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@jasonmarbach

6 күн бұрын

Yeah this ep was heavily influenced by Rashomon, per the showrunner, so we’re definitely getting unreliable narrator stuff.

I’m really enjoying the mystery here and I like the show. I’m one hundred percent convinced that episode 5-8 are going to be some of the best Star Wars in Tv

@SeanTanktop

6 күн бұрын

If they stick the landing it could be super special

The Jedi don't take children. That's literally the only people you do take.

@SeanTanktop

6 күн бұрын

i mean, they specifically talk about people being too old to be trained.

You know, after her family was killed in this kind of accident, she should establish some galactic regulations on safety. She could even use her own nick name for it. :3

@SeanTanktop

6 күн бұрын

LOOOOOOOL

Ron Burgundy watching Mae, “That really got out of hand fast”

@SeanTanktop

6 күн бұрын

Soooooo truuuuue

Qui Gonn: “Ooooh we bettin’?!?!? When I’m not disobeying orders, you know I’m ramblin and gamblin!!”

I'm loving this show so much because it's not telling us everything is black and white - everything the jedi do is going to be correct, everything those the jedi are against do is bad, it's nuanced and messy. The show is handing us complex situations where everyone has their own perceptions of what's going on and letting us just sit with it instead of saying 'x person is the good guy, x person is the bad guy'. It really makes you sit with your own preconceived notions and interrogate them - like when the episode opened with Osha holding the butterfly with the force and everyone assumed it was Mae and she was doing it maliciously, but then when Mae comes in and does the exact same thing, Osha yells at her for 'doing things like that' and we as the audience can see that Osha's view of Mae isn't very objective - she already sees Mae as a road-block to her own freedom and what she wants to do with her life. At every turn, our expectations of who is doing what's good and who is doing what's bad is shifted and turned on its head and I'm really enjoying it.

@ninfia657

6 күн бұрын

Every star wars since Episode 1 does that, "everything the jedi do is going to be correct, everything those the jedi are against do is bad, it's nuanced and messy." It's getting too played out now. Star Wars needs new ideas they keep doing that same exact plot point every time.

@aprilshighfantasysoul5891

6 күн бұрын

@@ninfia657 I disagree - I don't feel like we've ever had a story where those the jedi are opposed to are shown in a positive light - which makes this a refreshing change

@SeanTanktop

5 күн бұрын

I would also counter that not even in the Prequel trilogy films themselves, was the idea that the Jedi are super bueacratic and bumbling entity really super explored, it's just that George is reallllllllllllly bad at writing stuff like that and they had to spend 7 seasons of The Clone Wars to retcon that so everyone doesn't look as stupid as they look in those films.

Sean you're absolutely right, the creator mentioned it being a Rashomon look into the incident

Everybody onscreen is awesome, no shade or disrespect intended, I just really miss Morgan and Dustin with Sean 😅❤️

@jasonmarbach

3 күн бұрын

lol @ the telegram bots. Nobody uses that fucking garbage ass platform 🤣

I'm enjoying the series and the reactions! 🎉

The Tia and Tamera comp was insane 😂

I love that it’s a new setting, new characters, exploring the aspects of the force and Sol 😂

The fresh scar on Torbin's right eye...and where's the Wookiee? No way did Mae start all of that fire...

How has the Targaryen Queen turned into a dancer from the 30's swing era.

I know I’m spamming a lot of comments (but, you know, that algorithm witch is hungry) but I gotta add one more: y’all’s commentary dunking on the chuds is awesome (and prescient, with how loud they’ve been about the chanting scene)

@oyolaj

6 күн бұрын

Yea that chanting was pretty shyt there's no denying that.

@jasonmarbach

6 күн бұрын

@@oyolaj nah it was fine. You, on the other hand? Definite sht.

@jackiecarson859

6 күн бұрын

Heck yeah. Lovin' the dunkin'.

Jenilea, the queen who never was.

#BelieveWomenAndShit Technically Korril would be of Maul’s species (though a different sub species), not his home planet. Something else for sure must’ve happened to cause that disaster. With Mae implying the jedi attacked without provocation, I’m thinking the coven may have been deemed a threat and the jedi were given orders to take them out. Or at the very least shut them down, and the confrontation spiraled out of control. There could also be a third party as you and others have speculated. It’s been confirmed neither Palpatine or Plagueis created Anakin. The Force made Anakin in response to them messing around. And that’s true in both canon and Legends. People like to point at a page from a Vader comic that seems to imply Palpy was responsible, but the writer confirmed this was not the case.

POWER 1!!!!! POWER 2!!!!! POWER OF MANYYYYYYYY......

The jedi are cops

Shout out to Emil rocking that Batman Forever glass. A man of culture.

It’s one thing to dislike this show - I’m still kind of waffling on it, myself - but so many of these assholes have a visceral _need_ for the show to be bad, and objectively so, at that. It’s so pathetic.

Where’s the rest of the bear?

@SeanTanktop

6 күн бұрын

ASoIaf stuff is the only thing currently that packs the place

Best Characters From The Acolyte 1. Smilo Ren/Qimir 2. Sol 3. Aniseya 4. Mae (older) 5. Osha 6. Yord Charlie from Emergency Awesome is correct. Yord is comparable to Syril in Andor. Uptight and always plays by the book. I don’t care for Osha and Jecki’s lesbian romance. So to differentiate Mae from Osha, Amandla wears similar wigs but Osha’s hair is shorter. Mae’s hair is shorter at the front but longer in the back. Or they can use one wig and attach extensions on the back for Mae’s hair. Almost every male SW fan wants a character who looks like a badass and wants him to use a lightsaber like a badass which includes a man child like Star Wars Theory who wants Revenge of the Sith be redone 100 more times. Male SW fans were jizzing who Marrok would turn out to be. That’s all male SW fans wants. They want lightsaber duels and the character looks cool doing it. Preferably a white guy like Hayden and they want him to twirl a lightsaber like *Carly* *King* and Ray Park. Carly King is loving The Acolyte. Let’s not hate her for enjoying it. *Sister* *Sage:* Ryan is the first natural-born superhero. And his brand needs to reflect that. He’s not one of Vought’s lab rat freaks. He was chosen - by fate, God, whatever- to be the one who saves the world. *Homelander:* Yes. But let’s not forget why he is special. Shall we? He’s my son. Chosen by God, sure, but, uh… made by me. *Sister* *Sage:* The chosen one narrative only works if he stands alone. Harry Potter. Neo. Luke Skywalker. Hollywood’s trained people to fall in love with *white* *boy* *lone* *saviors.* So, America will want to fall in love with Ryan. Technically, Luke isn’t the Chosen One but he was the reason why Anakin killed Palpatine (or supposedly if you ignore Episode IX). All this bring balance to the Force is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. That explanation of the Force needing light and dark is so vague and esoteric. To me, Luke was the hero of the Original Trilogy because he could’ve killed his dad but he chose not to. Or you can argue Vader pulled back but *love* from a father and son was the real hero of the OG Trilogy. Whining about lore breaking…. They showed fire in space! Mae & Osha undermines Anakin’s birth! Ki-Adi-Mundi broke TPM’s canon! Google search Star Wars plot holes from Yoda training Obi-Wan and not Qui-Gon to Leia seeing her dead mother to having complete amnesia for C-3PO and R2-D2. Why did Obi-Wan take 3 years to send Luke to Yoda? How come the Millennium Falcon wasn’t properly scanned? Vader can’t sense that’s his daughter he’s torturing and had captured twice? Why did Yoda give up so easily in ROTS during his fight with Sidious? Why did it take a year to rescue Han from Jabba’s palace? More plot holes: How come the Jedis are easily forgotten after 19 years? How Vader uses an “ancient” religion. So 19 years is considered ancient? The Jedis were the guardians of peace and justice for over a thousand generations according to Obi-Wan and they get completely forgotten after two decades? Han Solo is the atheist but his best friend happens to know the last living Jedi Master remaining. Someone who oversaw a war happening in Chewbacca’s home planet of Kashyyyk. Now I won’t get into how come Owen Lars doesn’t recognize C-3PO in A New Hope when Threepio stood next to him in Attack of the Clones after Shmi died. Threepio was silver and droids are basically looked upon as appliances. But I do find it hilarious that Owen basically bought back the droid he used to have 22 years prior and it’s the one his stepbrother made. It’s George Lucas making up stuff along the way. George has broke his own canon by adding characters that weren’t there. Or him trying to shoehorn old characters like the droids and Chewie as fan service which creates even more plot holes. You can’t whine about the lore breaking when George Lucas did it himself. Ahsoka was the biggest unnecessary addition and Dave Filoni sure loves his baby girl, his waifu. She’s never mentioned in any of the OG movies. Anakin wasn’t ranked Master yet and he still had his own padawan. She’s basically Rey before Rey. The closest to having live action Mara Jade. Ahsoka was hated early on. Then The Clone Wars got better and now she’s even more beloved than Leia and Padmé. Star Wars is not high art. There’s going to be bozo writing like how Jar Jar keeps getting promoted for higher government jobs. Or how Obi-Wan changes his first name to Ben but keeps his last name and hides Vader’s son in Anakin’s home planet with Ani’s own stepbrother and wife while Luke still uses the same last name. So much inconsistencies in the writing dating back to A New Hope. Star Wars is not coming from Coppola, Scorsese, or Nolan. It’s not Oppenheimer. Treat it like the next Jurassic movie. High expectations is why Star Wars gets judged so harshly compared to something like Star Trek when all Star Wars is involves space monks/samurais with telekinesis and laser swords. *The* *L-Word* If all of this is a message from a lesbian who is proud to be a lesbian and it’s ok for little girls to be like her, then there’s no hope for this show. Star Wars has turned into The L-Word and Orange is the New Black. Because some chick named Leslye Headland who has a wife named Rebecca Henderson has this show starring a Black lesbian named Amandla Stenberg and that it’s ok to be like them. That seems to be the entire premise is to show lesbians exists in Star Wars. That’s the whole point of this. Nothing else. When Nerdrotic was saying The Acolyte was really a bunch of space lesbians, my greatest fears for that are coming true. That’s all this show is becoming. Space lesbians everywhere!! Hey Leslye, you didn’t need to tack on your sexual orientation and lifestyle onto a Star Wars show. This is not cool. It’s like Cheese kicking that dog in House of the Dragon S2E1. We’re the dog. These final four episodes better be bangers or this remains as the worst thing Star Wars has ever put out. Worse than The Book of Boba Fett, Obi-Wan Kenobi, The Last Jedi, and The Rise of Skywalker. Worse than The Rings of Power and even She-Hulk!! And gut feeling tells me it’s not going to change. I feel bad for some of the cast members. Part of the worst SW project ever created because some lesbian, a former assistant to Harvey, wanted a SW series catered to lesbians. It’s The AcoDyke! And The Wokelyte is simply a PSA telling viewers that lesbians are awesome! Anyhoo, we’re all still going to tune in next week to find out if Qimir is Smilo Ren or not and who killed the lesbian witches from 16 years ago. It’s a trainwreck, we know, but we still can’t take our eyes away from it in this lesbian whodunit series. We need Jenilea, young Rhaenys, back in the Burlington Bar this Sunday.

@oyolaj

6 күн бұрын

You must be bored.

I may have my issues with the show, but some more _intense_ fans that feel the same way might benefit by expanding their perspectives when it comes to most of these stories. We're talking about an entire galaxy, but more importantly a vast history. And what are we watching? A dozen hours in the life of a group of individuals all across a *vast history.* I mean instead of saying something broke cannon, perhaps look at it like, _"Well, let me tell you about this one time…"_ Afterall, the entire history of the United States is not defined by the short period prohibition was in effect. Or during the time of McCarthyism. But the stories one can tell during these times can be as vague or as detailed as the storyteller wishes.

@SeanTanktop

6 күн бұрын

Yup. This is fantasy much more than Sci-Fi. And even if it was hard sci-fi it’d lend itself towards a way more diverse conversation about gender, alien life etc. so it’s a moot argument on both fronts

You're joking about it being Torbin but I actually do think it is him. I don't think he really died and this is a slight of hand. This is all about unreliable narrators, as all mysteries are, and they even pointed out that Mae was trained by a Jedi

Not sure why Leslye wanted to do a not-Nightsister coven of witches. Just feels like a dollar store version.

@sleeper-cassie

5 күн бұрын

Not that I’m an expert in such things, but it feels very Wiccan-coded to me.

@ericp1139

5 күн бұрын

@@sleeper-cassie whatever the case is, there’s no escaping the comparison that they are a lesser version of the Nightsisters.

@SeanTanktop

5 күн бұрын

I'd bet they are a splinter element of them, kinda like DeathWatch in the Madalorian

@mattpryor216

4 күн бұрын

Not sure what you mean. These witches feel more like actual witches who can use the force but have a different outlook on it, and exist in the same universe as the Jedi. The Nightsisters literally perform fantasy book magic with cartoony green scooby doo fog while wearing pointed hats with black metal face paint.

@ericp1139

3 күн бұрын

@@mattpryor216 Star Wars is sci-fantasy. So the Nightsisters fit in perfectly. Star Wars is not supposed to feel realistic and modern.

The best series in years, the action on point, the acting stellar, the story amazing, that is why i love fallout so much.

@blackflagsnroses6013

6 күн бұрын

@@ianmoone4764they said Fallout

This show is kind of old school in that it isn’t giving us big payoffs every episode, it’s slow building a story that will land by the end instead of holding your hand every step of the way. I love this series so far, personally. It’s not Andor, and it isn’t perfect, but it’s really good and has some cool, bold swings for Star Wars.

@hellfish2309

6 күн бұрын

Counterpoint: I recently heard the argument that Star Wars is folklore, BUT isn’t a betrayal or failure by default when it isn’t; however it has to be efficiently deliberate about what it is from the first act: “Andor” was, this starts just as *vague as the “The Phantom Menace” *not elusive, but poorly defined

This show is absolute garbage

@jasonmarbach

6 күн бұрын

no u

@stubbywankenobi1

6 күн бұрын

Go away then stop bothering people who enjoy it. Nobody out here yucking your yum why you gotta do it to us

@daurydavis3983

5 күн бұрын

Yet you're here whining

@BasefordNFFC

5 күн бұрын

@@daurydavis3983 yes..and pissing people like you off in the process 😅

Im gessing nobody here is a star wars fan ... 🤔

@jackiecarson859

6 күн бұрын

Guess again.

@ajkeashon

5 күн бұрын

People love commenting this. If you enjoy any star wars content, you are literally a star wars fan. That's the great thing about the number of options people have now. You don't need to like everything they put out! 😊

“Your enemies will not warn you of their attack!” We have enemies? We fight these enemies. SO WE DO use the Force as a weapon! That is something we acknowledge that we do! This is a poorly written show, hypocritical and bland. Acolyte, Rebel Moon, and Atlas are the triumvirate of 2024’s Worst Sci-Fi Content

@jasonmarbach

6 күн бұрын

They see the force as a thread. They pull the thread. This isn’t complicated. You’re trying too hard.

@thephantompenance

6 күн бұрын

⁠@@jasonmarbachHardly. That’s not the point I’m illustrating. She explains that Force as a thread, then states (scoffingly, I might add) that some people use it as a weapon, but not the witches. And then not five minutes later, she proceeds to use it as a weapon. You’re right; it’s not complicated at all. It’s just lazy and dumb.

@jasonmarbach

6 күн бұрын

The actual line is “the thread is not a power you wield. It is a thread you pull.” She never said it wasn’t used in combat. You just have a very tiny, marble-smooth brain and have dedicated all of your extremely limited cognitive function to warping and twisting what she actually said to fit your idiotic pre-existing bias against the show. Go the fck away, you buffoon.

@kpgIRA

6 күн бұрын

​@@thephantompenance oops! Remember when yoda said that jedi only use the force for knowledge and defense? But we know they use it to attack all the time! Stupid, bad writing! You are an idiot. 😊

@stubbywankenobi1

6 күн бұрын

@@thephantompenancethey never said the thread can’t be used as a weapon and they said some call it a force. I mean how many different versions of Christianity are in the world today. Pretty clear on the comparison it’s going for

Wellllll in episode 4 that pronoun convo happened and was pretty heavy handed. I didn’t care of course and most of us are allied in wanting representation whether it be more strong women, or lesbian mothers, or more minority or whatever group needs representation buuuut we just want it done smart and intelligent and organic. Asking if a gopher guy was a he or a they took me out of it for a second. It was too on the nose and seemed just like lazy writing and corny.

@jasonmarbach

6 күн бұрын

Heavy handed? Osha was briefly - for about 3 words, total - confused about whether to refer to a non-human special character as “he” or “they” when no evident gender was present. What was heavy handed in that?

@MarcReyes_

6 күн бұрын

​@@jasonmarbach it was so un-heavy handed that I didn't even register it until I saw people complaining about it online. Truly a brief moment in the episode.

@jasonmarbach

6 күн бұрын

@@MarcReyes_ right?!

@mattpryor216

6 күн бұрын

There was no "pronoun convo", she said "he or they" because she wasn't sure what to call some alien creature she has never seen before.

@SeanTanktop

6 күн бұрын

yeah, 3 words is heavy handed? is asking what the gender of a dog is heavy handed if I don't know when my buddy gets a new doggo? Babe, this is a stretch

Where’s the rest of the bear?

@jackiecarson859

6 күн бұрын

Impatient you are.