The A-10 Warthog VERSUS The Su-25 Frogfoot

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    @phizc

    6 ай бұрын

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    6 ай бұрын

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  • @KarlChilders-bt3hf

    @KarlChilders-bt3hf

    6 ай бұрын

    The a-10 is intended for ground support after air superiority has been ascertained which the US always does first. Russia rarely if ever gains air supremacy. The a-10 is in no way intended for a2a combat. For the sake of hypothetical discussion though, growling sidewinder did a few simulated a2a between the two on his channel and The a-10 won all or nearly all the encounters with the frog foot .

  • @321-Gone

    @321-Gone

    6 ай бұрын

    I like this MP v MP format.

  • @smokejaguarsix7757

    @smokejaguarsix7757

    2 күн бұрын

    Hold on. The A10 was sent against Iraqi armored Divisions. Those Divisions had heavy anti-air capability. The Frogfoot has generally not fought in such conditions even against Iran. Russian SU25s avoid major land formations because they would be shot down. The A10 was sent into the thick of them. A10s flew right through Bagdad, some of the most heavily defended skies on the planet ever and most made it home. You didnt even mention that. The SU25 has never been used under those circumstances. Also, the A10 flew many sorties doing CAS for US ground troops. The Frogfoot is not used in that manner. It shows up, drops ordnance then runs. It doesnt stick around. The A10 loiters taking ground fire while providing CAS for ground troops. These planes are not used the same way so comparing them is just stupid. If you used the SU25 the same way it would be easy to compare. The reason the Russians dont use it for CAS or Armor hunting is because the SU25 is not good at either missions. Also, Ukraine wasnt offered A10s and F16s. It was offered either A10s or F16s and they requested F16s. They have SU25s and most importantly, they can produce and acquire munitions for SU25s. Being uncertain as to continued aid packages from the US, Ukraine declined the A10 since they cant maintain or arm it. They did however say it was the A10 was a better plane than the SU25. Ukraine doesnt do CAS and Russian tank convoys are too small to bother with sending a plane to stop them so they have little use for an A10 outside of strike missions. Since they already have the SU25 and armament and maintenance packages for the SU25 they dont have a need for the A10 as much as F16. You didnt even mention that, seems disingenuous.

  • @daiakunin
    @daiakunin6 ай бұрын

    Let's take this debate to where it belongs: the war thunder forums. I expect to see classified blueprints for both of these aircraft on the war thunder forums in less than a week.

  • @benrockefeller6334

    @benrockefeller6334

    6 ай бұрын

    Funny, but for the record Alex Hollings researched the supposed leaks and was able to prove that none of them were actually leaking classified documents. He was able to find every single piece of information from the leaks on other websites, many in even more complete forms. The reason for them being called "leaks" were that the specific people in question were not personally allowed to post the information. (That is, they were not personally allowed to disseminate the info in the way they tried to, even if the info wasn't classified. )

  • @ace_trace_2237

    @ace_trace_2237

    6 ай бұрын

    Not much about the A-10 is classified aside from the secure speech, IFF, and EW systems, which is mostly just frequencies

  • @MoA-Reload...

    @MoA-Reload...

    5 ай бұрын

    They're to busy waiting for modern Naval to be added so they can go ham with Type 45 and Arleigh Burke specs

  • @DoomViper
    @DoomViper6 ай бұрын

    Match-ups sounds like a great idea. Also I've never heard of a frogfoot flying home on 1 engine, 1 wing, and a pair of brass ovaries at the stick!!

  • @steur5693

    @steur5693

    6 ай бұрын

    I have, in Ukraine

  • @ulfasplund3514

    @ulfasplund3514

    6 ай бұрын

    @@steur5693cool, who and when?

  • @guilhermevitorio273

    @guilhermevitorio273

    6 ай бұрын

    But I've also never heard an unbiased A-10 story

  • @FOH45

    @FOH45

    6 ай бұрын

    Ukraine

  • @steur5693

    @steur5693

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ulfasplund3514 I need to find the footage

  • @dmacpher
    @dmacpher6 ай бұрын

    This comment section is going to end up very balanced and cordial 😂

  • @LuckyDogGaming

    @LuckyDogGaming

    6 ай бұрын

    No one gives a shit about that Soviet trashcan with wings. Lol see

  • @ulfasplund3514

    @ulfasplund3514

    6 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @rossh2386

    @rossh2386

    5 ай бұрын

    Screw Russia they don’t know anything about brrrt

  • @R2Manny

    @R2Manny

    5 ай бұрын

    😂😂

  • @NismoXero

    @NismoXero

    4 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @davidhetzman5821
    @davidhetzman58216 ай бұрын

    To be honest two anti tank/personnel jets pitted against each other in a scenario that they were not designed for it would be to likely to result in mutual destruction/ draw

  • @rattledroar2426

    @rattledroar2426

    6 ай бұрын

    Probably not wrong, still would be cool to see a mock match up though one day.

  • @Ob1sdarkside

    @Ob1sdarkside

    6 ай бұрын

    @growlingsidewinder says different

  • @zwojack7285

    @zwojack7285

    6 ай бұрын

    Explain to me how the A-10 is anti tank.

  • @Yeet42069

    @Yeet42069

    6 ай бұрын

    Depends on if they have air to air missiles equipped and if they can flare each other's missiles or not. If they're out of missiles and alive, the frogfoot will just energy trap the a10 and kill it. Not much you can do with a weaker engine even if you can turn better. But scenario's like those don't happen.

  • @Ob1sdarkside

    @Ob1sdarkside

    6 ай бұрын

    Pilot skills and training will play a big role. Managing energy, dictating the fight to your aircraft strengths, one circle or two circle.

  • @travishenry5581
    @travishenry55816 ай бұрын

    I truly love and appreciate how unbiased this analysis and review was. Thanks for sharing this 😊🙏🏾

  • @Pyratemime
    @Pyratemime6 ай бұрын

    Such a fun idea provided it doesn't only focus on military equipment since there are lots of channels that do that specifically already.

  • @AskAScreenwriter
    @AskAScreenwriter6 ай бұрын

    One other aspect to compare (When possible) is cost of operations/maintenance, including ordnance. One may be better, but far more expensive to operate.

  • @MikeU128
    @MikeU1286 ай бұрын

    One of the last rounds of upgrades for the A-10 included a head-mounted AR display, which improved SA even more compared to the HUD.

  • @carmenmb94
    @carmenmb946 ай бұрын

    We need to consider another factor: pilot training integration. It's never completely about the machine, it's the pilot's ability to exploit its strengths and compensate for its weaknesses.

  • @RiffeLivingLife
    @RiffeLivingLife6 ай бұрын

    Match ups is a great idea and I all for it! Can't wait to see all the head to heads yall can come up with. Maybe next do M1Abrams vs the T90?

  • @devendoffing7004

    @devendoffing7004

    6 ай бұрын

    Dude, T-90’s have been getting taken out by T-64’s. How do you think it’ll fair against a modern Abrams?😂

  • @pierluigiadreani2159

    @pierluigiadreani2159

    6 ай бұрын

    @@devendoffing7004 And Russians recently destroyed a Leopard 2a6 with a T72, stupid argument. Probably the last iteration of the Abrams has the edge due to electronics and systems, but as crude platform I would prefer the t90 due to its smaller dimensions and reliability. The Abrams is anything but wunderwaffe, Blacktail has been roasting the platform for the better part of 13 years with well documented sources.

  • @asabovesobelow4180

    @asabovesobelow4180

    6 ай бұрын

    That would be a really interesting video

  • @TheoAnon

    @TheoAnon

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@pierluigiadreani2159damn i'd hate to be in a tank that regularly competes in turret toss competitions because it's autoloader is just primed to pop and cook off. At least the abrams has blow out panels and wet ready racks. That said the crew isn't surviving a very angry, high velocity lawn dart that penetrates, if the spall doesn't kill you, the flash heating will from the sheer kinetic energy transfer at the point of penetration superheating the space. Apfsds rounds are literally the most dangerous modern round because of this fact. They literally microwave the occupants

  • @Shoelessjoe78

    @Shoelessjoe78

    6 ай бұрын

    ​​​@@pierluigiadreani2159Probably... You have no idea what you're talking about. Abrams definitely has an advantage in armor, mobility, and firepower. Nothing is invincible, but it's not a contest. Even Russia doesn't debate this whixh is why you're trying a whole new platform. You'd rather be in an Abrams if your life came to it and so would I.

  • @rnp497
    @rnp4976 ай бұрын

    I think they are both good planes for their role. They both win in some areas and loss in others

  • @Militavia

    @Militavia

    6 ай бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/qJqfs5KoYqzFZpM.html

  • @shaider1982
    @shaider19826 ай бұрын

    Su25 actually looks a bit like the A-9: the competitor to the A-X program which the A10 won. A10 was said to be more survivable due to the placement of the engines. Though politics was said to be a factor: the A10's maker, Republic, was not expected to survive if it lost the A10 while Northrup (later Northrup Grumman) did. Republican however is now defunct and the A10 is now being taken care by Boeing.

  • @a.t._hall827
    @a.t._hall8276 ай бұрын

    Loved this style of video Simon. Would definitely enjoy seeing more of them.

  • @ahseaton8353
    @ahseaton83536 ай бұрын

    A probably apocryphal anecdote I heard from an AFROTC buddy about the A-10 that sums up its versatility and tenacity of its pilots. During a wargame, an F-15 was lining up on an A-10 for an easy kill. The A-10 wasn't going to go down easy. Its pilot hit the airbrakes and the F-15 overshot. Then the A-10 hit the F-15 in the belly with a half second burst with its main brrrt gun. The F-15 pilot never lived it down and the A-10 added an F-15 silhouette to the side of his cockpit.

  • @MrLewis555
    @MrLewis5556 ай бұрын

    This is an interesting series idea some suggestions for future competitions Eurofighter Typhoon Vs Dassault Rafale - An idea from a recent video of yours on the Rafale F22 Raptor Vs YF23 Black Widow

  • @IrishCarney
    @IrishCarney6 ай бұрын

    Another Frog foot advantage: there are two-seater trainer versions and also navalized versions (with tail hooks) that can take off and land from aircraft carriers.

  • @ashscott6068

    @ashscott6068

    6 ай бұрын

    That would be useful...if Russia HAD an aircraft carrier. I can't think of any of the customers who bought the SU-25, who might have one, either. I guess those were made to be operated from the Admiral Kuznetsov, which hasn't worked properly since the day it was stolen.

  • @Potato-pl5cr

    @Potato-pl5cr

    6 ай бұрын

    Having a tail hook doesn't automatically qualify an aircraft suitable for a carrier, there's many other upgrades needed for that, one most important is seriously beefed up landing gear

  • @IrishCarney

    @IrishCarney

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Potato-pl5cr I didn't say the tail hook was the only thing that made it navalized. My point was that it was not only navalized but that it also had a tail hook so it could use arrestor gear. There are carriers like the British Queen Elizabeth class that don't have arrestors

  • @arthas640

    @arthas640

    6 ай бұрын

    ​​@@ashscott6068yeah being a "naval capable" plane doesn't mean anything when you don't have any really usable aircraft carriers. Also the US has proven before that they can launch planes never meant to take off or land on an aircraft carrier off a carrier. They've had a c-130 land on and take off from a Nimitz before... without a tail hook too!

  • @ashscott6068

    @ashscott6068

    6 ай бұрын

    @@IrishCarney But that's designed to carry F-35B's, so it doesn't need them. Yeah, arrestor gear is a nice-ish compromise, but how many customers of the SU-25 have you heard of ever using arrestor cables anywhere BUT on a carrier? They'd have to be a permanent installation on a runway, and if you have the luxury of that, you have the luxury of making the runway longer.

  • @CoCoNutShovel
    @CoCoNutShovel6 ай бұрын

    This is the most unbiased comparison commentary of military aircrafts on KZread. Great Job Simon ✌️✌️

  • @vlamm676
    @vlamm6766 ай бұрын

    Need more match-ups for sure! Amazing idea!

  • @Baldevi
    @Baldevi6 ай бұрын

    This was great, I loved it lots. I'd like to see more of these Vehicle VS Vehicle [Planes, cars, tanks, guns, etc] in the future.

  • @TheNewsDepot
    @TheNewsDepot6 ай бұрын

    The A-10 can also take off from pretty much any flat ground. It's high placed engines means it can take off from runways the Su-25 would destroy it's engines on. There is also the intimidation factor. The A-10 shows up flying low and slow in the area of operation and the enemy knows it right away because they can hear it's distinct engines and see it's bulky form in the sky and, if that doesn't bring it's presence to their attention, the BRRRRRT! of the 30mm cannon leaves no doubt. The A-10 has ended many fights just by showing up as the enemy generally has only two options, hide or die.

  • @fistpunder
    @fistpunder6 ай бұрын

    I started watching Simon Whistler on VisualPolitik EN and found him to be a great narrator and quite entertaining. I did not expect to enjoy all his other KZread works as well, but here I am. Great Videos Simon and I wish you many more years of success.

  • @KB-gq7ou

    @KB-gq7ou

    6 ай бұрын

    One of the best informative KZreadrs

  • @Levi_Amongst_the_Watchers
    @Levi_Amongst_the_Watchers6 ай бұрын

    If I'm on the ground and pinned down and I have the choice to call either aircraft, I'm calling in the A-10 every time hands down.

  • @benrockefeller6334

    @benrockefeller6334

    6 ай бұрын

    Sure. That's usually only a single sortie, or maybe two, and the A-10 excels in single sortie missions. If you need constant cover for hours on end though, the Su-25 will be more helpful.

  • @charlyspor7594

    @charlyspor7594

    6 ай бұрын

    I mean if your fighting rebels and militia that's fine, but if your fighting anyone with any form of air defense or manpads an a10 won't even make it near you

  • @Levi_Amongst_the_Watchers

    @Levi_Amongst_the_Watchers

    6 ай бұрын

    @@charlyspor7594 That's what I'm talking about. I wouldn't be pinned down by aircraft, generally a combat aircraft would just take out the ground troops they target so yeah, ground troops would be what I'm referring to when I say pinned down.

  • @jackdenihan5333

    @jackdenihan5333

    6 ай бұрын

    @@charlyspor7594we got these neat system in development, decoy drone carried by hard points on aircraft that drop off trigger the Surface to air missiles and make them waste the missiles and the things aren’t fast to reload. Interesting relatively low cost solution

  • @jonnybgoode7742

    @jonnybgoode7742

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@charlyspor7594 combat record proves you wrong already dude...

  • @ValkyrieofNOLA
    @ValkyrieofNOLA2 ай бұрын

    My Uncle is a Green Beret who is career military and combat veteran. He has said that the A-10, known as the Angel in the sky, or the tank killer, has saved him and his unit from certain death countless times. The sound of its giant cannon is so unique and it instills terror in the enemy. Just the sound of it makes the enemy turn tail and run

  • @andrezejobuch4527
    @andrezejobuch45276 ай бұрын

    Yet again Simon another cracking and inciteful video. Have a lot of interest in your channel so very much look forward to your videos

  • @FlukeyM
    @FlukeyM6 ай бұрын

    Love this idea. I would be very happy to see more match ups

  • @Michael_OBrian
    @Michael_OBrian6 ай бұрын

    Whichever one is closer when CAS is needed!

  • @reggiep75

    @reggiep75

    6 ай бұрын

    *THIS!!!!!* as there are too many meatbeaters bruising their genitals over the A-10.

  • @patrickmullen237
    @patrickmullen2376 ай бұрын

    Match ups are great keep them coming

  • @vonmoofles6702
    @vonmoofles67026 ай бұрын

    Loving this new Match up Idea. Keep it going my man!

  • @davidhiatt1486
    @davidhiatt14866 ай бұрын

    Match-ups are a great idea. Old and new! Terrific idea and great starter planes!

  • @ODGreenZa
    @ODGreenZa6 ай бұрын

    I just like the brrrrrrrrrttttttttt of the a10. Both are great close air support. Worth mentioning the frogfoot can use diesel as well

  • @Rattrap007

    @Rattrap007

    5 ай бұрын

    The brrrrrt is an automatic win in my book.

  • @agenda5119
    @agenda51196 ай бұрын

    If this is done properly it's an amazing concept absolutely loved this video 🔥👏

  • @mrdddeeezzzweldor5039
    @mrdddeeezzzweldor50396 ай бұрын

    Yes on the Matchup question! It's always good how your guys dig up the dirt and of course - the famed Whistler-livery makes it a 'must have'!

  • @user-cq4pk2sx8k
    @user-cq4pk2sx8k6 ай бұрын

    Great video, not the result I expected but definitely one that I’ve harbored over the years. I think mash-ups are great please keep making them.(idea for an episode Patriot vs S-3/400 series AD weapons)

  • @benrockefeller6334

    @benrockefeller6334

    6 ай бұрын

    I think they should try to only do matchups that are actually up for debate. I don't think anyone seriously believes that a top of the line Patriot is going to lose to an S-400. Maybe an S-500 (big maybe there), but not to an antique. 😂😁😄

  • @ashscott6068

    @ashscott6068

    6 ай бұрын

    @@benrockefeller6334 S-500 doesn't really exist until we see it actually doing something. If it existed, It would have been deployed to stop ruZZian bases in Crimea going boom. If I remember correctly, the head of the company was jailed for lying about the capabilities of the S-400. I mean a lie he told his government, not the ones his government then tell the world. :D It's deffo not much of an argument, when we are currently regularly seeing Patriots intercepting large coordinated missile attacks, at the same time we're seeing S-400 systems being taken out by a single missile or drone.

  • @voidtempering8700

    @voidtempering8700

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@benrockefeller6334 List S-400 has a larger range and kill radius, the Patriot is designed with other parameters. The S-400 and even the S-300 have far more confirmed shoot downs than any Patriot system.

  • @benrockefeller6334

    @benrockefeller6334

    6 ай бұрын

    @@voidtempering8700 Neither of those are really relevant to how good the systems are. The S-400 can see further, but it can't see very well at those ranges when compared to the Patriot. The Patriot having fewer kills is obvious since it hasn't seen much use except in Iraq and Afghanistan, neither of which had air forces that were capable of attacking US forces. The S-400 meanwhile has seen service in practically every post-soviet conflict, typically on both sides. The chances it's had to work, and therefore fail, are far more numerous than the Patriot.

  • @Militavia

    @Militavia

    6 ай бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/qJqfs5KoYqzFZpM.html

  • @matthewcataldo1106
    @matthewcataldo11066 ай бұрын

    The biggest difference is their respective branches. One understands that ground forces need close air support. The other thinks it can win wars with stealth fighters and bombers. If we didn’t have the Key West agreement and other restrictions, the Warthog would be an Army asset.

  • @Mortablunt

    @Mortablunt

    5 ай бұрын

    To really piss off the air supremacy crowd, let’s take a quick look at American war performances since the introduction of airpower. WW1: W WW2: W Korea: D Vietnam: L DS: W Afghanistan: L Iraq:L 3:1:3 Even if you pad it with smaller conflicts like the Granada and Nicaragua interventions, you still end up with failing to achieve victory about half the time.

  • @casematecardinal

    @casematecardinal

    4 ай бұрын

    Like the bronco before it. Gone too soon

  • @adamczechowski614
    @adamczechowski6146 ай бұрын

    Interesting vid. I did enjoy. More please.

  • @fatalfury66
    @fatalfury666 ай бұрын

    Love the format!!

  • @Ob1sdarkside
    @Ob1sdarkside6 ай бұрын

    These planes only work with air superiority, too vulnerable for the modern battlefield. They were designed for a different era

  • @ashscott6068

    @ashscott6068

    6 ай бұрын

    Well, comparing them to find out which is worse, is no different than comparing them to find out which is better. They're both kinda useless if you're not fighting unarmed tribesmen.

  • @Potato-pl5cr

    @Potato-pl5cr

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@ashscott6068not even close to being true, both are suitable aircraft. All it is is a pissing contest between 2 countries. Neither are going into battle while the airspace is seriously contested unless absolutely necessary, then they would have escorts

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn22236 ай бұрын

    1:15 - Chapter 1 - Introducing the combattants 2:55 - Mid roll ads 3:50 - Back to the video 8:50 - Chapter 2 - Demonstrated abilities 15:40 - Chapter 3 - Expert indicators 18:55 - Chapter 4 - The showdown PS: All of us are set up for more *Mega Match Ups*

  • @breakall25
    @breakall253 ай бұрын

    Great idea keep the match ups coming!

  • @angryguncat
    @angryguncat6 ай бұрын

    This was cool, i'd love to see more match ups!

  • @nicholassmith7984
    @nicholassmith79846 ай бұрын

    I'd be very interested to see a more direct comparison between the Typhoon, the Gripen, and the Rafale, perhaps also contrasted with the F-35 for added context.

  • @Nathan-vt1jz
    @Nathan-vt1jz6 ай бұрын

    In the A10 vs. SU25, the Apache helicopter wins! 😅 For close air support, drones and helicopters seem like better options. The A10 and SU25 are really vulnerable to AD, including manpads.

  • @shaider1982

    @shaider1982

    6 ай бұрын

    Helicopters are also vulnerable to MANPADs.

  • @Idahoguy10157

    @Idahoguy10157

    6 ай бұрын

    The Warthog, Frogfoot, and all helos are vulnerable to air defense systems. Depending on the environment and the enemies capabilities

  • @Shoelessjoe78

    @Shoelessjoe78

    6 ай бұрын

    So are choppers

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid35876 ай бұрын

    It was an informative and wonderful comparison narrative about A-10 warthog & SU-25 frogfoot..A-10 more advanced through detection and damage of enemy electronics.thank you for sharing

  • @tarekmalaeb8229
    @tarekmalaeb82296 ай бұрын

    Very informative, thanks

  • @angel102ify
    @angel102ify6 ай бұрын

    You forget one cheat code that the A-10 has. A friendly F-22.

  • @jaythomas3224

    @jaythomas3224

    6 ай бұрын

    the a10 will never be on the battlefield with a f22

  • @scottallberry6713

    @scottallberry6713

    6 ай бұрын

    They are already used together. Not a formation flight, but air superiority role. F22, f16, f15s fly top cover and have already gained control of the air

  • @EricMitton
    @EricMitton6 ай бұрын

    These matchups are super fun; please do more! That said, this particular matchup is like comparing bayonets. They both do a similar job and are both brutally effective in the right environment, but they’re both pretty much obsolete against a near-peer in 2023.

  • @piemanfx
    @piemanfx6 ай бұрын

    Note matchup!! But realistically anything you guys do is gold!!!

  • @benaguilar1787
    @benaguilar17876 ай бұрын

    17:41 The section about MANPADS is wrong, the A-10C has a 360 degree infrared launch warning receiver with automatic countermeasure dispensers, so it will detect MANPAD launches, deploy flares, and warn the pilot of the incoming missile’s presence and bearing.

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot6 ай бұрын

    I've seen the A-10 in action love the buzzing sound of that 30 mm cannon.

  • @DoomViper

    @DoomViper

    6 ай бұрын

    I love the sound it makes as it dives, unmistakable for any other aircraft.

  • @jeremyfoy797
    @jeremyfoy7976 ай бұрын

    Wow!!! Great job of comparing two fantastic aircraft. This should be considered for a new episode at least a few hundred times more.

  • @BOK-04
    @BOK-046 ай бұрын

    Matchups? Great idea, and yes many more!!!!!!

  • @HDzombiekiller12345
    @HDzombiekiller123456 ай бұрын

    Yes mega project match’s ups would be lit do the m1 vs t90

  • @Tenchigumi
    @Tenchigumi6 ай бұрын

    In DCS, the Frogfoot is comically outmatched by the A-10 in a dogfight. Even if the Frogfoot is quicker and more "maneuverable" on paper, it tends to stall out more on slow, tight turns (something that the A-10 can excel at), which means in BFM it'll easily get out-rated and shot down. Neither plane was meant to dogfight, but the A-10 is surprisingly more apt at it, simply because it can go so damn slow without stalling, something that can even catch true dogfighters off guard (never forget that an A-10 scored simulated kills on both an F-16 and F-22). Even if the Frogfoot is slightly faster, it's definitely not fast enough to pull away without taking a Fox-2 for its troubles (all the flares in the world won't save you if you're exposing your six).

  • @Zarrar2802

    @Zarrar2802

    6 ай бұрын

    Hint: East vs West

  • @brentbartley6838

    @brentbartley6838

    6 ай бұрын

    And the A-10 will have an easier time putting rounds on the Frogfoot since its gun points straight forward. Frogfoot gun mounted at a slight downward angle so it doesn't have to have as steep a dive to strafe ground targets but that means it has to pull way more lead (AoA thus bleeding speed) to get rounds on a turning A-10. And even if the A-10 is flying straight and level the SU-25 would have to nose up to point the gun.

  • @brentbartley6838

    @brentbartley6838

    6 ай бұрын

    In reality a dogfight would come down to pilot skill.

  • @jetcitykitty

    @jetcitykitty

    6 ай бұрын

    Im happy someone else mentioned DCS because I watch Growling Sidewinder on KZread and he does matchups like this all the time. I immediately thought of him when I saw the title of this video I actually thought it was one of his until I saw that it was one of Simon's LOL It does come down to pilot skill, often.

  • @usonumabeach300

    @usonumabeach300

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@Zarrar2802DCS is a Russian made game...

  • @byzmack1334
    @byzmack13346 ай бұрын

    A major advantage for the warthog you missed is visibility. In a dog fight between the two the poor rearward visibility in the frogfoot could prove disastrous.

  • @zwojack7285

    @zwojack7285

    6 ай бұрын

    What visibility in the A-10? The one where the pilot needs binoculars to identify the targets to shoot at?

  • @byzmack1334

    @byzmack1334

    6 ай бұрын

    The bubble canopy that allows them to se backwards unlike the frogfoot. In a dogfight losing sight on your opponent can be catastrophic.@@zwojack7285

  • @BigMexicanMan

    @BigMexicanMan

    6 ай бұрын

    @@zwojack7285it’s elevated pilot position and the design of the canopy grants the pilot way more °s of visibility than the SU-25 is capable of

  • @jackorta1613

    @jackorta1613

    6 ай бұрын

    Indeed its a conflict kf ideologies in the us they make pikots who can decide for them selves and fight using direct visibility while the russian way is to have the pilot be a controll point for a craft which gets orders from mission control and it mostly relies on radar on ground and onboard the plane. More visibility on the a 10 is balanced by more vulnerability and the less visibility on the rook is balanced by a safer pilot

  • @gunsnrosesforever100

    @gunsnrosesforever100

    6 ай бұрын

    5:25 he talks about the canopy and bathtub, he says it gives them almost 360° view in the warthog

  • @kuriea552
    @kuriea5522 ай бұрын

    This was a cool video type. Would be neat to see more of them

  • @stevetafoya6287
    @stevetafoya62875 ай бұрын

    I like this format! Let’s see more of it!

  • @USJTAC
    @USJTAC6 ай бұрын

    Shouldn’t even be a competition between the two aircraft.

  • @jacobv6903
    @jacobv69036 ай бұрын

    Keep these going. These types of videos align so closely with war thunder(who has been a sponsor before) that you could even add some gameplay of the vehicles covered. It's awesome playing some of these vehicles then coming to your channels to learn about them.

  • @youtubeaccount489
    @youtubeaccount4896 ай бұрын

    love this idea great video guys

  • @mitchellbailey7030
    @mitchellbailey70306 ай бұрын

    LOVE THE MATCH UP IDEA FOR EPISODES!!!!

  • @chrisgreener5599
    @chrisgreener55996 ай бұрын

    I like this concept! You could even expand it to cover hypothetical battles, like the Yamato vs the Bismarck, or comparison of the mission capabilities of the V-Bombers and Strategic Air Command.

  • @matthewfinkenbinder5846

    @matthewfinkenbinder5846

    6 ай бұрын

    I would generally agree with you I'd like to see a hypothetical battleship vs battleship breakdown, but Yamato vs Bismarck would be...lopsided. Bismarck was more advanced but Yamato could out range and out punch it. (8x15" vs 9x18.1" main guns respectively). Bismarck was designed as a commerce raider as much as a front line warship where Yamato was purpose built to be the core of a battle line. A more viable matchup would be something like Yamato vs Montana (Yamato vs Iowa has been done many times over) or Bismarck vs Roma. Or actually pitting two interwar ships that were built to fight each other like Nagato vs West Virginia (which itself might have actually happened as part of a line battle had the old US BBs been at Leyte rather than Surigao. I also love your second suggestion.

  • @pteronoid
    @pteronoid6 ай бұрын

    Correction: A-10 can carry up to 6 Mavericks, because only 2 pylons have the necessary connection ports and can carry a triple rack, but usually A-10 carries only 4 because the ones on the inner side would damage the wheels with the exhaust at launch.

  • @notsoseriouslen6374

    @notsoseriouslen6374

    4 ай бұрын

    sry to pick on you here but idk i just looked at it and thought "hey you can mount on a dually 2 tires up front as well" if someones arguing with u that they have an 8 wheeled truck and you only have 6...but u cant can you because it would rub while turning and prolly break a whole host of things....so yea i can hold 8 but only carry 6...this applies to what you said

  • @pteronoid

    @pteronoid

    4 ай бұрын

    @@notsoseriouslen6374 no hard feelings, but i just wanted to point out that the research was very bad. the first google search result is claiming that it can carry 10 Mavericks and this is just plain wrong. ask any A-10 pilot and/or engineer and they will confirm how many Mavericks can they fit and how many are usually carry. what i wrote in the comment is not my guess/opinion, this is what A-10 pilots and engineers confirmed on many occasions. the A-10 was designed to carry 6xAGM-65s on triple racks on 2 pylons, after real flight testing they found out that the missile on the inner rack, closest to the main gear, causes some burn damage to the wheel when launched, because the wheel is not fully retracted and protected by a landing gear door.

  • @wormyboot
    @wormyboot6 ай бұрын

    This is a wonderful start to a wonderful idea.

  • @Justin_Saves
    @Justin_Saves5 ай бұрын

    Great Idea! Awesome episode. P-51 vs Supermarine Spitfire🎉

  • @Iamthelolrus
    @Iamthelolrus6 ай бұрын

    Brrrrrrrt wins! Fatality!

  • @bigemugamer
    @bigemugamer6 ай бұрын

    Me thinks Simon neglected to mention that ONE of the Frogfoot's 2 engines has over a tonne of armour surrounding it so if both the engines were seriously bombarded with flak or gun fire the armoured engine would still operate and be enough to get the Frogfoot home. surrounding both engines with that same amount of armour would seriously compromise it's overall abilities. It's a serious attack jet but my childhood love of the A10 supersedes the Frogfoots strengths. Nice match up, looking forward to more like... sopwith camel vs folker triplane or the gloster meteor vs Me 262 or or... the mig 24 vs apache helicopters.

  • @tylerray1728
    @tylerray17286 ай бұрын

    Love this match-ups idea!

  • @dnkgil
    @dnkgil6 ай бұрын

    Yes please!!!! More match ups, loved this

  • @fountainvalley100
    @fountainvalley1006 ай бұрын

    A couple of points. A lot of parts on the A-10 are interchangeable between the left and right sides. A second missing piece of information is cost per flight hour and hours of maintenance per flight hour. One of the reasons the A-10 is often used is it’s lower cost of operation. As to it’s usefulness in the future in contested air that’s what the F-22 is for.

  • @TheVIdeosOnly
    @TheVIdeosOnly6 ай бұрын

    Everyone claiming Simon was unbiased about this clearly doesn’t know he’s made like 3 videos dogging the a-10 and calling it overrated. His opinion of it has never been good

  • @benrockefeller6334

    @benrockefeller6334

    6 ай бұрын

    If you're referring to his "A-10: Worse than you think" video, then you need to realize that it was from a specific perspective of objectivity that placed the practical realities of the A-10 against its public perception. That's still an objective perspective, just not one from a comprehensive perspective. Not to mention that the writer for the two videos isn't even the same. Evan was the writer for this one and George was the writer for the other one.

  • @jonnybgoode7742

    @jonnybgoode7742

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@benrockefeller6334 "from a specific perspective of objectivity" yeah nah... objectively the people who "dog" on the a10 generally get things so hilariously wrong it's not even funny. To consider it objective is... well ignorant.

  • @benrockefeller6334

    @benrockefeller6334

    6 ай бұрын

    @@jonnybgoode7742 Then tell us, what exactly did they get wrong in their videos? What you've said is so vague and broad that you basically said nothing.

  • @jonnybgoode7742

    @jonnybgoode7742

    6 ай бұрын

    @@benrockefeller6334 no I said they're wrong. Theres nothing vague about it. Anyone who knows better would understand how. These guys repeat the same misinformation.

  • @benrockefeller6334

    @benrockefeller6334

    6 ай бұрын

    @@jonnybgoode7742 That's not an argument, it's an appeal to authority. And you didn't even give an example of who would have the 'correct' information. Everything you've said is just vague statements that they are wrong, without citing anything about how they are wrong.

  • @Sidewhineder
    @Sidewhineder4 ай бұрын

    Love the comparison format! BRRRRRRTTT!

  • @DrBruceWayne423
    @DrBruceWayne4236 ай бұрын

    Hey Simon and the whole team at Meghan projects and all your other channels, I want to say please let’s see more megaproject Matchups and of course, thank you for all your Contant on all of your channels. Great job to ALL OF YOU

  • @mmarsh1972
    @mmarsh19726 ай бұрын

    They are not the same aircraft. The A-10 is a dedicated Tank killer the SU-25 is a CAS aircraft. One is designed to kill tanks, the other is flying artillery. So it really depends what the job is

  • @kempmt1
    @kempmt16 ай бұрын

    A former shipmate and I do believe that the Frogfoot is made similar to the A-9

  • @AcornElectron

    @AcornElectron

    6 ай бұрын

    But A-10 is one better?

  • @tintruder224

    @tintruder224

    6 ай бұрын

    Very similar. USSR must have only had spies at Northrop back then...

  • @rattledroar2426
    @rattledroar24266 ай бұрын

    I like the idea of comparison videos.

  • @douglasjones2570
    @douglasjones25705 ай бұрын

    More matchups. Yes, please!

  • @denvervandrey2883
    @denvervandrey28836 ай бұрын

    Ah, so in conclusion, the Warthog is a specialist build better for its designed role, but the Frogfoot is a better utility and all round build

  • @ripvanwinkle2002

    @ripvanwinkle2002

    5 ай бұрын

    so in conclusion the A-10 has tens of thousands of combat hours where it excels.. and the frogfoot..doesnt.. watchin Ukis take them down with 2nd gen stingers from 20 years ago isnt very impressive..

  • @abccomando9329
    @abccomando93296 ай бұрын

    i seen A-10 thats all i needed

  • @mildmanneredthinkingman9323
    @mildmanneredthinkingman93236 ай бұрын

    This fun! More please. Can you make: SU-57 vs. F-22, F-15 EX vs SU-35, Shenyang FC-31 vs F-35, F-16 (curr gen with have glass V), vs MiG-31

  • @jasonglover5989
    @jasonglover59896 ай бұрын

    Love the matchups

  • @jailbotmark1379
    @jailbotmark13796 ай бұрын

    The concept of a dedicated CAS platform is pretty useless now that we have multirole aircract with sufficient loiter time and payload capacity in the age of gen 4++

  • @scottallberry6713

    @scottallberry6713

    6 ай бұрын

    Multirole failed the last time we did it. The f4 phantom was also a multiservice, multirole aircraft and resulted in many deaths due to being to generalized to be good and specialized missions. F35s can be taken out by a .22 cal rifle if hit at low level in the right spot. High tech isn't survivable at low level, and seriously lack loiter time.

  • @whytebearconcepts
    @whytebearconcepts25 күн бұрын

    "It's not the plane, it's the pilot" ~ Capt. Pete "Maverick" Mitchell, Top Gun: Maverick. I have yet to see an A-10 pilot crash his aircraft immediately after take off, and Capt. Kim Campbell took a SAM to the tail and flew her A-10 home totally on manual controls.

  • @Shemp6101
    @Shemp61016 ай бұрын

    14:39 I thought Simon farted at first 🤣 Love the VS concept!

  • @ronald3148
    @ronald31486 ай бұрын

    As intended the A-10was a piece off shit. the 30 mm could not penetate al bag off crisp's ( the back off an T 34 red) . luckly the US builds great missles.

  • @wedgie502

    @wedgie502

    6 ай бұрын

    must be a Russian fanboy

  • @C.Chandler_May
    @C.Chandler_May6 ай бұрын

    A-10 all the way.

  • @Shoelessjoe78

    @Shoelessjoe78

    6 ай бұрын

    I'll Brrrrrrt to to that.

  • @thefrenchbaguette919

    @thefrenchbaguette919

    6 ай бұрын

    In all honesty they are both equal none is really better fine the a-10 has the 30mm but know gun are almost never used it's missile that are the name of the game and both can carry a lot of missile in addition both aircraft are quite vulnerable in contested airspace the a-10 even more due it's poor maneuverability

  • @kriscerosaurus
    @kriscerosaurus6 ай бұрын

    I was not expecting the 🎉confetti🎉 at the end. lol Keep on keepin' on, Luis.

  • @MrJoncovert
    @MrJoncovert6 ай бұрын

    To whom it may concern at FactBoy HQ, I definitely enjoyed this format! The side by side style presentation is a nice chance to learn a bit about opposing systems. Having premium, I can’t speak for the add placement and of quantity but the one critique I can give is make them longer. I’ve watched your videos about the A-10 before so I know the information should be easily accessible to whoever writes the script. That being said thank you FactBoy. I have you in my ear spouting facts and going off on random tangents pretty much all day every day at work.

  • @pawedziedzic4529
    @pawedziedzic45296 ай бұрын

    Good job, veryy interesting conclusion.

  • @LordDustinDeWynd
    @LordDustinDeWynd6 ай бұрын

    Howdy from Temple, Texas, USA! Match-ups are a great idea!

  • @MeanStreakGaming
    @MeanStreakGaming6 ай бұрын

    Awesome idea. F-22 Raptor vs SU-57 Felon. F-16 Viper vs MiG-29 Fulcrum, F/A-18 Hornet vs SU-27 Flanker. Many, many choices...

  • @mrdddeeezzzweldor5039
    @mrdddeeezzzweldor50396 ай бұрын

    Excellent segment. With all of the hype (and love) over the Warthog and anxiety over the dismissal of it from the US war machine's arsenal, there isn't much said about its (if any) red counterpart. Thanks again for the megateam and Megaprojects to provide such a complete (and controversial) synopsis pitting capabilities of each platform against each other. I do still love the Warthog, having been somewhat associated with it since the mid 70's (USAF) when we kind of grew up together...

  • @Mrsection8eight
    @Mrsection8eight6 ай бұрын

    Love the show... great thinking.... there has to be 2 tanks over the war years to compare

  • @batboy-xf3ki
    @batboy-xf3ki6 ай бұрын

    Absolutely 💯 love it!

  • @ZJK94
    @ZJK946 ай бұрын

    More of this type of videos would be awesome

  • @thomascomeau2961
    @thomascomeau29616 ай бұрын

    Back in 2003 when I was in Kuwait I seen an A-10 that was based there come back really messed up. It blew my mind as it came back with half the starboard wing missing, part of the port wing gone, and an engine out. As long as the US has air superiority this is an amazing asset to have supporting you. We need a redesign and consider removing the big auto cannon as it can't damage most modern armor

  • @joshuasinger8385
    @joshuasinger83856 ай бұрын

    Hopefully there will be more match up videos

  • @turtleboy4111
    @turtleboy41116 ай бұрын

    I like the idea. I'd like to see a match ups between Kenworth trucks vs Freightliner trucks

  • @basguden5689
    @basguden56894 ай бұрын

    Love the matchup idea! Btw what watch do you have?

  • @basguden5689

    @basguden5689

    4 ай бұрын

    The watch in the intro😅

  • @ironman6527
    @ironman65276 ай бұрын

    21:50 you state there are no real world examples of an A-10 being hit but there are. U.S. Air Force Maj. Gen. Paul T. "PJ" Johnson was hit with an anti aircraft missile while searching for a downed F-14. Then there is Captain Kim Campbell whose A-10 was also hit by one . Both managed to fly back to base.