The SOC percentage will drop to about 95 percent in E-Save mode to allow some room for the regenerative braking to add power back into the battery. If it held at 100 percent the friction brakes would have to do all the braking since there would be no capacity in the battery for the power to go. I'm basing this on how my Wrangler Rubicon 4xe operates.

Retired ad agency guy here. I worked on the launch of the new Cherokee (XJ) for the 1984 model year. Beautiful vehicle and loved the utilitarian flair, Bought it under the supplier plan for, I think, just under $10K. These new Cherokees are too expensive, too complicated for some. There's a market for a more stripped down/utility version of these vehicles that's been under-served.

@VMAFIA

2 жыл бұрын

I agree but on the flip side no ones forcing us to buy these (yet at least) we can still get a pretty nice XJ for under 10k in 2022 dollars and if you think about it that's a pretty good deal. I just look at these as what we'll have to choose from in 10 to 20 years from now. It will definitely be interesting to see how all these electric vehicles hold up over time

@2010challengerRT

2 жыл бұрын

gonna have to agree. 75k US is insane. Don't get me wrong, I like the new Grand Cherokee. It's a nice bodystyle and I'd even be good with the hybrid. But the way they are priced and configured, it's a hard pass for me. If I could get one with no extra screens, ordinary cloth seats, a normal radio, no air suspension etc. for under 40k it might be worth a look.

@VMAFIA

2 жыл бұрын

@@2010challengerRT You can probably get one like that for around 40k if you want two wheel drive lol. Car companies are pricing new buyers out of the new market and making used cars go up. Which is how I think it should be. Theres nothing wrong with driving an old car and there should be more value placed on fixing an old car rather then totalling it for insurance purposes. Any if they sell less vehicles but make the same money why wouldn't they do it? The only people this may hurt is new car dealerships.

@CrumResearch

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, there is a need for similar new vehicles for much lower price! Pro Power Onboard outlets, please.

@ckm-mkc

2 жыл бұрын

The Kia Sportage Hybrid its 1/2 the price and likely more reliable...

I just got the Wrangler 4xe for 60 before tax credit. I like it and getting 35+ mpg during commute. Just wish range was a little higher in ev mode.

Any vehicle that can double in price with "options" is completely ludicrous

@matthewmuellner

2 жыл бұрын

Comes with astroglide

@Mdan7

2 жыл бұрын

Ram doubles down on your comment and can be almost triple the base price with options. Try optioning out a base V6 Ram, and then go Cummins, Limited. Let me know!

@CrumResearch

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. In style of Porsche and Land Rover.

@GuacPapi

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mdan7 the ram barely doubles. The f150 goes from 29k to 79k

@polybiuschampion7225

Жыл бұрын

Don’t ever shop for a Porsche

I guess a lot changed over the last few months. Two weeks ago, I got a $70k 4xe GC Trailhawk off the lot. Leased it for $775/month with $2k down. Did I pay sticker? Heck, no! LOL! Total discounts/incentives: $12,000 ($1k manufacturer incentive, $3.5k dealer rebate plus $7.5k federal EV incentive). This is VERY competitive these days if you ask me.

@ktpinnacle

Жыл бұрын

Truth. There are places offering 10% off a loaded 4xe these days if you're willing to travel. That plus the tax incentives of $7500+ brings the effective cost way down. You don't see that with Land Rovers and some of the higher end competition. Plus the cost of maintenance and repairs (for people that elect to hold these for a while) is not close.

@kristopheraknight

10 ай бұрын

$800 a month for a LEASE

I had a non 4xe 22 new body grand Cherokee 2 row from February to June and drove it 12k miles including across country and the worst thing about these things if anyone is wondering is the air conditioner is completely underpowered and takes 20 minutes to really keep you cool on days over 90 degrees which we have had almost all summer in the south. The ac also completely drained every bit of power from the engine when it was on. On top of that the vents are positioned too far from your face so you barely feel the air hitting you unless the fan is on high. Other than that it was excellent but living with long hot summers I would never buy one again.

@explorer197020

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Assuming that RAM uses the same systems....I have a '21 Crew Cab. If over 85° outside, I have to KEEP it on the lowest possible temp (LO) and max a/c setting just to be comfortable. Anything over 90° and you're crap out of luck.

@Jay-bw3fl

2 жыл бұрын

@@explorer197020 dang that sucks but that’s good to know because now I won’t be considering the ram for my next truck after I get tired of this gladiator I swapped the grand Cherokee for. At least the ac is freezing cold in the gladiator even if it is insanely underpowered, thirsty and cramped lol

I just bought mine 5 days ago. It has been AMAZING! I do a lot of highway driving and it has been amazing. Can't state that enough. It's expensive, but with the dealer incentives, EV tax rebates, a trade-in (traded in my 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited V8). All-in-all, I walked out the door paying $56k. In town, it doesn't use any gas, so I've rolled around and didn't use any gas.

4xe with V8 and 35 kWh battery would be sweet! we need that

11:00 while it is nice they have the charger included, having it in bin on the side as opposed to under the floor would probably be better. simply because if one is charging this thing often, a bin on the side is a "daily accessible cubby" and a bin under the floor is a "seldom access cubby" simply because most people tend to have a bunch of stuff in their cars, and getting to the underfloor storage can be a bit of a pain. it's a small thing, and I wouldn't really worry about it till the next gen.... provided the next gen isn't 10 years out.

@-Jethro-

2 жыл бұрын

Most people would leave the charger plugged in at home so it can be used every night.

Thanks. I'm thinking of ordering an Overland with the Offroad package. I suspect the 3.6 would be better for me as it would do a lot of road trips, but the 4xe is interesting.

@FloridaWildlife1

Жыл бұрын

The 4xe has more power/better fuel economy than the 3.6 even if never plugged in.

I think Chrysler has lost their minds on some of their vehicle pricing. With that price in canada youre looking at almost 100k. That's insane. Im ao glad i bought my last vehicle before all the manufacturers went nuts with their msrps.

Why would anyone buy this over a new BMW X5, Lexus GX, Tahoe, etc.? The pricing of vehicles in this class has gotten absolutely insane, especially when a high trim one is more expensive than even a mid-range luxury vehicle in the same class.

Have Tommy put it on the rollers to test the slip of the 4WD system and lockers please.

Great looking SUV, I prefer Jeep to "premium" brands. Don't long for the extra status or prestige. A base model with just a few options for 45k seems a good deal. Hope it has lots of warranty.

Are comparable EVs worth $75,000? I mean, compared to an EV, it is worth it. A Rivian R1S starts at about $75,000, but the Rivian has all the issues that go with EVs. The Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe can do 90% of daily driving in 100% EV mode, but you don't have the same range anxiety for long trips because it's also a gas hybrid. For most people, that is clearly an advantage. Basically, with the Jeep, you have most of the benefits of a full EV, but none of the drawbacks for the same money.

@ckm-mkc

2 жыл бұрын

The Kia Sportage Hybrid is $37k, the PHEV is more but not out yet.

@driverman8615

Жыл бұрын

What kind of hiighway milage do you get?

Who can afford any of these vehicles anymore??? So far the only new vehicles you've shown on your channel this year that are affordable are the Maverick and Tommy's Jeep . Thats it! Everything else is out of reach to 90% of your viewers.

@atg1338

2 жыл бұрын

Some dealers are getting 50g for the maverick

@GulyasGuy

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, BUT I’d rather watch this content and be inspired to afford it, than watch a review of a base trim Chevy impala.

@B86432

Жыл бұрын

People that don't use them as they intended lol

@B86432

Жыл бұрын

@@atg1338 I've seen mid to high 40s by me lol

@B86432

Жыл бұрын

@@GulyasGuy lol this content has zero impact on a purchase we had car mags for half a century

can this be used like a hybrid, the engine will recharge the battery or is it only plug in?

Love you Tommy awesome job

The “Whoa whoa whoa, stop!” Gave me flash backs to when I was first driving with my dad! Lol

Thanks for the review. I have been debating about getting one for my wife. Probably going to wait a few years for better battery and lower price.

Where did you get it? It is configured exactly as I want but different color. Your sticker had off-road package and I couldn’t even order that. Did your electronic reset diff get deleted like most? I ordered 2 months ago and not a peep out of Jeep yet. 😢

Neither fish nor fowl. Too expensive for a Jeep, and getting into luxury car pricing without the luxury car cachet. Ooof. 75k for a Jeep Grand Cherokee! Depreciation will kill anyone who actually buys this vehicle at that price.

Currently driving a rental Limited 4xE. My first experience with an electric vehicle. Thought I’d do some research. Thanks for making this video.

I’m confused…….what is mpg in hybrid mode? NOT ev mode. It doesn’t make sense compared to v6 mpg

I understand targeting more of the luxury market but I don’t understand leaving previous customer base behind. For people interested in off-road, piano black is not luxury… This is obviously very important vehicle and I’ve enjoyed many road trips made in 2013 Loredo. To bad it was too wide for Japanese roads ;)

Is there an on road test coming ? Also mpg test ?

Vehicle pricing is differently gone up my 2021 Rubicon 4xe cost $64,000 and now $68,000 or so !!! but I love it , it's a keeper !!!!

For that price it should have a 30kw battery so at least 99% of driving would be electric and savings on gas would even out the cost over 3-5 year ownership. I hope that if/when they do a Ram 1500 plug in it will have a 30kw battery or larger. Otherwise, the EV portion would be almost worthless.

@williamdrijver4141

2 жыл бұрын

And over the years the EV range also decreases, so this 14 kWh battery already is too small. Some other brands do better with 24 to 32 kWh battery packs, but are probably even more expensive.

Tommy Nailed It!

Love GC…but the quality is challenged in the new life cycle. On GCL #2 and still electrical issues. Hope in the 4xe you dont experience electrical issues.

$75,000+ for a Jeep Grand cherokee? Thats absolutely ridiculous I hope no one buys these at that price, like almost all vehicles it will most certainly loose value over time. Also why does Roman seem so grumpy these days, come on it was just a drink in the cup holder I thought this was a real world review 😄

@watchreport

2 жыл бұрын

I thought Roman was just being silly, didn’t think he was being grumpy.

@TheGecko213

2 жыл бұрын

I would buy it as a CP-O after one or two years

I tried to build a '23 Overland and as far as I could tell it isn't offered w the off-road group pkg. anymore. Surely this isn't correct ?!!!

None of these EV's are worth the asking price.

As a Jeep Grand Cherokee owner myself, I'd love to see them bring the cost down by simplifying the hybrid system a bit. For example, the starter/generator in the transmission is there, but they also have a more traditional starter attached to the engine for cold starts. I'd also sacrifice some of the battery capacity to bring the costs down. The electrical system is also probably too complicated. When they refine this setup, it could really be a good way to go, especially if gas producers start blending net-zero fuels into their mix.

I think these plug ins would be better with around 50+ miles of electric range. The X5 45e is almost there with about 44 miles of range. With charging whilst away from the vehicle in the day you could do 100 mile round trips.

I like the look a lot, but just can't wrap my brain around the idea of a 75k GC that's not something bonkers like a Trackhawk. Love the new look & interior, just can't see the value. One would probably be dollars ahead just by buying the 3.6 version, or if this came just with the 2.0 turbo. As far as the range, if one has a under 10 mi commute, this would be great for them because they would hardly ever have to put fuel in it. I have a friend who has such a commute. However, since she drives so little, she has no desire for a nice (expensive) car, she's doing this commute in a 15-year-old Dodge Avenger that probably still has less than 100K miles on it.

Great video although expensive vehicle a very great video

Does it have any 110v inverters?

Nice video. I’m gonna have to agree a lot of your comments. I work for a C.D.J. R dealership and have to be careful on how I represent the product.

I hope Ford brings a plug in hybrid to the Bronco’s, Ranger’s, Maverick’s Bronco sport’s & F-150’s

@CrumResearch

Жыл бұрын

winning strategy and natural development, I'd say

I actually appreciate the 120v regular plug! More applicable for home/apartment charging, really all one needs for daily charging a PHEV and its better for the battery.

Need a record button on the night vision for those Colorado Sasquatch encounters…🍻

I average about 28 mpg !!!, for me 21-27 on electric worked out really well !!!

It is always a hybrid when the battery is so called “dead”. Some battery is reserved for hybrid…never actually on gas only unless you choose to!

Back in the day .. the important options were “air, cruise, tilt”. Later safety features became important. We had just as much opportunity to live happy lives with those features as we do today. In my humble opinion, we should choose to spend less on vehicles. I look forward to plug-in hybrids being offered on entry level vehicles.

My 2018 Grand Cherokee was 51k msrp. Now the vehicle is out of my price range. A defender configured to my spec was about 68k. 4Runner is about 51k. Why would I get another Jeep?

@richrobb2322

6 ай бұрын

Cause it can be flat towed

There is a sweet 5-speed Isuzu Trooper on bringatrailer. You guys should snag it and run it through all your tests. Maybe Nathan could buy it “for his wife”.

75k seems mighty steep. Might as well pony up and get a Wagoneer at that point, no?

I love my 23 Overland 4XE. This is my 4th Grand. All fantastic, never had an issue. When I took the new one out first time, I was very impressed. I thought I was in a Range Rover. Why to pay 1100.00 to lease a RR, if I can ride this for 500 lease. The quietness, seats, air ride, comfort, tech and the Plug-In is a plus for me riding one way to work all electric. Just a great car. However, I did only 24 months lease just to make sure I like the plug-in concept. One thing I do recommend, install a level 2 charger. Level 1 is too long!!!!!

When will the hurricane engine come out? Will the Grand Cherokee get the hurricane engine?

@gdwinco

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the hurricane is targeted for the Waggoner’s to get rid of their V8s. Fleet economy is driving jeep. The 3.6 has been terribly underpowered for years in the wranglers, gladiator’s. Once you add big tires and aftermarket upgrades the engine is a reliable slug.

What a shame Jeep have done it again...made a decent enough car but mistaken it for something in the bracket above! Sure it's an improvement but the trouble is, all of their competitors have moved on even further. Just sit in an Audi or a BMW and feel the tactile difference, and as for the new Range Rovers....wow! Here in the UK Jeep had to offer huge discounts to shift the last GC which was actually a decent car but wildly overpriced. Price the latest GC alongside maybe a base Q5 or LR Discovery Sport and maybe they might sell. We live in hope!!

Get them while you can because ev's are a fad. The ICE isn't going anywhere anytime soon

$70,000+ 😂

Ill stick with my 1988 f150 4x4 diesel gets 30mpg highway thanks to how I have it setup

I like the design but if was for me, V8 just plain Hemi meet me at 60k

Baltic gray paint..well I'm from Baltic (Estonia)..guess getting a gray paint named after a region is better then nothing ;)

So it's gas and electric And you can pick what mode That's awesome 👌

I would get the trailhawk over the overland

The gc trailhawk is now 15k more than the last one lol

I bought my 2014 JGC Eco-Diesel 4x4, Summit (top trim) new. At that time MSRP was $57k+. I paid $42k and change for it. So don't be a millennial, and negotiate like a boomer ;)

I'll keep my 2011 hemi grand Cherokee limited

If you do a ROI you’ll see that $75K is too much. However, if you compare it to a Land Rover Sport that’s a much better option. I love Jeep, I’ve had 3 during my car life but $75K is way high.

Only the ignorant would pay $75k for that. It’s a 50k Overland at best with a hybrid system that will pay for itself in never years. I have never gotten less than 20% off sticker on a GC, and I’ve had 7 of them. And yes Tommy, it doesn’t feel like a MBZ or BMW because it’s a Jeep, a good mainstream vehicle, not a high quality German luxury vehicle.

@Welcometofacsistube

2 жыл бұрын

High quality and German in the same sentence is an oxymoron

@robb5516

2 жыл бұрын

@@Welcometofacsistube I have been diving Porches, BMWs, and MBZs all my life. Never a single issue or repair needed. I always own a Jeep at all times as well for winter and hauling crap. Every one has had multiple failures within their 3 year lease periods. But they discount them so much off sticker that it’s a cheap ride in exchange for warranty repairs. Would never drive one off warranty.

@Rob-md2cj

Жыл бұрын

@@robb5516 I’m on my second GC (a 2020 5.7 High Altitude) and also had Mercedes and bmw. What has always made Jeep a great buy is you could get a lot of premium stuff on it (air suspension, strong engines like a V8, state of the art safety features) and still be in a reasonable price range. I was talking to the sales manager at a large Jeep dealer the other night and he thinks they killed the V8 option on the GC too soon. I do too. Stellantis’ CEO has been complaining recently that the cost of making an EV is just too high to make a profit. Well, it’s vehicles like the 4XE that is the result. Cost cutting on the product (stupid low range) combined with a high purchase price.

Very nice for sure but who is Jeep targeting? My daughter has started shopping and loves this model, however, she with her fiancee (having a combined annual income of 220K plus)...and still can't justify 75K. It really is out of control

This might be worth the price if it was fully electric. Paying $75k and still dealing with gas is a no from me.

@96kylar

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, you want to drive it dont ya?

I feel like every vehicle Chrysler currently makes with the exception of the charger and challenger are massively overpriced for what you are getting. You can get better vehicles from other companies for the same price or less.

@Welcometofacsistube

2 жыл бұрын

Oh? Name some

@Rickster8800

2 жыл бұрын

@@Welcometofacsistube for trucks both Chevy and Ford have much nicer interior and displays than Ram, also minus the electrical issues. Ford also has nicer interior and power train options in their suv offerings for the price. For what the Grand Cherokee and Wagoneer are going for both Audi and VW have better equipped models for the cost. The Challenger and Charger offerings give you a lot of bang for your buck when it comes to performance, I would venture to say there are only a few other options that could give you what they do for the price in terms of ICE cars. Their other offering however don't really justify the cost. There are better hybrids and other than the Hemis their power trains are lackluster. The 3.6 is decent for what it is. The ZF 8 speed is great but the weird 9 speed they use in some of the jeeps is total trash. Not sure exactly when it started but for a few years now all the jeeps, the durango, and the mid to high trim rams seem to have asking prices way above what you are getting for that money.

Let’s hope this one is not as unreliable as my wrangler 4xe

It does not get 56 MPGe as a combination of running on the battery and gas engine combined! Read the fine print, it says on the Monroney label under MPGe: 0.0 gallons per 100 miles/58 kWh per 100 miles. MPGe is a laboratory comparison of gasoline energy and electric energy. Burning one gasoline produces 115,000 BTUs of heat and to produce the same amount of heat using electricity takes 33.7 kWh. So how far will this car go on 33.7 kWh of electricity? That's its MPGe. What has this got to do with economy I don't know. I think this number helps to suck people into accepting EVs. It seems to work better in the lab than in real life. This number is really only good for comparing one plug-in car to another plug-in car when running on electricity only. If you want to know how efficient any car is do the cost to go 100 miles. Make sure you use the true price of electricity, by including all the fees, surcharges, taxes, etc. that the power company adds to the actual price of the kWh you use and if you use public charging don't forget any fees they may tack on to the kWh paid for.

Where's the plug?

Used car prices are going down quick already, which will be followed my new car prices and people will stop making payments like during the housing market crash, this bubble will burst soon- high prices like this is contributing.

Somebody’s grumpy today…

Nice😎

4xe with V8 and 35 kWh battery would be sweet! L3 charging like Range Rover PHEV, too. Roman's point is good, we haven't added gas to our Rubicon 4xe since May.

@96kylar

2 жыл бұрын

So, you dont drive it,.. check

@CrumResearch

2 жыл бұрын

@@96kylar Electric Mode, mostly! Gas engine is always there when needed, though, that's the beauty of 4xe (PHEV). Yes, I can charge at the office, for free. Occasionally use free public Level 2 chargers as well, when it happens to fit in with our schedule, and it is a bit of a game to use only electric mode when running errands.

@Rob-md2cj

Жыл бұрын

@@CrumResearch how long does it take for you to get a full charge from empty? I hope not more than an hour or so.

@CrumResearch

Жыл бұрын

@@Rob-md2cj Check out the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV and the Range Rover Sport PHEV if you are interested in PHEVs with fast charging. Nice examples. Level 1 and 2 charging is slower, like 1 kW to 7 kW rates which can be just fine for overnight or at some destinations, there are many free L2 J-1772 chargers at public places as seen using PlugShare. 17 kWh / 7 kW = 2.42 hr, easy to calculate.

waiting for Trex to crash into that roof.....

This is a $45,000 dollar vehicle. You can pull its entire center console apart with one hand.

Looked at one of these, it was far too expensive, bought a diesel F-Pace for 1/2 the price with better gas mileage....

Yeh, paid $38k for my 2020 4x4 altitude, $60k for 4xe why over priced just to get hybrid. Love Jeep but looking at other manufacturers.🤔

The prices of vehicles (New) are getting outrageous. This is a 50k vehicle

It's not a ev if it has a gas engine in it

To much tech just asking for more problems the dealers can’t fix no thanks I will stick with my gas vechicles.

Couldn’t agree with Tommy more. A bit too pricey and the electric range too low

Vehicle prices have gone out of control in this economy.

These will be heavily discounted in a few months when no one buys them just like the wagoneers are. The dealer by my house has wagoneers advertised for $8000 off msrp right now. That’s pre COVID style lol

No Chrysler product is worth 75k.

@Welcometofacsistube

2 жыл бұрын

SiT DoWn cHilD

The Hyundai palisade has plastic on the bottom of the doors too yet y’all called that a Mercedes. Biased at its best.

100 ev miles would be perfect

Too bad the small, actually efficient 4xes aren't in North America :(

That doesn't make any sense. In Hybrid mode, it should recharge intelligently and still get better gas mileage than an ICE.

Still love my Diesel Grand Cherokee!

You also have to be rich enough to afford a house so you can charge it.

Terribly overpriced. Just not cool enough to justify the price.

@GuacPapi

2 жыл бұрын

Any vehicle that can double In price with "options" is completely ludicrous

You don't mention how expensive electric is now....

$55k to $65k Should be price range

Tommy looks different.

Stupid expensive and impractical, 2 litre engine for that weight is just dumb, the 3litre diesel was a simpler and much better option

No thanks please give us the hurricane engine. Until then I am content with my palisade

I agree with Tommy, this suv ain't worth $75k

Why cant Ford make an interior like this????

Guess "cool" is a different meaning for all. Edit also, do you guys have paid bots? Several of the exact same comments. V8 with 35kw battery would be sweet, and the 3 , meet me at 60k. Shits so odd.

@watchreport

2 жыл бұрын

That’s just KZread with bots and spammers these days. It’s nuts.

There is no Jeep product worth a penny over $60K. Unbelievable the amount of ignorance people have thinking this vehicle and countless other Brands / Models thinking they are worth these ridiculous prices. Fools paying Foolish prices.