The Absolute King of BVR - Now With Lofting! | F-14 War Thunder
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When it comes to BVR combat, none can challenge the F-14 with its combination of versatile and strong radar, potent long range weapons and the largest quantities of them. And now the AIM-54 Phoenix got lofting as well... It's a combination made in heaven..
00:00 Intro
00:18 6 Phoenix Philip
00:58 AIM-54 Buffed
02:00 Lofting in Action
03:00 Designed for Bombers, not fighters
03:20 My opinion on Jet Bombers
04:00 Preferred Loadout
05:00 Switching Lock Type Mid-Lock
05:40 CW Guidance
06:15 Flight Performance
06:50 The Importance of Early Hits
07:35 AIM-9H
07:48 Should be 12.0
Outro composed by Lucas Ricciotti
Source: • Morning Stars - Summer...
Discord link: / discord
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Its probably a controversial opinion, but I think heavy bombers should be added. In mainstream AB and RB matches, there could prehaps be a few ai bomber flights on the EC maps, much like the attacker flights. But then should also be in the tech tree. Although they should be limited to either sim matches, or a reworked version of heli PvE mode where bombers and strike aircraft are more viable for those wanting to get away from the very TDM like matches in normal AB and RB
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
That's fair. My point was more that they wouldn't work in typical air RB as player controlled vehicles, I would love to see them as AI for sure.
@undeleteduser
Жыл бұрын
I really like the idea. But they could make a way so that people would escort you and get points for it
@stephencrompton4352
Жыл бұрын
Air RB (mostly for top tier) just needs to be completely reworked anyway. More nuanced game play would allow for more verity of aircraft types to be effectively used.
@typhoon109
Жыл бұрын
the vulcan and the b52 would be so cool to see
@cookiecracker2
Жыл бұрын
Not in the current state of bomb points, map design, and ticket system. No it would not be fun, either for the bomber, or for people facing the bomber.
“The one area it’s lacking in is acceleration.” Gaijin took that personally
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
F-14B on its way!
For F-14 I run: 2 Pheonixes, 4 AIM-7s and 2 AIM-9s. Pheonixes are bit of a meme so just climb, fire them at enemy climbers if you get kills then great if not it's back to missile jousts with AIM-7s and use 9s on unsuspecting fellas or use them to force them to turn
@HighRiskV
Жыл бұрын
I run 1 phoenix just for fun and 5 aim7s, but 6 aim7s would get me a better chance of winning on average
@StarTransformer1245
Жыл бұрын
I run 4 phoenix and averages 1-2 kills per game, 2 sparrows, 2 sidewinders, accuracy by volume my friend.
@HighRiskV
Жыл бұрын
@@StarTransformer1245 2 kills in the f14 is a bad game for me
@dondelchulia3189
Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I do. Probably average 0.8 kills per game with the Phoenix. Not phenomenal, but it’s usually one of the other teams mig-29s and I think it makes a difference
Did anyone else notice the phoenix just passing by at 4:37?
@riuneko
Жыл бұрын
warthunder is a horror game
@THECAKEISTALKING
Жыл бұрын
I had to rewind to make sure I wasnt seeing things lol
@ryanbarone8072
Жыл бұрын
@@THECAKEISTALKING I did the same
lmao i was there on the stream when u pulled off those kills with the aim-54, the reaction was priceless
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
I was not expecting that at all ahahaha
Watching this live was a experience, it was hilarious haha.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
😁😁 That 4K was a massive bruh
I personally think that Gaijin should make the F14 12.3, along with the F16 and MiG-29.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Fair and valid, we need more decompression
@maximuskay1
Жыл бұрын
Then give it 9Ls
I’ve used lofting since the MLD came out it’s crazy how much it can make a difference
I have actually taken up your tactic you said in a earlier video that the first aim54 is good for catching people off guard but the second one is way harder to dodge
Don't know if anyone else say this but at 4:38, he almost go slammed by a enemy missile. You can only see it for a brief seconds but it zips by right under him.
@christopherjohnson5432
Жыл бұрын
It was a phoenix lmao, it didn’t even look like it was trying to pull up towards him, probably just another example of the phoenix being kind of dog water.
Back when it first came out you could manually loft them by aiming way above the target, and the missile would just take forever to turn back down towards them. That got me an 80km kill on thr large maps
Great Vid =)
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you :)
joined the stream right before you got that 4 Phoenix kills it was awesome lmao. I was flabbergasted for a few minutes before making my first comment in the chat hahah
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Ahahaha, it was pretty funny, I just had to include it
my biggest gripe with the F-14 is the hot engines, Seems slightly easier to dodge heatseekers in the latest patch atleast.
after the buff I finally got my first phoenix kill
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Yoooooo!
I like how 4:37 you never even noticed the missile that passed under you lol
My kill rate with my pheonixes went from 0 or 1 per match to and almost guaranteed 1
Technically the F-14, even in War Thunder is a rate fighter, meaning it does a 2 circle fight well. It’s when you get too slow is when you’re in trouble. As any aircraft that’s great in a radius fight aka a one circle fight, you’re almost guaranteed to lose. Keep the speed up and keep in the rate fight and you will have a good chance to win an engagement.
Dude the user skin for the f14 from top gun 2 is SICK
close call missile at 4:35
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Cheeks clenched😁
I run the exact same configuration. 4x AIM-54A’s, 2 AIM-7F’s, and 2 AIM-9H’s. It’s a classic a very realistic munitions loadout the real F-14 used
Me: *is sad* Also me: *sees Lee post* My sadness: byebye
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Awww 😎
Love that Waltz of the Tornado song in the background
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Banger
Good video.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
How are you cycling targets on tws without slaving radar?
4:35 holy fuck that missile *nearly* hit you, wtf that was close af xDD
addition of bot awacs will be cool in ARB
and now we are getting F-14B :)
FINALLY
Do you have to keep the target detected on TWS radar screen until it hit the target? If so when does you can safely look away the TWS tracking? I mean when does the 54 itself is now self tracking its own target which you no longer require to track target on TWS?
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Good question! You don't have to no, the missile starts guiding itself at about 18km or so. Amd for that at least you just gotta guess
can we get a keybinds tutorial on all this. been stugling so get it to wokr as well as this.
And they're adding the F-14B, for reasons™
Opinions on the AMRAAM and contemporaries coming this year? Gripen C is confirmed and the AIM-54 lofting fix leads me to believe we'll be receiving other earlier ARH missiles such as AIM-120A/B, R-27EA, R-77, PL-12, and Python IV. Unsure if we'll see MICAs for the French and if we do they must be nerfed.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
I think we'll be getting early AMRAAM and R-77 this year, still waaay too early for stuff like MICA at this point though.
@spray916
Жыл бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 I'd agree. MICA only gets added if it's heavily nerfed. I'd expect AMRAAM-B at most. PL-12 could be trouble.
@supersarge24
Жыл бұрын
R-27EA never saw any service under any circumstances. I would be shocked if they added it. I hope they don't.
@spray916
Жыл бұрын
@@supersarge24 makes more sense then the R-77 as the first iteration of the R-77 was kinematically dogshit. R-27EA is much more similar to the AMRAAM kinematics wise.
We just need reworked modes so all planes can be properly utilized. And reward system in AIR RB is also super inconsistent - If you don't want to be passive wus, or just get unlucky uptier where you just gonna get 3 people on your 6 without much to do about it, you beat 10 missiles while others watching them to deplete all ammo before they get to scoop freebies, and in 50% cases like this, friendly 9L from A10 will hit you, and you get exactly nothing for 10-15 minutes of dicking around.
What's the climbing method for tue f14? What fuel load and climb angle? To fire off phoenixes early, I mean.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Usually I try to get above mach .85, and then angle up to 20 degrees. You'll slowly push closer to mach while you climb. I usually run 45 minutes personally
I think they should add awaks to rb. Playable with no kills but u get decent money for intellegence when someone on your radar gets killed. Im not to the jets yet to know how radar already works for fighters. But you get some accurate radar. Then u got 1-2 awaks max that can be played per game first come first serve. They don’t show up in the sky with red names like ab. But they constantly show up on your data link radar or something. Some way to do it thats realistic and badass. It could be op so thats why i think it would be limited so theres no constamt awaks if the enemy is skilled enough to take them out. Also theres a tree for awaks so not everyone has the same one etc.
i thought you only had to climb to like 2000 meters, thats usually how high i flew before and i got kills for days
Lee I have a quick question for you. During this sale should I grind the Soviet tree, the f4j/f8u, or the f5e (mainly bc I’m good in the f5c) I’m quite unsure lol
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Personally I would go F8U/F8E instead of the F-5E, though any are a good choice. Long term, Soviets are a good grind, the MiG-29 is excellent and they have a healthy future just like the American treee
@tierneysmith7915
Жыл бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 thanks, welp time to grind sl all day (I have them researched but not bought) but it should only take me a day or so, then I’m,a use the rest of my premium time to grind Russia (I also have to become the grinding god bc I only have a month and a week of premium and I can’t buy anymore rn ;-;
@hoanglongtran5895
Жыл бұрын
If you haven’t used the Tomcat, the F4J is a decent way to learn radar missiles.
@tierneysmith7915
Жыл бұрын
@@hoanglongtran5895 I have the f4e, but I might go all the way down to the f4j depending on how much sl I grind in the f5c today
@Panocek
Жыл бұрын
I've bought the F8E and F4J and former isn't that much of an improvement over amazing-since-downtier F8U, latter resides 24/7 in Mig29/F16 hell. And while I can see outline of greatness of Sparrows with Phantom, radar lets me down bit too reliably. Either players in average furball accidentally notch you, or PD refuses to lock anyone not head-on, while standard mode is prone to all the usual shenanigans. Also stock experience in F4J is pain incarnate.
Is it still worth it to grind? Or should i jist go for the f14 b?
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
It's still good, but I would just get the F-14B
The game needs Fox 3 aswell for Mirage 2000, F16 and Mig 29 !
HI great video man. Just a quick question: how do you change "locked" target in tws mode. I saw that you didnt actually lock the target (full solid square) but it was still "dashed" and as soon as you fired, you changed target. Thanks man
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
It should be something like "select radar target" or "switch radar target". You press it and it cycles through available targets
@lucaneri3088
Жыл бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 Thanks for the quick reply man. I'm gonna try it next time. :)
4:36 bro is dodged a missile and didn't even see it.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I only saw it editing ahaha
bro, I remember getting my first jet around the time danger zone dropped. holy shit the amount of times I've been killed by a phenix in that update is bullshit. I hatted that update
Aim 54: imma side climb
After this little buff i got kiled 2 games in a row by the 54
I have a question for the pheonix, how do you know when it goes pitbull when in tws mode?
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
You just have to guess howbfar away it is, there's no actual indication. It goes active at about 18 km.
@LewisB3217
Жыл бұрын
Whenever it’s close enough to the target
1:36 Maverick does too now
Now just clarify for me. Doesnt switching from PD TRK to regular TRK make the missle more prone to go after chaff? I ask as i main France and boy do the Mirage F1C radar missles love chaff. For example the last kill you got in this vid, if that guy chaffed atleaset once would it have saved him ?
@sebastiannelson6355
Жыл бұрын
The missile has it's on on board PD radar it will not see Chaff. However, the F-14s radar in TRK mode will see chaff and guide the AIM-54 on it.
@theflyinggasmask
Жыл бұрын
No, the missile seeker doesn't care as long as the target is being illuminated by enough radar energy.
@user-gi5el4sc3t
Жыл бұрын
Missile doesn't care about chaff if it's internal Radar is in PD mode. Doesn't matter what your plane locks as long as there is moving target in lock cone, your missiles will go after that target. Mirage F1 sucks for the reason that it doesn't have PD radar mode either it's missiles, so they get chaffed as easy as AIM-9C/R-3R do.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Nope, the missile is exactly ss prone to chaff in PD as it is in normal TRK. The reason your missiles in the Mirage F1C get eaten by chaff is because they don't have a CW seekerhead like the sparrow, they have a Pulse seekerhead which will eat chaff every time, even in PD. You can have the target locked still on your radar and the missile will eat the chaff.
@modelotime2456
Жыл бұрын
@@theflyinggasmask it does care if it’s a pulse seeker and not a cw seeker
"The F-14 has been buffed, what does that mean for you?" An empty SL wallet *cries in Soviet main*
its designed to climb so high then dive at mk6 on top of people. getting to loft is very effective.
How did you obtain 93km? I tried everything but it won't go over 37
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Change Radar/IRST scope scale
Still contemplating whether I should try this game. I love fighter jet games but on the other hand, this looks complicated af.
@GrindThunderer
Жыл бұрын
It took like 800 hours to get to the f14 and lots of money DO NOT DO IT
Did they nerf the motor because they're introducing the AIM-54C with the "Bombcat" ? Also nice to see lofting finally implemented in the game, can't wait for the 530D to have the capacity to loft too
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Most likely not, the AIM-54C also didn't use the mk 60 in most cases. It used the Mk 47 mod 1, which was smokeless :)
@nicolaspeigne1429
Жыл бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 maybe they want to make them more different from each other, we'll see
Dont let Seekerhead see you bring in phoenixes. He gonna have an aneurysm.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
He knows I do ahahaha, I was using them the other day with him when I was testing them after the buff.
@remus907
Жыл бұрын
And he didnt have a fit? Damn maybe he has grown up. Last time i checked he could not believe that i average 2 kills per match while bringing bombs in the f5c [his WT video about things you should not do.
@blueflame6237
Жыл бұрын
@@remus907 lmao that video was so stupid. he should honestly take it down its so ignorant
Pro tip: you can actually run 3 Sparrows and 3 Phoenixes.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
We love custom loadouts!!!
@gtmike916
Жыл бұрын
No you can’t run 3 and 3. It wouldn’t let me do that and I tried multiple times.
@Boris_The_Turtle
Жыл бұрын
@@gtmike916 You can, and I do. You just have to put a Phoenix and a Sparrow on the outermost pylon near the Sidwinders.
Can you do a tutorial on switching radar? Could use the help
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Probably not a dedicated thing for that, although I made do a short. In the meantime all you have to do is press the button to switch lock types while you're already locked on
@buckwildlonghorn8843
Жыл бұрын
@General Lee ok might be something I need to fool with. Right now in the f 14 my radar looks like a pie shape on screen and its a pain to get a lock and change targets. Yours looks different and way easier to use.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
@@buckwildlonghorn8843 check my radar tutorial!
pheonix is the only cheese way to get kills in sim
When I am playing I run 4 aim 7fs 2 aim54s 2 aim9hs on small to medium maps, and on ec maps I run 4 phoenixs 2 aim7fs and 2 aim9hs
what's the command name to asign button for next target like that?
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Switch Radar target AFAIK
@sam0jagaming424
Жыл бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 Thanks!
the only weakspot in F-14 is: Radar.
i think its not fair that the f-4s gets put in matches with the f-16 and mig-29
Yeah I got to see the buff in person when they first did it. Got hit side-aspect by a 54… I saw the lock, notched it and spammed literally all my chaff/flares which was like 30ish each. Still got hit directly from the side. I watched the damn thing come right from the left side of my screen and slam into the wing of my jet. Only time I’ve been more pissed off at gaijin is when their Gepards one shot headshot my pilot going Mach or higher. I’m Aim54 are supposed to be easy to defeat. You’re supposed to be able to literally just notch it and it’s done. Yet notching AND 30 chaff did nothing?.. okay..
@rangomangogamer8919
Жыл бұрын
If you don’t maneuver then the missile will use the last information it got and will intercept you regardless, if you maneuver it will not maneuver with you if you had notched and chaffed it would’ve lost lock and no longer is tracking you, it was just tracking your last radar signal.
I find so many people don't know how to play the F-16. In a sustained turn it beats every top tear jet in the game, you just have to slow down to 600-700 kph. All the other jets bleed to much speed and energy and in the 16 you end up coming around the circle to their 6....and there is nothing they can do about it!
I would say the F-14 is the best top tier in the current meta, most kills in a average match are made with radar missiles, and you get 6 opportunities to do it. Sure the R-27ER puts the Aim7F to shame, but Mig29 can only carry 2 of them and the F-14 still outperforms a mig29 in a dogfight + better radar for situation awareness
I heard about the buff so I tried the tomcat again and fired 10 phoenixes in tws with no hits lol. I prefer fox 1s anyway
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
That's fair. Perhaps my Phoenixes were just blessed by the snail 😤
F-14A should 100% stay at 11.7, has weaker flight performance than the f-16 and mig and a weaker radar and thrust than the yak. Only advantage it has is the aim54 but its more gimmicky than reliable kills. However some of the other jets you listed dont really deserve 11.7 and should probably be be dropped down to 11.3. Mirage 2k really didnt deserve the nerf to 11.7
it still doesn't loft nearly enough. Should be 30 degree's plus in most scenario's. It still just keeps itself level most of the time unless you're throwing it super long distance
@user-if4zv5nj5m
Жыл бұрын
This hard loft happens only at high altitudes, (around 10km and definitely not lower than 7km) and long distances (70km or more), while aiming at a target with high altitude. In wt we never get these altitudes, and for 30-40 km shots, when missile hits while still burning or shortly after, straight trajectory is just kinematically better
Not looking forward to this when I reach top tier air.
i just want a half-decent equivalent to russia's magical data-link, IOG-guided Fox 1. i am finding it increasingly hard to believe that even AIM-7Ms weren't equipped with atleast SOME sort of analogue to the technology- if we get to lofting AIM-7MHs that still cant handle losing lock for more than 3s im probably gonna some rip hairs out lmao
@gotanon9659
Жыл бұрын
Its gaijin they have to artificially nerf everybody missiles just to make russia air to air missile good in comparison.
@davidilie8004
Жыл бұрын
@@gotanon9659 source: trust me bro
3:31 maybe the map designer doesent have a place on the game. If they bothered on designing maps with objectives for bombers they would be useful.
Is that a Defyn Skill issue decal I see.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
👀 Mayhaps
I actually believe that the Yak-141 is superior to the F-14. The Zhuk radar has about 100km range on TWS and the R-27ER is among the fastest missiles in game, not to mention FVIFFing and its overal agility. The only problem with it is its relatively low top speed and 4 missile slots (again, counteracted by the option to have 4 R27's).
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Personally the energy retention and the ability to carry 6 AIM-7Fs puts the F-14 above the Yak IMO, although it is very good. I just wish jt was allowed to carry 4 R-27ERs, that would be nutty
@damirvakhitov9213
Жыл бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 I forgot to mention that the zhuk radar has about an 85° horizontal himbal limit, meaning that you can hypothetically notch whilst keeping your radar on target. Also, the lack of energy retention is very much counteracted by the sheer, incomprehensible acceleration of the Yak.
R27er lofts
If they're gonna nerf the thrust to Mk47 levels they should at least also make it smokeless, like the Mk47 was designed for. It'd sure as hell make it harder to dodge, since you wouldn't be able to see it unless they give it a permanent diamond OR give it the missile diamond while in pitbull range (since they actually fire off already active in WT, also I think they should do that for all Fox-3 missiles especially because almost all of them have smokeless motors). Doesn't matter to me tho, I don't play anymore, thank fuck. Also, still not convinced the 54 actually lofts. When you pointed out that example, you also fired the missile intentionally pointing your nose upwards, and then dropped it after. It kept around the same angle you had when it launched, it used to do exactly that. And I didn't really see it bend either, even looking at its trail. It just looked like it was lofting (I guess it was, just forced) because you were no longer at that same climb angle, so it drifted above your nose. To truly test if it actually lofts, you'd need to fire on a very slow moving, large target as far away as possible, while having your nose level, not flight path level, nose level, and as slow as you can get, co-altitude with the target. This will make it so it HAS to loft if it wants ANY hope of hitting the target. Something like a PBY or BV-238 at like 20k feet and preferably around 75-100km away.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
I can tell you 100 percent for certain it does loft against faraway targets, I've done testing as well. If you're in my discord I can show you too. :) The Mk 47 wasn't smokeless BTW, that was the Mk 47 Mod 1.
@evangalinsky2499
Жыл бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 I don't play anymore nor use discord much anymore so I'm not in it. But I'll take your word for it.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
@@evangalinsky2499 Fair. Feel free to join if you ever feel like it, I appreciate seeing you in my comments either way!
It still doesn’t loft as real life for targets further than 60 km it should climb to 80000 feet or 23 KM
0:44 Eh, dont get me wrong i like the F14 but, i have more fun in the F16 than anything eles.
R-27ER is lofting aswell
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
You can manually loft it yes, but it doesn't actually have the code to actively notch like the Phoenix
First thing I did was test with a buddy how far you could slap a bitch with these. Let's just say that Gaijin will have to push the max radar detection range (105km) out a little farther for me to find that point...
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Yup! Technical admin on the forums said 130 km shots are feasible now
@Registered_Simp
Жыл бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 High altitude 80km shots are actually scary now for standard RB (or even scarier for SB) cause someone may not see the launch. They'll be spending a few seconds figuring out if it's a plane or a missile cause we don't have a launch tone yet
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
@@Registered_Simp well and the thing is, the Phoenix wouldn't even give a tone on launch (provided you launch it in TWS of course). You would only get the tone once it goes active.
@Registered_Simp
Жыл бұрын
@@GeneralLee2000 Kinda what I mean. I'm just stating how it compounds the issue since from my own testing, the average point the Aim-54 goes active is around 7 seconds to impact. To have to take 3 seconds of that to figure out of it's a plane or not (or maybe not at all) is annoying as hell
cap, yak141 is the best BVR figher ingame
Why would anyone take Phoenix out? Such a useless weapon since everyone is keeping close to the ground Just take 6 Sparrows
I respectfully disagree about best missle , the longer 40km lock range of Aim7m defeats R37ER every time
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
The lock range stat doesn't really mean anything, the ER can score hits much further out than 40 km because it guides off of datalink. I've scored hits in excess of 60km with it personally, you can actually see it on my last MiG-29 video as well :)
@LewisB3217
Жыл бұрын
R27 is the best missile rn, sparrows aren’t long range bvr missiles, and the r27 is faster, aim120 would be better vs r27
Well that's bullshit it's the king of bvr, because it's the *Only One* that can bvr... R-27er can hit out to 30km on a good day and if the target is an AI plane..6:48 and *that* is exactly why it's a bullshit vehicle
played a few games and got 0 phoenix kills yeah no fuck phoenixes are still all luck based and im gonna stick to aim7s
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
They're not luck based, but the 7F is definitely better for killing fighters so I won't fault you for it
Personally I prefer flying the F-16A ADF. The radar is much better and I’m a big fan of the flight model. Maybe I’m just flying the F-14 wrong, but I always seem to have horrible luck with it, despite me performing quite well with the F-4J
I'm at low tear. The game seems boring just lauching missiles at higher tears
@Neves_23
Жыл бұрын
as vezes é chato mesmo, principalmente quando você toma um míssil sem saber de onde mas é legal a mistura de míssil e dogfight que o jogo proporciona em certos momentos
@undeleteduser
Жыл бұрын
@@Neves_23 real né... Mas sempre vai ter cara com flare e outros lançando mísseis do espaço
the f16 is gross rn w 9Ls acting how they r
I want the AIM-54 to have a ridiculous cost associated with them, so if you use one or two not to bad but if you spam 6 go back and spam another 6 you go broke
@czester9991
Жыл бұрын
Already going broke isn't that hard
@Thunderbox247
Жыл бұрын
@@czester9991 eh, the idea was to screw those players who just dump 6 phoenixes RTB and do it again and rarely get kills
@czester9991
Жыл бұрын
Then don't play top tier, it's pure cancer. I have shitload od jets and im not playing them
@Thunderbox247
Жыл бұрын
@@czester9991 I don't
moving up its br wont do anything
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
It really will. War Thunder has quantitative matchmaking, which means that in 11.0-12.0 games you can only have 4 12.0s... there's no limit on 11.7s. So a full team of F-14s with 4 F-16s can fight a full team of MiG-21s with 4 MiG-29s
Im just gonna be annoying and say it, first
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
You were indeed first
Nope r27er is still better
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
Well yes, but you don't get 6 of them and the F-14s radar
this guy killed 4 people in 20 sec and say " it's not a how you win the game with 6 phoenix" what a joke
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
That was an unusual match 😅 that's not typically how that would go. But me showing all the matches I fired a bunch and got 1 or no hits isn't fun to watch.
just waiting for the F15 and AMRAAMs
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
F-15A can't carry AMRAAM BTW, so we probably won't get that combo just yet
F16 is much better than the f14 I have more aces in the f16 and I’ve take 2 f14s at the same time I honestly target f14s as they are dangerous for my team who doesn’t see them yet and that’s it imo
Its a advertisement video, from a paid "content creator". Dont belive anything he has to say, its pure, evil lies. Like all gayjin employee, he has one goal in mind, to rip you off.
@Lizardmium
Жыл бұрын
I wonder who "pays" us 🤔
@nagykiss6020
Жыл бұрын
Gayjin. Very intresting how any "independent content creator" never adresses any issue or contraversy with this game...just praises to hell....like he never played it at once....
@Lizardmium
Жыл бұрын
@Nagy Kiss lee doesnt praise it, me neither. There are content creators that constantly bitch on the game and get huge views from it, but im not into that. If you like pessimistic content more, go watch that, but i believe nobody is here to hear someone crying how bad gaijins decisions are for 5 minutes straight.
@GeneralLee2000
Жыл бұрын
With all due respect, I've literally posted 3 rant videos already and I'm still a new CC. Refer to my "F-14 Problem" vid (which BTW is my most viewed video) "War Thunders Attacker Problem", and one of my VERY RECENT ones about Russian top tier...
@fineline2212
Жыл бұрын
You sound like you're on Eagle Dynamic's payroll.