, its like another chunk has been bitten out of your family dynamic, a giant, bloody gaping hole, and everyone is just actively ignoring it and pretending everything is fine.

Great vid- what i liked is when Carmy is looking at the canoli he is so still and slowly turning red- a great nod to the mentions in series that he forgets to breath sometimes under stress which we now know is another thing brought about by his family

@Pleasant_Excuses

5 ай бұрын

holy shit I never noticed this!!

the best part about the seven fishes story is that through all the different perspectives of what the meal is about it always boils down to what each person brings to the table. Everybody should bring something to the table but that can only happen if the owner of said table lets them help.

@Camila-yh7jr

6 ай бұрын

Damn 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

@Peapeapeapa

Ай бұрын

Yeesssss exactly!! I think Fishes is almost like a summary of what the whole show is about. Donna didn't let anyone help her or bring anything for dinner, and the whole show is about if Carmy will become like her or break that cycle and accept help, not try to be perfect, and let other people shine.

@jays2551

Ай бұрын

unless you bring tuna salad to the table, because then you're calling everyone at the table an asshole apparently

I really loved how they followed this episode, which was one of the most emotionally traumatic things I've ever seen on screen, with forks, which is one of the most joyful things I've ever seen on screen. This show, man.

That "are you okay" at the table reminded me of the scene between Carmy and Sugar when they were hunting for tax receipts. She says to her brother "You never ask if I'm okay." After Carmy explains why he can't bring himself to ask her, he digs in deep to ready himself to bear the answer to the question she longs for him to ask. And what does Sugar do? She brushes him off with a "I'm fine" and lets the moment pass.

@meadowbrookow

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I love this point - I think once she got what she wanted and finally heard him ask, she knew/felt that Carmy couldn't take what she would really want to say and backed down because she couldn't bear to burden him.

My Mother's full blooded Italian. I believe narcissitic. Total childhood trauma. Her name is Donna. Maiden last Italian name starts with a B. It's like scary. The accurary of the dysfunctional Italian family. My grandparents were alcoholics. Maybe it's why I am so obsessed with this show and JAW's acting.

Lee's vendetta against Mikey started earlier in the episode. Lee was behaving in a creepy way around Donna, kinda like he might try to take advantage of her drunken state. Mikey walks in, sees this, and responds like this is a pattern of behavior. "You're a mess, Lee." After that, Lee's just looking for a *reason* to tear down Mikey. Like telling a humorous story at a family gathering to an audience that admitted to having not actually heard it before.

Maybe, Natalie saying that you can’t make anyone act a certain way really IS a way of coping for her. I think she feels kinda responsible to try and fix things with Donna, helping her in the kitchen, but if Nat were to embrace the thought that you actually CAN influence others, it would make her feel obligated to try and fix her family, which is… well, not an easy task. So yeah, maybe it’s what Nat says to herself to cope. Just a thought. BTW, great video! Pretty sure you’re about to become huge; your understanding of these characters is really good, as well as of the show’s visual symbolism.

@Strawb_Goblin

6 ай бұрын

Ya I think it's healthy that she is trying to remind herself that she is not to blame for how her mother treats her. But it's also ironic because their families dysfunction make them all act out these patterns.

@meadowbrookow

2 ай бұрын

I agree with both your points. I really feel for Natalie watching her mother self-destructing and finding it hard not to ask if Donna is okay. The nickname Sugar and its origins, plus Nat's attitude toward the restaurant and her behaviour when she's with her family, suggests to me that she can't take not helping her family, yet doesn't know how to help them (note: not her responsbility) and is afraid to make things worse after past incidents.

I wanna talk about the parallels of the spoon/forks thrown and when Camry throws the sharpie as Sydney is leaving the beef

@TheEcon20

6 ай бұрын

Also how Nat gets on Camry about not having enough forks for the restaurant, and how Richie is assigned to clean forks in the next ep “Forks”. What’s the symbolism?

@ThePretzelNuggets

6 ай бұрын

@@TheEcon20 first thing that comes to mind is “fork in the road”, since we focus on Mikey’s choice to throw it or not, Carmy’s choice to order enough or not, and Richies choice to respect it or not. Idk if that’s anything

Will Poulter really arrived for me in We’re the Millers.

@brainst3w

6 ай бұрын

“what’s up, eyebrows?” lol

Honestly, Mama Berzatto, to me, shows many signs of Borderline Personality Disorder. The outbursts of rage, intense emotions (especially of anger, sadness, bitterness, and loneliness), seeing everything as a rejection. It absolutely broke my heart when she begged Pete not to tell them she wa there, because she genuinely believes her children are better off without her, and that she will never be a good enough or worthy mother for them to love her. She hates herself more than anyone i have ever seen.

I don't think Mikey's anger towards Lee is only building up because of the comments towards him... in a very puppet-master-y moment Mikey is around Lee and Donna when he's trying to get her into his shady business stuff he knows he doesn't appreciate her, so when Lee says that at the dinner table so nonchalantly he snaps

Your first point on Michael sending the Faks into busy Donna- That feels like something a person could do subconsciously, as it's something they've gotten used to doing.

idk if anyone else commented about it but donna asking carmy “do we have a problem?” isn’t an antagonistic question. it’s donna asking his son if he has the same problems that she does, which is paired really well with richie’s characterization of carmy in 2x10 with the splitscreen freezer scene

i had zero clue it was an hour and ive watched it twice, i loved it

I'm also a Narnia turned Maze Runner Will Poulter knower! And I still can't handle the sudden attraction to him I developed during the Bear.😅

@racingbee

14 күн бұрын

same, I think it's the cooking, anytime I see a man cook in a movie I'm instantly attracted haha

Your analysis (both here and in Achieving Excellence, Fearing Joy) is so wise and excellent. Your emotional intelligence is simply amazing--I would love to know what inspires these insights. As Syd's dad would say, these videos are "the thing." Hopefully you have many future posts in the works!

Loved that episode of the Bear and your thoughts on it. It is such a great series with amazing writing and acting.

We're all just Pete walking into this world.

my pov on the nat emphasis is that in current days she is preggo meaning shes the first of the bears to make a new generatjon of this family. i think shes scared that she could be a not great mom or that she'll be doing it without her mom which hurts but feels necessary or that the crazy will emerge once the babe is born. im sure she was planning on telling Donna about the baby on f&f night. shes comitted to be involved in this resto that has been nothing but struggle and trauma for her, a place she never wanted to be. shes also been the only one in contact with their mom since mikeys death. i love abby's portrayal.

This is the kind of analysis that the bear deserves

I'm midsommar Will Poulter

Subscribed because of the Bob's your uncle joke LOL

I like how you explain the things

Remember that time Richie almost killed a guy and we just never talked about it again? XD Edited to add: This episode gave me flashbacks to all the holidays with my crazy ex in-laws. I was basically Pete walking into the warzone completely oblivious, but I was married to Carm, my MIL was Donna and my SIL was Nat. Divorce can be a beautiful thing.

i actually dont think i even noticed it was an hour long until you pointed it out for me just now, i watched this when it came out

I love Jamie Lee Curtis man and no joke this maybe one of my favourite performances from her. Between this, "The Bear" and "Ice Chips" man she runs the whole range

Just finished s2 last night.. that was GOOD tv.. the conversations felt real and genuine.. like they were conversations you could actually see or have in real life.. chaotic, self centered, deflecting, random topics, nervousness, doubt, misunderstanding, silent moments, feeling unheard.. so many more that a real person has experienced themselves. Nat’s saying of you can’t make someone do something is both right and wrong I think. People will act how they’re doing to act with or without influence but WHO the words are coming from can play a huge part in how it all plays out. But damn was I stressed tf out watching this show 😂

I just watched this episode for the first time and did not realize that it was an hour long until you said so - i was just hooked the entire time

i wish this video was an hour long, i yearn for the long format content

Awesome show! Great job Liv, love your insights.

Once again so impressed with your thoughts! Great work

I was looking for a detailed, insightful analysis! Thank you, hope you keep posting ❤️

Great video, thanks! Really appreciate your insight, I feel like I'll pick up on a lot more when I rewatch The Bear.

Took me about 36 mins to realize how long that episode was

These videos are phenomenal KEEP IT UP!!

Brilliant Insights - Psychologically Aware - Hilariously Presented. MANY thanx! 😘

Bandersnatch Will Poulter. Excellent insights!

I just found your channel and absolutely love your videos. Keep it up!!

Wow. This is really brilliant. Like I had to quit watching the app on my TV to tell you how good this was. Ya kinda blew my mind.

Such a fantastic insightful video, I loved this so much.

These videos are amazing and are super important in understanding myself as I follow the character development of the characters in the bear. ❤

This is a good analysis and I dig your dry sense of humor.

Your observation skills and intelligence are both endearing and intimidating.

I'm from dysfunctional family, my father was an alcoholic, so I can see myself in Nat. She feels responsible for peace, she is putting everyone else first, she tries to fix this dynamic so of course she asks if Donna's okay in this peak moment. She maybe even knows it won't help, because in past it maybe led to more problems. But just like every time they promise they will stop drinking you hope that this time will be different. This time all will be well.

You’re so funny this was such a great video!

seeing all the little things you caught that just like absolutely fucken soared right over my precious lil babybrained head makes me wanna go back for a rewatch when i get the time. really really good analysis of some of the more ambiguous plot points as well. you're definitely gonna hit a tipping point and gain a ton of subscribers if you keep making videos so keep up the great work and let it rip!

Wow Liv, I’m so impressed by you!

Your deadpan delivery brilliantly contrasts the intense, manic energy of this episode. Great vid

Speaking for myself I haven’t seen this take in the movie yet and I enjoyed every second

beautiful analysis

I never knew that it was an hour long episode.

"awe he's into his wife" lmao.

Not sure if anyone commented in the first 4 months of this being up but Bob Odenkirk also lived in Chicago before he was a famous actor

LIV WE'LL NEED A SEASON 3 ANALYSIS ONE DAY YOU'RE STILL ONE OF MY FAV KZreadRSSS

i found out the episode was an hour long when you said it was an hour long. i was too captivated to notice.

The scene with Mikey and Carmy at the pantry always gets the vision blurry. Watching Mikey see the effects of his addiction on others even without them knowing but being helpless to stop it

I actually didn’t realize this episode was an hour long, or even longer than the other episodes.

It would've been so touching if after gonna stormed off , uncle Lee said "I'm sorry Mikey..."

I was 48-49 minutes into Fishes before I realized

i grew up with a narcissistic mother. this episode destroyed me, it’s scary how realistic it is

My favorite moment is mikey in the closet crying cause he knows the only way his brothers dream gets to live is if he dies.

The, Narnia - Maze Runner - The Bear Will Poulter timeline is real

yo you're incredible, don't stop doing what you're doing this is great work!! I have: ✅smashed the subscribe button ✅hit that like ✅rang that bell hope to see lots more videos from you in the future!

Please make moreee of these videoss for more movies and series

This one also slapped. Onto ur EEAAO vid…

Donna is literally my mother LMAO

eu poderia assistir você falar sobre essa série por mais 10 vídeos de 40 minutos. Tudo que você falou é relevante para o entendimento de diferentes perspectivas do que acontece na série.

Lol. I literally keep saying, is that so and so, is that so and so, is that so and so

SARAH PAULSON. JAMIE LEE CURTIS

you might be a genius

Going to admit I know will poultry as that guy from the you got payed? Meme

@TheAndrewj96

4 ай бұрын

“Will Poultry,” LOL.

I know you said you didn't want to diagnose Donna, so I'm just going to mention the terms "covert narcissism" and "vulnerable narcissism" totally apropos of nothing 🙃

Jmjs

:)

29:42 bruh

augh, he’s into his wife. that’s weird

Don’t be a Donna

stop