The Absolute Terrible State of Nimbus Sea Balancing (Arcane Odyssey)

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this is truly a terrible update for balance 'the day arcane odyssey is balance is the day pigs fly away from their role as balance team members' - arisell
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  • @Carepsky
    @Carepsky2 ай бұрын

    And yet the testers get mad at you when you point their flaws 😭

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    testers be useless we just gotta get used to it

  • @cassiovieira2939
    @cassiovieira29392 ай бұрын

    testers: -remove the gimmick that made certain magics unique -gut 2 of the most used fighting styles -nerf mobility -buff size -"nerf" attack speed

  • @notell2246

    @notell2246

    2 ай бұрын

    FR

  • @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    2 ай бұрын

    Tbh stuns shouldn't have been removed but definitely needed a nerf cause stun builds were irritating af

  • @katraena5225

    @katraena5225

    Ай бұрын

    @@wrought-ironheroEMIYA Honestly as a main of lightning id rather have them gone from arcane, they would inevitably over centralize the meta i think, why use more thoughtful magic when you can remove your enemies rights to even avoid your attacks at an admittedly VERY small cost to damage, the stuns were short, yes, but this game is very fast, and it only takes a single micromistake before youre absolutely screwed

  • @RedNumber19
    @RedNumber192 ай бұрын

    When will vetex take a moment to just actually play his game normally and realise how incredibly buggy, poorly optimised and unbalanced it is? Also I will tear my skin off if we don’t get a search option for inventory and inventory optimisations so that each icon isn’t a 3d object

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    vetex is king of 'interesting' game design

  • @sanscomic4226

    @sanscomic4226

    Ай бұрын

    He should play the game without using cataclysm for once on an alt account,just to see.

  • @pixy7593

    @pixy7593

    Ай бұрын

    I love how the answer for inventory being a laggy mess was bloating the system with 300 sets and new items.

  • @teddyhiesnberg4944
    @teddyhiesnberg49442 ай бұрын

    600 damage dealing crystal warlock with 1.7k hp in this update is crazy

  • @HeroOfBen10

    @HeroOfBen10

    2 ай бұрын

    thats me!

  • @Chowman741

    @Chowman741

    2 ай бұрын

    Iron leg upright deals 300 dam without dam boost

  • @kiryukazuma7960

    @kiryukazuma7960

    2 ай бұрын

    Thats fine now since armor piercing exists and we can bring the fight right back to them. The main issue are the warriors with sparrow thrust.

  • @canon07

    @canon07

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@kiryukazuma7960 I agree sparrow thrust is the only where it's unavoidable and giving the warrior more advantage also whirlwind is on the list also.

  • @crowsong1

    @crowsong1

    Ай бұрын

    bruh that just 1.12 ironleg crystal warlock

  • @bowldawg4394
    @bowldawg43942 ай бұрын

    Yeah the way the game's balancing is handled right now is just a complete mess. I know Vetex isn't focused on making Arcane Odyssey a "competitive fighting game" but there should be a point where people don't feel obligated to change their builds every update just to chase a meta that's gonna get completely changed the next update anyway.

  • @Quiet_0

    @Quiet_0

    2 ай бұрын

    Like the only people that change their build are the people that chase meta

  • @Sleepy_Kyra

    @Sleepy_Kyra

    2 ай бұрын

    I think you would really like deepwoken

  • @GuardiaGuy

    @GuardiaGuy

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Sleepy_Kyranot

  • @RedNumber19

    @RedNumber19

    2 ай бұрын

    Idc about balancing in terms of pvp, as long as it’s useable for pve it’s good. However, thermo fist isn’t even viable to fight against lvl 90 npcs cause of how bad it is (and it’s my favourite fighting style)

  • @karaltar7914

    @karaltar7914

    2 ай бұрын

    But the thing is, if AO isn’t supposed to be a competitive fighting game why can’t you turn off pvp?

  • @fraggnum__9660
    @fraggnum__96602 ай бұрын

    After talking to balance team members (because they are at their wits end and just telling people how the back end works at this point) it seems like there are two issues: 1. Vetex does not listen to the balance team. AT ALL. Like, they will advise him on basic shit and he ignores them. And we might be heading into a spam meta because they proposed updates to intensity and vetex was like NAHHH WE ADDING COOLDOWN REDUCTION FUCK INTENSITY LOOOOLLLL 2. I recently found out the testers ONLY test pve. They don’t brother to test pvp, or at least only a small number of testers bother to. -once again, this comes from members of the balance team themselves who have slowly stopped giving a shit lmao

  • @fakemuthaphukkinG

    @fakemuthaphukkinG

    2 ай бұрын

    Liking and commenting to get this higher in the comment section

  • @AydaniaBall

    @AydaniaBall

    2 ай бұрын

    same

  • @MeltingLove_

    @MeltingLove_

    Ай бұрын

    balance team when they need balance

  • @pixy7593

    @pixy7593

    Ай бұрын

    How the fuck they only test PVE and they nerfed Thermo? For me is either you lying you supposedly interviewed one of them, or they do not shit of what they're doing.

  • @fraggnum__9660

    @fraggnum__9660

    Ай бұрын

    @@pixy7593 vetex does still push some changes from time to time. It was clear as day after a while that thermo was pretty fucking broken, and I can confirm as a user of thermo myself. Thermo became a hyper meta pick in PvP because it was simply statistically superior to every other fystyle. It may have had negative size, but it had .875x damage (+ 35% burn) and 1.3x speed. This has led to the balance team pushing for it to be nerfed patch after patch after patch. That’s insanely fucking strong. The fact thermo can’t start the fight charged now gives thermo a weak opening period for players to capitalize and “get ahead” before the thermo starts steamrolling until the balance team can successfully find a way to balance an fstyle with such ludicrously high stats. (As the heat maintenance style wouldn’t really be worth it otherwise…) Anyways, I’ve mainly talked to metapoly (who I’m pretty sure is on hiatus now so don’t bother him), raptorcaptain (also hard to get a hold of, I know him through clans), and J565. J565 is pretty much retired atm but he’s still involved to a decent degree behind the scenes and is the easiest guy to get a hold of, if you are interested in asking them any questions about what is going on. When metapoly’s back, if you have any deeper questions that haven’t already been answered then you can ping him with those. He should be willing to respond unless it’s shortsighted or poorly thought out.

  • @RedHat_Protagonist1111
    @RedHat_Protagonist11112 ай бұрын

    2:27 yoo i love this new ao update guns are so realistic now!

  • @Varkolyx

    @Varkolyx

    2 ай бұрын

    😭😭

  • @MeltingLove_

    @MeltingLove_

    Ай бұрын

    vetex finally added clan building 🙀🙀

  • @RedNumber19
    @RedNumber192 ай бұрын

    This game is literally covered in band aid fixes. If vetex wants people to stick around for the cool endgame he gotta actually fix bugs

  • @samanyupalthi

    @samanyupalthi

    2 ай бұрын

    All magics are the same! No fun in conjurer Warlocks are broken Shadow and crystal are OP Synergies and status effects are nothing Triasta is ground breaking NPC rivals are too strong Every update gets a new meta build and every one just changes to it.

  • @helix276

    @helix276

    2 ай бұрын

    Most people will stick around because they don't care for the pvp anyway.

  • @kiryukazuma7960

    @kiryukazuma7960

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@samanyupalthihow the hell is warlock broken, so many fighting styles got a nerf, the new armor poercing and meta builds carey the classes. The classes themselves arent worth anything

  • @jabdroid197

    @jabdroid197

    2 ай бұрын

    @@samanyupalthi you forgot about berserker being 6 ft under

  • @RedNumber19

    @RedNumber19

    2 ай бұрын

    @@helix276 it’s not just PvP I have died countless times to bugs in the dark sea

  • @jeremiahszabo823
    @jeremiahszabo8232 ай бұрын

    We have seen how overpowered the drill shape and mage builds can be, so we have decided to nerf thermo fist again.

  • @PillesArcane

    @PillesArcane

    2 ай бұрын

    drill is bugged and is 33% larger than intended

  • @erykando

    @erykando

    2 ай бұрын

    warriors are more op with their elephant sized aoe and massive damage

  • @synista493
    @synista4932 ай бұрын

    is it really the balance team being braindead or is it vetex forgetting to add balance changes or adding his own dumb balance changes?

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    both

  • @cassiovieira2939

    @cassiovieira2939

    2 ай бұрын

    mostly the balance team i think since vet said he doesnt really touch balancing and just goes along with the doc

  • @Volcanic_Emperor

    @Volcanic_Emperor

    2 ай бұрын

    @@cassiovieira2939no its vet not adding over half the balance changes

  • @Volcanic_Emperor

    @Volcanic_Emperor

    2 ай бұрын

    He didnt nerf speed scaling so speed is still good you just need more of it

  • @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@Volcanic_Emperor your sentence made no sense

  • @aguy6500
    @aguy65002 ай бұрын

    the game was more balanced back when pulsar was op then it is right now

  • @machpella

    @machpella

    2 ай бұрын

    i miss metal mage era

  • @pixy7593

    @pixy7593

    Ай бұрын

    Unironically, fucking hell.

  • @adamrizkymubarak
    @adamrizkymubarak2 ай бұрын

    360 dmg crystal warlock with 2.8k hp is so balanced

  • @hemandhaid3422

    @hemandhaid3422

    2 ай бұрын

    Just like the good ol' days

  • @kiryukazuma7960

    @kiryukazuma7960

    2 ай бұрын

    Armor piercing, you cant even make an excuse about high hp users

  • @TheFiniteOne

    @TheFiniteOne

    2 ай бұрын

    @@kiryukazuma7960 i have over 100 armor piercing, shit doesn't do much at all.

  • @kiryukazuma7960

    @kiryukazuma7960

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheFiniteOne boosting one stat to an absurd level won't do anything, you need a balanced stat allocation

  • @TheFiniteOne

    @TheFiniteOne

    2 ай бұрын

    @@kiryukazuma7960 yeah but the fact that it doesn't do anything beside reducing a damage reduce on block is crazy,why would anyone build this stat

  • @thetruebreaddoge7639
    @thetruebreaddoge76392 ай бұрын

    i feel like instead of removing stun they should add a stun prevent stat that applies when your stunned and it last for 10-15 seconds so half your health isnt gone in like 4 moves

  • @Skulky

    @Skulky

    2 ай бұрын

    What’s crazy is that was actually in the game. Getting stunned preventer you from getting stunned again for 10 seconds but apparently people still cried over that because of ice warlock

  • @MeltingLove_
    @MeltingLove_Ай бұрын

    arcane odyssey meta starter pack: warlock: always use iron and heavy magic, you can hurt people with the air!!! mage: shadow and attack speed, just use shadow, everything else sucks warrior: waste your whole social life trying to get the warrior sunken set and sunken staff other classes doesnt exist

  • @ratcrusher3251
    @ratcrusher32512 ай бұрын

    I'm currently playing a thermofist boxing juggernaut with 0 agility (122 vitality 150 strength). I have 62 power, 620 defense, 16 atkspeed, 132 regen, and 237 resistance. Because nobody is running armor piercing, i'm just borderline unkillable which is made even funnier when I bring ironskin potions into the mix (if its in the special occasion of somebody randomly hunting me.) Maybe i've just fought bad players, but I've actually been doing pretty alright in terms of fighting. I've mainly fought warriors and warlocks though, so i'll have to see whats up with mage dueling. Still, I think the balancing is out of the window this update: but it doesn't stop my build from being so unfathomably fucked that I was able to (with ironskin 3 + recovery 4) hold G, type into chat "hey man just try to kill me, im gonna go grab a glass of water", successfully grab a glass of water, come back, and realize that they hadn't even been able to keep me under max HP because of how much I was healing + resisting. The reactions are priceless.

  • @machpella

    @machpella

    2 ай бұрын

    Juggernaut is kinda goated, i run an iron leg one with like 2.4k hp and 45% resistance and while the fights are long i usually never get to less than 1k hp

  • @funnyeh1298
    @funnyeh12982 ай бұрын

    please fire the entire balance team…

  • @karaltar7914

    @karaltar7914

    2 ай бұрын

    There is no balancing team…

  • @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@karaltar7914is this a joke?

  • @karaltar7914

    @karaltar7914

    2 ай бұрын

    @@wrought-ironheroEMIYA I’m pretty sure I heard somewhere that Vetex is a solo dev

  • @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    2 ай бұрын

    @@karaltar7914 yes but there is a team that decides balancing in terms of magics,weapons, armors etc. Vetex just adds changes to the balance doc into the game. Him being a solo dev is in the context of him being the only one allowed to script the game. He has other people work on map structures, armor and weapon designs,etc. and one person helping him with story development.

  • @karaltar7914

    @karaltar7914

    2 ай бұрын

    @@wrought-ironheroEMIYA ah

  • @mihaicovaciu6634
    @mihaicovaciu6634Ай бұрын

    Not only thermo was nerfed beyond any nerf but it also got in a position where only berserker could use it so any warlock/warlord does worse. Literally as warlock if i just spam magic, i overperform if i use both fs and magic or fs only.

  • @fluxomeister6142
    @fluxomeister61422 ай бұрын

    had a decent 70 hour playthrough, did pvp and theorycrafting on my warlock, seeing the changes in nimbus update made dropped the game a few days after completing nimbus story, i will play again once vetex picks up the slack and actually drops a good balance update

  • @awhrolt
    @awhrolt2 ай бұрын

    had a couple of fights with a iron leg 300 atk size warlord today. Dealt 250 dmg minimum (doesn't include the x2 bleed dot) with his lion's halberd striking gale weapon move. His striking gales hit me even though I was an entire sailboat's distance away from it. (we both were at 50 ping) Striking gale has a 3 second cooldown btw so fighting the warlord was totally fun and enjoyable. Somehow he had 2000 hp (without focus) and about 60 power without any insanity. atk size/ ileg aoe (normal and imbue affinity) nerf when?

  • @Gray_Portal2039

    @Gray_Portal2039

    2 ай бұрын

    i fought this commodore at munera he was an ileg warlord too, i was a boxinglord with 0 size and managed to get him to orange (he ran away lol)

  • @stereotypic_asian

    @stereotypic_asian

    2 ай бұрын

    Ileg Warlord main here. I run 93 atk size and my attacks are still atrociously big with lions halberd. Dense does so much for weapons. I kinda hate that no other enchant except tempered on a few select weapons is viable.

  • @awhrolt

    @awhrolt

    2 ай бұрын

    @@stereotypic_asian I think other enchants just don’t give enough buffs to actually mean anything also halberd+ileg AoE is just insane without enchants

  • @aggroniterandom
    @aggroniterandom2 ай бұрын

    I hope someday Thermo comes back maybe just a little 😭🙏

  • @Wats_Plays

    @Wats_Plays

    2 ай бұрын

    We all wish for that brother This update made Thermo fist literally unplayable with it taking two minutes and twenty seconds to get to full heat

  • @Chowman741

    @Chowman741

    2 ай бұрын

    Like step not giving any heat or m1 give even less heat makes Thermo feels D to F tier.

  • @papapenguino

    @papapenguino

    2 ай бұрын

    thermo is 6 feet under forever 😢

  • @aggroniterandom

    @aggroniterandom

    2 ай бұрын

    I have hopes that maybe just maybe vetex might bring it back a little? I mean, come on. You can't have a fighting style that requires 100 str points be this terrible

  • @PillesArcane

    @PillesArcane

    2 ай бұрын

    its still the best fighting style on zerker

  • @suban2163
    @suban21632 ай бұрын

    You can quite easily avoid sparrow thrust by just being infront of the warrior player. But the cooldown on it should be almost double imo.

  • @majin3230

    @majin3230

    2 ай бұрын

    You can just avoid getting hit by not getting hit!

  • @FlyinC4T
    @FlyinC4TАй бұрын

    I'll have the nice day but I find myself in a difficult conflict here... does this mean armor piercing is a good thing? -does it actually pierce blocking?

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    Ай бұрын

    it's kinda mid outside of blocking targets

  • @kebab4949
    @kebab49492 ай бұрын

    What do you think are the best weapons for warriors are other than dense sunken sword? Tell me the best enchantment to have on them too

  • @sanscomic4226

    @sanscomic4226

    Ай бұрын

    Smth that increases attack size on triasta of bronze

  • @-negative-3889
    @-negative-38892 ай бұрын

    Wasn’t vetex going to reduce fighting move level requirements by 30? That seems to have never happened.

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    he's vetoed that change I believe

  • @wrought-ironheroEMIYA
    @wrought-ironheroEMIYA2 ай бұрын

    Does vetex have a say in the balance changes or does he just put whatever the balance team decides on?

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    he has final say but overall not that interested

  • @machpella
    @machpella2 ай бұрын

    Its wild how they removed KO's, yet another nerf to rushdown which is broken for the past few months already.

  • @iamwiserthanmasteryod
    @iamwiserthanmasteryod2 ай бұрын

    the max power build is dealing 2300 dmg with surge even tho there is drawback it is still so op u just hve to 1 tap

  • @mist2961
    @mist29612 ай бұрын

    FINALLY PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING THE COST TO EFFICIENCY RATIO THAT IS AP, THE MOST USELESS STAT IN THE GAME. Oh, so they will do more dmg to me if I block? Ok I just wont block anymore and will be able to be even more aggressive as I'll take slightly less dmg from not blocking anyways!! Also 270 power 9 drawback got nerfed so hard it's not even WORTH considering as a meme build as it's just not gonna win any fights unless ur fighting a non so basically my 2 month grind for my silly 700 dmg build is invalidated since all the changes made basically any combination of the metas able to reach eitehr near dmg through raw output OR reaching my dmg through dps...

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    no you take less damage when you block the effect of blocking is just reduced

  • @PillesArcane

    @PillesArcane

    2 ай бұрын

    270 power 9 drawback builds arent supposed to be viable if ur expecting to instakill people consistently without dying you're just completely lost

  • @SassierJet2635
    @SassierJet2635Ай бұрын

    As a light conj I can confirm im outclassed regularly ✨️ but option B- powerful Naruto speeches trying to turn the villian good 😂

  • @yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3
    @yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3Ай бұрын

    To me it's odd how lightning mage sparked in popularity even though the stun was removed (replaced by slowness)

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    Ай бұрын

    lightning is OP

  • @yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3

    @yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3

    Ай бұрын

    @@Q_ari fr, and imo it was from the beginning Still odd that the high popularity happened just now, lol

  • @protobomber9822
    @protobomber9822Ай бұрын

    I’m using 35 intensity because it gives me an extra scorched and I think that’s kinda cool 😎

  • @tanf36016_ult
    @tanf36016_ult2 ай бұрын

    I swear after Ds and this update I would say that 1.13 was the most balanced time of all

  • @starlitevening4314
    @starlitevening4314Ай бұрын

    all this is really just cos ppl r in a constant race for meta sweating over numbers and minmaxxing rather than enjoying the game. arcane adventures pvp felt so much better bc the lack of class specialisation/equality between magics/same movesets meant everyone was on a more level playing field n most things felt viable (besides impact fist being crazy op but we’re not gonna talk abt that… we had fun) i think what vetex needs 2 do instead of playing this constant balancing act game with ao is try n make the pvp less incentivising to crazy meta races and stat build minmaxxing. get things on a more level playing field like in aa. but i’m not sure how that’s gonna happen without ruining the cool hybrid class system + customisation that makes things so interesting in the first place, it’s tough

  • @remanentedelenclave1179
    @remanentedelenclave11792 ай бұрын

    Well, i'm not changing my 202 attack speed lightning conjurer anyways

  • @lightinghub324
    @lightinghub3242 ай бұрын

    No offense, I understand the point as I try and am a competitive player, yet there is lots of nick picking currently. First of all, weapons are being add each with their only specialties will result in power balance, a team with limit staff who are dealing with problems like bugs means poor balance is expected. However, this doesn't mean to be an excuse as balance recently has been poor as fighting skills got nerf mostly and magic dramatically buffed, I argue the game is much more healthy than before. Reducing agility and dodge reflexes has made the game more skill-reliant as I feel more punished for my moves. Notable buff to weapons, but I stand to argue the only really fighting class kinda struggling are them, and boxing with just a small change would be fine. The dodge reflex Nerf overall improves fighting and warrior styles class, but I agree on the topic where the berserker is difficult since magic is much stronger. Also, the new stats being pointless is unfair. Regen honestly instead horrible, kinda mid honestly but has potential for fast att spd build. Resilience is my new PVP build, needs work but shows huge possibility with weapons combinations. Lastly, armor piercing is right as I use a small amount of piercing on different build ranges from high to low which honestly increases my damage.

  • @irineiovcnaosabenemeu4358
    @irineiovcnaosabenemeu43582 ай бұрын

    Honestly I like when things are unbalanced and I don't even use unbalanced things it can lead to some funny things but I agree with people and the dev team that it shouldn't be keep has it will get quite stale after a while.

  • @sanscomic4226
    @sanscomic4226Ай бұрын

    When we are getting mad at solo indie devs times are grim indeed

  • @Electrobolt913

    @Electrobolt913

    Ай бұрын

    Being a solo indie dev is not an excuse for refusing to make your game more fair and balanced instead of flat out ignoring your entire fanbase

  • @sanscomic4226

    @sanscomic4226

    Ай бұрын

    @@Electrobolt913 indeed.

  • @dipsauce6725
    @dipsauce67252 ай бұрын

    Someone more educated please answer, but was conj op or sumn last update? Why nerf? God I hope my shadow conj doesn't get nerfed, it feels like the only viable conj magic rn 😭

  • @bullseyecg3501

    @bullseyecg3501

    2 ай бұрын

    i was ice conj and now the game is unplayable

  • @Sleepy_Kyra

    @Sleepy_Kyra

    2 ай бұрын

    Shadow conj is boring as hell, plus there are viable options like ice or sand

  • @xzkilerymax8395

    @xzkilerymax8395

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Sleepy_Kyranawghjj

  • @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    2 ай бұрын

    Conjurer got a size nerf but it's not unplayable. If you're doing dark sea runs however...yeah good luck with that

  • @JoeTheGunslinger
    @JoeTheGunslinger2 ай бұрын

    so true groomson

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    EXPLAIN

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    WHAT DO YOU MEAN

  • @yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3
    @yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3Ай бұрын

    1:00 why are so many people mad at pvp switch? 💀 Are people mad that they won't be able to gank underleveled or not players for 342 rep? Just don't make it spammable aka extremely high cooldown and complicated to switch (goofy confirmations), outside combat, and only for certain player-kills-to-hour ratios Ao pvp will never die anyways It might make the player count go up a little as many people quit because of pvp toxicity

  • @George-op9fz
    @George-op9fz2 ай бұрын

    Man, Thermo is already Good Enough as a Plasma Thermo i can say proud Thermo isn't weak at all, the dmg is really good + the seared effect is applied in the moment you reached 50% of the heat (same for scorch effect) + you gain heat extremlly fast, just play aggresive and you will get almost full heat in like 4-5 skills used

  • @hyoga4939

    @hyoga4939

    2 ай бұрын

    the problem is at.size ngl going up against insanely large attack size users with earth is hard to deal with because of their dumb frame dropping attack and u could prob lag so hard that it makes u an easy target and i agree plasma thermo is rn op because of status effect combined with intensity u can make an insane powerhouse tho u will be glass cannon with no defense thats why i rn hate mage users just for this single reason

  • @George-op9fz

    @George-op9fz

    2 ай бұрын

    @@hyoga4939 You don't need Intensity for Plasma Thermo. Plasma imbue decrease the dmg of Thermo Fist but if you can get a right Build and practice aim, the synergy and doing combos will give you the victory agains the opponent

  • @fatdinosaurfood8059
    @fatdinosaurfood8059Ай бұрын

    I’m a light conj with no skill so this doesn’t rly affect me

  • @user-po5un6wc6m
    @user-po5un6wc6mАй бұрын

    And i yet can't beat my level 260 savant rival with thermo fist + spear user and crystal magic

  • @Shadow-cl2sn
    @Shadow-cl2sn2 ай бұрын

    subbed

  • @geneisisshift5727
    @geneisisshift5727Ай бұрын

    as someone whos been playing vetex's games since 2016 id rather play the broken and unpieced together version of AA right before it was shutdown than play this disaster of a reskinned game on top of the balance team who do everything in their power to make unnecessary changes to put the game in a worse state than it was before

  • @canon07
    @canon072 ай бұрын

    The new update im nimbus sea is really boring and out right not giving people good lvls like thinking they might expanded to lvl 150 to 200 but we got pranked again. As you know that i abandon being a savant and switch to warrior the problem with the build between warrior and mages and warlocks are really damn broken and was never balance. Like mages and warlocks are still overpower like getting to a lot of damage and has more varieties of arsonal to escape. Whlie warriors are still bit powerful but had at disadvantage against both mages and warlocks like the aoe in mages and warlock are damn bad. Like really balance are still bad at situation also pluging and tp tracking is just bad due to people doing fame hunt or outright creepy tracking people. Edit: this is me just took a break for few days.

  • @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    2 ай бұрын

    Next lvl cap should be 155 we won't get to 200 or beyond until the end of the nimbus story

  • @charadoesdumbstuff
    @charadoesdumbstuffАй бұрын

    I'm kinda pissed that this game has gone down a shithole, It's so poorly optimised that I can't even play the game anymore without my pc nearly crashing and the fact every update we gotta change the meta is so sad.

  • @thocatfish
    @thocatfish2 ай бұрын

    bring back thermo warlord airstall meta 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Interxection
    @Interxection2 ай бұрын

    vetex j incompetent if he wouldve listened to bteam and not aired them, as well as giving them access to TU to actually test their changes and see if theyre positive things wouldve been better also not hidden clash rates from the bteam Also direct them to do things instead of expecting them to know what to do without guidance

  • @hexap3410

    @hexap3410

    2 ай бұрын

    I feel like vetex is j busy with college and stuff and the balance team just sucks

  • @hexap3410

    @hexap3410

    2 ай бұрын

    I feel like vetex is j busy with college and stuff and the balance team just sucks

  • @toadguy19

    @toadguy19

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@hexap3410vetex has never gone to college

  • @Sonic44885

    @Sonic44885

    2 ай бұрын

    Maybe vetex rather than giving access to the actual TU maybe should give access to a balance version of elysium, where they can test the balance changes there

  • @Interxection

    @Interxection

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Sonic44885 maybe but they also I assume have no unlimited stat resets so if they get reports that a build is broken they have to make a new save and regrind to test it

  • @thetruebreaddoge7639
    @thetruebreaddoge76392 ай бұрын

    its like they want not good builds to suddenly become meta instead of making a balanced game

  • @Syr3i
    @Syr3iАй бұрын

    Are you a Oggie's VOICE ACTOR from Oggie and thr cockroaches bro 😭😭😭

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    Ай бұрын

    your words cut deep (idk what that is)

  • @andygogo50
    @andygogo502 ай бұрын

    Halfway through the video bro just said f it and started throwing Fortnite clips in Fr 🔥

  • @bebankeluarga8532
    @bebankeluarga85322 ай бұрын

    Wait, what fs gear that gives 400 defense?

  • @ratcrusher3251

    @ratcrusher3251

    2 ай бұрын

    Probably ironleg.

  • @spectre7095
    @spectre70952 ай бұрын

    So the mage meta is shadow + any magic with good arcanium?

  • @Volcanic_Emperor

    @Volcanic_Emperor

    2 ай бұрын

    Shadow glass

  • @notell2246

    @notell2246

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Volcanic_Emperorye that power on a powerful blasted glass arcsphere is just crazy. Aka 50 power on a single item

  • @Samuel_HM
    @Samuel_HM2 ай бұрын

    Sisyphus Fist seems to get nerfed again

  • @xanthiusdrake2775

    @xanthiusdrake2775

    2 ай бұрын

    Wrong, 100% wrong, nerfing things over and over never fixes anything, Vetex needs to competely rethink how balancing is done, and find new testers as the current ones seem to only care about PvP.

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@xanthiusdrake2775why should the team dedicated to balance between player builds care more about the aspect of the game where you don't fight other player builds

  • @xanthiusdrake2775

    @xanthiusdrake2775

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Q_ari Because it effects the entire game, if you "balance" things while only thinking about how it effects PvP, it will only further damage the game, as they will forget that it effects PvE as well. This isn't something I am just pulling out of thin air to stir drama, this is a real thing, far to many games and their communites have rotted away from the same mistake Vetex and his team have been making.

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    @@xanthiusdrake2775 vro pve doesn't matter

  • @xanthiusdrake2775

    @xanthiusdrake2775

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Q_ari Okay you literally just shot yourself inthe foot BIG time, any time you try to change something for PvP, you need to consider how it will effect PvE as well, you can't just go around changing things for the sake of something that only makes up a small percentage of the gameplay. You need to open your eyes dude, your current mindset is not a healthy one for the playerbase, not everyone is into PvP, never asume that kind of case, it is unhealthy, and toxic, and makes you look like your putting yourself on a pedestal above PvE players. This is why people look at PvP communities with distain, because of how they are unwilling to consider how these kinds of things effect others as well. And clearly Vetex has hired people on his team who are also to PvP focused to consider the general playerbase.

  • @Deveshkha
    @Deveshkha2 ай бұрын

    I love seeing them nerf resistance when it does absolutely nothing when you're not running the max amount

  • @notell2246

    @notell2246

    2 ай бұрын

    No it makes a big difference even at like 100. Cus like 25% while holding an attack is Really nice. You do more damage by holding down the attack and they do less damage to you.

  • @omegacharmaster635
    @omegacharmaster635Ай бұрын

    i like the ice magic because it looks nice and i can walk on water

  • @yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3

    @yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3

    Ай бұрын

    You can't nicely skate tho from what I've heard Your T jump and leap doesnt recharge anymore when you step on platform made from ice/magma magic hitting the sea

  • @pixy7593
    @pixy7593Ай бұрын

    I just deeply hate how annoying it is to play Warlock or Berserk against PVE content, and they keep making it worse. Grabs almost never works on NPCs, meanwhile their grabs straight up magnet to you. Hitboxes on ships feels janky af and if you do not have a ton of AOE, the chance you will miss is big. I truly do not know what has been happening with balance of this game for a while, and nerfing Thermo again proved me they do not know jackshit of how is to balance the game.

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    Ай бұрын

    tbf combat on all moving objects in roblox is fucking messy as shit. the unfortunate thing with npcs is they have functional aimlock and perfect understanding of hitboxes because of it.

  • @pixy7593

    @pixy7593

    Ай бұрын

    @@Q_ari Perfectly, I understand that as I've been playing Roblox for a while and I spot the limitations. The issue tho is that apparently no one on the developing side of the game is taking those into account, if they're not able to fix it, why NPCs can still grab you? Can't tell how many times I've got canceled from a spell or attack. Like, it feels someetimes Vetex is not accounting that he is developing a game inside Roblox a bunch of times, and simply ignore a bunch of inherent issues with the platform.

  • @GrayBook-pq8df
    @GrayBook-pq8df2 ай бұрын

    Give vetex and the balancing team some time to cook

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    we did, vetex originally said nimbus sea would begin work in may last year

  • @sanscomic4226
    @sanscomic4226Ай бұрын

    ...okay,i know this is extreme but...should Vetex fire testers who made certain...decisions

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    Ай бұрын

    probably tbh

  • @sovietmiko6834
    @sovietmiko6834Ай бұрын

    still enjoying life as the worst savant in the game 🙏

  • @MeltingLove_
    @MeltingLove_Ай бұрын

    cool idea: ADD A STUPID SWITCH FOR DISABLE OR ENABLE PVP, BUT IT WILL PREVENT OF YOU GAIN BOUNTY/FAME (if you disable it you need to pay for disable or enable and it resets your current reputation)

  • @MeltingLove_

    @MeltingLove_

    Ай бұрын

    and just being neutral doesnt help, its annoying gain reputation from everything

  • @aerialmeow
    @aerialmeow2 ай бұрын

    oh no shadow is the problem !

  • @yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3

    @yp2gr_9Wz89Qz3

    Ай бұрын

    *next update* *shadow gets thermo'ed*

  • @Sleepy_Kyra
    @Sleepy_Kyra2 ай бұрын

    Buff metal fr

  • @Chowman741
    @Chowman7412 ай бұрын

    Huh, welp, I am still not changing my berserker slot with 1 attack size

  • @Crystalpeppers01

    @Crystalpeppers01

    2 ай бұрын

    I love berserker idk if it got nerfed I love and I have for ages like what did boxing do boxing is funny and I love it but then they nerf it why????? Mage is so op

  • @Chowman741

    @Chowman741

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Crystalpeppers01 boxing got hit with the speed nerf. I can tell the difference because I use it as my main

  • @hemandhaid3422

    @hemandhaid3422

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, you don't need to follow the meta, play what build you actually like.

  • @Crystalpeppers01

    @Crystalpeppers01

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Chowman741 yea same

  • @thedoorisopen1
    @thedoorisopen12 ай бұрын

    balance team member here we nerfed it because we got killed by someone using it (joke)

  • @xanthiusdrake2775

    @xanthiusdrake2775

    2 ай бұрын

    Regardless if your a tester or a liar, Vetex and the team need to stop using the method of nerfing things back and forth, it will never break metas or balance the game, it will only make matters worse, making the community hyper-toxic with metas. The best advice to give, is look up the content creator Pirate Software, go to the shorts page, and look for the short on breaking metas, I hate shorts but this is a case of watching it being worth the trouble.

  • @nick.3455
    @nick.34552 ай бұрын

    Why is bro actually cracked at fn

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    💀

  • @RaveNitrite
    @RaveNitrite2 ай бұрын

    bro tried to sneak in fortnite clips

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    no sneaking about it

  • @Femsell
    @Femsell2 ай бұрын

    ari, actually cooked?

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    yes I did girly pop

  • @noobrebuilder8260
    @noobrebuilder82602 ай бұрын

    Man this shits gone cuckoo

  • @composedend
    @composedend2 ай бұрын

    wow that's pretty interesting! nerf thermo again

  • @ananonymous7700
    @ananonymous77002 ай бұрын

    they nerfed the dodge reflex and not the warrior HIGH AOE cringe

  • @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    @wrought-ironheroEMIYA

    2 ай бұрын

    Warrior aoe wasn't that good until this update. The reflex nerf is what made it cracked cause you can't go 50 ft away anymore

  • @sojnodes3782
    @sojnodes37822 ай бұрын

    And yet vetex refuses to add a no pvp option 🤦

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    pvp is part of the game

  • @sojnodes3782

    @sojnodes3782

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Q_ari Gankers rlly ruin the game

  • @fakemuthaphukkinG

    @fakemuthaphukkinG

    2 ай бұрын

    Getting hunted down and bushwhacked contributes a lot to the game despite how sucky it appears

  • @Fradlod

    @Fradlod

    Ай бұрын

    getting hunted by a level 136 mage that does 300 damage per move as a level 90 with 500 renown is so fun fr 🗣🔥

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    Ай бұрын

    @@sojnodes3782 if you gon cry about getting random killed when you lose nothing, run a crutch build if you have renown and are crying about people hunting you, uninstall roblox

  • @BoomSki-pn9lb
    @BoomSki-pn9lb2 ай бұрын

    Warlord is so bad in pvp if you use flintflocks or muskets

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    guns are good wym

  • @BoomSki-pn9lb

    @BoomSki-pn9lb

    2 ай бұрын

    @Arisell. they have projectile size of an atom and its difficult to aim cursor right on the person whilst also dodging their attack

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    your not cooking gun m1s are easy as hell this update

  • @BoomSki-pn9lb

    @BoomSki-pn9lb

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Q_ari idk wym

  • @notell2246

    @notell2246

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Q_aripiercing shot got nerfed :( I used to do 315 now I do 260

  • @Greil_Tomonari
    @Greil_Tomonari2 ай бұрын

    Wth is the best class right now?

  • @PillesArcane

    @PillesArcane

    2 ай бұрын

    mage

  • @Thomas_-bg8hi

    @Thomas_-bg8hi

    2 ай бұрын

    Always been mage

  • @Dzlta_
    @Dzlta_2 ай бұрын

    PLASMA MAGE HAHAHAHA

  • @Solo-iv8zy
    @Solo-iv8zy2 ай бұрын

    I've pretty much lost interest to AO

  • @esperxp9263
    @esperxp92632 ай бұрын

    Soy mage players angry cause aoe warlocks on top🗣🔥🦍🇧🇦💪

  • @Q_ari

    @Q_ari

    2 ай бұрын

    my double drill begs to differ

  • @vincecabanilla2310

    @vincecabanilla2310

    2 ай бұрын

    the ice sailor watching in horror as a shadow mage spams 57 different skills

  • @Gray_Portal2039

    @Gray_Portal2039

    2 ай бұрын

    block. parry. dodge (dont block)

  • @Chowman741

    @Chowman741

    2 ай бұрын

    Blocking kills you. Don't block

  • @BlueSoulGamer

    @BlueSoulGamer

    2 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@Chowman741 I beat several players by blocking with a shield until they are too exhausted to dodge. Blocking is not gonna kill you, in fact it could probably win you the game if you use it excessively. Players jump around needlessly to dodge you regardless of if you’re attacking or not. Sitting still and blocking unironically puts you at a massive advantage 10 seconds later.

  • @smellmybacons2184
    @smellmybacons21842 ай бұрын

    wait so ice/lightning sailor doesnt stun anymore?

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