The Art of Deception - An AoE2 Breakdown

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Age of Empires 2 is an incredibly complex game and too often we overlook the basic aspects that make it great. In this video I dive into how deception was utilized at a very level, and how uniquely it brought success to the victor. This is the beginning of a more deep dive analysis series I'm bringing to the channel to bring even more life to the game. Enjoy!
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  • @T90Official
    @T90Official2 жыл бұрын

    One of the more unique uploads I’ve had, really felt this was interesting. What did you think? Did the talking go too far? Was it fair play? Let me know!

  • @saladman2614

    @saladman2614

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think it was just a situation that here he got out smarted 😎😎🧠

  • @blakelivesay

    @blakelivesay

    2 жыл бұрын

    In a community game, it's expected. In a game between friends, it's in good fun. In a tournament, I do think it's poor sportsmanship. Not to the level of an admin win, and I don't think it would have changed the surprise, but maybe the reaction. There was obviously an expectation by capoch for different conduct by players. But should he have had that? Seems pretty subjective

  • @mikkomannemanne

    @mikkomannemanne

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a casual youtube video watcher, a little bit more insight into the personalities of the players in a video like this would be interesting. As I'm typing this the last bit from St4rk's stream surprised me as the perfect touch of flavor. Great video!

  • @quoththeraven5631

    @quoththeraven5631

    2 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant!

  • @heartsickruben

    @heartsickruben

    2 жыл бұрын

    Copoch should turn off his chat if this distracts him..

  • @Cipher71
    @Cipher712 жыл бұрын

    The irony here is that Capoch saying "That's bad sportsmanship. I will get admin win. Sorry :(" is a perfect example of *actual* bad sportsmanship. It's commonly referred to as 'rule sharking'.

  • @sam4secretary

    @sam4secretary

    2 жыл бұрын

    That ambush seems REAAAAAALY tilting.

  • @whuzzzup

    @whuzzzup

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, Capoch just lost all my respect.

  • @SilentHotdog28

    @SilentHotdog28

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hungrycrab3297 Capoch could have been fair about it and said "I'm going to ask the admin if that is allowed? But let's keep playing" and leave it at that, but he was being salty and unsportsman like about it.

  • @covakoma1064

    @covakoma1064

    2 жыл бұрын

    No speaking in game rule is stupid. Even in real war you have messenger that bring message and comunicate between two armys in war. Dont kill the messenger! THIS! IS! SPARTAAA!!!

  • @raphaelcardoso7927

    @raphaelcardoso7927

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@whuzzzup He was just tilted, give the guy some slack

  • @BubblewrapHighway
    @BubblewrapHighway2 жыл бұрын

    "When you are far, appear as if you are near." St4rk really embodied that when he was 1000 miles away during that final attack. 😂

  • @Lenel_Devel

    @Lenel_Devel

    2 жыл бұрын

    And ended up slaughtering all the villagers due to being so far away too, what a gamer.

  • @ShinjiGetsGrounded
    @ShinjiGetsGrounded2 жыл бұрын

    "Always chop the straggler trees first" -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

  • @GGJiaJia

    @GGJiaJia

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @eddie48896

    @eddie48896

    2 жыл бұрын

    "I did not say that" -Sun Tzu

  • @Dominik-K

    @Dominik-K

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's always the straggler tree

  • @aralornwolf3140
    @aralornwolf31402 жыл бұрын

    "I do think chat is a real big part of Age of Empire" - T90 (After Celebrating the return of Spectator Chat)

  • @pascalm1305
    @pascalm13052 жыл бұрын

    Please do more of these. Sun Tzu has a lot more wisdoms to do something with!

  • @pubcle

    @pubcle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Personally, I think Clausewitz had a far better take, but Sun Tzu's earlier lessons are largely good as well.

  • @ANSELAbitsxb

    @ANSELAbitsxb

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pubcle I was just going to say the same thing

  • @prankishsquire2663

    @prankishsquire2663

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sun Tzu on sending armys to foreign soil is still brilliant, totally applies to AOE2.

  • @corbeau-_-

    @corbeau-_-

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pubcle it's evolution. Sun was ahead of his time and influenced basically all warfare that came after, including Tony Soprano ;)

  • @corbeau-_-

    @corbeau-_-

    2 жыл бұрын

    Clausewitz was more focused on the individuals fighting the war - making them more likely to dominate, I suppose. Sun was more into tactics and strategy - how to dominate. But perhaps that's doing them both short ;) Brilliant men.

  • @steveolotu52
    @steveolotu522 жыл бұрын

    T90 is turning into a grandfather, sharing his war stories from days passed. Nice format.

  • @colbunkmust
    @colbunkmust2 жыл бұрын

    As long as the chat isn't personal attacks, I don't see how this is bad sportsmanship. Using chat as a distraction shouldn't be considered any different than using units as a distraction. He didn't make an inherently false claim, and in a tournament adding a psychological element to the game makes the gameplay way better for the audience.

  • @synka5922

    @synka5922

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, Its a common strategy to tell your enemy false information. Totally fine. Honestly, even insulting someone to rile them up is a type of strategy, but that is bad manners. so I draw the line there :D

  • @Zaharky

    @Zaharky

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, it is on capoche to realize this base is empty and the barrack has to be somewhere (not that I would obviously). He did the right thing scouting the ennemy base, he should know better

  • @darthjump

    @darthjump

    2 жыл бұрын

    The only thing i write is GG

  • @eliasbosshard1713

    @eliasbosshard1713

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is obviously bad sportsmanship.... I am baffeled how you would consider lying to try to throw off your enemy not as bad sportsmanship. It's not part of the game and i like the fact the admin made sure for it to not happen again.

  • @colbunkmust

    @colbunkmust

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@eliasbosshard1713 What did he lie about? at the time Stark had no way of knowing if his strategy would even work and if Capoch had the game sense to scout his own space Stark's start would have been absolutely messed up. Allowing players to communicate is absolutely an integral part of the game and T90's own tournament "Hidden Cup" is literally built around using chat as a deception tool. The fact that Stark was able to capitalize on the same strat in a tournament whose competitors weren't good enough for HC makes it all the more impressive.

  • @sh0ckwavex
    @sh0ckwavex2 жыл бұрын

    The chat wasn't part of the original strategy. His idea was to wall up to hide his base but the scout got in before and saw it was empty. The chat came after that and was clearly him trying to justify his empty base.

  • @steakrag8158

    @steakrag8158

    2 жыл бұрын

    He acknowledges in the video that he only said it was apart of his strategy to make him more butt hurt and Irrational...

  • @hanshintermann1551

    @hanshintermann1551

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@steakrag8158 Are you implying that this contradicts what the person you replied to said?

  • @steakrag8158

    @steakrag8158

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hanshintermann1551 idek anymore

  • @MultiVfc

    @MultiVfc

    2 жыл бұрын

    Even if it's part of the strategy who cares? Great play

  • @martinhorvath4117

    @martinhorvath4117

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MultiVfc exactly, it didn't change Capoch's thinking of the game itself, St4rk outplayed him with the base behind his base.

  • @TheFoyer13
    @TheFoyer132 жыл бұрын

    "I meant to pick magyards" Was my favorite deception. I even used it a couple times.

  • @cyrusol

    @cyrusol

    2 жыл бұрын

    hey man

  • @theapexsurvivor9538

    @theapexsurvivor9538

    2 жыл бұрын

    *magyard

  • @onecoolswordr.r.7791
    @onecoolswordr.r.77912 жыл бұрын

    Capoch had a couple of options with the chat. One never believe your enemy and handle chat with suspicion. Two have better scouting. I think it was very fair and clever play from Stark! Very fun game, well done T90!

  • @ar1sm70
    @ar1sm702 жыл бұрын

    First of all amazing new series!! Second, I can understand the frustration from Capoch, but this wasn’t cheating. Trash talk or deception has been a part of sports since forever. It comes across as whiny when you call for an admin win. Further, it’s games like this that add spice to the game and become legends. It’s been months since the Magyard guy and we still fondly remember him. I’d go as far as to say that we need the occasional game like this! :)

  • @Mut4ntG4m3r

    @Mut4ntG4m3r

    2 жыл бұрын

    the strat was all rght, lying is not fair though. ppl are annoyed by false fouls in football aswell for example. Its just not nice, thats all.

  • @SpicyFiur

    @SpicyFiur

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Mut4ntG4m3r Lol what kind of logic is that. And fuck the backspace button keeps deleting my entire example so I won't go further into it.

  • @Eaode

    @Eaode

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Mut4ntG4m3r calling the admins on false pretenses is WORLDS apart from being misleading about your standing in the early game of AoE. If he'd called for a pause to throw capoch off, or invoked the admins wrongly, you'd have a point. But all he actually did was go "fuck im screwed". Not the same thing at all

  • @TovKafur

    @TovKafur

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually talking is foribidden during chess matches for this reason, among the others. Notably world champion Tal used his *heavy stare* for roughly same purpose, sometimes starting to just look at opponent unblinking after making some weird move. Judges had to ask him to wear dark glasses to prevent that.

  • @Eaode

    @Eaode

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TovKafur honestly this is fine. It's always silly when it has to come to that but at least a ruling like "no talking at all" is consistent. The problem in this situation is people trying to split hair over precisely what you're allowed to say, which is an unsolvable, un-rule-able problem. I think honoring the game but giving st4rk a warning was probably the right call

  • @Jade-St28
    @Jade-St282 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, capoch is a bit hot-headed so the improvised strat to rile him up turned out to work well. Also, who doesn't get suspicious when your opponent suddenly laments their weak position, that's like an instant red flag

  • @theapexsurvivor9538

    @theapexsurvivor9538

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, if you're being told that you have the game, it's probably time to start rushing for some basic military.

  • @itachicoolest
    @itachicoolest2 жыл бұрын

    This was great, not even trash talk just misdirection and not unsportsmanlike at all. The fact he was chatting could've given Capoch an idea to search for cheese but he fell for it instead so it's a gamble. great game, great analysis, and looking forward to future vids like this :D

  • @SilentHotdog28

    @SilentHotdog28

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, Capoch could have even ignored it thinking it was bait....But he chose to be salty about it.

  • @usemoarmeemz5898
    @usemoarmeemz58982 жыл бұрын

    “All warfare is based” - Sun Tzu

  • @bogdanbogdanoff5164

    @bogdanbogdanoff5164

    2 жыл бұрын

    5 seconds in, I knew this comment would be there :D

  • @lancejburns

    @lancejburns

    2 жыл бұрын

    "All warfare is based! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little more about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor."

  • @woofpotato1234

    @woofpotato1234

    2 жыл бұрын

    evil Sun Tzu be like "all warfare is cringe"

  • @timchanux

    @timchanux

    2 жыл бұрын

    This comment needs one more like to make it nice

  • @Gleidur
    @Gleidur2 жыл бұрын

    Playing mind games is a fun strategy. "I'm gonna drush you now" is just a fun little way to spice up the game. People always have the option to ignore false information and just play on like the chat box wasn't there. It would be different if St4rk taunted Capoch, kicking him while he was down. That didn't happen though. Capoch started playing a bit lax after seeing St4rk say; "I'm weak, you have the game!" which when you think about it seems quite silly to fall for.

  • @human-ft3wk

    @human-ft3wk

    2 жыл бұрын

    He did taunt him a little bit: "It's just game don't get upset".

  • @SendarSlayer

    @SendarSlayer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@human-ft3wk That Was after the "The admins are going to give this win to me. Sorry :(" though.

  • @human-ft3wk

    @human-ft3wk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SendarSlayer True, didn't see that.

  • @robertlewis6915

    @robertlewis6915

    2 жыл бұрын

    And St4rk was behind, in truth. See: score.

  • @tonyspare2468
    @tonyspare24682 жыл бұрын

    Capoch should train up his mental fortitude, too bad the admin made such a silly rule. Cool video.

  • @dharmikdesani2726

    @dharmikdesani2726

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it's a stupid rule Chat is an integral of this game and "actual war"!!

  • @krityaan

    @krityaan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dharmikdesani2726 Not sure you've realised...but playing a video game doesn't even get close to "actual war". It's a sport. Sports have rules.

  • @dharmikdesani2726

    @dharmikdesani2726

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@krityaan I know this game is nothing like war But in almost all epics you can see the impact of verbal warfare. From Britain making new treaties all over the world to fight off Nazis during World war 2

  • @dharmikdesani2726

    @dharmikdesani2726

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@krityaan Chat feature exists for a reason bro Otherwise it would just be a text box with pre written commands which you can choose and that would be it. Disabling a key feature of the game is just stupid!!

  • @brokentombot

    @brokentombot

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think it's poor sportsmanship to whine about what someone said in chat. What the hell? I learned Capoch is a baby today and will forever consider him a loser. That crap pisses me off. Shut up and play if chat is making you upset.

  • @MrShadowThief
    @MrShadowThief2 жыл бұрын

    Tbh a brazilian using "jeitinho" against an argentinian is peak sportsmanship.

  • @Joacazz

    @Joacazz

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be more precise, an Argentine enters the match against a Brazilian overconfident, until the Brazilian does a "jeitinho" that pull up his rug and then the Argentine gets mad. This is peak Brazil x Argentina relations.

  • @rnbpl

    @rnbpl

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pizarrero

  • @jowzirasheed

    @jowzirasheed

    2 жыл бұрын

    What's "jeitinho" ?

  • @afz902k

    @afz902k

    2 жыл бұрын

    Using an unconventional approach like sweet talking or deceiving to accomplish a goal

  • @diogo96

    @diogo96

    2 жыл бұрын

    a.k.a. Catimba

  • @edwinpoon
    @edwinpoon2 жыл бұрын

    Thats why when opponents chat, I get very careful and start to scout thoroughly for cheese. And it worked for more than half of games. They shld hv kept quiet instead.

  • @zeruzio1345

    @zeruzio1345

    2 жыл бұрын

    Heyyy man, I meant to pick magyard

  • @edwinpoon

    @edwinpoon

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zeruzio1345 Legend of the Liar

  • @Memphisko

    @Memphisko

    2 жыл бұрын

    Right? This is like RTS 101 lesson. Seems Capoch just thought he would not be as audacious in tourney? I think he was that much more salty because he knew he should've listened to instinct and not believed his opp.

  • @edwinpoon

    @edwinpoon

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Memphisko yup admin/referee shld hv both awarded the win and told stark that u may continue ur chat sheningans as a legit tactic.

  • @Memphisko

    @Memphisko

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@edwinpoon that would be a bold decision and I would've liked it!

  • @mowerds33
    @mowerds332 жыл бұрын

    The chatting reminds me of early Korean eSports with StarCraft: Broodwar. One of the first innovators of the game, Boxer, would chat with his opponents to distract them. The Korean ESports Association would soon ban chatting during the game to stop this distraction strategy.

  • @GuardsmanGary_Ch

    @GuardsmanGary_Ch

    2 жыл бұрын

    What a lame decision. There's nothing in the chat for starcraft that necessitates looking at. If your opponent wants to waste time typing instead if microing and macroing let them, it's entirely on yourself whether to ignore or engage with them.

  • @GuardsmanGary_Ch

    @GuardsmanGary_Ch

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Whisper0ak No thanks, that would destroy the character of the game. I started watching AoE2 commentary and starcraft 2 commentary at the same time, and even played starcraft much more intensely than I ever played AoE, yet I quickly dropped watching starcraft 2 in favour of the endless variety of AoE.

  • @theblackdragon7321

    @theblackdragon7321

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Whisper0ak Lowko is very good at casting and knows a ton about the game and starts for the game

  • @ineednochannelyoutube5384

    @ineednochannelyoutube5384

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GuardsmanGary_Ch Sure, and indeed the best idea is to just keep the chat turned off, which makes it a superfluous feature, thus its removal is warranted.

  • @legion2590
    @legion25902 жыл бұрын

    I think using the chat for deception is fine. It adds an interesting psychological element to the game. As long as people aren't getting aggressive and shit talking, then I'm okay with some deception. Frankly, Capoch could have ignored chat. It reminds me of the guy that would pretend he accidently picked the wrong civ and then show up with elephants to drop TCs 11

  • @raulfernandez57

    @raulfernandez57

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that's right, he could have ignored the chat! In fact, let's say St4rk wasn't tricking him, that for whatever reason he was truly being a noob: taking advantage of that shows even less of sportsmanship.

  • @theodentherenewed4785
    @theodentherenewed47852 жыл бұрын

    This is a brilliant strategy by Stark and it was a good decision by the tournament admin. I like Stark, he's a bit like Daut - a slower player winning games with perfect timings and decision-making. Yes, T90, this is a great content.

  • @ilikecanes
    @ilikecanes2 жыл бұрын

    This was wonderful! I really enjoyed starks explanation at the end as a little post game content. Really appreciate this content! And would love to see more of it!

  • @mcshmeggy
    @mcshmeggy2 жыл бұрын

    I literally never comment on KZread videos but this was such a great video, I'd love to see more highly produced videos like this one 👍

  • @tyquin1414
    @tyquin14142 жыл бұрын

    Huh I’ve never heard of bay. But that map does look strikingly familiar to PANTS

  • @satyakisil9711
    @satyakisil97112 жыл бұрын

    The strategy didn't involve the chat, the chat was there to hide his strategies. Think of classic Lewis Hamilton telling his crew he needs a pit even though he knows his car is perfectly fine.

  • @jemandanderes7075

    @jemandanderes7075

    2 жыл бұрын

    How did that help Hamilton, where other racers listening his radio conversations?

  • @Tom-fk5jj

    @Tom-fk5jj

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jemandanderes7075 yes the crews are listening

  • @baconboris
    @baconboris2 жыл бұрын

    I want to thank you for the angle this video took. Especially with Stark's comment at the end. It gives the message imo that even if you are below someone in MMR, you can win. You can outsmart someone stronger, you can find your own strength or a new strategy that might give you the edge. It's a hopeful message and I would like @t90 to continue with this kind of content. It's a great motivator for 99.99% of players that you can improve, and even win against better players!

  • @shigekisun3922
    @shigekisun39222 жыл бұрын

    "All warfare is based" -Sun Tsu

  • @billdewall6152

    @billdewall6152

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm stealing this. I'll report back with tales of my success.

  • @tarsisioipod
    @tarsisioipod2 жыл бұрын

    Great vid. I really like this narrative style. Also comunity games with spec chat are hilarious, more of that too, please.

  • @feralshrew
    @feralshrew2 жыл бұрын

    T90, I really appreciate the effort you put into your content. For years I've been enjoying your uploads and streams -- they've brought me excitement, laughter, insight, even warmth. You reconnected me with a game that I loved from my youth, and you've played a massive part in building the community around it and helped it grow to something really special. Thank you T90. And yeah, this video was fun and I like the idea of seeing a series like this continue.

  • @benjaminfisk7832
    @benjaminfisk78322 жыл бұрын

    Well done video. I really liked the more in depth discussion of strategy, and the story-telling mode, with less tangents and interruptions that sometimes come up when you record a twitch stream. Fun stuff. Good content.

  • @dingowingo7977
    @dingowingo79772 жыл бұрын

    I dont see anything wrong here. It isnt like Stark lied about the game being bugged, laggy or anything of that matter (he didnt abuse anything). Since this is a tournament why would Capoch go "easy" on Stark even if he had a bad start. If your opponent informs you they shot their boar with the TC, why would you change your game plan based on that info. I feel like Capoch was more angry about the sneak villager then the misleading statement.

  • @MrShadowThief

    @MrShadowThief

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also, no one forced Capoch to believe what St4rk said.

  • @guwalendo
    @guwalendo2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely keep doing it. Really like this new format, just as much as i like the regular streaming format. Your work is amazing, keep it up!

  • @evanbrugmna6940
    @evanbrugmna69402 жыл бұрын

    I love it. I feel like you could narrate anything.

  • @TrustyLicious
    @TrustyLicious2 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed the break down of this video. Usually the live commentary is enough to keep me intrigued, but when the strategy goes beyond the meta, it’s nice to get your perspective and analysis on these games.

  • @rawr4444
    @rawr44442 жыл бұрын

    32:00 im down for more like this for sure! Thank You Tristan! (and thanks to your team!)

  • @WillyMacShow
    @WillyMacShow2 жыл бұрын

    I wanna see players do whatever it takes to win. The chat should be part of the mind game

  • @nolagale
    @nolagale2 жыл бұрын

    I liked this, and I think also a series going over important historical games might be awesome as well for those of us who haven't been following the game for 20 years.

  • @TheKayzor
    @TheKayzor2 жыл бұрын

    I like this format, love seeing tactics explored with the benfit of hindsight seeing what were good decisions/tactics in the moment and how they play out.

  • @AdamStain
    @AdamStain2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like, in a strategy game like AoE there are a lot of aspects to consider, the chat being one of them. What is the difference between Stark saying "u ###### my start" and him 'deceiving' the opponent by sending a men at arms when he's actually going for archers? both can be seen as a strat and both are fair play in my opinion. Sidenote, stark saying "u ###### my start" is not very deceptive, as Capoch did win water? so? technically he did?

  • @pawel2669

    @pawel2669

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is a strategy game, as long is not hate speech or bullying it should be allowed.

  • @SchrodingerMil
    @SchrodingerMil2 жыл бұрын

    Being able to devise a strategy for a specific opponent like how St4rk did is one of the reasons I don't love Hidden Cup. It removes that portion of preparedness.

  • @Nic0Jesse
    @Nic0Jesse2 жыл бұрын

    This was an awesome example of the famous quote by Sun Tzu, would love to see more!

  • @bladactania
    @bladactania2 жыл бұрын

    Love this kind of video. Seeing these games with in depth analysis that might not be possible during live streams is beneficial and entertaining. Thanks, T90!

  • @Royal-jt9oj
    @Royal-jt9oj Жыл бұрын

    Loved seeing this :D Talking and listening to the tactics that go into games like these is so interesting to me and I can't wait to watch the rest of this series.

  • @crown9413
    @crown94132 жыл бұрын

    This remind me of Dota, one of the strongest teams is OG they won multiple tis by incorporating psychology into their strategies. Pioneered using chat and tipping to tilt their opponents while learning how to keep their cool even when they're losing really really badly. In a competition people are under a lot of pressure, if your mental state isn't on point and your opponent can exploit that you can make really bad mistakes.

  • @Rofel_Wodring

    @Rofel_Wodring

    2 жыл бұрын

    Aha but here's where that fails. It's 2021 and you can't make silly comments in a video game no more. Didn't ya get your memo? You're a terrible person if you do shit talk!

  • @maicee7603

    @maicee7603

    2 жыл бұрын

    ez game

  • @QWERTY-gp8fd

    @QWERTY-gp8fd

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Rofel_Wodring torontokyo said "Ez game" during the match with og. u do whatever it takes to win when there is 18 million usd in on the line.

  • @tylerhalley6927
    @tylerhalley69272 жыл бұрын

    I think chat could absolutely be a great and meta respected aspect of the game brings entertainment and debth so long as lines arent crossed

  • @Juanxooo94

    @Juanxooo94

    2 жыл бұрын

    wow this is textbook noobtalk lmao

  • @tylerhalley6927

    @tylerhalley6927

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Juanxooo94 thats okay we can still be friends

  • @tacetrn1581
    @tacetrn15812 жыл бұрын

    Great work T90!! Would definitely love to see more of such videos and analysis.

  • @dirkjensen935
    @dirkjensen9352 жыл бұрын

    only 10 min into the video, already loving this post match breakdown, like others I tend to have your videos on like sports while doing some other things, and it's easy to miss a detail that changes the whole game, where as here you see the strategy from start. Good format, will definitely come back for more!

  • @ignis488
    @ignis4882 жыл бұрын

    Never believes the words of your enemies - Sun Tzu, Art of Deception

  • @Luduin
    @Luduin2 жыл бұрын

    imagine not being able to chat. people nowadays are so sensitive. he wasnt rude. capoch was way salty and that was it.

  • @Redhairedviking09
    @Redhairedviking092 жыл бұрын

    Yep. I'm totally on board with this becoming a series. Great video and analysis. Keep'em coming!

  • @corsoinggestionalepolito4503
    @corsoinggestionalepolito45032 жыл бұрын

    Loved this, man! Please, do make more. The little intro with the more serious voice was amazing ahah

  • @bungalo50
    @bungalo502 жыл бұрын

    And I was just about to eat, perfect.

  • @PatasEmPauta

    @PatasEmPauta

    2 жыл бұрын

    same!

  • @minikawildflower
    @minikawildflower2 жыл бұрын

    This is a really cool concept! I love the idea of selecting games that highlight a certain aspect of strategy.

  • @AbhilakshLalwani
    @AbhilakshLalwani2 жыл бұрын

    One of your best uploads! The deeper storytelling is definitely worth it.

  • @janseidel4849
    @janseidel48492 жыл бұрын

    Great! More of this pls! Appreciate the format and your work!

  • @knives4cash
    @knives4cash2 жыл бұрын

    I demand six seasons and a movie.

  • @jeanfrancoisdutremble9022

    @jeanfrancoisdutremble9022

    2 жыл бұрын

    never had the movie..im sure if we have it its gonna be another paintball at school loll

  • @Tim_593
    @Tim_5932 жыл бұрын

    I have not watched the full thing yet, but there is a general lesson for life in Capoch´s chat: If someone else invokes a reaction (like Capoch´s overconfidence here) in you, then that is purely your reaction and any other person could react differently. It is basically an opinion. If you act any different way because of overconfidence, that is fully your decision. That means that, at best, he deceived himself and at worst, he tried to blame his reaction on someone else. I apparently get philosophical, when I am tired

  • @gregbeauclair7608

    @gregbeauclair7608

    2 жыл бұрын

    Essentially the meme "congratulations you played yourself"

  • @aevillanueva
    @aevillanueva2 жыл бұрын

    More of this! This is amazing ans so are you my friend! Great seeing you for the past 5 years!

  • @rollo71112
    @rollo711122 жыл бұрын

    This channel is top notch. I used to play AOE 2 when it first came out and have always looked back fondly at that time. I didn't realize it has had a Sopranos like return to relevance. Thank you to this channel for the amazing content. It's like hearing play by play and analysis in a boxing match. Kudos!

  • @jonynos16
    @jonynos162 жыл бұрын

    I love seeing games with chat :D. That chat strategy should be allowed, i cant believe they banned it afterwards.... Lol, if anything laming boars and sheep should be banned and not mental chat games.

  • @danonhageman1115
    @danonhageman11152 жыл бұрын

    You didn't call the map by its actual name, pants. Otherwise 10/10 content!

  • @drakehkenn
    @drakehkenn2 жыл бұрын

    Your content got me back into a game I hadn't played in a decade. This was a great video, it's as valued as any other!

  • @hendrikdetweede6190
    @hendrikdetweede61902 жыл бұрын

    Love it ! Well done the whole concept ! Looking forward to the series !

  • @joaquinbaarts4776
    @joaquinbaarts47762 жыл бұрын

    The game was good and that, but lets talk about the real thing here: how wonderfull spect chat is

  • @msginmymouth21
    @msginmymouth212 жыл бұрын

    I am proud

  • @raphaelcardoso7927
    @raphaelcardoso79272 жыл бұрын

    Casting live is fun and amazing, but this other way of casting where you break down the games and narrate it as you're telling a story is really incredible too, thank you so much T90. AOE2 is an amazing game, but it is you who make it even more and raises the bar up to infinity. Thank you

  • @AwesomeBob
    @AwesomeBob2 жыл бұрын

    Posted in your FB already for this but loved the vid! Please keep 'em coming!

  • @maestrosplinter92
    @maestrosplinter922 жыл бұрын

    New st4rk fan here. Pretty sad they banned the strat for the rest of the games

  • @aralornwolf3140
    @aralornwolf31402 жыл бұрын

    Capoch did it to himself though... he led St4rk's scout away from the shore... which allowed St4rk's villager to sneak past.

  • @apeters8
    @apeters82 жыл бұрын

    This will be my favorite series if it continues. I love this kind of analysis and it will keep me coming back for years.

  • @McVaySwifty
    @McVaySwifty2 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding analysis, please continue this series! Top quality

  • @joshblack2362
    @joshblack23622 жыл бұрын

    Thank god more aoe2!!! and not aoe4 crap 💩

  • @josephrathe4693

    @josephrathe4693

    2 жыл бұрын

    ....i liked the aoe4 crap... ☹

  • @Smaimn
    @Smaimn2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly the resolution to this situation makes the AoE2 community look bad to me. Makes Capoch and the admin look like elitist pricks. They can't handle someone using the chat function. Seriously it's a chat. Could you imagine watching sports and having none of the players ever interact with each other between plays? It's not like St4rk said anything offensive, you might be able to argue the language they used was inappropriate but that is what the auto filter is for. St4rk didn't attack Capoch personally and it looked more like St4rk claiming they themselves messed up. Capoch whining about admin wins makes them look like a sore loser and the admins changing the rules makes them look like they wanted Capoch to win and are also sore losers but couldn't come up with a legitimate reason to take the win away from St4rk. AoE2 is such a small community that this situation isn't going to effect anything, but to me as an outsider to AoE2 (but not esports in general), this makes Capoch and the admins look pathetic. I strongly doubt that chat message impacted this game in a meaningful way and if it did Capoch only has themselves to blame.

  • @jamesg2987
    @jamesg29872 жыл бұрын

    i like the commentary adds alot how things change etc keep making great content the chat adds so much along as there are no personal attacks go for it

  • @paritoast_
    @paritoast_2 жыл бұрын

    Love this format, T90. Keep it coming!

  • @HFTVChannel
    @HFTVChannel2 жыл бұрын

    This is similar to calling boar stealing "laming" as the community has grown over the years to call it. To give that strat a bad name , suggest that its lame and game ruining whilst its something that makes incredible sense in an RTS game. Being cheeky on public chat to deceive is something thats rarely done in aoe2 high elo environments, I think that's why capoch jumped the gun , it's not because its generally thought of as against the rules , its because the aoe2 community as some unspoken rules and standards like with pausing and stuff (which is a very beautiful thing on its own , im not suggesting its bad)

  • @TJanzen
    @TJanzen2 жыл бұрын

    AOE2 IS BETTER THAN AOE4!

  • @robdob22
    @robdob222 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video - looking forward to more of this series!

  • @skaughtey7199
    @skaughtey71992 жыл бұрын

    I have a very busy schedule so I basically can never catch the stream so KZread is where I watch almost exclusively. Thank you for continuing making the channel better and better!

  • @petresko1041
    @petresko10412 жыл бұрын

    Capoch is salty he got outplayed and is hoping to get a win by diqualification. There wasn't malice in St4rk's initial messages.

  • @JB-fp3fb
    @JB-fp3fb2 жыл бұрын

    Stark totally deserved the win, and I actually am kind of disappointed in the second part of the admin's ruling (about not doing it again). Neutering the game to make it more "competitive" always seemed regressive and boring to me. If anything, top players should be able to handle more possibilities, and options, and surprises than regular players in ranked games. Although I feel the same about laming, and I know a lot of people will strongly disagree there.

  • @firemyst9064
    @firemyst9064 Жыл бұрын

    I love this, an analysis of ourselves as people who play, people with emotions. I can relate a lot to both players here and in my younger days was also somewhat unstable and short of patience. Change takes years, and experience.

  • @emerson685
    @emerson6852 жыл бұрын

    "You KZreadrs have good taste." T90, your flattery is so transparent ... I'm into it.

  • @Im_Mr_Cole
    @Im_Mr_Cole2 жыл бұрын

    This is my new favorite vid, T90! Well done.

  • @TheNiksutube
    @TheNiksutube2 жыл бұрын

    That is exactly what I was searching Great content Keep the good work going

  • @albal156
    @albal1562 жыл бұрын

    Loved this video! Love the direction if this is where you are going to be going with looking at the best games and analysing what goes on in them as well as the Low Elo Legend content and the crazy community games. Could maybe do with a more definite outro at the end there I think. Also liked St4rks little explanation there at the end. Keep em coming!

  • @stunhbtaken
    @stunhbtaken2 жыл бұрын

    Great start to what seems to be a very engaging series. Looking forward to more content.

  • @Jackifictional
    @Jackifictional2 жыл бұрын

    YES! T90 I appreciate this, please more! More of this and more of AoE4 if possible, very interested in this game but got no time at the moment to play it myself

  • @generalRAAM95
    @generalRAAM952 жыл бұрын

    Loved the concept. Please, make it a series!

  • @steakrag8158
    @steakrag81582 жыл бұрын

    By far one of your best vids. Keep it up. Loved this one soooo much. Up there with that last drunk guy vid that was also amaaaaazzzing. Love the vids where chat plays into gameplay. Amaaaaazing vid. I can't stress it enough. Loved this sooooo much

  • @DratchGarou
    @DratchGarou2 жыл бұрын

    Love this content style. Please do more!

  • @arcomegis9999
    @arcomegis9999 Жыл бұрын

    St4rk successfully went for a backdoor strategy made it seemed like the gods favored him. The chat strategy is just mind games. It brings up of a reference that Zhou Yu used rumors to lure Cao Ren's troops out to smash them. This match really looked like it is inspired from the books about war in Warring States and other feudal period. You should do a series commentating and referencing such strategies.

  • @TheReallavaman281
    @TheReallavaman2812 жыл бұрын

    production on this was great m8, more please

  • @FacundoTupac
    @FacundoTupac2 жыл бұрын

    With so much content around, I don't usually watch most videos uploaded but this one got me hooked so bad! So... Yes! Please do bring more of these ❤️

  • @grimtv4374
    @grimtv43742 жыл бұрын

    This was brilliant. We need more of this man.

  • @matheustschege2038
    @matheustschege20382 жыл бұрын

    I really like the video! Nice way to tell the story of the game, at the same time giving more inputs. Please do more of this,

  • @benward3347
    @benward33472 жыл бұрын

    This was great, I liked how you talked it through. I can't play aoe2de but have the original aoe2 and age of Kings expansion and use ur strats in standard random map games

  • @just_me1232
    @just_me12322 жыл бұрын

    Yes we appreciate these type of high quality uploads , thank you

  • @ethanstewart1577
    @ethanstewart15772 жыл бұрын

    First time I have ever committed T90, that’s how much I appreciate your videos

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