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@kevthepoet

2 күн бұрын

I think the mysteries are frustrating a lot of people, because we don't really know if it breaks canon yet or how. Also we don't know who to root for and who to hate, the Sith is presented as sexy and sympathetic, the jedi are presented as arrogant and flawed and we don't know how bad their crimes are - but could have resulted in the deaths of several women and lying to a child. So short answer - I don't know how to feel until the show answers more questions so I don't know if I love it or hate it to be honest. That aside, there are scenes that look cheap, there are scenes that are cringe-worthy and there are scenes that are absolutely badass. So overall it's not terrible to me, just kinda mid but with these budgets and with this franchise things should not be this mid. This episode gets a 6/10 from me, the previous one gets a 7 and episodes 1-4 are all around the 5/10 mark for me. Like not terrible but far from amazing. For balance - I absolutely love what Disney has done with animation but apart from Andor the live action shows dipped in quality after Mando season 2. I have no problem with women or brown people in Star-Wars, I just want better writing and direction.

@rileygarraway87

Күн бұрын

Love your guys reaction venestras Padawan actually dies later on in comics because of that I believe that her Padawan will be next to die the Padawan that travels with her in this episode I'm talking about 😅

@rileygarraway87

Күн бұрын

​@@kevthepoetI get it but I'm still here for it

@rileygarraway87

Күн бұрын

Some people have a theory that sith could be one of the students to sith that trained Palpatine because Palpatines master had a few other students and they were pitted against each other and that theory is believable

@rileygarraway87

Күн бұрын

Some people also have a theory that venestra could be old master of sith explaining the WIP shape scar on his back

The biggest crime against the audience is really the 30 min episode format. I feel like I finally get engaged and then it’s over and we are now 6/8 episodes. A reoccurring D+ thing.

@hanshotfirst4214

2 күн бұрын

not even just disney plus these days

@Knightowl1980

2 күн бұрын

I don’t know what they are doing in the writers room so to speak. The shows are so poorly constructed, the pacing, structure, there’s never any momentum.

@chaosparticle4515

2 күн бұрын

​@@hanshotfirst4214Nah, it is. Look at HoTD. Similar budget, 50 min to hour plus episodes.

@justincarty4361

2 күн бұрын

There's more character development in one episode in Demon Slayer than the whole 6 episodes of the Acolyte.

@ZachBobBob

2 күн бұрын

It SUCKS man. Should've dropped it all at once.

Qimir must have been Vernestra's padawan at some point. She is over 100 years old, she doesn't look it, but Qimir's scar was made a focus and its shape looks almost like a strike from a whip. Then we have the intentional showing of Vernestra's lightwhip, just saying.

@rosiefitzgerald7865

2 күн бұрын

Yeah I think that’s obvious too I mean I think majority of us figured out in ep 4 from what mae said to him about the master not being able to find her without a tracker that it was going to be him so it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if it turns out she’s his master

@anonymousgirl4605

2 күн бұрын

Yeah, I didn't even put that together until I started seeing comments related to Vernestra. I think you're right.

@galanonim1178

2 күн бұрын

Good guess and I think that is good explanation why Ki Adi Mundi appearance in this show makes sense, bacause at the end everyone will think Qmir was just fallen Jedi, padawan of Varnestra from the past while he actually is apprientace of real Sith lord that most likely will be shown in finale.

@ArmandoMPR

2 күн бұрын

It’s a shame that the character of Vernestra kinda sucks. They gave her some weird things to say this episode. It felt like we were in another show for a second when that Jedi questioned whether she really wanted to go to Khofar.

@bigfrankfraser1391

2 күн бұрын

@@rosiefitzgerald7865 disney cant do subtle

I’ve said it nearly every episode but Lee Jung Jae is CARRYING. Qimir is a pretty good addition but Sol has been consistently the best part of practically every episode and in this one he shone even brighter. When ever the focus is on him the show is great.

In the novel "Star Wars: Darth Plagueis," it begins with a scene where Darth Plagueis and his master, Darth Tenebrous, are in a cavern filled with cortosis, sourrounded by giant rock cliffs, pristine beaches, and overlooking a vast northern sea. This planet is named Bal'demnic. I am 100% sure this is not a coincidence, and I am 99% certain that either Plagueis or Tenebrous will make an appearance in "The Acolyte" towards the end.

@alexp601

2 күн бұрын

I feel like the showrunner doesn't care at all about Plagueis or Tenebrous. But it'll be cool to see either of them

@Odell153

2 күн бұрын

Keep dreaming 😂

@Odell153

2 күн бұрын

@@alexp601I don’t want to see those made up aliens

@mjjfilms4597

2 күн бұрын

@@alexp601Leslye Headland is a big fan of the EU and said that this show was about the Sith, so I would be very surprised if either of them aren’t around during this time period.

@alexp601

2 күн бұрын

@@mjjfilms4597 Hopefully they don’t make Qimir or any other human character turn out to be Plagueis or Tenebris!

This is not a tv series. Its a movie split into 8 parts.

@alexp601

2 күн бұрын

Same as pretty much every other SW and MCU Disney+ show

@brianburton1843

2 күн бұрын

A 90 minute movie stretched out to four hours.

@tokiyakillsinsight160

2 күн бұрын

Not really. This show is actually structured like a traditional tv show. Each episode has its own plot that takes us to the next.

@alexp601

2 күн бұрын

@@tokiyakillsinsight160 Lol no it really is not structured like a traditional TV show.

@freebird6591

2 күн бұрын

Almost like acts in a film...​@@tokiyakillsinsight160

that jedi who keeps saying that what if sol did all this is annoying asf

@alexp601

2 күн бұрын

He is SO out of place in the episode. He feels like someone's friend who they decided to bring in on the day without any prep, and put him in the costume and gave him lines to say.

@ThunderBZaper

2 күн бұрын

Or are you just easily triggered? The characters seriously aren’t that annoying at all

@randomlyrj7900

2 күн бұрын

He wants to incriminate Sol sooo bad it's actually hilarious 😅

@Mjsports3730

Күн бұрын

@@ThunderBZaper I don’t think you know what triggered means cause that ain’t it

@mr.lightzplease9366

Күн бұрын

@@ThunderBZaperSol, Jekki, and Darth ripped are the only 3 decent characters written in this show. Even then Sol makes stupid decisions and the writing is poor

Sol and Qimir are really holding this show up rn. even with the subpar dialogue.

@rishabhpb

2 күн бұрын

Yeah. I think I've liked so much about this show but the dialogue is so undercooked.

@Soulreaper-1129

2 күн бұрын

Exactly

@BJackson-kg5dr

Күн бұрын

To me the show is a good example of good story and concepts but bad and/or rushed execution I love a lot in this show but so many good moments are put down by mid dialogue and awkward acting at moments

@LaCheeserie

19 сағат бұрын

@@BJackson-kg5drdefinitely needed a rewrite

The Vernestra line about hyperspace is a callback to how she has force visions when she is in hyperspace travel. From one of the High Republic novels.

@user-vt4hz2un6k

2 күн бұрын

Maybe fun line for book fans but general audience it just seemed kind of stupid. And that new guy Jedi was annoying af

@ArturoRamirez2003BS

Күн бұрын

@@user-vt4hz2un6knah the general audience didn’t give a fuc, people like you who cherry pick aren’t the general audience

@vintersaga2177

Күн бұрын

​@@user-vt4hz2un6k I thought he was pretty charming. Why do you find him annoying?

@LightspeedLad

Күн бұрын

And I’d say from what happened to her in the first book she appeared (A Test of Courage)

@sakisaotome6753

Күн бұрын

​@@user-vt4hz2un6k the show is written for everyone. new people who are unfamiliar with the high republic era and those who are. i didn't get it but i figured there was some context i was unaware of. turns out yes there was she gets force visions, which the jedi generally dont like. so she's uncomfortable about doing it. plus the fact he's shocked about it means she's doesn't go out in the field anymore almost ever it seems. she's pretty much a full time politician rather than someone who is going out into the galaxy and seeing what is happening. which means that she will be more likely to throw someone like sol under the bus if she thinks it can help the jedi politically especially since there is a major motion against the jedi on the senate floor. so there was a lot of meaning for what on the surface looks like a light joke.

There are no butts in space, but there's always Uranus!!

@michaeltessler

Күн бұрын

Underrated comment

The unknown planet is meant to be Bal’demnic which was a planet with rocky tropical islands and cortosis deposits from the Darth Plageuis novel where Plageuis and his master used it. It does give off the vibes of Ahch-To though.

Luke is wearing Levi's bleached white in the original movie. Source: Mark Hamill.

@aliengranpa

2 күн бұрын

No shit? Excellent fun fact!

@sakisaotome6753

Күн бұрын

im not sure why either he or osha wearing jeans is such a big deal to them. they live in a faster than light galactic society. osha is a blue collar worker in an illegal job working and maintaining a ship. she wears the cloths an everyday person might, jeans happen to fall into that catagory.

Sorry, you can't say "Disney's tone" while watching Basel when there is a moon full of mini bears that defeated the Empire

@Lillian.Gao.

2 күн бұрын

Hahahah THANK YOU. I myself am only a casual fan of Star Wars canon just like Greg, but any casual fan should associate Star Wars from inception til now with cute teddy bear ppl.

@cheeseknees9606

2 күн бұрын

I think alot of people forget that Padame dies from a broken heart in ep.3.... people take Starwars far too seriously. It's a show about space wizards.

@JADub87

2 күн бұрын

You're speaking truth. I've noticed that when people brag about SW content it's usually around legends material, A New Hope, & The Empire strikes back. The prequels just started getting love. A lot of that is due to The Clone Wars cartoons. Disney is doing fine, they don't always hit the mark but as a casual, I am satisfied.

@MrJahbeez

Күн бұрын

Different time, different tone. Next argument.

@Mjsports3730

Күн бұрын

@@MrJahbeez What you stated did not disprove anything

Framing Sol would make sense on why the Jedi is even more dogmatic by the time of the Prequels. It shows someone like Sol can fall to the dark side.

“Thirst trap Sith Lord” ahahaha that was early

I do want to say, about Sol not recognizing, I think Mae spelled it out. Sol sees what he wants to see, and he wants to see Osha.

@cheeseknees9606

2 күн бұрын

You can literally see the fear & anger in his face. Our boy Sol is clouded by the dark side.

@NotSoSvenn

2 күн бұрын

he was very frazzled on the ship with mae around. His guilt was taking his focus away

@jacobjackson2787

2 күн бұрын

Just made sol look stupid, mae was making it obvious from the beginning that she wasn't osha, u'd think he could sense that its a different person, or seeing as he can apparently read minds he would read her mind when he separates from twins and and she comes back acting weird and he even gives her a weird look u would think in that moment hed read her mind or sense her but watevr not the biggest issue with this show

@cheeseknees9606

2 күн бұрын

@jacobjackson2787 At the beginning of the episode, Sol was punching tables and throwing hugs around... he is in an absolute spiral of emotions. He'd just watched his entire squad, including his young padawan, get butchered. Then gets his mind twisted by the stranger.... Sol probably could not sense a shit in his own pants at this moment in time.

@jacobjackson2787

2 күн бұрын

@@cheeseknees9606 I guess I'll accept that even tho he still was visually suspicious immediately upon her arrival but didn't read her mind but whatever. The bigger problem I had with Sol this episode is he could've told the Jedi about the sith but didn't jus so he could go tell a story he could've told at any point over the last 2 decades.. that's absolutely stupid and only happened so Leslie can say the Jedi didn't know about sith still.

Gregg, " They wouldn't do that..." Me staring back at him in Ahsoka

Also vernestra getting "sick" during hyperspace is a reference to high republic books where she got visions during hypersspace travel.

Man I really appreciate Michael's thoughtful and articulate analysis at the beginning of the breakdown.

@kevthepoet

2 күн бұрын

It was wayyyyyy too long, Greg literally stood up, walked away and sat back down and Mike was still mid monologue...

Unless the episodes are getting cut in half by executives, the writers don’t know how to pace or structure an episode of television. The last three installments have been half episodes.

@hordeofswords

2 күн бұрын

Since Disney+ went to a commercial subscription option almost all their shows have pacing issues because you have people used to writing fo cable or film trying to figure out where to stick commercial breaks.

so green girl was the master of the good place guy. thats why shes said shes personally going to take care of it

@omincat2703

Күн бұрын

why do you think she's his master

@Derek4k

Күн бұрын

@@omincat2703 his scars by his former master looking like whips scars, or curved. the fact shes taking on this case for him personally (she said it). the fact he was a padwan a long time ago and shes over 100 years old.

This might be simultaneously my favourite episode and least favourite episode. Every single thing with Osha and the Sith, here for it. The melodrama, the thinly veiled romance, the first performances that feel human, the exploration of the dark side from a sith, Manny's yoked ass traps, everything. Then there's the crap with the furball and Mae that i could really not give a single fuck about. Oh the droid is evil now so its red because thats the factory settings apparently. Sol is the only reason that storyline isnt something i just fast forwarded thru. And then theres the rest of the Jedi. I don't think i care at all. The thing is, i love the IDEAS. I love that the Jedi need to play politics, i love that they need to be imperfect to maintain their version of peace, i love that theyre willing to throw Sol under the bus to maintain everyone else. Jedi are supposed to emotion free, that means they are inherently utilitarian and i love the IDEA of that being the case. But also the way the show goes about doing that and exploring that idea, i couldnt care less about them

@ZachBobBob

2 күн бұрын

TOTAALLLLYYYY agree

@jacobjackson2787

2 күн бұрын

That osha stuff bothered me so much, why would she have been good this whole time, watch this guy kill her friends, then he just says a couple of pretty weak lines like "when you lose everything is when u become free" , oh ya that would definitely convince me to think about joining the guy who killed my friends, and jus like that she doesn't kill him when he gives her the chance and is at least thinking of joining him. Absolutely stupid as stupid gets cant believe so many people saying that was good.

@BTBSOUNDS

2 күн бұрын

@@jacobjackson2787 I think we'll learn that she wasn't all good the entire time. I mean there's a reason she "failed" right? And that she isn't a Jedi anymore. Maybe we'll find out that she wasn't as Jedi inclined as she thought herself which makes it easier for her to join the dark, hell maybe she's even felt the draw of the dark side before and that's why she got booted and why she cut herself off from the force entirely at the start of the show. I'm making assumptions for the show, yes, but with the Osha/Sith scenes in this episode they've earned at least the benefit of the doubt from me, personally.

@jacobjackson2787

2 күн бұрын

@@BTBSOUNDS i wasn't saying shes always been good I meant she's been good for the whole show so far, and u jus completely ignored the part where he killed her friends, be honest tho would someone who killed ur friends telling u "when u lose everything is when u become free" would that honestly make u not only spare him but think of joining him? There's no chance. Nothing he said was convincing at all. I'm glad some people enjoyed it at least I guess but it's insanely illogical to me.

@BTBSOUNDS

2 күн бұрын

@@jacobjackson2787 well you say they're friends. We didn't see a single friendly interaction between them. They're no different than just random people that happened to go to the same uni

I loved the episode. It explores this morbid curiosity I often have about people that hurt me. I want to understand them. I think this showcased that perfectly. And I related to Osha. Because Qimir intentionally leaving his guard down would disarm me too. And I fully understood why Sol wasn't picking up on Mae replacing Osha right away. He was distraught. He was an unbalanced mess. That could have something to do with why the ship was malfunctioning so much. Someone so strong in the force breaking down... causing everything to break down around him.

@H_D_Walker

Күн бұрын

Agree. These people just yappin without using their damn brains. Actually if you use your brain then everything makes sense. The only thing I don't like about this is that the episodes are too short.

That british jedi dude must be someone's nephew or something he's awful 😂

I feel like I'm watching a different show because to me the dialog was very well thought out. Hearing what Qimer was saying about the dark side and losing attachments and then cutting to Sol experience all this I thought was brilliant. I also think you guys missed that Sol obviously knew it was Mae all along and so him saying he would turn himself in and tell the truth was him setting Mae up to see her reaction. He knew she was about to try and stab him which is why he made her fly the ship.

@anonymousgirl4605

2 күн бұрын

Holy shit, I didn't put that together. 😮

@jacobjackson2787

2 күн бұрын

What did qimir say that would make u consider joining the person that just killed ur friends in front of u? Be honest

@TripleeVFX

2 күн бұрын

@@jacobjackson2787exactly, it makes no sense. Idk what OP is on about

@Jiraiyashouse666

2 күн бұрын

​@@jacobjackson2787this exactly 💯. I think Yord and Jekki were more than friends... they were love interests... but oh well, they're dead now so I'll worship their killer.

@jacobjackson2787

2 күн бұрын

@@TripleeVFX notice how when u say something they can't refute or put them in a position where their response will prove it doesn't make sense they don't respond and just keep going around saying it's great. Constantly happens wen I'm going back and forth with people and I checkmate em. I don't get people.

The difference between HBO hotd and prude american Disney 😂

@ZachBobBob

2 күн бұрын

What, do you wanna see some BJs in The Acolyte or something like the last HOTD episode?

@MrJahbeez

Күн бұрын

If you wanna see nudity and sex in Star Wars, I'm pretty sure there's a whole porn "parody" version out there for you.

@AllGreyEverything

Күн бұрын

Disney is a family brand and so is SW. There's nothing wrong with that. When it comes to HotD, a background actor sucking on a prosthetic penis isn't edgy or mature. It's juvenile and it looked absolutely terrible.

@dinahgraham4964

19 сағат бұрын

One is a children network, and the other at one point was showing porn 😂 there is a difference between the two companies.

@nudlezo.4627

11 сағат бұрын

@@dinahgraham4964 yeah classical American culture where it’s ok for children to see a child getting stabbed and a neck snapped, but behold a child seeing a nipple or some other body part. But I guess as a European I don’t have to understand this logic 🤷🏻‍♀️ /s

I think the biggest issue is the writers have 8 30-minute episodes, and a complicated plot. Mandalorian was 10 30-minute episodes and a straight forward plot. I, for one, am glad Disney let us have something more 'adult'. I wish they gave the people working on it time to tell their story.

@BJackson-kg5dr

Күн бұрын

Yea I think it would be ok to have 6 episodes if they combine them right and give them more time to work on dialogue and cgi for certain moments

@larynOneka8080

Күн бұрын

This show should have been a minimum of 10 episodes.

If you close your eyes, Qimir sounds like Mark Ruffalo 😂

@darkprinceofdorne

2 күн бұрын

"That’s my secret Osha, I’m always angry."

@Knightowl1980

2 күн бұрын

@@darkprinceofdorne “twin suns getting real low big guy “

@Julie111110

Күн бұрын

So right

So do we think this series will stick the landing?

@ThemboCinema

2 күн бұрын

episode 6 was too short of coarse but I liked the choices made “that’s great kid! don’t get cocky”

@ihavethehighground732

2 күн бұрын

Nahhhh lore ruined.

@hanshotfirst4214

2 күн бұрын

@@ihavethehighground732 literally in no way is but sure

@lathamlawsnance

2 күн бұрын

Probably not

@Copyrightme81

2 күн бұрын

Hell no

Welcome back Michael!! Thank you Coy for spotting in last week, but damn we missed Mr. Tessler.

@ssotkow

2 күн бұрын

That said, what a shame Michael & Greg focused more on the negatives for the majority of the outro. Honestly, that may be what some viewers wish to hear, but not for me. I'd more intrigued to hear Star Wars experts like Michael speak on his elaborate theories about Qimir's past, his potential master, or the larger mysteries surrounding Sol or the Brendok coverup. Perhaps life circumstances of our beloved reactors may have affected this viewing experience. In that case, we give you our blessings. If not, the overwhelming negativity bias may be a product of succumbing to the herd mentality trend of critiquing the show, which would be unfortunate. In either case, I hope ep 7 viewing wouldn't continue this downward cyclic trend. Just my two cents. Cheers.

@MichaelDooley907

2 күн бұрын

@@ssotkow thats why i prefer blind wave. theyre top notch

@cam6406

2 күн бұрын

No we didn't - don't speak for all of us.

@michaeltessler

2 күн бұрын

Aw missed you too! I’m sorry I was a bit more critical than usual - I think I was holding onto some frustrations 😅 I’m sure I’ll be back to my usual positive/speculative self next week!

@Mushie_G

2 күн бұрын

@@ssotkow They focused on the negatives, because this show is fucking awful. If you like this, you must like a lot of cash grabs and b movies. The acting and decision making in this show is top tier retardation.

I loved this episode. The setup of the mysterious island potentially being the island where tenebrous and plagueis went to mine cortosis is amazing. I think they are setting up to bring them more into canon possibly

Vern getting sick in hyperspace is from the high republic novels. She started experiencing intense force visions during hyperspace. They must not have ever relented and she had to tell other people besides just her Master and her own Apprentice

Like how disney star wars watcher is trying there best not to call this garbage. 🤣

I think Sol knew it was Mae the whole time.

@willfilmon182

10 сағат бұрын

So Sol knowingly abandoned Osha on a hostile planet, as did Mae? Doesn't he say at the end of the 6th episode that they have to find and save Osha? I think he also implies Osha is with Qimir, not sure how he knows that.

I'm LOVING Manny Jacinto's character in everything he does in this show thirst trap and all XD I was surprised by the Jedi being unalived in the last episode but I dont feel emotionally connected to their characters anyway, especially Yord who was super annoying. I actually liked Mae a bit more, Osha seems annoying and on a high horse at times. I need the TRUTH to be revealed !!

21:37 Didn't we see Dexter Jettster's buttcrack in Attack of the Clones? I remember his pants drooping down and him using his arms to pull them up when he hugged Obi-Wan. But I don't recall 100% if his buttcrack was shown or not!

@michaeltessler

Күн бұрын

You are absolutely correct, I think my brain did me the great service of erasing that from the Jedi archives hahah

This episode was “Guilty as sin”-the Star Wars mash-up and I loved it 😂 the Qimir/Osha scenes are amazing. Kinda iffy on the “ooo the droid is evil now because it has red eyes” stuff but overall I like where this *could* be heading. I hope they can fully develop this to its potential

Every Disney plus show but Loki and mando feel like they could have just been a movie .

Watch them completely fuck the Lore and have Qimir be Sidious in training.

BLAH BLAH Manny Jacinto tho. That man is hotter than Anakin on Mustafar. Also, Greg, cute furry creatures are NOT “Disney.” They are “Star Wars.” As in Chewie and Wookies, as in the Ewoks, as in every creature besides Jabba the Hutt

I haven't really complained about the run time but what the hell was that? I thought you guys were kidding around and edited in some credits..

Darth Thirst Trap has me sold lol

My theory from the start is that Sol is a master of the dark side and is the main villain of the Acolyte. It's well written because I thought it was obvious but almost everyone in videos and comments seem to love him because he's the "good guy". He reminds me of a certain Palpatin. May & Osha's birth seems to mirror a little to Anakin's birth (born without a father) as well as their importance with/to the force. I think this show's main point is to show that there is always two sides to every coin & that the jedi have history with falling blind to the rise of the dark side. I can write a book but I'll leave it at that.

Vendestra went to investigate to set up that she’s Qimir’s old Jedi master.

@jamesargenta1946

2 күн бұрын

yes plus the fact they showed her whip

I know he's only 36, but I think its time to refer to Qimir as Big Bad Sith Zaddy :)

There are a significant number of people who are jazzed about ALL of the episodes so far, not just the big lightsaber fight one.

The darkest thing Mae has done all season is resetting that droid. She basically killed her sister's pet

I’m just happy there is an Asian with a light saber. I’m just happy there is someone who looks like me in this world.

@tracey5745

Күн бұрын

.......

@willfilmon182

10 сағат бұрын

I am also happy you found someone who looks like you in this world. But they won't look exactly like you unless you're like Osha/Mae and have an identical twin, ha, ha. Seriously though, I'm pretty sure that the attack on the Death Star in R.o.t.J. had 1 or 2 Asian fighter pilots but, yeah, I don't remember them being shown holding lightsabers. Used to know a wiccan but I doubt she would've been into the space witch chanting of 3rd episode. I've got above average body hair and a girl once jokingly compared me to a Wookie, ha, ha.

This episode was meh but Lee Jung-jae as Master Sol is a great actor! 👍

I've begun to suspect that Qimir/the Stranger may be the Acolyte of either Darth Tenebrous or Darth Plagueis, and he's looking for his own Acolyte to help him fully become Sith.

@sakisaotome6753

Күн бұрын

tenebrous did break the rule of two and had 2 apprentices so he could very well be one of those two.

The dialogue in this episode was actually very good compared to the others. The main problem that this show has had is how the story is split into eight short episodes. The pacing is meant for binging, not watching one episode a week.

You can’t see anything out of the helmet. Really shows how strong he is in the force to do what he did last episode with it on

@robertagren9360

Күн бұрын

They use these helmets to train new jedi in the future

@paidhits1037

Күн бұрын

@@robertagren9360 yes training but not combat like he went through with like 8 + Jedi. I think the training this way probably makes for better Jedi and more force intuition, but at the level he pulled off is something. I know Luke practices the same way in A New Hope.

All I’m going to say is Cortosis was mined in the same planet Darth Bane existed, or legend says. Cortorsis is extremely rare and to have a large vein of it…plausible Banes planet

Thought this episode was dope, yeah I don’t really care about the Sol-Mai story but the Qimir-Osha story is so cool to me that idc

I kinda agree with Ur criticisms on the show. I feel the show has a lot of potential with it's concepts but the execution has been poor and when I compare the show to some of the high republic books in phase 1 I currently started, the high republic books are giving me what I thought the show was gonna deliver, a new era in the jedi and a fresh take on what it means to be one. I like watching the show, I have fun but it's definitely lacking in areas. It doesn't make me think of it as the high point of star wars but it also doesn't make me think, well I'm done with star wars. Mostly I think the show is kinda just mediocre which is a pity as I hope this doesn't discourage star wars from moving past the Skywalker era more

if you notice venestra uses a lightsaber whip and the mark on the back of the sith is a whip slash i think when osha said jedi master she was correct and that it was the green lady that stabbed him in the back with that purple lightsaber whip

Your reaction to this episode really surprised me. This was the first episode I was actually engaged in and made me look forward to the next episode.

Either too few episodes, or they are not long enough. Feels like they are squeezing too much into too little. There are more interesting things than actual payoffs.

Maybe Venestra did the crime or ordered it and Sol has been trying to cover for her. Im pretty sure Venestra is Qimirs old master

i feel like they'll use the umbermoth excuse first which will convince most jedi but then i'm sure there will be 2 or 3 on the council that wont buy it, thats when she'll have to throw someone under the bus.

The whole bathing scene when you guys were chanting for a butt cheek moment, I couldn't stop thinking about Andor season 1 with the "one way out" chant and replacing it with "just one butt, just one butt" in my head.

I have been looking forward for this

🌪️ Lucas film has got a big problem on hand. They are trying to appease a fan base that is literally generations apart. You have fans that are very young all the way to as old as I am in my 50s. Writing stories to cover that complete age range is very hard to do. the best way to go about it is within the universe storylines for one group of the generation and create a separate group of stories for the older generation.

@burnt-croissants

Күн бұрын

i think i agree. you have fans of the og trilogy, fans of the prequels and even younger people who were introduced to star wars through the sequel trilogy. disney is trying to appease everyone at the same time, but the issue is, each group likes wildly different things about star wars

@willfilmon182

10 сағат бұрын

People tend to like quality no matter their age.

i believe that qimir is very very old and isn't as young as we think

“It’s kind of odd to assume the gender of the sith lord” a man in 2024 😂

WAIT. Could that tiny little creature of his be the bigger looking mammals Luke gets milk from in TLJ?? They look extremely familiar and i swear this is Ahch-To.

One thing to remember is that Qimir is a Sith. And of the "Rule of 2"-era, no less. Whatever he says, especially about himself, should be called into question. After all, Darth Bane's "Rule of 2"-Sith didn't survive and manage to further their grand plan until Palpatine successfully completed it by being honest and honorable..

Why can't we see Butts! We can see necks broken but no butts!

I’m starting to suspect that maybe Qimir/The Stranger isn’t the true lord of the Sith but rather an apprentice that failed to live up to the standards of the true master. Like he was a Jedi Youngling but somehow fell into the hands of the true Sith Lord. And he may actually be older than he looks because according to Palpatine his master Darth Plagueis he could influence the Force to prolong life, which would also explain why none of the Jedi recognized him.

@marshsundeen

2 күн бұрын

He was a Padawan of Vernestra.

@thedarkknight2221

2 күн бұрын

@@marshsundeen good theory. Maybe he was betrayed by Vernestra, found by a Sith Lord, trained in the dark side, and now wants to keep that legacy going.

@willfilmon182

10 сағат бұрын

He is a Padawan of the short weird sniffer pronoun rodent alien who acts that way in order to hide the fact that he is secretly a Sith lord.

NO MORE SOY FOR YOU!

Seems they opened a wallmart on tattooine, they sell lightsaber proof jeans.

This episode was so intriguing yet so frustrating at the same time. I think they actually have a plan for where the franchise is going, but they're not really telling us. There are so many theories about what's really happening. Could Sol be on the dark side? Is Qimir Vernestra's former Padawan? Is he more than what he seems, perhaps Plagueis using Sith alchemy to disguise his true self? Or could Qimir be the first Ren? So many questions and no reveals it's all surface level stuff. I also wish they would make these episodes longer; we need more time for development. This show might have been better as a binge-watch. I think Dave's work is guiding the direction, but they're not giving us the clear, mapped out plan like the MCU.

@rockerojerez349

2 күн бұрын

My question is master Sol traitor?? 🤔🤔

@Typecast-L

2 күн бұрын

"I think they actually have a plan for where the franchise is going." You cannot be real, m8. The writers even said themselves they had no clue what they were going for at the time they were writing it. They absolutely just "winged" it. It's why there are so many lore-breaking elements in the Acolyte. I mean, its not even funny anymore, they ruined it for so many people and continue to call everyone that says anything a "racist review bomber". Disney's "plan" for Star Wars is more bad acting and, worse, more DEI/ESG nonsense forced down our throats. This whole show is a cringefest unlike any I've ever seen before. I really cannot take anyone seriously when they say they think the acting or story is good, honestly.

@marshsundeen

2 күн бұрын

Leslye Headlund is very versed in Lore your own biases are showing. ​@@Typecast-L

@spencerrr9878

2 күн бұрын

@@Typecast-Lthen if you just HATE the show and people who are not straight white people SO much and your just SO convinced that the entirety of Star Wars canon is destroyed (it’s not please touch grass) then WHY THE F ARE YOU STILL WATCHING IT

@willfilmon182

10 сағат бұрын

I would buy the writers a keg of beer if the short tracker pronoun rodent alien turns out to be Qimir's Sith master.

FYI If you're wondering about the travel sickness comment regarding Venestra, it's because when she was younger she used to have powerful force visions when travelling through hyperspace. It's explained in the books/comics

Oh, there are butts in space alright... Ventress and the night sister warriors in Clone Wars sure had butts, even if covered!

the story of the acolyte for the next two episodes: Qimir, a former Jedi apprentice turned rogue, is currently on the planet Bal'demnic where he will eventually be killed by Plagueis in the final episode, along with Vernestra and Osha, effectively concealing the Sith's presence all along. On the other side of the plot, Mae kills SoL and eventually becomes a Jedi. SoL takes the blame for all the mess. The end.

@sackthebastard

2 күн бұрын

How would Mae be allowed to become a Jedi after this? She is far too old. They’re not just going to let her walk in a be like hey I’m a Jedi now. Ridiculous.

@b29ak2007

2 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@sakisaotome6753

Күн бұрын

nah i think vernestra survives and covers it up.

Shoutout to Michael for keeping up with the reactions. I personally love his attitude and knowledge about Star Wars. Hope everything's alright with him.

@michaeltessler

Күн бұрын

You guys are too important me for me to jump starcruiser mid-series!

This is legit a movie cut into 8 episodes. That’s what’s so annoying about all this

How long was Osha out for that she was moved planets? Like you were just pushed against a rock.

@jaxr2958

2 күн бұрын

No more inconvenient than being hit by a car I expect.

I am legitimately confused by the number of people whose suspension of disbelief apparently ends with "haircut". I never want to see any of these people watch the animated Mulan.

@Mushie_G

2 күн бұрын

Mulan was actually good though. This isn't.

@TrueGamer22887

21 сағат бұрын

It was such a lame lazy trope to use and makes 0 sense whatsoever even forgetting the haircut. How does mae know how to act like osha, who she’s had one conversation with in 16 years. These are two twins separated on extremely different paths and they look act and sound exactly the same.

The little creatures on the planet, I think they evolve into those creatures in last Jedi where Luke drank milk from them

10:22 the similarity to Maul’s statement when Ezra asks him if he was once a Jedi (paraphrasing here) “i was once a force wielder, long ago long long ago.”

What if his master is Darth Raven, and he’s been preserved for 1000 years.

If this was made by Krippke and the team from The Boys, we would've gotten Darth Cheeks and Sith Junk. Q'mir "You..want this,don't you?Goood..I can feeel your thirst..Do it! I am unarmed.Grab my junk.Yank me off..And take your sister's place at my side!! It is unavoidable..Like your sister once was,you are now.Mine."

This show feels like it had good creative behind it but was destroyed by producers

To quote Eric Weinstein, “If nothing else comes from this mountain of incomprehensible babble but [all time great saber fights and a cool new sith] then it will all be worth it.” Ok, maybe a paraphrase of his response to Terrence Howard but the point stands. There are at least two good things inside this mountain of maneur

I personally am loving this show. I'm typically not a fan of the standard high fantasy side preferring when tropes are done well or broken. Like new hope, love empire, hate everything else till Last Jedi, Rouge One and Andor. This though hits for me. Also I think a good representation of the Jedi at this time can be taken from a quote from Dragon Age Inquisition by Solas on organizations being inherently corrupt. "you think organizations to be inherently corrupt?" "Given enough time, yes. To survive an organization must devote resources to maintain itself. Those resources accumulate until the original purpose, no matter how pure, is lost." "You make the Seekers(Jedi) sound like a mindless beast." "A mindless beast, no matter how mindless, will die and give way to a successor. An organization is eternal. There are always corrupt Men who hoard power for their own gain and there are always honourable men who hoard power to fight them."

"Are jeans officially Star Wars canon?" Well, Luke's pants in Episode IV were just spray-painted jeans, so...

@LeChaunce

2 күн бұрын

(They may have been dyed rather than spray-painted, but they're definitely jeans.)

the luke planet?

@DanV900

2 күн бұрын

It is not and is actually a planet from the Darth Plageuis novel called Bal'demnic. It is a planet that has cortosis deposits with rocky tropical islands.

I think this was my favourite episode.

I like the show. I am intrigued by what Sol is doing, and was Vernestra the master of Qimir?

They’re in Ach-to’s sister planet, Hauk-Tuah!

@michaeltessler

2 күн бұрын

Incredible comment 😂

I recently saw an article talking about Luke Skywalker's pants in A New Hope. They were dyed Levi jeans.

It’s not Luke’s planet Ach-to, they told us it’s an unknown planet by writing it as a subtitle haha

I think you two nailed the biggest issue I’m personally having. Nothing feels earned with these characters for me. After 6 episodes, I feel like I’ve learned nothing about Mae and Osha that isn’t surface level. What do these characters even really want? And why? In the span of a day, Osha is suddenly flirting (literally) with the dark side when she’s shown zero inclination of it before? And Mae seems like she wants something different every episode. I can’t even describe their individual personalities other than “ones kinda bad and one isn’t“. You can insert your personal rationalizations of why you assume the characters are doing things -- but the show does a really bad job of showing WHY they’re making the decisions they’re making. Feels like a perfect example of writers trying so hard to hit on themes and mystery that the characters became a total afterthought. Just my opinion though, not here to argue with anyone whose digging it.

I think I finally understand what I dislike about this show, Osha has no motivations. Why did she want to be a Jedi (after knowing them for a day instead of following the fellowship of the scissor)? Why did she quit the order? Why was she a meknit (or whatever)? Why would she want to become an acolyte?

@jaxr2958

2 күн бұрын

Yeah, I think it's the 'mystery' format. There's a lot of focus on the Sith, but the main plot is probably SW twin stuff and balance and something about how they were created. That Yin/Yang stuff they had going as kids.

I don’t think Qimir was in Stasis, I’m guessing he is actually Darth Plagueis.

@Kaislee

2 күн бұрын

Also the pronunciation of Skellig is Skell-ig (as in Igloo).

@brandonbaerga4972

2 күн бұрын

Isn’t plaguies being a munn canon

@Kaislee

2 күн бұрын

@@brandonbaerga4972 I’m not sure if Fantasy Flight Games’ TTRPG is deemed as canon, it’s not like they haven’t changed things before.

@jasonmarbach

2 күн бұрын

@@brandonbaerga4972No, neither Plagueis (Muun) nor Tenebrous (Bith) species are canon.

@MaiiOrduna

2 күн бұрын

​@@jasonmarbach aren't Munns the ones in the banking clan from TCW? They are canon.

Qimir is taking a different form in my opinion. If he’s been around awhile he could be a different species.

Many people say that ep3 may be one of the worst tv episodes, given such a large budget, in history. I would argue that this episode was worse. And wow, now we all know for a fact that Amandla Stenberg did not test for her characters, because if she did, she would not have been cast.

@TrueGamer22887

21 сағат бұрын

There’s an interview where Amandla (mae and osha) talks about how the show was literally made for her. She was picked for the role before there was a script. Extremely weird to me. Also the green lady is headlands partner and a huge character in the high republic books. I’m sure they were both picked because they were the best for the role

How did they think they were going to balance so many characters and story lines in 8 30 minute episodes? The weakest characters have been given the most time, and the strongest have been glossed over till now. WTF.

Love you guys!!!!!! 😂. Thanks for sharing