7800 is probably the only console to have its contemporary releases outdone by homebrew. If only that port of Ghost 'n Goblins gets finished...

@feenix219

11 ай бұрын

Bentley Bear Crystal Quest! Knight Guy in Low Res World! Frogger, Burger Time and Q Bert. Definitely waiting on that Ghost 'n Goblins. There are some amazing 2600 homebrews too that push the system well beyond believablilty..... and the things they are getting the Intellivision and Colecovision to do???

@Pac-Lander

4 ай бұрын

@@feenix219 Can't forget about Rikki & Vikki!

The 7800 was our family’s first console. I think you nailed it on the head; but I have lots of nostalgia for it. Had I not grown up with it, I would probably feel as many others do--but the nostalgia is strong for me on this one. For a few years, I had begged and begged (I’m sure annoyingly so to my lower middle class parents) for an NES. But in 1988 we ended up getting a 7800 for christmas that year. It was half-off at KB Toys and my mom picked it up, along with its pack-in (Pole Position II), Ms. PAC-Man, One-on-One and two 2600 games for it: Pitfall and Keystone Kapers, both bargain bin choices at the time. You’d think I was disappointed--NOPE! I was stoked to finally have a system--any system--at home. I had friends that had an NES, an my older brother--who had already moved out-had an NES. But no one I knew had a 7800! I was super excited about Ms PAC-Man especially. My sister and I played that one to death and it got very competitive. And because 2600 games were cheap, I was able to build a decent library. 7800 titles-at $20-remained ones Id ask for for birthdays and Christmas, and over time I added Mario Bros, DK Jr, Commando and Food Fight. In 1989, I begged for ‘Karateka’--and unfortunately got that one; that’s WAS disappointing, but my fault. Fortunately I also got Rampage, which is a solid port. A neighbor give me some of his old 2600 titles for free--like Kaboom (with a paddle). In the end, I had over two dozen games, and many hours of jr high amd high school spent on them. So, ultimately, I was just fine with it. That system remained the one we had through to the end of 1993. Then, I purchased an SNES with my own money, which I consider to be the greatest console of all-time. The homebrew and after-market games for the 7800 show us “what could have been”. It is Atari’s best worse console. The Top 15 7800 games (not including after market games like KLAX or home brews, like Bentley Bear and Popeye): 1. Mario Bros 2. Ms PAC-MAN 3. Food Fight 4. Ball Blazer 5. Commando 6. Ikari Warriors 7. Joust 8. Dig Dug 9. Donkey Kong Jr 10. Rampage 11. Xevious 12. Galaga 13. Desert Falcon 14. Impossible Mission II (It is unbeatable, tho) 15. Mean-18 Golf HM: One-On-One, Pole Position II, Donkey Kong, Tomcat F15, Dark Chambers

Always enjoy listening to this video. One of the most underrated game channels I’ve seen

My family was an Atari family growing up. We got the 2600 when it first came out, the 5200 and the 7800. I didn't get a Nintendo until just before the SNES came out and I was living on my own. My memory of the 7800 was mostly positive due strongly in part to the backwards compatibility aspect. Our 2600 crapped out and we had all these games we couldn't play. The 7800 had very few good and original games, none coming to mind at the moment. So, yeah, it was a good system to play 2600 games with a worse controller. But, like you said, at least it wasn't the 5200!! Thanks for the video.

Really enjoyed this! I like your humor and pacing - very nice. Cheers!

The TIA chip was used to be backwards compatible with the 2600 games. This, in turn, created a limitation of the console.

underrated channel deserve at least 10k subscribers

The 7800 is a great system for me now. I had a NES, SNES, and a Wii after my 2600. When I got nostalgic I got a 7800 and some “better” modern controllers. There are a good number of homebrew games that definitely add to the value. And as he said the backwards compatibility allows me to play my 2600 games. It’s ironic that the new 2600 plus is coming out now, when an old 7800 has advantages.

Clever jokes, made me lol. Wonder why your channel isn't bigger.

I didn't know if the Nes beats the 7800 in system specs or hardware capabilities. The Master System sure does, it beats both consoles. Yes, the sound chip wasn't great but that was done for backwards compatibility. Unfortunately, we never really got to see either the Master System or 7800 pushed. The reason for this was Nintendo's predatory, illegal licensing practices. Had that not happened who knows what we would have seen. I can tell you this the 7800 can actually scale sprites which is something neither the Nes nor Master System could do without software scaling being applied (like with the Genesis). It also apparently has more colors than the Nes and Master System combined. Addendum- I never owned any Atari console accept for the Jaguar. I started gaming in 1986 with the Nes and Master System. I moved onto the Genesis in 1989...and so on. Say what you will about Atari's other consoles but in 1994 the Jaguar had a stone cold stunner with Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, and AVP. Iron Soldier was pretty damn sweet as well.

@cmos85

5 ай бұрын

Id love to talk about the Jaguar at some point

At the time, those "slightly polished graphics" seemed VERY upgraded to gamers. The built-in backward compatibility with 2600 games was great. It looked good and should've been the console that replaced the 2600 rather than the failed 5200 offering.

@marcellachine5718

10 ай бұрын

Definitely, at the time the slight polish was amazing. The kid making this video should stick to the history of xbox.

@cmos85

5 ай бұрын

​​@@marcellachine5718 if it didnt have the NES and Master System as competition it would have been more impressive, but expectations were higher because of those two

@marcellachine5718

5 ай бұрын

@@cmos85 yep, I was there.

@cmos85

4 ай бұрын

I have Pac-Man Jr. for the 2600. Definitely one of the better games for that system.@@provisionalhypothesis

Hell yea this is awesome for such a small channel man one more

There were a few reasons the 7800 was doomed from the start. First of course is the sale of Atari to Jack Tramiel, which caused the 7800's launch to be delayed by 2 years, plus it also resulted in the game development division being split off on it's own, which left Atari without any in house game development for the 7800. Lastly, there were no real development tools available for the 7800, which were critical for making games for it because of it's hardware architecture being a bit convoluted and very difficult to make games for otherwise. And the 7800 used the TIA chip for sound reportedly because GCC went over budget when developing the console, and they had to sacrifice the new sound chip. With modern development tools created by passionate Atari fans, 7800 games can look and perform as good as Master System games. Also, I hold the 7800 controller sideways to get the best grip, and control.

Poor old Atari

Nice video!

Well, this was impressive for a channel with only 371 subscribers. You get one more. Keep it up man.

They just came out with a 2600+ which plays 2600 and 7800 games. It's a 7800 that looks like a 2600. Seems your observations have come full circle. 😩

2 years in eartly 80s is like 20 years now of evolving technology. If the system had been in shop 2 years early the NES would have not existed….The 7800 is much more powerful than the nes for the number of objects moving at the same time. Tramiel is an idiot who could have , with the 7800 released one and half year before the Nes , ruled the video games home market.

@KrunchyTheClown78

8 ай бұрын

Completely agree. Time Warner made a huge mistake by selling Atari. They would have had the entire NA console market to themselves for nearly 2 years. That's 2 years of growing there install base, and attracting 3rd party devs. It's one of the biggest travesties in video game history

Anytime you don't want your 7800 I'll take it off your hands :)

@cmos85

5 ай бұрын

I like the look more than the 2600. Its also a lot smaller which i really like

Dont talk down about the atari 7800 it could have more going for it if atari would have paid more attention to it i believe it could have successed

@cmos85

9 ай бұрын

What atari really needed was a mascot. Really the only console manufacturer after the 70's to not have one

@Pac-Lander

4 ай бұрын

@@cmos85 Even though Pac-Man was the mascot for game developer Namco, if Atari had developed a port of Pac-Land they could have made the pre-SMB scrolling platformer the game the 7800 came bundled with and Pac-Man would have been known as the defacto "mascot". Pac-Man is easily on par with characters like Mario and Sonic as an international video game superstar. As it stands, Atari does in fact have a mascot named Bentley Bear, who Bob DeCrescenzo made even more famous with the homebrew "Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest", a "WonderBoy-esque" side scrolling adventure, one of the best games on the system.

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Subbed, good stuff man.

Slightly better console than the 2600. Less switches and less glitchy. Controller was poorly designed tho.

You made a claim early in the video I suspect is spurious to a high degree. So you have data or statistics to back up the “largest computer company in the world” claim?

@cmos85

5 ай бұрын

Probably not THE biggest, but they were definitely up there.

I've got a 7800 with 40 games if anybody wants to buy it :)

@Pac-Lander

4 ай бұрын

what games?

@cmos85

4 ай бұрын

I'd love to take a look

Great Video 👍