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@matt-jc4ly

24 күн бұрын

Happy to see strong black voicing talking against all this nonsense. I grew up in the 80s with a black best friend through my early years, race was never an issue and have a hard time believing that racism is a front and center issue that we need to focus on

@slowtony2

22 күн бұрын

@@matt-jc4ly Hi Matt. I appreciate your comment. My view is we *DO* need to focus on racism. Look around us and see all the misguided souls, of all colors, who make it THEIR focus. They need to understand that 'race' is a human label for biological ancestry that shows up in skin color, eye shape, and health risks, among other things, and which also differentiates people with white skin, like hereditary Jews. Having acknowledged all of that, we need to point out that 'race' is a worse than useless category in discussing human capabilities and social interactions, compared with culture (both family-instilled and society-instilled) and socio-economic class. It is impossible for thoughtful people to NOT see biological differences like skin color or eye shape or hair color or freckles. We can even invent stories and jokes about them -- about blonde caucasian women, for example -- but we know those are actually irrelevant to real life and to the character of individuals. More of the young and the 'race' captured need to understand that. They only will if more of us speak up about the things that REALLY matter.

@jamesbizs

19 күн бұрын

“I talked good” 😅

@onlythetruth883

19 күн бұрын

​@@slowtony2 Well. I can tell you all, of my life experience of being mixed, poverty stricken and living amongst blks. And because of my life experience I see it all with full clarity. And unfortunately they will never stop.

@annefagit3305

17 күн бұрын

THANK YOU! There's no such thing as "lived experience" - there are only experiences - I'm glad you didn't let that student pretend that using a silly buzzword magically makes anecdotes academically valid

Too many black people don't want a dialogue on race the want a monologue on race,

@Jianju69

25 күн бұрын

-all the while claiming it's white people that don't want to discuss it. The truth is that if white people discuss it, they're not merely agreeing with black people, and are therefore *considered* to be racist.

@lucianp2616

25 күн бұрын

Why do we need to care about race at all? Why do we need a dialogue or a monologue on race? Why not talk about success and failure? Success and failure is not about race. It's about traits.

@TipToe67

25 күн бұрын

Exactly. Our supposed thought leaders are the ones leading the charge.

@winnigriff8989

25 күн бұрын

I'm black and have been saying that for a long time

@edavidsalways

24 күн бұрын

If you want to know who controls you, ask yourself who you are not allowed to criticize.

The soft bigotry of low expectations.

@timreding4364

25 күн бұрын

Karl Rove.....

@ninadaly7639

25 күн бұрын

The hard reality of internalizing them.

@user-cz5lj2vx1f

25 күн бұрын

@@timreding4364 actually it was George W/ Bush

@DeborahRowePodcast

25 күн бұрын

That was President Bush.​@@timreding4364

@dvg4104

25 күн бұрын

The underappreciated realism of low expectations.

Reasoning is not a white thing. It’s a human thing.

@mtb416

22 күн бұрын

Not saying reasoning is a white thing, but it’s also not something all cultures came to find or utilize.

@l.w.paradis2108

22 күн бұрын

​@@mtb416Then there's Prime Newtons . . . So . . . 😅

@TroyBrownTV

21 күн бұрын

If reasoning was a white thing slavery wouldn't have existed 😂😂😂😂 here's what white people will never be accused of: Reasonableness

@zeenuf00

21 күн бұрын

@@TroyBrownTV'muh deez whiteys be bad yo!' 😆 🤣 😂

@zeenuf00

21 күн бұрын

@@NextWorldVR correct, but not in the way you think

“You didn’t come here to be, you came here to learn.” Brilliant.

@TroyBrownTV

21 күн бұрын

That's stupid. He's freestyling.

@newmann54

20 күн бұрын

​@@TroyBrownTVthey fall for the dumbest shit.....

@Man_fay_the_Bru

20 күн бұрын

Yeah its not that deep mate🤫

@froggybug

18 күн бұрын

This is a dumb thing to say. It’s nonsense. Just tell him what the assignment is and you expect him to do it. Don’t try to use flawed intelligence.

@anahernandez4043

Күн бұрын

This is how I feel about Hispanic children of many immigrants. Parents sacrificed so much to be here for opportunities. Stop being a successful victim and make the most put of your opportunities and make your parent's sacrifices worth it.

“My lived experience” is the core of Sunny Hostin rebuttal whenever she’s challenged.

@socrjox10

24 күн бұрын

the interview with bill maher recently when she evoked all the non-verbal language of a liar and tried to impugn him with her hand on her face while looking down into the table? i member

@richardeast3328

23 күн бұрын

@@HarryF-tz5fo Yeah, exactly like that.

@corvuslight

23 күн бұрын

"Lived experience" becomes even more worthless ( dare I say, problematic ) when it's based on self delusional lies that prop up false virtue and value derived from a strategic perception of victimhood.

@Matt_K

22 күн бұрын

And the nerve that to this day she doesn't believe when she was told her ancestors who came to US were slaveowners.

@MichaelSellers5691

20 күн бұрын

The view should be canceled. The view is poison.

All I have learned is : Understanding racism's existence is important, but professional success relies on competence, not emotions.

@nux2k

18 күн бұрын

And to add a caveat, I'm noticing a lot of most likely Caucasians in these comment sections pretending that racism towards people of African descent don't exist or it's overblown or we are lying, and somehow they are the ones being hurt now. This is a false unhealthy narrative for the whole of the country

Someone telling you you're wrong in a constructive way is the ultimate way of being treated equally. It's what a father would do.

@durandmason2983

23 күн бұрын

But many are not raised in a way that allows them/us to hear it constructively.

@modus18

23 күн бұрын

Exactly. I went to design school and worked hard enough to land some good jobs. I had to learn quickly to take extremely harsh criticism and never take it personally. The teachers were helping me, not attacking me. They were trying to push me toward my potential. That is a form of nurturing that I think we've lost.

@marigold3687

23 күн бұрын

Blacks wanted to be treated the same as whites, but when they get that treatment, they cry racism or discrimination.

@colinjames7569

22 күн бұрын

Very true. And insightful.

@MsBhappy

22 күн бұрын

Many people have absent fathers or as I experienced, a father who was completely insensitive and too impatient to explain anything to a child. This shouldn't be an excuse or barrier though. I chose to volunteer teaching children with wanting the best for each child I engaged with. Wanting to see them grow and develop their strengths with acceptance of their weaknesses, not have shame for them.

Too much common sense in this clip. “Being is not knowing.”

@TroyBrownTV

21 күн бұрын

Being is not knowing, but pretending to not be what you are doesn't make you stop being it

@user-ps1ft1hy4j

21 күн бұрын

And it's not doing, either.

@hope-cat4894

20 күн бұрын

​@TroyBrownTV Except you can move past some things. You aren't going to be a child forever. You may not be poor forever (some people get better jobs and earn higher wages). You won't always stay in the same relationships or live in the same neighborhoods either. Don't let what you are right now stop your growth as a human being.

@scottduncan6344

18 күн бұрын

Of course you agree with two black self hating individuals saying exactly what you want to hear!!

@scottduncan6344

18 күн бұрын

​@@TroyBrownTVI agree 100% These two podcast host are EMBARRASSING!! They take self hating to a whole new level!!

Worked in convenience store for 10 years. This rude black guy was a regular customer. The deli workers took his abuse because “he’s a black man trying to survive in America” was basically what the girls said. I said whatever kind of life the man’s had has nothing to do with you!

@AnimatedTechie

14 күн бұрын

This was the same excuse teachers used at my school. Along with, “they just have different culture” or “they’re just a different group of kids.” Those same teachers that said that have left the school district and now teach at predominantly white schools.

@macrosense

6 күн бұрын

In retail the rules are to be polite and help rude customers get out of the store as soon as possible.

@paddyoak1

6 күн бұрын

@@macrosense And you’re right. Lucky he wasn’t regular regular.

@paulineb66

5 күн бұрын

I’ve seen this too. Other races have to put up with horrid black behavior because it’s “racist” to correct it.

What could be more racist and insulting than refraining from criticizing someone based on the colour of their skin!?

@samanthawhang7498

24 күн бұрын

Oh the snowflakes want and enjoy racism, as long as it provides certain benefits and excuses.

@benjaminz2523

21 күн бұрын

What proves them right is the fact that black people generally don't even see it for what it is. Zero self awareness or humility

@PonkyKong

18 күн бұрын

The leader of South Africa.

"I was smart and... I talked good" Made me spit out my drink

@xhagast

12 күн бұрын

It is a fact, it MATTERS. I am a Spaniard living in Miami. In my neighborhood there was this OLD Black man. One day I heard him speaking like a Cuban. Immediately he stopped being Black to me. He was just a Latin with a tan.

“Being is not knowing” - brilliant

@robertreed9818

23 күн бұрын

This assertion is stupid. Part of what it is to "know," is learning to understand what things ARE, and how they relate to other things that they aren't, even if the other thing is of similar kind. To bring this out of the abstract, that's like if I asked you: "if all matter is made of molecules, and all molecules are constructed of atoms, does that mean I'm an electron?" To respond with, "no, you're not an electron," is far too simple to say. However, to answer yes also doesn't consider that electrons are an integral part of atomic systems (in a very general sense), so if yes, then what would distinguish you from another human or a chair? I like how Irami Osei-Frimpong, the Funky Academic on KZread or IramiOF on Twitter/X, explains that part of being who you are means also to be who you are not. Yes, your human biological system is made up of interrelated electrons, but there is so much more nuance in how those electrons that are a part of you, are uniquely different from those that are a part of me, AND that it is not solely electrons that "do work" to sustain our living systems. They are reacting with other "things" and "processes" to define themselves. In short, it's complicated. Yes, you are electrons, but you're so much more. Also, yes, you're a student that used your anecdotal story in a persuasive essay, but how does your anecdotal story align with larger trends, and what other processes are impacting those trends? Also, how does this trend fit into an historical context? What was going on in society that may have acted as pressures to encourage certain outcomes? All of these questions of what things are is part of the knowing. Now, is it possible to just be and not know? Of course, we call that ignorance, but as I mentioned above, part of what it means to learn is uncovering what things are.

@zeenuf00

23 күн бұрын

​@robertreed9818 you're sperging. be quiet.

@barryfleming8488

23 күн бұрын

And feeling is not thinking.

@TroyBrownTV

21 күн бұрын

So who does know? White folks? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@zeenuf00

21 күн бұрын

@TroyBrownTV such a typically dumb comment 😆

After listening to this I understand better why Ibram Kendi makes Glenn so angry.

@ForeverYoungKickboxer

25 күн бұрын

Because he's an empty suit pushed beyond his capabilities and is used as a pawn

part of the problem is that many black students are taught (wrongly) that any and all struggles that they have in attaining high levels of intellectual production are specific to blacks alone, and that no other students are beset with doubts and fear of failure, when in truth there are white students and students of every identity who struggle in this highly challenging and competitive realm of endeavor called "higher learning". the racialization of university learning causes problems for black (and all) students instead of solving them, as it denies the bond that all students share in their quest for knowledge.

@rdkirk3834

25 күн бұрын

Back in the early 70s, the US Air Force had turned to standardized testing for enlisted promotions. They were given a stack of books and told that all the questions on the tests would come from those books. Whoever did best would get promoted. Before then, promotions had been according to who the white commander and white First Sergeant liked most. But when the promotion standard turned to "who did better on the tests," the black men looked at the white men and decided, "Ain't no way that West Virginia hillbilly is going to beat me out of the starting blocks." Black men in the Air Force hailed the standardized test promotions as the best thing that had ever happened to them.

@Calleronline1-vf1eh

25 күн бұрын

Theres a difference between criticism and constructive criticism....being judged simply because of your skin color with no other critique on the work will leave that feeling.

@Vincentthecatsings

24 күн бұрын

Perfectly stated

@mj99a

24 күн бұрын

@@Calleronline1-vf1eh of course that goes without saying. but one needs to be able to ascertain if it is "simply because of skin color" as mr. mcwhorter did in his case. some consider any and all criticism to be racial, sometimes as a dodge from agency and personal responsibility to be responsible for their own success or failure.

@rdkirk3834

24 күн бұрын

@@Calleronline1-vf1eh Does that happen? "I gave you a D because of your skin color. Good-bye."

I'd be honored to have either of these two gentlemen as a teacher. Bravo.

This! is what the black youth need to hear! Way to go!! These guys get it.

I want a surgeon or a philosophy professor or a plumber or an electrician who has proven himself or herself to the highest standards of the profession.

@spaceracer23

23 күн бұрын

I want a surgeon who passed med school by writing papers on their lives experience.

@sbwlearning1372

20 күн бұрын

Not possible remember plumbing is deeply racist

@elijahshort1590

2 күн бұрын

What’s upsetting about this is many jobs have been controlled by groups based on ethnic groups and only hired their within their own ethnic group. Statements like these denies all that they did.

Damn. “You didn’t come here to be. You came here to learn how to know. Being not knowing.” Love his thought process.

As a white kid who played hoop I was 100% judged by my my skin color. Picked nearly last until the black kids learned I could play. I had to prove myself athletically the same way you're talking about here. That said? Had no problem with it. If anything it gave me an advantage the first couple of pick up games.

@IeremiasMoore-El

22 күн бұрын

womp womp bussy monologue

@MsBhappy

22 күн бұрын

Ignore the other comment from someone with personal issues they're trying to hide from. Anyone who overcomes the adversity of bullying is commendable. I did not endure it from the colour of my skin but I did in other ways. Skin colour is the least interesting layer of getting to know who someone is and no child is born seeing it. Thanks for your comment

@macgregordavis959

22 күн бұрын

​@@MsBhappy nicely put.

@Wlerin7

22 күн бұрын

@@MsBhappy I assume what you meant was something along the lines of "no child is born with stereotypes, they are learned"--but it is literally and hilariously not true that "no child is born seeing [skin colour]". Every child with working eyes is born seeing it. Even the intended statement is dubious. Every child learns naturally to identify patterns, usually starting with surface-level similarities between objects or persons, in the latter of which skin colour is one of the most obvious. While the child may not literally be born with prejudice, if not _deliberately_ taught otherwise a child _will_ come to judge people based on his experiences with other superficially similar people. We don't need to be taught to see skin colour, but NOT to see it.

@MsBhappy

20 күн бұрын

@@Wlerin7 In my personal experience growing up in a diverse city, no, I did not see differences like that until I was in double digit age. I saw people as individuals and members of families. There weren't any patterns besides someone with a foreign accent and nationality or not a foreign accent and nationality until after middle school. I also grew up travelling to foreign countries so that might have helped. I agree with your last sentence completely!

I know I’m about to hear garbage when “my lived experience” or “my truth” comes out of someone’s mouth.

@marynoonan6111

24 күн бұрын

Megan Markel & Oprah are prime examples of professional victimhood.

@neilreynolds3858

23 күн бұрын

It's not always garbage but that way of framing it tends to make it garbage.

@MsBhappy

22 күн бұрын

It's fascinating how it differentiates from in my experience, from my experience, my experiences have me believe..., in my opinion, I think, I feel, I believe. It's an erasure of subjectivity and objectivity rooted in narcissistic tendencies

@dutchdykefinger

21 күн бұрын

@@neilreynolds3858 it inherently makes it fucking garbage

@jbuk4369

21 күн бұрын

@@zeenuf00 Hot garbage too.

Those of us who sacrifice to prove our doubters wrong are most often the ones who bring those very doubters to the table. Resentment only breeds more resentment.

Glen and John, THANK YOU!! We need your voices so much. People don't realize that excusing blacks from the hardest parts of a discipline DOES NOT HELP US IN ANY WAY! The only way to "catch up" is to do the opposite: to raise our standards and expectations for ourselves. Anyone with a message like Glenn and John are bringing today should be amplified. Those (supposedly pro-black) voices that call for lower standards are implying that blacks are inherently inferior and need to be coddled. Those voices need to be minimized and called out as the racists that they are. They think we can't do the hardest things, but we can and we must.

@MsBhappy

22 күн бұрын

Inspiration can and should be found amongst other groups that overcame adversity like many people with ADHD in university. Though many do drop out at higher rates than peers overall, many others succeed in academics, overcoming barriers with self-improvement, self-awareness and systems that work for them individually.

I love that Glenn, "Being is not knowing."

Glenn and John are great Americans.

It must be so infuriating to be a brilliant black student and wonder whether other students and faculty believe you've been admitted to a program based on your race instead of your merit.

@williamtaylor5193

20 күн бұрын

Yes. But it won't last long. Brilliance shines. Listen to Coleman Hughes for 5 minutes and you know you are dealing with a highly intelligent, thoughtful, sincere person.

@EsmeraldaHiggenbotham

19 күн бұрын

@@williamtaylor5193 I agree. I love Coleman. . . . wise beyond his years!

@user-ys2fl4xk6s

18 күн бұрын

And just the opposite happens when you realize 90% of people get to where they are at due to who they know or related to in some form. That's why the US is suffering now, decades full of nepotism in every field. I would hate to compete with someone who excels despite all of that. Lol. Scary hours.

@johnnywise2498

2 күн бұрын

I am a 67 year old white southern man my Dr is a young black woman l like her because she is absolutely the best Dr lve ever had,l made this very important decision based on her excellence, and nothing else

I am a working class man. I can say with a fair amount of confidence, that "sharing your lived experience" is not a viable approach in the working class world...no matter what your skin color is. In fact, it would be laughed out of the room. Conversely, "sharing your lived experience" is something that will gain favor in the white collar, and academic world. It think this says a lot. This is a socio-economic thing. It's a luxury belief.

You didn't come here to be... you came here to be taught how to be. Essentially...

Vow. I studied journalism at SDSU in the 90s; they were still teaching old-fashioned journalism back then. It's incredible that "I writing" is acceptable in academic writing.

@mikevanderwolf8575

22 күн бұрын

What it is, is 4th grade standard.

@l.w.paradis2108

22 күн бұрын

​@mikevanderwolf8575 The most rigorous format and style sheet for philosophy papers permits "I" to indicate that you are taking a position, and that it is you who is doing so. It is not some godlike being with an eye external to the universe. Of course the rigor of the argumentation is very high. That's a requirement.

@Man_fay_the_Bru

20 күн бұрын

@@l.w.paradis2108yeah we know what I means mate😂🤫

@sbwlearning1372

20 күн бұрын

The demographics have attacked the institutions so the standards are lower

*All* experience is “lived experience.”

@victorhopper6774

24 күн бұрын

no

@aequoria2949

23 күн бұрын

Yes. Everyone lives and has experiences.

@sbwlearning1372

20 күн бұрын

No !! Like Orwell said( Whyte writer so of course won't count) "and I'm paraphrasing "some experiences are more equal than others"

@victorhopper6774

18 күн бұрын

@@aequoria2949 after watching sis burn her hand and her screaming i deceided to skip the living part of her experience.

@XXX-tw6zm

15 күн бұрын

It's one of the great oxymorons of our day

So many use the manipulation phrase “lived experience” and then proceed to drape themselves in someone else’s suffering from decades ago.

@robertreed9818

24 күн бұрын

So, in addition to using their lives experience, they also cite sources of other people's similar experiences?

@mattwilliams3427

23 күн бұрын

@@robertreed9818 yes, exactly…because attempting to force your false narrative on others using some authoritarian phrase like “lived experience” while commandeering the suffering of slaves from decades if not centuries ago that have no real relation to you is a great way to start productive dialogue and establish policy…right?

@Xplora213

22 күн бұрын

Certain guy in Austria had a lived experience and his truth was pretty unpopular during WW2. Lived experiences do not build a useful platform for knowledge because their subjective lessons teach us very different things.

@codeN_8

21 күн бұрын

​@@mattwilliams3427 i not sure that you really understand when you say "slaves from a hundred years ago"...that you are talkimg about blk ppls ancestors. You may be removed from.it...they arent. Those are their families. Their families stories. Passed down. Like do you truly understand that blk ppl are actually...real ppl?

@screenmonkey

21 күн бұрын

And several members of my family have lived in trailer parks, worked in the circus, and fought in a war. I have no idea what any of that is like, as those are only stories that were told to me, they have as much bearing on me as a Superman comic.

I remember my college professor being tough on me. I accepted the challenge and succeeded. The workforce is similar. It's like everything else.

Glenn and John have had incredibly important discussions. The fact that they don’t always agree is a testament to just how important.

Excellent. As a 60 year old white man who has noticed much of the content of this topic, it helps me to know that black men my age noticed the same .

There is a university in Australia that rewards Aboriginal staff up to $9000 a year more than non Aboriginal staff for their special 'knowledge' and activist activities.

@PaulGannon-ym6ix

24 күн бұрын

Bull shit

@MsBhappy

22 күн бұрын

I wish that money went toward a project with aboriginal children related to their field. Innovation and ideas and community engagement that actually does tangible stuff seem to be lost today

@xhagast

12 күн бұрын

Until too recently the Australian Aboriginals were being treated BRUTALLY, and Australia is stolen land, so I would give this a pass.

@christopherlynch9006

9 күн бұрын

​@@xhagastall land is "stolen land" if you go back in history so I'm not sure what your point is

I have a friend who thought that it was rac*sm when she was in the process of getting a PhD in biology. It was all the old white men hating on her for being black and female. I asked how she knew this. Because they are old white men and she is not. I asked how she knew that. I had to explain that mind reading was not a skill I have, I could not read her mind, could she read mine? If it could be learned, I really wanted to learn it. Nothing. I said that it was in their old white man best interests for her to prosper. I don't think she had ever heard that before.

@neilreynolds3858

23 күн бұрын

Where would she ever hear that? Certainly not in school...

@chipcook5346

23 күн бұрын

@@sunnydays6237 In fact, it is most always true -- because whose reputation and life can be destroyed in a moment if a female, black, first gen candidate fails? We are talking universities, here, not rational places. Even engineering and the sciences are at risk. Of course, she is straight and Christian...

@MsBhappy

22 күн бұрын

​@@sunnydays6237is there a source on that claim? No one should be in a teaching field if they don't want their students to excel academically and professionally.

@Xplora213

22 күн бұрын

@@sunnydays6237this is completely incorrect - in the heavily progressive academic field, an old white man will gain incredible kudos for mentoring a young black girl. The reality is that some people are not good at their job and they need excuses for their failure to succeed. Relying on immutable characteristics just implies the racists are right - your minority group is not actually good enough after all.

@happycommentator6773

21 күн бұрын

Unless your friend gets her mind right, she will forever be a bitter radical black woman. She and any others like her are my enemy.

It is always a pleasure to listen to what's new in the world as explained by these guys.

Re: the emphasis on "lived experience", one of the fundamental challenges of our era is rebalancing our focus: emphasizing our shared humanity over our cultural differences. We've become overly fixated on narrow attributes like sexual orientation, gender, and ethnicity . . . This excessive identification with specific traits is fragmenting society, creating an abstracted view of reality that drives us apart rather than bringing us together. We need to invert this relationship, prioritizing the 90% we have in common as humans over the 10% that differentiates us culturally. TLDR: your "lived experience" isn't a four-leaf clover

@user-cz5lj2vx1f

25 күн бұрын

I agree. ALL of us--including white people, men as well sa women, heterosexuals as well as LGBT people-- have to be willing to LOOK for and SEE our COMMON HUMANITY.

@robertreed9818

24 күн бұрын

It's not the identifications that fragment the society, it is the material benefit that was given to some identifications over others PURELY on the reason that they had certain identifiable traits.

“Charmingly bad sitcom” Whatchu talkin’ about Mr Mcwhorter?

“My lived experience” is the PC way of saying “my opinion is.” We all know opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one. It’s okay to have them, but they are not special.

@l.w.paradis2108

22 күн бұрын

An educated opinion is often the best one can do, outside of mathematics. Ugly cliché by the way. Try thinking for yourself, or at least find better clichés.

@thedude8247

21 күн бұрын

@@l.w.paradis2108I guess one must dispute between educated opinion and just your ole fashioned regular opinion.

@l.w.paradis2108

21 күн бұрын

@@thedude8247 I guess you've never read Plato on the difference between knowledge and true opinion.

@thedude8247

21 күн бұрын

@@l.w.paradis2108 …

I wish there were more intellectual debates within the black community. The world, not just America, would benefit from fostering and normalizing that kind of discourse within groups and between individuals across groups.

@Man_fay_the_Bru

20 күн бұрын

You’re kidding huh😂

@scottduncan6344

18 күн бұрын

This is not a debate! This is two black self-hating guys saying what they know white people want to hear! RACISM IS REAL! This country is DOOMED unless it admit and pay what is owed to black people!!

Thanks for speaking up. We all need to learn how to think critically and learn from great professors.

You already know your lived experience. If you go to college OPEN A BOOK!

Racism is bigger topic now than it ever was during Jim Crow despite being racist is now instant career killer. You're not gonna get any significant, private, local, state or federal position if you're tainted with racism. It is truly wild to think about.

@mikemerlin4020

25 күн бұрын

Sure will...if you're racist against white. or Asian people

@laertesindeed

22 күн бұрын

Technically speaking you are wrong...... you can get any position in county, state, or federal employment as a racist.... as long as the racism is not white against black. If you are black racist against whites? You'll get the job. If you are black racist against asians? You'll get the job. If you are hispanic racist against blacks? You'll get the job. If you are hispanic racist against asians? You'll get the job. If you are asian racist against whites? You'll get the job. The argument against racism was "never" against racism itself.... it was using racism as a tool against one race while not being caught doing just that.

@MsBhappy

22 күн бұрын

​@@laertesindeedit's a scary thought. We certainly have devolved and continue to regress as a society. Dr. King would be ashamed of all Americans.

"lived experience in subjectively and emotionally derived. It lacks the ability to argue a position on objective and practical grounds.

One of the best discussions on race issues I have ever heard. Thank you.

While I have chosen to use qualitative methodology in my dissertation, lived experiences of others, I frequently go to quantitative studies in higher education to develop thoughts from fact instead of personal experience. Great advice Glenn and John.

I very much appreciate your wisdom Glen ⛪️🇺🇸❤️✌️

Great stuff, as usual. The truth can be hard to hear, especially at first. But after you reach a certain age, if the truth is still hurting your feelings, it's probably because you've failed to address certain internal inadequacies. And that would by a YOU problem. Kudos to you both. Few articulate this better than you two.

Excellent clip. I’ve watched it 3x in a row so far. Too many great points for one listen.

I did that in my political science class with my professor when bringing up the reality of sexism. He gave me the same challenge and bet my grade, an A if I persuaded him. I completely left out the personal experience because it is just that. Loaded with overwhelming facts and research from gold standard sources I not only persuaded my professor, but he shared my paper with his lawyer wife who took it to her office and shared it with her female colleagues. I got my A.

@MsBhappy

22 күн бұрын

What were your arguments?

Another great conversation!

I’ve taught research methods in University for 14 years. Some Qualitative research uses a narrative method where they collect the subject’s “Lived Experiences”. It’s a valid method of collecting people’s experiences. However, it’s been used as a weapon for Post Modern theories such as Critical Theories of all sorts. That kind of paper or research will be replete with references from other post modern theories that have little to no academic rigor. Referencing hairbrained theories from ridiculous journals is “idea laundering”. To put it in crude language, it’s a circle jerk of wokeness. On the positive side, I’ve had enough students using this research method in the proper way and has produced acceptable scholarly work products.

@robertreed9818

23 күн бұрын

So, students are actually citing sources and other works, you just don't like who they're citing because you find the academics "woke?"

@twystedhumour

23 күн бұрын

@@robertreed9818 I suggest you reread his statement as that is not what he said; instead, you yourself are "projecting."

@robertreed9818

23 күн бұрын

​@@twystedhumourThat's exactly what he said when he highlighted how qualitative research methods lend themselves to providing narrative in research papers. However, now he feels as though the method is being used either in lieu of quantitative studies or as a bludgeon to push through certain ideas that he defines as "woke." Even in his replies though, he mentioned that qualitative analysis would still be sourced from outside perspectives other than their lives experience, even if they choose to use their lives experience as a catalyst for writing the paper in the first place.

@zeenuf00

23 күн бұрын

@@robertreed9818 found the woketard.

I've just discovered this channel this morning and I'm really enjoying the words of wisdom and reason.

Great to see you posting clips of the length I more often have time to view. Always enjoyed and learned from you guys but rarely had the time. Keep them coming please.

Mankind needs to upholds ourselves. Support is wanted and needed

“Being is not knowing”. Facts.

Could a Roland Martin or a Joy Reid have this conversation.

@DeborahRowePodcast

25 күн бұрын

Hell to the no.

@EireHammer

24 күн бұрын

They could but they would choose not too,to preserve their paycheck.

You guys are such a breath of fresh air!

Love to listen to two brilliant and eloquent black men.

Glenn, you would have been a great D.I., excellent, thanks again.

I enjoy hearing you two.

I am so glad I came across this channel. I find both of you so very interesting. I look forward to watching more.

Glenn, that opening monologue/edit was glorious.

the "learn about myself" argument sounds like a call for validation. you learn by doing vs. by 'saying.'

“You didn’t come here to BE. You came here to LEARN how to KNOW” - Prof Glenn Loury. Stopped me DEAD in my tracks!

Love you both and the conversations. I am learning a lot about how to think, how to present your findings. Keep it up.

These two are brilliant, well done guys!

3:07 and now you are very successful because of it! Hell I’m Indian and my Finnish supervisor tore my thesis (in cancer research) apart about 15 times. It was incredibly complex so it actually helped me a TON.

Amen. Thank you for your honesty. May our nation see far more of this. Cheers.

“You came here to learn how to know “ - I needed to hear this…

@BrotherB1ackHeartSavage

20 күн бұрын

Then you’re probably too slow for your age

The most undermining term that this generation lives and dies by - microaggressions.

@teg5135

13 күн бұрын

The age of grievances and hurt feelings….and weak character.

Found this channel through Thomas Sowell. Subbed. I like anyone who drops truth bombs.

@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762

17 күн бұрын

Sowell is a clown

@christopherlynch9006

9 күн бұрын

​@@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762Translation: "I don't like the uncomfortable truths he tells so I pretend he is a clown."

I love you two guys!

@glennlouryclips I just found your channel today and I have really enjoyed your common sense discussions. Thank you for your channel.

I used to work in Education. The principal was a black dude. Half the teachers and staff were black. They all went to school to get where they are. I never heard them once talk bad about white people. They didn't whine and cry about how hard it was or how bad they got it. Never heard them talk that negatively about anything in general. They were busy working and taking care of the kids. They were fine upstanding human beings. We went out for drinks and BBQ and never once had any animosity. On the flip side, we had little black boys bullying all the kids, especially the nerds saying, "Why you tryina be white for? You don't need none of this out on the street." They'd flip the scipt between saying, "When I grow up I'm gonna play football" and then a couple days later, "I know I'm goin to jail. I wanna go to jail." Most of them don't have fathers in their lives. Many of them got a bunch of siblings and one mother or one grandmother that can't handle them. The only male role models they got were us, the faculty at school.

I love John's neologisms as much as I love your conversations in general :) Thanks a lot.

Thank you gentlemen, brilliant discussion !

Great episode! Thank you gentlemen!

The best lessons in my life thus far have involved getting kicked in the teeth when I was down. Where did this notion that adversity is “evil” come from? THAT’s how we learn. That’s how we move forward. Unfortunately, however human beings will 9 out of 10 times choose the easier road.

@neilreynolds3858

23 күн бұрын

We're sheep. Sheep follow the herd because it's easier.

@MsBhappy

22 күн бұрын

Cognitive distortions and defense mechanisms rather than resilience, personal development and self actualization.

@ninadaly7639

21 күн бұрын

@@neilreynolds3858 In the short term.

Glenn for President!!

These two intellects never disappoint. One is a reluctant Republican, the other is a cranky democrat (self-described). When either of them says something I disagree with, it’s an opportunity to explore a different way to see things

On being and knowing: knowing is a mode of being, and this is central to the problem. The New Zealand philosopher Rom Harré described education as a personal identity project within a particular social order (e.g., linguistics); one learns *to be* a linguist, or historian, or whatever. The 'problem' is that this means giving oneself over to that order (as John's experience attests) and this means that one's pre-educational mode of being is no longer sovereign-and that's what the Kendi-type of approach wants to resist and deny.

@arawilson

23 күн бұрын

Knowing is about changing -- or learning is becoming.

Right on Glenn👍👍👍

It's great listening to smart people being smart.

Wow. Thanks, guys. I appreciate your POV.

Thank you.

The absence of criticism from white professors to black students is actually more damaging. And far more pervasive….

Damn this was refreshing. My neck hurts from agreein! I honestly feel like a lot of people need to hear this... Not just black people.

Wow! Lots of knowledge and intelligence here. Well done!

Glenn is by far my favorite Black man. On fucking point, he is.

What wisdom. He's recommending that we all teach ourselves DISCIPLINE!! And learn the difference between OBJECTIVE and SUBJECTIVE arguments

And none of the constructive criticism of your technique is racist. It's skill building insight producing, and it works. Thank God for criticism from the people who help you. "Do better" is guidance

Fantastic back and forth

Loved Different Strokes! I remember that episode…thought the same thing about that Q&A

Profound wisdom in the first few seconds of the video. Made my day.

Poor Terrance Howard is getting hit with that freight train right now.

I subbed after "being is not Knowing". Truth.

Holy cow! I remember that episode of Diff’rent Strokes!😂

I'm about the same age as Glenn. When I started college at UCLA that's when much of this really began. Classes like Black studies. I had to wonder what one could possibly learn in such a class.