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top lane players playing 6d chess for the slightest advantage:

@mmorkinism

9 ай бұрын

Then jungler ganks and what you did doesn't matter.

@luckygames7216

7 ай бұрын

@@mmorkinismhector is doing all of this while taking account for jungler type and where jungler started / default clear for that jungler this is the result of playing thousands upon thousands of games *WITH intent

i love this advanced concepts whether it is micro or macro, pls do more

Probably the most useless comment out there, but in the showcase of elo icons at the beginning of the video Emerald comes before Platinum 😅

@elibeeman5510

9 ай бұрын

I respect this comment bro

@Dantodlc

8 ай бұрын

To be fair, they're pretty much the same thing

How is this related to the video title? This is just commentary over a very specific matchup.

Interesting, as always, and i'm not saying this is without value do the match up, but i think using one of the most one sided MU in LoL to explain concept about pressure and mind game isn't the best idea to give the message across. Kled always been one the worst match up of Aatrox by far, any plat Aatrox would know that and play really poorly due to it, feeling obligated to try desesperate move to get a lead, i'm not saying the concept is invalid but this whole demonstration is made biaised by the fact this Aatrox was desesperate to try to get a lead before the laning phase even started, making it insanely easy to bait him into mistake.

@andreasflicke1094

9 ай бұрын

Written by a dude who doesn't improve from free contect bcs he is searching for (even invalid) reasons why it doesn't work.

@moi1407

9 ай бұрын

@@andreasflicke1094 You obviously didn't read my message since i never said what they said was wrong or how it didn't applied, i merely suggested that using this kind of MU to prove their point might lead to what you describe, aka people trying to find excuses on how it doesn't apply to their games. Showing the same concept from the other side would have been way more persuasive as even the most stubborn aatrox player would have conceide that this actually works when you know how insanely one sided this match up is, while showing this match up from the Kled side is asking for player to dismiss this content, as even a lowest ranked player could easily bully an aatrox in laning phase. I do realise most of people in comment are searching for bad excuse, but maybe next time read my comment before giving answer that miss my point entierly.

@elesenal_Idv-Discussions

9 ай бұрын

it's like you can't use Draven Pyke's perspective to teach fundamentals when they're against jinx Janna pretty sure this is what you mean right @moi1407

@moi1407

9 ай бұрын

@@elesenal_Idv-Discussions No, you can teach fondumental no matter which side you are on, it's just not going to be as persuasive or as effective when it's done from the point of view of the team who is expected to win. I'm going to use an weird analogy to get my point across, it's like looking at a video teaching how to drive properly in a race, two car facing each other in the race, one car is a racing car and the other is a basic everyday car, i would argue seeing the guy win in the basic car using good fundamental of driving/racing is way more persuasive than seeing the guy in the racing car winning using the same fundamental. That all i was saying, it was only addressing to skill capped, to maybe make them avoid all of the 'aatrox can't win anyway' discussion that would obviously appear in the comment after this video, althought maybe sparking all this debate around this was the point to begin this as more comment = more visibility.

And this is why I'm not a top main, the level of micromanagement for every autoattack required to be competitive on top is too tiring. This was hard to follow up even with the pauses and now add to that carefully last hitting and keeping track of the jungle 🤔

@elesenal_Idv-Discussions

9 ай бұрын

what role main are you then? just curious bc mid bot also has to do that

@riccardoazzolina8741

9 ай бұрын

go to the Doctor

@slingman1074

9 ай бұрын

and this is why jungle and support players are elo inflated and dogshit at the game

@elesenal_Idv-Discussions

9 ай бұрын

yea every role is difficult@@wolololer

@elesenal_Idv-Discussions

9 ай бұрын

@@riccardoazzolina8741 geez chill man

I can confirm a 100% that guy is not an Aatrox main

@Kexaru

9 ай бұрын

I don't think every Aatrox main has the coolheaded challenger mindset to carefully think every little advantage he may be giving in the first 3 levels of the game 🤔

@milesedgeworth6353

9 ай бұрын

Heavily implying that being an Aatrox main somehow gives you insights to challenger lvl tactics.

@elesenal_Idv-Discussions

9 ай бұрын

it's probably about how hector vods in this vid is only aatrox

@riccardoazzolina8741

9 ай бұрын

maybe he just don´t know about Kled

Would love to see this same type of guide for Renekton

Why did he upgrade e at 06:08 (02:42 in game), delaying it almost 15 seconds

@Celmondas

9 ай бұрын

Maybe he wanted to preserve the option to skill W instead

@dothsyl1843

9 ай бұрын

He was maybe guessing if he wanted to upgrade E or W since Kled W is a passive that activates on first auto then goes on cooldown, a lot of Kled keeps their skill upgrade until they need to trade. He then decided to take E instead because it allowed him to proc the second part of Q

@natdaone5075

9 ай бұрын

It’s Kled specific. When you hit level 2, you want to save a skill point until you dismount during a trade and then you can level w to get the ability immediately so you can quickly remount before the enemy can kill you. However, if you aren’t in danger of dismounting then you can level up E to look for a short trade.

clickbait title smh

I guss I am low elo for life

as an illaoi main just shove everything in the tower, hope the enemy dj dont know illaoi and comes ganking and easy peezy 20 min later lost because 1/22 botlane :D

Well now they will.

Kled cancer champ doesn’t need to do all that to win

@elesenal_Idv-Discussions

9 ай бұрын

kleds nowhere near good if enemy's know how to play around w tho unless ur playing a very bad champ against kled

@marvelsingh3927

9 ай бұрын

@@elesenal_Idv-Discussions yea I mean against aatrox

@elesenal_Idv-Discussions

9 ай бұрын

@@marvelsingh3927 ok

You make a video featuring a matchup that is undeniably favourable for kled? smh.

my head gonna explode to understand all this 😵‍💫 🤯

FANTA MENTOS?!

Tell me how to deal against 12-1 samira as a toplaner

@darkgoblin5681

9 ай бұрын

You stun and oneshot her. Cmon it's an adc. Unless she has good teammates, then you're f***ed.

@maxederson3812

9 ай бұрын

@@darkgoblin5681 what if her super fed tanky sup is always up her ass?

@elesenal_Idv-Discussions

9 ай бұрын

​@@darkgoblin5681I don't agree as an irelia main I have to play it like perfectly and also have minions around or I just lose like definitely

im still confused

It's not just for toplane but anytime you trade in any lane.

Now we need a video of how to calculate every champion's ability range

@omba7084

9 ай бұрын

you dont calculate it its just experience

@Darion350

9 ай бұрын

Comes with experience, and if you don't know, you'll find out the first few times they use it.

@elesenal_Idv-Discussions

9 ай бұрын

you can look it up on the internet also

nice guide, playing against low elo in a favored matchup, must be hard to win lane

hmmmmm

does this still make fun or is it like math-homework-fun?

Good video but the point is atrox is an easy match up for kled, you don't have to think that much to beat him as kled, I am master rank and I beat challenger atrox all the time with ease. This video will be much more convincing if this is Kled vs Fiora.

@kriz1396

9 ай бұрын

proof

love this channel but yall legit say the same thing in just about every video about this lol

@elesenal_Idv-Discussions

9 ай бұрын

fundamentals stays the same

Honestly I was quite curious of the video when I saw it pop after seeing it, I was quite disappointed. It's more about abusing enemies miss play there's no advance mechanics in that I'm a main aatrox and without even talking about aatrox /kled match-up (which is quite something on it's own) this is pretty bad tips cause you are imagining things and baiting the beginners It's good in low elo I guess but they'll get instant punish for doing that at higher lvls just basically because you keep your 3rd q(at least) with aatrox cause the CD of the q start at every q not starting at the end of the 3rd one. literally the only "mechanics" that is true is at 8:29 on how to punish you for your ego. Why bait low elo on doing this like u were saying at the beginning of the video, the basics will get you much further and anyway it's just giving you bad habit for higher elo Even if you'll probably won't read something that long please don't get baited on this one there's a lot of other videos they've made who are much more useful and if you rly want to show "advanced mechanics" try looking for a high elo match or sometimes high elo otp who knows the match up rly well have a good day

@fumetsuiremono597

9 ай бұрын

@@bigsmoke4592 I think I wasn't clear . It's not about match-up but those little "mind game" as u say are just missplay from both sides and it's absolutely useless to know about something this specific at low levels because one it gives you bad habits for later and two they're is a lot of things to learn for a beginner that can be way more useful and efficient and easier to learn at the same time Maybe you've seen down below but some people are saying wow this is too much for me and yeah this is a lot of thinking when you are not used to it but sadly it's only to impress people that don't know the game Hope I've made myself more clear

@fumetsuiremono597

9 ай бұрын

@@bigsmoke4592 and technically I'm fine with the video if you just put "how to punish mistakes from low elo" in the title not advanced mechanics

@ymotle

9 ай бұрын

@@fumetsuiremono597 Its just a bait title, welcome to the internet

@fumetsuiremono597

9 ай бұрын

@@ymotle true that's sad but well

narrator sounds like a guile main but id still kiss him on the lips

I'm sorry but the intro has me tilted. Why do you put all the ranks in order except plat/emerald?

@elesenal_Idv-Discussions

9 ай бұрын

huh

@kanedebelak5325

9 ай бұрын

@@elesenal_Idv-Discussions it ascends from iron to challenger but has plat and emerald switched

@elesenal_Idv-Discussions

9 ай бұрын

@@kanedebelak5325 ohh alr now it make sense ty for clarifying

just in last minute I knew that he is kled

This season my Soloq experience is one of the worst ever. I’m tired of Emerald rank, half of the time my team loses early game and we lose in 15 minutes, other half enemy players looking like they use computer for the first time 💀 I wanna climb but I get +20 for win and -28 for lose so dodging became my biggest friend ❤

@R0cKabL3

9 ай бұрын

thanks for sharing man

@Tearnor

9 ай бұрын

@@R0cKabL3 I don’t have to write anything because I know people care only about their experience, but as a player you can’t talk bad in game or you get reported, you can’t write negative stuff on Reddit so how I’m supposed to give my feedback 😉

Do a trundle video

1st

Guide totally for low elo players only

@elesenal_Idv-Discussions

9 ай бұрын

I mean if ur high ELO you should know already soo

Meanwhile Aatrox just trying to get last-hits with Q 👉👈🙄