The American Pilot Who Stole a P-38 Fighter Plane and Joined the Germans - A True Story
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Martin James Monti was an American pilot in World War II who committed treason when he stole a P-38 aircraft and joined the German and Italian forces. This was made using the World War II flight simulator IL-2 Sturmovik Great Battles series. Hope you enjoy! Please like, comment, and subscribe. #WorldWar2 #WWIIHistory #History #WWIIDogfights
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He certainly got off easy, as TREASON during war time is punishable by death.
@Barefoot-Bob
2 жыл бұрын
AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIS FATE
@Gun_Talk
2 жыл бұрын
Treason during any time is punishable by death.
@Barefoot-Bob
2 жыл бұрын
@@Gun_Talk RIGHT !!!
Also, for clarity, I have him labeled as a "Villian" due to how he chose to change sides, not only because of the side he chose. After going AWOL and stealing a plane of his home country in a traitorous manner, that is the methodology of a "Villian" to me. Not because he was on the Axis side, but because he was a traitor to the nation that he was native to and enlisted in.
@darthracer777
2 жыл бұрын
Well, you can be anti-communist and anti-fascist.
@nilz5909
2 жыл бұрын
I think you mean that he was traitor to the nation he was serving. In terms of nativity, being of Italian and German ancestry he had the justifications by blood to fight with his brothers
@Emily-ou6lq
2 жыл бұрын
Well , it's your choice of words.....chose them carefully. How about 'a person of questionable allegiance' Edit: *o
@RoscoesRiffs
2 жыл бұрын
Naaah. He was a turd.
@enigmawyoming5201
2 жыл бұрын
I look at it this way. How would YOU feel if some girl’s older brother beat you up because you didn’t want to date her. Would you say he was being loyal to his sister… or a real a$$hole?
This story is of personal interest and have seen it before. My dad was in the service squadron that was located near Naples from which this guy stole the P-38.
@cbrvo8440
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this guy got off easy! I expected this to end with a firing squad.
As someone who has followed many war stories of WWII, especially ones relating to aviation, I'm happy to find you have uncovered some that evaded me. Both this one and the White Lilly are brilliant examples. Thank you for your service to history!
Oh how quickly we forget hasn’t even been a hundred years and we have already forgotten what was right and what was wrong
Treason: currently only wrong when perpetrated by individual citizens, not governments against citizens.
@larmariothegupfan3370
2 жыл бұрын
wtf does that mean lmao
Ironic, since Pct. Eddie Slovak was executed for simply running from battle. Luck of the draw. Had he been posted to the Pacific theater he might have returned home a hero.
Really enjoy your content! Thank you for putting in the effort, it is greatly appreciated.
Just discovered your channel...keep it up! Good content for me... quick bite-sized pieces!!
Monti actually stole an F-5E photo-recon variant of the Lockheed Lightning. It had no armament.
Sounds great! Great improvement... Nice to hear stories that happened out of the spotlight...thanks for all you do!
Haven't been commenting and joining streams tj, but still, thank you for the content man
He was lucky he was an American and caught after the war. The British didn't mess around with traitors. They would get a fast ride to the nearest prison with a gallows.
Nice video as always
Imagine what a wolf in sheepskin P38 could do in a formation of B17s...
@HB-vi3om
2 жыл бұрын
Guido Rossi did that
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
I never knew this one great video
Great video!
Being a hero or a traitor actually depends on who wins the war in the end.
Great vídeo 👍🏻👍🏻
So many strange and interesting stories from both wars
He was lucky to avoid the death penalty. Ten years is a small price to pay when so many others were executed during and after the war for lesser offenses.
Very interesting story I have heard many stories like this from world war 2
That was extremely interesting, however as a war fighter myself, this guy was a excellent lier and had taken a oath, pledge as a officer, that meant nothing to him. There's no telling, the lives lost and confusing created by him. Good video and the Fog of war.
Neat story, thank you.
Maybe you can do an air battle or two involving "The Flying Tigers?"
Love tj3 vids. Been here sence 5k
@TJ3
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
Any idea what's with the picture of him in uniform with both E5 (Sergeant) stripes and Captain's bars?
Well done ✅
I swear Martin Monty was my ex-father-in-law. He was a real bastard!
Never heard this story. It’s a bazaar story and seems unbelievable.
Interesting story.
The author, Ezra Pound, also fled the US for Italy, where he supported Il Dice!
To think this guy was a year younger than me when he did this…wow. He was a kid who kind of knew better but let his stupidity get the better of him probably only because he liked the adrenaline rush…
Father Charles Coughlin pronounced his surname "KOG-lin."
@ThatsMrPencilneck2U
2 жыл бұрын
My mother hated Father Coughlin. Seeing this Nazi sympathizer was a big fan reinforces my confidence that I was taught right from wrong by somebody who knew the difference.
@keirfarnum6811
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatsMrPencilneck2U 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Wow!!! We are a merciful people! Great video.
Great..
Well, the Germans must have noticed that the P-38 was not diving fast and shooting its machine guns, but rather, the P-38 was slowly descending with the landing gear extended for a landing! So, come right ahead!
And I’m sure with the meticulous record keeping by the Germans it probably wasn’t hard to track the Aircrafts history
“Conversate?” You mean “converse.”
Young people are so easily brain washed by adults. "Join the Axis !? yes, become a modern Legionary.."
Back then, the FBI had to to a little bit more than simply look through your twitter account.
Wow information can really help person like me I am follower of ww2 history and I never heard of this man or American pilot doing this , what I can say America is country good at covering them tracks of atrocities in wars around the world.
He simply take off to Germany with a P 38 that no one attempt to shot them and ok ?
must have been a Italian
Fair Enough: If you mean what you say, we’ll await your similar condemnation of Herman Hess
Blue2 P-38 Pacific Fighter Pilot interview: @
Sounds like a true coward to me.
Maybe he found out the truth.
Benedict Arnold
"conversate"?
‘Conversate’ is not a word
@TJ3
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mom
First pod cast
He wanted to serve a better master!
@joshuamanwell5514
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah one a whole lot better at mass murder and killing innocent civilians because of race religion or disabilities
Hey you didn’t even tell us what his verdict or sentence was!!
@TJ3
2 жыл бұрын
Hey! I believe I said in there he was sentenced to 25 years after being found guilty of treason.
conversate..no such word. it's 'converse'.
Conversate? Really? You might want to thinkify about your usingness of that word.
@TJ3
2 жыл бұрын
I shall not.
Damn, what a fraud, fake, weak sauce traitor he was. Reminds me of what's going on today.
@HGQjazz
2 жыл бұрын
@Jerry Davis Nonkonforme Patrioten!!!
@keirfarnum6811
2 жыл бұрын
@Jerry Davis Thank you for supporting President Biden!
Bravo . He Is A hero in fair ، Cavaliers And Gentlemans front
@keirfarnum6811
2 жыл бұрын
👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
@major_kukri2430
2 жыл бұрын
Lol he's a traitor to the free world.
I wonder if you call the Germans who defected to Allied as 'villain' too.
@worldchampion8888
2 жыл бұрын
No we called them heros!!!!. I am part German but the Nazi empire was very evil. It HAD TO BE DESTROYED!!!!! My Dad was in WW2. He lost a lot of friends!!! They should of killed him!!!!!! GOOD FOR THE FBI!!!!!! I cannot believe that they did not KILLED HIM!!!!!!
@jacobjonm0511
2 жыл бұрын
@@worldchampion8888 Hero for which side though? someone who backstabs his comrade is not a hero.
@worldchampion8888
2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobjonm0511 Wrong. You need to god back and reread what I have all ready written. It explains everything.
@jacobjonm0511
2 жыл бұрын
@@worldchampion8888 NAZIs we sick but Allied were not much better. You being part German does not mean you are right. Also pilots were soldiers and not politicians. German pilots were trying to stop the bombardment of their cities.
@worldchampion8888
2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobjonm0511 The Allies were ALOT better. That is why we had the Russians, British,Canadian,Australias, Greeks, Turks, Mexicans,Chineses,and other countries on our side. THE NAZI MACHINE HAS TO BE DESTROYED COMPLETELY!!!!!!. And YES I AM RIGHT!!!!
What most people don't know is that both AH and BM introduced a lot of benifits for the middle class. That even today the usa doesn't have. At the time the german people had many advantages over other countries. It would be easyto see whypeople would change sides. Don't get me wrong, I am a big supporter of the US constitution and believe that it keeping the rest of the worldat bay
Everything being relative.............if it was a German pilot gone over to the Americans .....he would be a HERO !
@lllIIIlIllIIll
2 жыл бұрын
History is written by the victors. That's how it's always been.
@denisrobertmay875
2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of Luftwaffe defected to the British, disenchanted with the Nazi regime. Some of them brought the latest German night fighter radar technology.
@joshuamanwell5514
2 жыл бұрын
Well that and the Nazis were you know uhhhhhhh not the best of humans sooooo yeah
Looking at the state of the US now, Im sure he didnt regret it lmao.
@keirfarnum6811
2 жыл бұрын
That’s dumb. The Nazis were evil.
@AyataHiragi
2 жыл бұрын
@@keirfarnum6811 Yes yes, and global warming is real.
@BadWolf762
2 жыл бұрын
@@keirfarnum6811 That's what Hollywood has been telling us for 80 years.
and the good ole Brits executed Lord Ha Ha, and American citizen. All yard sticks don't necessarily have 36 inches..
"We were good but now we're bad"
@ThatsMrPencilneck2U
2 жыл бұрын
I wish that wasn't as true as it is.
@joshuamanwell5514
2 жыл бұрын
Sad to see how many people here think he went from bad to good how quick we forget
Teej, I love ur videos but conversate is not a word, it is converse.
He just tried to join german nazis because he thought that the germans would had win the war! as time goes by he witnessed the germans are going to loss and surrendered he's change side again hahaha twist read!
A true hero of the sky
@samkangal8428
2 жыл бұрын
But somehow he couldn't make a desicon ,he was loyal to no side .
@nilz5909
2 жыл бұрын
@@samkangal8428 yeah his decision to go to the Axis side was heroic but was not willing to defend his actions after defeat. Half a hero I guess.
@samkangal8428
2 жыл бұрын
Yes ,he betrayed both sides .
@joshuamanwell5514
2 жыл бұрын
Y’all are disgraces to the human race
@nilz5909
2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuamanwell5514 On the contrary
If Germany won the world would not be this dirty there would be law and order
@major_kukri2430
2 жыл бұрын
Sure. Keep dreaming.
A great man and an ace. I haven´t heard of this amazing man until now. There actually existed heroes from USA, but he was one of the very few. Long Live Martin James Monti!
The Germans would have been happier receiving a P-51 or P-47 as they had no trouble against a P-38.
@felixropke9777
2 жыл бұрын
They had more than enough P47, P51 or P38 at the Luftwaffen Erprobungsstelle Rechlin.
Looking back we would have been better off having Germany win.
He knew the war was a banker's war.
How can you be a traitor when you fight for what you love ?
@enigmawyoming5201
2 жыл бұрын
I look at it this way. How would YOU feel if some girl’s older brother beat you up because you didn’t want to date her. Would you say he was being loyal to his sister… or a real a$$hole?
@formerparatrooper
2 жыл бұрын
He took an oath with the side he was on to begin with. In today's economy the oath means nothing as the governing elite do not understand covenants. The fact is that he was not unlike a modern political player who do not take the oath seriously and most are getting away with treasonous acts that will eventually put this nation of America in bondage. In your economy if you really believe what you write here, I wouldn't trust you out of sight, certainly not in a military unit.
@samkangal8428
2 жыл бұрын
@formerparatrooper 2 This guy was a coward .He betrayed the US ,and the Germans too . I'm loyal to the things i believe in .
@samkangal8428
2 жыл бұрын
@Enigma Wyoming I think ya can't compaire that . I'm a Jerry with a Dad from North George . I seved in the Bundeswehr but knowing i would never ever raise arms against the US .In case a war like this would happen again i can't see a solution for me .
@formerparatrooper
2 жыл бұрын
@@samkangal8428 Did you ever take the oath of a soldier, sailor or marine? Do you KNOW what that means? You can believe in a whole lot of things but if you take an oath you are obligated to perform under that covenant. Lots of people today believe that they are doing the right thing but betraying their oath to served, look at the foundational demoncrate party and you can see the godlessness right in front of you.
Ah yes, the American Wehraboo.
Perhaps he was just a very intelligent and perspicacious gentleman who could discern the real villains of WWII. Perhaps he wondered why on Earth his fellow Americans were fighting alongside the Bolsheviks, who had committed genocidal murder of tens of millions of innocents in Russia and Ukraine before the war. Perhaps he saw through all the wartime propaganda and decided that he wanted to fight with the good guys.
@samkangal8428
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe ,but he cowardly left them in the lurch too.
@benitogutierrez81
2 жыл бұрын
We was fighting alongside the Russian we join forces to defeat a common enemy Germany or Hitler, that cost Patton his life, He didn't trusted or liked the Russians he wanted to continue fighting the Russians after the war ended
@samkangal8428
2 жыл бұрын
@ Bennito Gutirrez Yes ,and Patton was damm right .
@keirfarnum6811
2 жыл бұрын
He was a traitor to the United States of America. The Bolsheviks weren’t great (as evidenced by the Cold War), but the Nazis were worse.
He had integrity. And he didn't want to fight and die for the benefit of Bolshevism. He's a hero. Martin James Monti!
@keirfarnum6811
2 жыл бұрын
GFY.
@major_kukri2430
2 жыл бұрын
You're just a fascist sympathizer. He's a traitor and was lucky enough to lie his way out of being shot.
@hansgruber650
Жыл бұрын
And who supported Bolshevism in two wars, liberators?
@saintadolf5639
Жыл бұрын
@@hansgruber650Excuse me, but WTF are you talking about? Are you talking about how the USA propped up the Bolsheviks during ww2 with untold billions and billions of dollars worth of military equipment and supplies.
@hansgruber650
Жыл бұрын
@@saintadolf5639 You have no clue it appears, try reading, if you can'"t have someone research and read it to you, Dumkopf.
Villain wtf makes him a villain ... 😡
@nilz5909
2 жыл бұрын
The side he chose lost, that makes him the villain
@darthracer777
2 жыл бұрын
You can be anti-communist and anti-fascist. It's not either or.
@nilz5909
2 жыл бұрын
@@darthracer777 True but ineffective. Fascism is the spearhead in the war against communism while also fighting the soul-corrupting properties of capitalism.
@nilz5909
2 жыл бұрын
@Redsand That's communism.
@bobjohnbowles
2 жыл бұрын
@@nilz5909 I don't think you understand fascism, or for that matter communism either. Fascism is not 'the spearhead in the war against communism' - far from it. It is an affront to democracy that seeks to roll back 2000 years of history for the enrichment of a small minority. It manipulates people by creating false enemies, like 'commies', 'immigrants', 'vagrants', 'colourds', 'jews', 'muslims'. It distracts people from the inevitable economic woes of their rule with these straw men, encouraging civil unrest and international wars. Sound familiar?
He was a democrat.
I am Greek who says that if was bourned in US i would be American?My blood is Greek,it does not mutter the Country i would be bourned.He was no traitor he was a brave man who loved his nation.Native American because he was bourned in US?
@samkangal8428
2 жыл бұрын
I agree ,your no traitor when you fight for what you love ,but i woulden't call him brave.
@benitogutierrez81
2 жыл бұрын
I was a United States citicen when I came here from Puerto Rico, but I became a north american when I have toiled with the real people of this country for the last 50 years, since the viet nam conflict. Unlike Obama he is a citicen of the USA. but never an American because he grew up in Kenya and was actually born in Hawaii that don't make him an American!!
he never got a chance to vote for Trump.
Jesus is Lord
The smartest american of all time