I really like your down to earth, non-pretentious review. Most watch reviewers are totally "up their own arse" but you sir are a breath of fresh air. More reviews please.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mark - that means a lot to me. Stay tuned more are on the way!! I hope you subscribed so you don't miss any. ;) ;)

Two or three years ago I bought two Orient watches for my sons. I bought a pilot watch for my oldest son who is currently a pilot in the USAF and a black Ray 2 for my youngest son who's a member of the Army National Guard. The Ray 2 has been to several training sessions with him mud, water, etc. Both have been good tough watches. The Army only always black or dark brown watches while on duty or at least he's unit.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

I think Orient is often not considered when inexpensive watches are considered.

@abajaj1510

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you and your sons for their service 😊

Clean, concise and honest review. Thank you so much for the wonderful video.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Shashank. Glad you enjoyed it.

I recently purchased the Orient Ray 2 Orange 🍊 dial and absolutely love it 👍🏻

Well documented review. That's means a positive help to the buyer. Congrats.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Josep.

Great review. Straight to the point and no pretentious BS. Also I really liked it when you said “ I like dolphins” super wholesome

@artl52

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Sylas. I try to pin the BS meter on the left side ;)

Orient watches are part of Seiko Epson. Seiko watches are part of Seiko Holdings Corp. While they are both controlled by the Seiko Group, they are wholly independent companies. Each has complete freedom as far as design and production is concerned. Orient is most certainly not "in essence" a Seiko.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

I think I mentioned they were independent and autonomous. Thx for watching

@Mikishots

5 жыл бұрын

@@artl52 Then you've contradicted yourself.

@Beanjuice

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mikishots Yup he definitely did. Disliked for that very reason. Seriously hate when people call Orients a "cheap Seiko" when in fact Orients, for the most part, are better built and have almost none existent QC issues.

I just purchased one. I like it. Great review!

@artl52

Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

Great story line, well done. I also love my ray 2...its nice looking and comfortable

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Craig. No reason to give these a pass for sure.

Nice review Arthur. I'm waiting for my delivery of this Blue Ray diver, a 'Black Friday' special. I sold on my Seiko SKX as I was never happy with the shake rewind (non hack)

Very nice review! I’ve always been intrigued by the Ray II (particularly the blue) and I think you finally closed me on it! Keep up the good work. I’ll definitely subscribe.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks David. As I said in the review, it's surprisingly good and a great value. Almost seems like a secret. ;)

Very nice delivery, sir. More like this would be well received!

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Hello Ian. Thx for watching - you can be sure there are more reviews like this in the works. ;)

I bought the Mako II last year and I absolutely love it. It runs about +4 seconds and I haven't had any problems with it what so ever.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

That's another good one Yankin'. Thx for watching

What a fantastic review! You do an excellent job of presenting your thoughts and comments about the Orient Ray 11, which makes it a delight to listen to you as I learned so much about the history or Orient and the specs of this watch. I am brand new to your Channel and really look forward to some of your future productions. Having said that, I think I will be reviewing the content of videos in your library on your Channel on KZread. Thanks for taking the time to put this production together.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ed. I am so glad you enjoyed it and appreciate your comments.

@edf2953

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Arthur, I just pulled the plug and placed an order for the Orient Ray 11 in Blue from Long Island Watch. I researched many watches, but thanks in part to your comments and production of this video, I decided on the Orient Ray 11. I’m sure I will be happy with my decision and anxious to receive the watch soon. All the best. Ed

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

well done,Ed. I'm sure you'll like it.

Couldn't agree more -- absolutely love my Mako II...especially since I'll likely never own any watch over $500 during this life span - the $10k Grand Seiko Snowflake is merely a dream. That said, you can really make this Orient diver look fabulous with this bad-ass strap: 22mm Bonetto Cinturini 270 Black Smooth Italian Rubber Dive Watch Band Strap - available for about $30 on ebay.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

skay- you've obviously discovered the secret of strap mash up. Diff kinds for diff looks. Like having a new watch. Thx for watching

Arthur, one of the best inexpensive diver that people missed is the Seiko SRP491K1, the Stargate 11, the one with the SS bezel. I have many divers, but this bezel just stands out, apart from the overall case design. The 2 big hands lume light a lantern. The bevel edge indices is unique. The color of the lume is also unique. It's kind of bluish green. I bought it for less than 200usd

Awesome review, I am in the market for an automatic watch and was debating between Seiko and Orient, Island Watch is not too far from me and I know they have this in stock... Thank you for helping me make up my mind...

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

thx Karl. It's a great watch and a great value.

Thanks for the great review. I own the Seiko SKX007 and the Orient Ray Raven II. I love the hacking and hand winding of the Orient Ray raven II and it wears better on my small wrist than the SKX007.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Thx Bartee. A couple years ago, I bought a SKX b/c of all the attention to it. I didn't like it and returned it, partly b/c it was too large for me and that I didn';t like the lack of hacking. That's when I bought the Ray. Still have the Orient and wear it often.

Very nice entry watches!! I own 3 of their styles. A very well thought out review and well executed!

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

thank you Salvador.

@supermeseriasu

3 жыл бұрын

What color looks better?

Great Introduction , very informative Video .

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Thx Arnaldo.

That was a very good overview - thank you.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Thx Snack.

Wanting to improve on my Pulsar Dive watch, after much research I ordered my Orient Ray II two days ago. Am really looking forward to it !

@artl52

2 жыл бұрын

I think you will like it.

Great piece, have one myself

I have the Raven as well as the Seiko 5 sport concrete model. The Orient has a superior build quality and feels more expensive than it is. The screw down crown and loomed pip on the bezel definitely make this watch a winner. The bezel also has a firmer grip with zero play, while my Seiko has a cheap feel and bit of wobble.

Fantastic review. Thanks.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Thank You Austin.

I actually put the extra strap that came with my Hamilton Pan Europe on it. I think it looks cool with it. Its in one of the videos on my Channel "The 100% club"

I love my blue dial Ray 2. I did have a common problem with the bezel being difficult to rotate. Now it rotated easier after I removed the bezel and removed excess glue under the bezel insert!

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Hello John. Sometimes all it takes is a minor tweak. Glad it worked out for you.

Very good review! Seems like you have a positive attitude in life.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching, P. Sz. Cheers!

I have a black one on a NATO Bond strap . Looks like a Rolex submariner.

Thanks for your very informative video on this watch. I live in the UK and Orient watches are not well known over here. I came across the Orient brand by watching videos on KZread mainly from Urban Gentry initially and Long Island watch, both have been very informative on what watches I buy, in fact it was Urban Gentry which gave me an interest in watch collecting so it's the fault of TGV that I have so many now from my initial Casio watch I had. I now own three Orient watches, a three star model and two Orient Solar Neo 70 Panda Chronographs and several Seiko's. As I have only a small wrist watches from 37mm to 40mm suit me the best on my wrist so this watch at 41mm shouldn't be too bad so am certainly interested in buying one eventually. Thanks again from here in the UK.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ednam. Welcome to the world of watch collecting haha. It's difficult to stop once you started, I know from personal experience. And as you know, Orient are surprisingly good watches.

@stevenholmes4339

5 жыл бұрын

Sir... You are infected with horological virus like the rest of us.... Welcome to the club👍

Excellent review sir! I have owned the Ray 2 and featured it on my own channel. I am thinking about buying it. I can get the black dial brand new for $127 on the rubber strap.

@artl52

4 жыл бұрын

Great value watch, as you know. Hard part is choosing the dial color ;)

Just purchased a Blue Ray 2 from creation watches, $140 (£106.00) delivered to the UK. Should be here any day. I have the SKX013 which I find a little small for my wrist. Was going to go for the 007 but the price and reviews of the Ray 2 swung it for me. I'll keep mine on the steel bracelet as I don't like rubber, see how I get on with it, but may swap that out for a Strapcode. Thanks for your honest review.

@artl52

3 жыл бұрын

Thx Robert. I think you'll like it and as I said, it's a great value.

Got me a Mako 2 with a pepsi bezel and boy is it a gorgeous watch and it's running at about +6/+8. Only time will tell if it's the best Auto Diver.

Excellent review. I'm looking for a Blue Diver/Diver style watch. Confused between Orient Ray II and Seiko SRPB89.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Go to Long Island Watch and check out the specs on both. Buy whatever appeals to you. Good Luck.

great review!

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Thx Marcra... I can't get over how much I like this one given the price. A great deal for sure.

@MarcraM82

5 жыл бұрын

@@artl52 considering you own divers at much higher prices, you are a perfect person to make that judgement

Love my black RayII. Got it for$117.00 US.on Amazon. Put an after market bracelet on it. Still less than$200. Amazing watch.

@artl52

3 жыл бұрын

Amazing price!

I'm glad for owning this watch...

@abramwinne

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

I have a blue ray 2 My biggest complaint is the extremely stiff bezel

Thank you for the review! I think it's worth noting that the Orient retail price is $335.00(USD), with that comes the genuine Orient 1-year warranty. That being said, I bought my Ray 2 from Amazon for $172.00 in March of 2017. I've had absolutely no problems with it, so that "gamble" paid off. Also, I find the stock bracelet to be more than adequate and have no justifiable reason to replace it at this time. Time accuracy has been very good, better than some of my Seikos with the 6R15 movement. The lume is equal to Seiko lume, IMO. This is a great watch at Amazon pricing, and I'll venture to say that it's even a good watch at full Orient MSRP.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

I agree Stephen. Orient watches seem to be under appreciated and more or less unknown. Definitely a good value.

I passed on this and nearly bought a Mako Usa because of the sapphire chrystal. The Shipping and import taxes to the uk pushed up the cost too much. I bought a Black Seagull Ocean Star and am really pleased with it. I have an Orient Bambino v4 and am afraid to wear it because of the mineral chrystal.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

It's unfortunate that in many countries, import duties and shipping add so much to the price of a watch that it becomes no longer viable. I like my Seagull 1963 chrono and the Bambino is a very good value. Don't be afraid to wear it, watches are meant to be worn ;).

@xavierghazi4939

5 жыл бұрын

"I have an Orient Bambino v4 and am afraid to wear it because of the mineral chrystal." No reason to be afraid, Neil. I wear mine (2) frequently and never had a problem with either crystal by just being reasonably careful.

@neilpiper9889

5 жыл бұрын

@@artl52 I have sold my Bambino now as I have decided not to have any non sapphire chrystal watches. I bought a Seagull 819 316 flying wheel retrograde day date which is very accurate and also beautiful. A great dress watch.

I really like the orient logo it reminds me of logos that some cigarbox has on thems well somes that i seeing that blue on that dial is what sales this watch is like a love potion.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

The blue is what first drew me in lugoj. Then I found it was pretty darn good watch for the money.

@lugoj7181

5 жыл бұрын

@@artl52 Yea i will have to get one of them

For my first watch i choose invicta prodiver,wat can u tell me about it.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with Invicta, Amine. I don't know much about the brand other than it uses functional movements (less expensive) and the finishing on the dials, hands and cases is consistent with the pricing.

I think the Ray 2 is the most underrated diver style watch. I bought mine for $130 and I think it offer much more than it's more popular cousin the SKX. Especially if you factor in the price. The Ray 2 offers hacking and winding, applied indeces, signed crown and better quality bracelet, for at least $50 less. The only thing running for the SKX is that it's ISO 6425, making it a true divers watch. The Ray 2, while having a 200m water resistance, it's still not certified as a true diver. But who will take this diving anyway? The elapse time bezel is meant to measure your no-decompression limit (NDL) and not your remaining air supply. The deeper you go, the faster you consume your air supply because there is more pressure at depth and compressing the air to a smaller volume. So you breath in more air for the same lung volume. So the only way you can accurately measure your remaining air supply is with a pressure gauge. That being said, I love the review. I love my my Ray 2 and I mostly agree with your review... Cheers!

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Carlo - I couldn't agree more on the under rated aspect of the Ray 2. Especially in comparison to the SKX which everyone seems to love despite it's "flaws". And thanks for setting me straight on the air supply. Obviously I'm not a diver and I didn't know the facts you mentioned. I'm always learning and that's part of the fun of watch collecting. Cheers!

Awesome watch!!! I traded my Submariner for a Uboat Chimera. This Orient 2 keeps much more accurate time than ANY ROLEX

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

It's surprisingly good. Thx for watching Kristopher

@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo

5 жыл бұрын

A Uboat ?? Yuck................ If you would have said grand Seiko or anything else i would've understood.............

@eeyyaakk6801

5 жыл бұрын

Kristopher Cantu why do I keep hearing that other brands can be more accurate than a Rolex? are Rolex timepieces overrated?

@eddieo9195

5 жыл бұрын

LOL... ok

hey what are the differences between Ray 2 and Ray Raven 2?

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Not sure off hand but I suggest you check out Long Island Watch. Marc's description should explain it.

My Kamasu just failed at just 2 months old.

the quality of the watch for the money is insane

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

I agree Mike. A great piece. Thx for watching

I like these Orient watches because they're not that common in the US. I nearly bought a Seiko Turtle or Samurai but I find this a more unique piece at a great price point.

@artl52

4 жыл бұрын

I agree Timothy. The only problem I see is that some of the Orient models are rather large.

A few negatives I found owning this watch for almost 2 years. -Crown is a bit too small for a diver. -Bezel's grip is not that great compared to say an SKX. -Push pins holding the bracelet are quite thin for a diver. -The font used for "Automatic" and "Water resist" looks tacky and dated (this is subjective tho) Other than that, it's a very good diver for its price. BUT not the best inexpensive diver. At this price point, I'd have to say the best would be from testing in actual dives and daily wear: 1. Seiko Monster (2nd gen) - Hacks and hand winds too, and best lume at this price point (both in longevity and legibility under murky water), the crown action feels perfect, drilled lugs for quick strap change to a Nato for diving and back on a bracelet for day to day use. 2. Seiko SKX007 or SKX009 (it looks, feels and operates more like a diver's tool watch than the Ray II). 3. Orient Ray II (probably the best "DESK" diver watch at this price - not saying you can't take it diving without issues. 4. Orient Mako II (4th behind the Ray II cuz of the lume). PS. I own all these watches except the Mako II, Seiko Black Monster (2nd gen) for about 5 years, Seiko SKX007 for about 4 and half years, Orient Blue Ray II for almost 2 years.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

All good points, Lucian. I'm a desk diver, so I have no watch diving experience other than taking the BR II in the oceans and swimming pools. I do/did own other inexpensive divers - SKX007, SKX009, Citizen Pepsi auto (NY2300-09G). For me, the Orient was the best. SKX007 too big, no hack/hw. SKX009 better size, no hack/hw. Citizen - OK. I plan to do a comparison of the Citizen and the Orient sometime. I have not tried the Monster (2nd gen as you suggest). It would be ineresting to see how it is based on my non-diving use. Thx for watching and info. I need to find a way to borrow a Monster to check it out. ps. I just checked Long Island Watch. The Seiko Monster (2nd gen) is almost $100 more than the Orient Blue Ray II. What would you suggest in the $150 range?

@totogosu8698

5 жыл бұрын

@@artl52 looking forward to your review of the monster if you ever get your hands on one.

@nikekoh6100

4 жыл бұрын

above listed qwatch only orient is with sapphire .

can this watch last atleast 10 years?

@artl52

4 жыл бұрын

I don't see why not, if it's not abused. I've had mine for almost 4 years and it's still working well.

All good. But this is not a certified diver watch. But I like anyway!

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

You are correct Ofer. But for under $200 this is not bad. Thx for watching.

Best dive watch for the price. My dream bae. Seiko 5 sucks compared to this.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

That's exactly how I feel. I bought a SKX a couple of years ago and returned it. Orient is like a stealth brand. Thanks for watching.

@johndonnelly5971

5 жыл бұрын

I wouldnt exactly say Seiko 5 sucks, that is is a bit extreme. Orient had a limited number of models compared to Seiko, and the 5 series are good solid performers, offering buyers an alternative to pricier Seiko models, which is a very cool idea. Finally remember that Orient is a Seiko in disguise now.

@nikekoh6100

4 жыл бұрын

@@johndonnelly5971 price point + orient sapphire =KO

Nice watch, but I still prefer the Seiko SKX.

Great review! I own one. Love it! I subscribed. Check out my channel if you get a chance. You might like it. Thanx again for the great info.

Watch is good.. its expencive but quality watch.. I have black..bought it 10 days ago.. But the worst thing on the watch.. this and kamasu is Polished bezel.. it looks like girl watch with swarovski christal.. not just my opinion.. Lot of people..men and women sad that watch looks nice.. but with polished besel look kinda like woman watch..

These are not the best cheap diver watches stock. If you install a sapphire crystal and good spring bars, then they are good. As stock watches they are just garbage due to their horrific shit crystals and spring bars. The stock crystal will scratch and even chip without you even knowing how. The stock spring bars will fail on you which could leave you losing your watch, or damaging it making it where you might as well have lost it. To me a damaged watch is just as bad as having it lost, because it is unwearable junk then.

@artl52

5 жыл бұрын

Waktosha - what would you consider the best cheap diver? I'm curious. Thx for watching.

@silverghost4206

2 жыл бұрын

Your calling orient watches junk?. An i bet you think paying 10 grand for a rolex is the correct thing to do right?. Rolex watches should be no more than 3,000 to buy. An thats being generous. The orient star diver is my next watch, the 1964 diver, an that is not junk. Id take that over any rolex.... Only watch ill never need, besides the other two orients i own an one omega watch.

I have a blue ray 2 My biggest complaint is the extremely stiff bezel

@adamg5780

4 жыл бұрын

Hello Mohamed, very late response but I was wondering if you could tell me if your dial loosened up over time?

@silverghost4206

4 жыл бұрын

Its better to have a stiff bezel... Than a loose one... Alittle to loose.... It will break in.. Due time..... Be patient. But be gentle....