Interesting exchanges. (Would have be useful to put the names of interviewed people in the video description)

"Noooo don't overtake our precious nation in AI" 😂

@DantesHQ

6 ай бұрын

What would you rather have, a general AI that is alligned with western liberal democratic values or chinese general AI that is alligned with their style of governance? When I look at China and I see an oppressive social credit system where people are being shamed for their financial status, the treatment of Uyghurs and torture of political dissidents, I know what side I want to win.

@gerardoricor

6 ай бұрын

​@@DantesHQ You know nothing about China. You only repeat things that western media says. Have you been in China?

@kye4216

6 ай бұрын

China doesn't have any advanced AI so no need to worry

Kudos on the excellent reporting and the frank exchange of views. This is the transparency we need to navigate our way through historical challenges and combat oppression.

this was an interesting conversation, thanks ,, but it's been striking to me how there's basically zero discussion of foom risk, of hard takeoff ,, everyone just seems to be assuming that the LLM training trajectory is the fastest one available, but uh, what if it's not, then it could be either the US or China that fooms unpredictably or it could come from anywhere :/

I came to hear about AI. Instead I receive a series of political polemics and assumptions about China, especially the panel's presumed knowledge of the mind and intentions of Xi. In short, a series of western political statements parading the usual tropes about China.

@Vaeldarg

7 ай бұрын

They even start off saying "China has gone from a Silicon Valley copycat...", not understanding that China is STILL just a copycat. Worse, they're passing off open-source models and even smuggled Intel chips as their own national products.

@toofy7253

7 ай бұрын

I felt the same exact way. Thank you for saying what I wanted to say in a very clear and concise way. I hope these people take note of your comment

@FutureAITrend

7 ай бұрын

same

@aceyage

7 ай бұрын

And rightly so, Xi is a dictator.

@DantesHQ

6 ай бұрын

This is very clearly a neutral video about AI developments in China and US, so it is about AI, but perhaps the title should be a bit clearer. Helen lived and studied in China for majority of her life while Wong is direct representitve of China.

still could not imagine big scale manufacturing chips in the US

Graphcore has entered the chat. Way more advanced than nvidia.

I loooove Bloomberg Originals.

Galanium? Did he mean gallium or germanium?

How is talking about some "China" or "United States" as actors in this game not truly weird? These are certainly places where stuff happens, but that these are countries which act is surely a notion that needs some circumspection. Slightly obliquely to this, there seems to me to be a very odd bias in the way these people -- like perhaps most commentators -- assume that actions normally have the results desired by the actors. When countries are the actors involved, this seems to me a very dubious thing to assume. The 180-degrees polar opposite seems to me much more plausible.

Perhaps AI creators are grappling with what they invented just like the creation of the atomic bomb…sure there are positives but scary about the negatives…

@dexterrity

7 ай бұрын

Maybe one day, but true AI doesnt exist yet. When people today talk about AI they are really just talking about machine learning models.

@squashduos1258

7 ай бұрын

@@dexterrity yes true but this is the impetus for AGI

@johnl.7754

7 ай бұрын

The main thing pushing this forward is fear of if the other side develops it first.

@luckerooni1153

7 ай бұрын

@@squashduos1258 no reason to think that whatsoever humans are just dumb and easily convinced of things that are just magic tricks

why does this video look 480p even in 1080p?

@NickRichards

Ай бұрын

👀 Because AI doesn't want you to see this video. Obviously. 😅

What are the big names in AI?

Dorks

@07:53 Already have...

Dear Bloomberg correct your title :China AI super power

🤔

;)

Me first!

Oh no! Ai might think people are dumb!

I see

The U.S. has this zero sum mentality which drives this competition, not just in A.I. or semi-conductors, but across all spectrums.

I am AI

Benevolent AI...let's not be delusional. I mean, did we ever care about bugs? Because we are gonna be bugs to AI.

How is the AI of Superpower India?

@herondesign4507

7 ай бұрын

China ranks first in artificial intelligence patents, reaching 76,876. India ranks tenth, reaching 3,460.

Africa will be leading the world in AI 10yrs from now

@quantumskull2045

7 ай бұрын

lol nice joke

@nomadv7860

7 ай бұрын

AI = Aimless infighting

@8218kelmo

7 ай бұрын

@@nomadv7860 I think Hamas Israel are already number one on that one

@8218kelmo

7 ай бұрын

@@quantumskull2045 let's wait who will be laughing then

@2:22 "It requires a huge amount of comp..." and then he switches up the conversation. My guy was going to say computing power and then realised the big give away and blunder he was going to make. These computers use unbelievable amounts of power, energy and water which is damaging an already disastrous environment. Innovation at any cost will be the demise of humans and we are watching it in real time

@njdarda

7 ай бұрын

"compute" literally stands for computing power...

Helen toner is the worst!!!!!

The biggest difference between human intelligence and AI is, creativity... Even when a specific machine has the so-called learning capabilities, it is still doing what it is programmed to do. Creativity requires a mental spark, putting what is available to come up with a new solution....In fact, the sparks in a thunderstorm do create amino acids, the fundamental building blocks of life. For computers, even if they have neural networks, they are different from human brains. That is what is going on right now, it could change in in future.