Definitely do more mini PCs with Oculink. The Oculink really sells these things being able to upgrade later on, like a regular PC, but with a smaller footprint and lower power consumption.

@autoscopy

3 ай бұрын

Someone needs to make an oculink dock. You have to build your own currently.

@dlewis9760

3 ай бұрын

Every PC with a port that can have external video cards, should be tested by the KZreadr. It's part of the PC. It should be tested to show what it offers for that PC. An assumption that it will "just work" is just that, an assumption.

@freedomisdead9638

3 ай бұрын

Agree, i wanted to buy a Minisforum UM780 XTX because of its Oculink port, but i think Minisforum is too expensive, i want to get an RTX4080 Working with those Mini PC EDIT: i just checked the price and it s not cheaper than minisforum, maybe 20$ depending on the models, i am disappointed.

@phxrider950

17 күн бұрын

@@freedomisdead9638 Do it! I have the Minis with a 7900XT eGPU and it's awesome. I wouldn't get a higher GPU than the 7900XT or the Nvidia equivalent, you're limited by the 4x bus and the mobile CPU having only 16GB of L3 cache vs a desktop PC that would have a 16x slot and at least 32MB of L2 (or a lot more if it's X3D). I had a 6800XT in it before getting the 7900, and with some games there's no difference, like Far Cry 6 for example got exactly the same FPS, whereas on a desktop PC it would be MUCH faster with the 7900XT. Starfield got a massive boost though.

@phxrider950

17 күн бұрын

@@autoscopy I did. Worth every penny and every second of time researching components, sourcing an enclosure, modifying it to accept the Oculink dock, modifying a PSU, etc.

These mini pc's need to put the oculink port on the back!

@sativagirl1885

3 ай бұрын

where hippies ingress/egress.

@Thecatalyst3181

2 ай бұрын

I wonder why on earth those port´s are in front 🤥

@phxrider950

17 күн бұрын

The Minisforum has it on the back.

This seems to be becoming the future of space saver pcs!😎😎👍👍 Though I don't comment much on this channel I always appreciate the tests, the benchmarks and the expert assessments of pc/mini pc/handheld markets and what they offer.

Another awesome video.👍 Love this channel and mini-PC coverage. 4:21 -- great bird's eye view of Mobo . . . (1) helpful to see the 3x M-keyed slots and their corresponding 80mm tiedown screws; (2) *REALLY COOL* E-keyed daughter board with the Oculink; (3) wish you had unscrewed those 4x brass standoffs and pulled out the entire Mobo to show us the CPU fan & cooling parts (and the LAN IC printed specification whether Intel SLNMH [for i-225V] or SRKTV [226]); and lastly (4) in my dream scenario, you also took apart m.2 SSD aluminum cooler and showed its fan (whether being a plain 40x40, a blower, or anything else). 6400 MHz ram . . . impressive. Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.

I'm certainly happy we get more external PCIE ports, but I was hoping we could move onto MCIO. A more robust connector that can support upto PCIE Gen 6 specs and even more lanes.

Could you possibly do a comparison video between using oculink and thunderbolt 4 to see the differences in game and stress tests? Just curious to see how they stack up using the same in game settings and what settings you can max out on with both thunderbolt and oculink. 🙏

i have the exact same one, bought one on taobao back in china. been using it with debian as a lil mini server and also a gaming powerhouse while connecting to a custom oculink dock ^^ super awesome

@Mia_RussiaFan

2 ай бұрын

Hello, how is fan noise?

It has soldered RAM. Better go for GEM12

How far away is Thunderbolt 5? It is going to exceed Oculink so are Mini PCs like this worth it? Or is it worth waiting for a Thunderbolt 5 Mini PC?

Which oculink cable do you use? The proprietary cable from onexplayer or an aftermarket cable? I have the same setup but the onexgpu only works with the USB 4 port….

Finaly hdmi 2.1 with 4k 120hz support on a mini PC!

@AMBER88-gk8vp

3 ай бұрын

Almost all mini PC models sold by the AOOSTAR brand are now equipped with HDMI 2.1.

I'd *ADORE* if these lil buggers could take a 50W mobile GPU internally. Add about 20mm height which could include a fan and more I/O. A teensy beast for 100W, and 120-130W powerbricks are aplenty.

Will you do a small form factor oculink egpu build? These ones are way too expensive.

Can you compare its rival minisforum um780xtx? also compare the egpu onexplayer and gpd g1. Thanks

Do you know if this device can support larger storage ssd? I was curious if it could handle three 4tb Crucial M.2 2280 Gen 4 SSD (12 TB total) or is the system limit to a certain amount?

Yes please, I would like to see how easy/hard it is to get oculink work on linux. (I'm already wrestling with Thunderbolt 4, not even for gaming) :)

Wow, space for 3x 2280 drives? I was looking for a mini-PC that had that. It makes cloning drives from other laptops so much easier.

I have the MinisForum UM780XTX and the parts for an eGPU, minus the card. I am considering this new AOOSTAR GEM10. I could pull the NVME from the UM780XTX and put that into the GEM10 and sell the UM780XTX. Hmmmmmm. I wonder if the extra NVME slots are worth the hassle.

Is it still good to buy r5 5600g apu build in 2024?

This is super NICE! The front-facing Ocu Link and the dual HDMI 2.1 ports on the back are excellent features. The 1TB SSD and 32GB of RAM are a great value at £460. It will fit nicely behind my OLED TV.

Will there be a bigger version😶😊

This looks amazing price to performance considering what else is on offer, 3 m.2 slots plus oculink is very good.

Would've been nice to see some 1440p benches with occulinked GPD and FSR ON along with these benches

What is the idle power consumption?

Please make a video showing how Linux runs on thid. I especially would like to know if Bluetooth and Wifi works properly on Linux 🙏🏻

Thanks for review! Could you please compare mini PC with 7840hs with 32Gb RAM 5600Mhz vs 6400Mhz?

@phxrider950

17 күн бұрын

+1 to that, I would love to see this and the Minisforum UM780XTX squared off against each other.

Very cool. Wouldn't mind seeing the RTX 2000 Ada SFF connected over OCuLink...

I can't wait for mini PCs with Strix Halo.

Eta Prime, if you are using the gem 10 with the internal gpu, the memory frecuency should be 800 mgz, and the cpu package power not more than 45 watts, and not almost 70 w. Please, comment

I don't see myself build another custom PC at this point, my next setup will be a mini PC + an eGPU

Thanks, this is the first time I have herd a downside to Oculink, that its not hot swapable.

@kingkrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa4527

3 ай бұрын

Apparently PCIE can be hotswapable. It's just not a thing for consumer devices and even then it can be a little iffy.

@halfey

3 ай бұрын

Is that really a downside of Oculink or just something the manufacturer decided not to implement? I mean kind of like USB C PD protocol where the power delivery was optional implementation.

Testing these with a Linux distros like Bazzite would be great. Been looking for the right system to set up a see a console that can stream to my other devices.

This seriously impressive even if you exclude the Oculink option. It also has USB3.2 Gen 2 across all ports (not mentioned in the video) and HDMI 2.1 is also a bonus. Then you have the price, which when compared to many other devices reviewed costing much more, on the surface, this does look pretty good to give you an all round performer now and with enough versatility not to feel as though you are being left behind when the next CPU comes along in just a few weeks/months.

Why don't you include comparative benchmarks against other mini PCs with similar specs?

Do these pcs last? Seems too good to be real..

Whats the Bios look like??????

Can you get an Oculink with a say RTX 4070 Super or something? Or just mobile versions and perhaps mobile versions of AMD cards? This mini PC looks fine other than the soldered RAM. For me that would be a deal breaker if I had the money to buy one. Still, impressive about the hardware and I LOOOOVE the three m.2 slots. Thanks for the video.

A head to head with the Minisforum UM780XTX would be awesome. Specs and performance numbers don't tell the whole story - other aspects like noise also matter. In a lot of ways this looks better on paper, but I know from owning one that the Minisforum is very easy to live with, not loud or hot even with the TDP pumped up to 70w in the BIOS, etc. It would be nice to see them head to head and compare all this stuff.

Amazing

Dont know why he never put upscale infor with the resolution infor ! Like 1080p low - frs performant ...

Interesting little box. It does bug me its using LP DDR5 instead of SODIMM, but as they do have a 32gb model I guess most users will have plenty of ram for normal desktop apps and gaming and the higher speed is a plus especially for the igpu performance. I'd still choose a Minisforum over this tho if you can find some 6400 Sodimm modules. Plus you can get up to 64Gb ram and it also supports oculink. I havn't really thaught of external gpu's being especially interesting, but this teased me a bit dependent how expensive those 7600 models coma at which should be a very reasonable gpu for up to 1440p. Still en external GPU will add more clutter if you just like the small form factor that fits on any disk, you might as well go for a small mini itx buid that fits a normal 7600-7800 gpu

Would you consider doing a video putting some of these mini pc against the rog ally? Would it be better to get one of these mini pcs for my LR TV or a rog ally that if I want I would play portable.

I wish ASUS would do a Flow Mini PC. That'd be a great way to expand their Flow range. They could also do a Flow PCI-E card I suppose? Chuck the card in the PCI slot, then it just operates as a riser to the back of your case so you can add an EGPU.

Sick

Yes, please test this (including oculink) with Linux.

I want one

Someone needs to make a JBOD Enclosure with Oculink. It would be awesome for a Plex/Unraid Server to expand the storage. You could then just upgrade the mini PC in the future. Low power and small footprint.

I'd have to set up these SSD only PCs to operate from an external drive over USB 3.x so that I can use my hard drives. Or get a full ATX chassis with room for fifteen or more 3.5 inch & 5.25 inch drives, use M.2 adapters with 5 SATA 3 ports per card to give myself thirteen 20+ TB drives with two 4K Blu-ray burners. Then a power supply to handle the load for the drives alone. Two power supplies really. One for the little PC. The other for the vastly more useful HDDs and ODDs.

It's nice to see a real 3*nvme Ryzen mini PC with OCULINK not taking up M.2 The UM780XTX claims to have 2*nvme, but if you want to use OCULINK, you have to take up an M.2 And according to reviews from people who have purchased the GEM10, the OCULINK bandwidth of the GEM10 is 1.0+ higher than the UM780XTX.

@phxrider950

17 күн бұрын

I've seen that comment, but not sure how anyone comes to that conclusion - it's a PCIe gen 4 x4 slot - 64Gbps is the spec. For this to be the case, the Minisforum would have to be performing at less than spec. Mine reads PCIe 4.0 x4 in GPU-Z and the SSD (I bought mine barebones and put a fast SSD in, not the cheap one they come with) performs exceptionally well in the other M.2 slot, so their bus seems to be fine.

Are you able to overclock the lpddr5 memory to 7500 mhz in the bios like the morefine mini pc?

@berlin36moto

2 ай бұрын

I own a gem10 and so far I could not make it work. Does only run at 6400mts. There is no guide on how to do this (supposedly you set the power to 45w. But there are several points in bios where you can adjust power.) And there are comments on the morefine video that also say it does not work. I haven t found a user coment that said it did work actually.

@bibu6666

2 ай бұрын

This is my second Gem 10 with a 7940HS and both were not able to overclock the LPDDR5 to 7500 mhz. On the official Aoostar Gem 10 page it is now writen : Note: In order to ensure the stability of the machine, the GEM10 overseas version does not support overclocking to 7500Mhz

why more laptop not use oculink?

@phxrider950

17 күн бұрын

Because 1. the connector is not meant to withstand people who put their iPhone in an Otterbox and STILL manage to break the screen twice a year, and 2. Oculink is not hot pluggable and it will fry the motherboard if you plug it in while the machine is on, and the aforementioned geniuses would do that anyway ("Oh, I thought if I just did it once it wouldn't hurt" 🙃).

As always. Expert assessment. And as always the price performance per volume is totally amazing. And I can totally imagine having use for this as a portable small device or even taking both the EGPU and the machine itself to something like a land party. Both of them together still totally portable.! 👍👍🍻

wonder if a mini pc + egpu + lapdock (w keyboard) is a good combo for mobile workstations. When compared to a mobile laptop, the upgrade path is more modular part-by-part

Eta prime I'm really disappointed, why don't you test the AOOSTAR GEM 12 PRO instead of this?

@TheMasterwitcher

3 ай бұрын

Those links don't even work he put there.

My Gem 12 8845hs is limited to 35W TDP. No setting in the BIOS will up the package power. Yes, I've tried everything.

yes egpu on ubunutu pls

imagine form factor goes price up but for travel stuff wow this is worth it

A lot of negativity...geez. Still a cool video. Hell, crosslink, and overclock that thing for all I care. 😂 I'm sure he would find a way.

what are the dimensions? Can't find it on their website

@ARUchannel1

2 ай бұрын

about 15cm2 it is a square, a little bit larger than a a few rubik blocks together

@somehow6839

2 ай бұрын

@@ARUchannel1 Thank you very much!!!!!

@tgc7053

Ай бұрын

I believe it was 10.7 x 10.7 x 6 cm^3.

This mini oc is truly outrageous

the only down is the soldered ram ,, can this use more than 1 pcie port ? a external box with a few pcie slots would be great

I was expecting it to be large tho

The Gem10 has the CPU fan permanenty stuck on, even when in sleep mode. Somthing to be aware of if you want a completely silent PC when using it on a low power mode.

Did you overclock the ram in the bios, AOOSTAR claims it will go up to 7500Mhz, they also claim default wattage is 35w but you can increase it to 54w in the BIOS. You should also review games with the same settings Mini PC to Mini PC, that way we can compare apples to apples instead of us having to compare apples to a loch ness monster. While I'm ranting, we also don't need an EGPU mini review inside a Mini PC review, the EGPU will perform the same as the UM780 XTX since it has the same CPU (unless the CPU thermal throttles, but since you never mentioned the thermals I'm assume it didn't)

Wouldn't Hypr Rx be the best solution for this ? Instead of just FMF ? In any case this mini pc is really cool, definitely an option for someone looking for a powerful and upgradeable mini pc !

Where did this come from!?

@DCM777.

3 ай бұрын

China.

Similarly spec'd to the Elite Mini UM780 XTX but with improved IO, more M.2 support and faster RAM. However, this AOOSTAR costs 200-300 more for very similar system and GPU performance. And even with slower RAM, the Ryzen 7 7840HS in the Elite Mini UM780 XTX outperforms the same CPU in this AOOSTAR system. Can check it out. The Oculink not using up an M.2 port is nice though.

I am still waiting for an Oculink mini PC with Intel processor. QuickSync is simply unbeatable for video transcoding and if I really want to play games I could simply add a graphics card. However, almost all mini PCs still need to work on the noise level.

@TrusteftTech

3 ай бұрын

Good points. Love me some Quick Sync.

@kingkrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa4527

3 ай бұрын

Those Frore AirJets should take care of the noise. Assuming they can become much cheaper and more ubiquitous.

Links dont work unfortunately.

Links for the Gem 10 taking me to completely different products 😂

@cutesammie

3 ай бұрын

Same here. I guess he needs to rake some click points/$$ on those wrong links. SMH

yes go for linux with oculink. i'm currios if linux works well with that port. well it shoul had no problems....

I think the main downside of Oculink is that it is an internal connector rated for only a few hundred insertions. Oculink is great if you are building something that you only plan to unplug once every few weeks/months, but not multiple times per week, this is where i would choose USB-4/thunderbolt, or maybe think about getting something with built in dedicated GPU.

Emulation testing even switch emulation testing PLEASE !!!

Better than the Minisforum EM780?

@berlin36moto

2 ай бұрын

Yes. I have both, but the minisforum is still smaller (i think half the volume). I have the em680 but the Problems most likely are the same: It is quiet and very efficient, but it has half the power. The em780 should not be that different. When you plug in all the USB ports for example, mouse, keyboard, ethernet adapter and then connect a external nvme case, the mouse and keyboard stop working. I think it struggles to provide power to each port even if all single users are below 5W all together it does not work somehow. The whole machine runs at 65W (that is fixed by PD) the two USB4 alone provide at least 15w each, add 3 USB3 (5W min), SD card slot (5W) etc. It just does not add up. I bought a 100w PD charger, but the Problem remains.

oculink nice, but wouldabeen better if it's placed on the back side

Please Linux on eGPU, thann👍

Now THIS is what I've been waiting for. This ticks pretty much all the boxes. One minor gripe though. It would have been better to put the Occulink port at the back IMO. If you'll be using it on a nice clean desk setup having as many cords hidden as possible is the goal. This setup would be great for a casual gamer like myself. Thanks for the review!! 👍😎

is this the fastest mini PC? 🤔

+1 for Linux test

Linux yes please and Horizon Zero dawn!

PlayStation 3 emulation test please on iGPU 😁

Whats the point of those links for these mini pcs when the links don't work?

...AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS has 20 usable PCIe Lanes.... 3 nvme slots alraedy occupies 12 lanes (4 lanes x 3) ... was something left out in that system?

@ojmachine9545

3 ай бұрын

not all nvme slots use that many lanes. its gen 4 and has 3 slots. could easily all be x2

Won’t ship to Australia, why not!!!!

@musicplayingstudio

3 ай бұрын

We aren't part of earth mate. 😂

you forgot to enable AMD Anti-Lag when you enable Amd fluid motion frames.

Another day another mini pc What's the point of so many of them

Everyone should adopt Oculink for mobile or small devices, maybe more than one Oculink even, spam them like usbs

Teste The mini PC white Linux, pease.

Hmm ... what a letdown ... I was expecting the usual review for this one with LPDDR overclock to 7500Mts and maxed TDP. You could have done the eGPU in a separate video.

It doesn't occupy m.2 slot. WTF MINISFORUM WHY DONT YOU

It makes no sense to have the Oculink port on the front and that's one of the negatives about this, despite ETA's "The best mini pc of all time" claims because Oculink.

@ottomaticallyawesome

3 ай бұрын

Don’t worry, it’ll only hold the title for a week or so.

Soldered RAM? Dang… deal breaker :(

Faster ram? LPDDR5 is slower than DDR5. 5600 ddr5 would be better. At the very least should have gone lpddr5 7500 ie the max it officially supports.

First !

Why....why am i even watching these anymore

@ktm-kr9mm

3 ай бұрын

Because you want one

@inbuiltablecrow9033

3 ай бұрын

​@@ktm-kr9mm.... That's so accurate that's it's kinda scary 😂

@lilrockstar77

3 ай бұрын

Self control and common sense are not things that everyone is blessed with. I can’t tell you how many dummies watch this even though they don’t like it. I for sure don’t watch things I don’t like as if there was a firearm to my head. Move on. Be happy

@someguy3186

3 ай бұрын

Something to do on while in the bathroom

@peanutbutterdijonnaise

3 ай бұрын

@@someguy3186I read right as a turd is coming out me

i'm here for the oculink

At this point, just make a pc bruv 😅

Круть)))

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Hey what's going on everybody, it's ETA prime once again here to shill