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@Zeyede_Seyum

Жыл бұрын

Time stamps?

@abigwewe7733

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@brunogalvez9644

Жыл бұрын

it would be interesting a video of understanding the muslim civilization

@nathanoher4865

Жыл бұрын

The first 1,000 months to people the use will get a 1 Skillshare free trial of link

@baldacchinonicholas7962

Жыл бұрын

Great video, don't forget to also include "African civilisation" to the civilisation videos, the islamic world next, can't wait to see both of them 😀

Me: "How complicated is society?" Whatifalthist: "Yes"

@TheTimurdempire

Жыл бұрын

Underrated

@kingmisssile9730

Жыл бұрын

Nah it feels more simple after watching

@jacket2383

Жыл бұрын

Watch it again

@Brosowski

Жыл бұрын

@@jacket2383 I'll have to rematch it 2-4 times to fully grasp it.

@jacket2383

Жыл бұрын

@@Brosowski just 2 times is enough. the information will enter your cranium

The problem is that anxiety is partially self-fulfilling. "that's not gonna happen to us, right?" is a fantastic way to make anxiety even stronger. We are literally anxious about our own anxiety.

@hufficag

Жыл бұрын

unless your pride is stronger

@pyropulseIXXI

Жыл бұрын

Who is 'we?' I've never felt anxious in my life, cuz I'm not an inferior fuck

@sirzorg5728

Жыл бұрын

@@pyropulseIXXI You sound like you are lying. The only people who feel the need to constantly remind others of their own superiority are people who are deeply anxious that they aren't up to scratch.

@fasted8468

Жыл бұрын

We are a culture of disgust though. The only thing everyone agrees about is how disgusting nazis are

@fayhay8011

Жыл бұрын

@@sirzorg5728 For me,sounds like he is being optimistic

In my opinion, anxiety is a genuinely dangerous force. A lot of people cope with anxiety by setting low expectations (doomerism), checking out (apathy/fatalism), hiding away (obsession/addiction), or fight back (revolution). And what really sucks about anxiety is that you know it ain’t good for you and that there’s no reliable solution, which just makes you even more anxious. We gotta let the little stuff go.

@steviegilliam5685

Жыл бұрын

Often what I think is a solid "cure" for anxiety is simply embracing the unknown

@sovietunion7643

Жыл бұрын

this makes me realize that my weird fantasies in my head i use to cope are actually more healthy then dealing with those anxieties in an unhealthy way. weird softy fantasies in my head while going to church to find guidance and moderation is better the how most are doing. and here i thought i was doing a bad thing by getting stuck in my head fantasies but in reality i've been slowly but surely healing and reforming myself and didn't fall into doomerism and found a weird sort of balance accepting my weirder side while still acknowledging that i can still better myself? idk what im saying anymore. point is i've made progress on myseld despite the cards being stacked against me. perhaps it was the family bullshit that forced me to change for the better rather than wallow.

@diamonddemon7612

Жыл бұрын

I do apathy

@meriabreadsticks

Жыл бұрын

I do a tinge of all. Doomerism at the start, apathy when its done, ignorance after that, and revolution when I recieve a revelation. But I learned to just laugh at it. Even in the most serious of cases, I took it lightly in my heart, and somehow turned it into a motivation.

@sergiowinter5383

Жыл бұрын

It's God will, boom anxiety solved

"fear is a method of avoiding death by not getting killed" truly inspiring stuff

@phatpat63

Жыл бұрын

People die if they are killed.

@matthewfarrell6822

Жыл бұрын

@@phatpat63 so being killed would not be good I assume

@j.r.8176

Жыл бұрын

​@@matthewfarrell6822 Not good if you don't want to die

@bickyboo7789

11 ай бұрын

​@@matthewfarrell6822 I like to think so.

@venmis137

10 ай бұрын

@@phatpat63 Quote of the century

6:00 Fear 11:03 Shame 18:30 Pride 23:58 Disgust 29:52 Guilt 35:10 Envy 41:28 Anxiety

@dontcomply3976

Жыл бұрын

You will enjoy this video, or else Society will not approve, if you don't enjoy this video Yeah, I enjoyed this video, so what? Ugh, I can't believe you didn't enjoy this video I really ought to enjoy this video It's not fair you enjoyed this video and I didn't What will people think, if I don't enjoy this video?

@HeavyLefty

Жыл бұрын

@@dontcomply3976 wtf?

@dontcomply3976

Жыл бұрын

@@HeavyLefty LOL My thoughts exactly, when I was writing it

@mosterchife6045

Жыл бұрын

@@dontcomply3976 OHHHHHH I see what you did there.

@mosterchife6045

Жыл бұрын

@@HeavyLefty Each sentence corresponded to different emotions he talked about in the video

Fear -> Courage and Heroism Shame -> Chastity and Honour Pride -> Humility and Englightenment Disgust -> Investigation and Elimination Guilt -> Confession and Absolution Envy -> Learning and Catharsis There is a solution to each and every one of these problems, and you'll find examples of this timeless nobility in each of our greatest gods, heroes, and leaders.

@caim3465

Жыл бұрын

And anxiety?

@MonsieurWorldwide

Жыл бұрын

@@caim3465 Missed that! Anxiety is also useful, it's perfect for creating watch dogs. Anxiety -> Vigilance and Discovery

@RealWorldGames

5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately fear is often disguised as guilt . Because people are afraid of not being accepted they reshape their ideals ( to ones they truly don't believe) and then feel guilt because they act in a way they do believe which is inconsistent with what they've adapted to. The solution here is to hold true to what you truly believe and not feel guilty.

@JohnDoe-vi1im

5 ай бұрын

What's the source of these connections?

@freneticness6927

5 ай бұрын

It seems that shame based societies are anti individualistic. They have huge group think. Alot of tall poppy syndrome. Very ancestor based. Very little innovation. Guilt based societies say that individuals are responsible for their own actions. It grants much more freedom to the individual and encourages creativity and critical thinking. They are also more compassionate. Thats why they try to spread out and teach more than others. Individuals are able to do what they want and go where they want to spread their culture.

I am Senegalese, in west Africa and the society I live in is an extremely shame driven one. I recognize a lot of senegalese culture in your description from the family centric values, the concept of “face”, arranged mariages and the like. But I don’t know where it got fucked up in my head cause I absolutely and strongly don’t identify with those values. I have always been individualistic and have a no fucks given mindset and it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Especially my family cause I got thrown out my house because I got caught smoking weed. Right now I live in my uncles house with 8 others men and I work as a docker, extremely gruesome and physically demanding job but these past three months have been the most peaceful time of my life since high school, and I’m only 21. Today I have to go back to my mom’s house and I just don’t want to. I only realized now that I hate that environment so much. I love my family but we are just fundamentally incompatible. The things I do or want to do seems crazy to them, especially coupled with the high ambition I have; their values to me seems outdated and overly restrictive. For example to my mom ambition means working a 9-5, getting married to some cousin at 26 and having a bunch of kids living paycheck to paycheck until your kids are old enough to support you through your retirement. I see this as an absolute failure at worst and a mediocre life at best. I have no qualms working a 9-5(I already work as a docker, it can’t possibly get worse😂) but I only see it as a stepping stone to further my ambitions which implies being frugal and reinvest the money I earn but to them that’s being a bad person because I don’t share the money I earn with them and so on and so on… Seriously, if I go back I’ll probably adapt again but I’m absolutely gonna hate it. And the more we live together the more those divides will show themselves and further strain our relationships. I’m lost. Sorry for the bad English tho it’s my third language.

@NewSherrif

Жыл бұрын

Pulaar?

@mrz4252

Жыл бұрын

I wish you well in forging the best possible life. You don't have to be bound by old ways.

@ktoth29

Жыл бұрын

Your english isn't bad. The paragraph was a bit long too read but I didn't have difficulty understanding you.

@juniorjames7076

Жыл бұрын

Wolof?

@Nicholas_Bonato

Жыл бұрын

Your English is excellent, best of luck with your ambitions!

Pride is the reason why indo europian languages are the most common in the World. The people who spoke these languages originally became fearless and prideful without end so they became fearless warriors would sought glory above all else.

The mainstream media is completely null and void with channels like Whatifalthist, CaspianReport and Mr. Mitchell History doing their job way better

@nicholascopernicus4384

Жыл бұрын

The mainstream media's directive is influencing minds, not educating them. They deny it less and less by the day. We live in an era where self-education is becoming increasingly necessary

@aidanwow1593

Жыл бұрын

Which is why they are pumping money into trying to kill KZread by trying to drive advertisers off of the internet.

@music79075

Жыл бұрын

It should be Humans are Rationalizers

@lilpwnige

Жыл бұрын

You can't leave SirSwag out of that list.

@simpli_histori

Жыл бұрын

If the media did as good a job as whatifalthist and others, then everyone would actually understand what is going on in the world and that would have so many benefits for our society. The problem is that these crappy ‘news’ channels already control the media, and it is impossible to replace them without because of the billions of dollars behind the people that own the news

The anxiety portion of this video really helped me understand just how realistic The book series called Uglies really is when it comes to how Scott Westerfield wrote a future anxiety/envy driven society. I mean he quite Literally wrote it to where the main thing everyone in the society wants is to be given a surgery that makes all people after turning 16 beautiful, healthy, and extends youth. But they are also unwittingly submitting to alterations to their brains And ultimately abandoning any sense of individuality in favor of a supposed perfected collective that is incredibly docile and stable.

@1mol831

Жыл бұрын

I wonder who the American Caesar would be. Doesn’t sound like the worse thing. At least there’s gonna be food if you join the army.

@nathanseper8738

Жыл бұрын

Wow, I never thought of it that way.

@doctorthrax2076

Жыл бұрын

South Korea is huge into cosmetic surgery. Girls get surgeries as gifts for their 16th and 18th birthdays.

@yuvalgabay1023

Жыл бұрын

@@doctorthrax2076 well they are the plastic surgery capital ofnthe world.

@DarthHoosier3038

Жыл бұрын

It honestly reminds me of Brave New World, a book we read in 10th grade about a dystopian future where everyone was permanently happy.

My driving emotions are fear, Wrath, and Greed. "Attractive women are just a positive force in the world, and they make life better without any real cost." Incredibly based. True Facts.

@caim3465

Жыл бұрын

I love fear, spirits and stuff like that.

@uncreatedlogos

Жыл бұрын

Wrath is just pride. And greed is self-perservation. The driver of all those emotions.

@GustafUNL

Жыл бұрын

@@uncreatedlogos I disagree. Neither my Greed nor my Wrath take the typically depicted forms.

The bit about anxiety and not wanting to dress up reminds me of the gentleminioms trend of this summer, where teenage boys including myself all went to see the minions movie in suits. It was genuinely so freeing to take pride in myself and see my friends (who usually wear solid hoodies and trendy brands) being confident and happy.

As someone who vehemently disagrees with most of your points, I love your KZread channel. You present your opinions in a way that (usually) aren't intended to incite anger but rather genuine debate, you draw from a wealth of evidence, and you make calls to action that focus more on lifting each other up than pulling each other down. You make one of the best cases for centre-right politics I've seen, and I come to your videos because you force me to actually justify my opinions and go looking for evidence to back up why I think you're wrong. Leftists who dismiss you as a bigot are doing themselves a disservice. We're eating ourselves alive because we refuse to listen to people like you.

@nannettefreeman7331

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't possibly agree more! With you, not Rudyard. I respect his opinion, find his conclusions valid, but am diametrically opposed to his ideology. He's got a couple of blind spots in his knowledge base, too, but who doesn't? All in all, I love his content. It makes me think, where others do the opposite. And it challenges a lot of what I hold to be true. I love how organized his thoughts are. He must have slain all who dared on the debate team! We would all benefit from having a little Rudyard in our lives. ✌🏼

@calumfoster-bayliss7122

Жыл бұрын

Yooo samezies

@user-vt2dw1if1v

Жыл бұрын

@@nannettefreeman7331 hey you speak of his blind spots it would be interesting to know where they are.So can you tell me them

@skepticalextraterrestrial2971

Жыл бұрын

I have a hard time with his claim that communism killed more than every other religion and ideology combined, even while showing a statistic that says otherwise. And that statistic itself is woefully unaware of the horrors of things like colonialism. This shows a rather extreme bias which is not surprising but is notable. Pride IS the deadliest sin, and not just figuratively or spiritually. Even so, I can appreciate the video as it has many interesting ideas. But those ideas need to be taken with a grain of salt.

@starmaker75

Жыл бұрын

There was some videos I did said “bullshit” (like the USA civil war) however he does give “food for thought” video and one of the reasonable right wing channel I follow.

Fun fact: Most of the harsh laws of Draco were repelled by Solon when he was reforming the Athenian society.

@nathanseper8738

Жыл бұрын

Did Solon operate under a guilt-based model?

@abdirahmanbadal781

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanseper8738 I dnt know .He was probably operating under shame system.

@jankutac9753

Жыл бұрын

Well of course. When you overthrow a government, you do the exact opposite for some time, until everybody calms down. French revolution? Men shouldn't wear wigs, gloves and breeches anymore. For no obvious reason, just to be the opposite of the previous fashion

@ndescruzur4378

Жыл бұрын

@@nathanseper8738 Well he basically divided population based on how rich you were, which was measured in how many food you produced in the field or something like that, which you demonstrated with taxes. This affected how much weight your opinion had in the local assemble and politics in general, like in how many things you could vote. Also which type of public works you could had. The thing is you could "rank up" your position in this society if you worked your ass off and produced more. This was not possible in the typical greek system were what mattered was "who was your father" (so I guess a clan like the shame based societies) and your social position was pretty much decided when you were born. This was to fight inequality. Now obviously the powerful members of wealthy families were still wealthy under solon system so it pretty much stayed the same but still it's interesting. Other things he did was abolish poor people's debt, much like caesar iirc. And prohibited selling a woman or a child as a slave.

@grafvonscyth2928

Жыл бұрын

Looks to me like you're watching a society abandon it's fear based system in real time.

I've always told my coworkers that if you want to understand a culture or a country, you need to understand their religion, at least at a general level. It also helps to understand their geography but that is a different story. I've had friends in the West who talked about the East being 'conservative' and they thought they understood the country and I'd always say "sure...from a Western perspective....but you have to understand it from an Eastern perspective." If you want to understand the East, you need to understand Eastern religions like Confucianism and Buddhism because these are rooted in the culture and maybe even in the language. The same with understanding the veneration of elders and 'superiors' which you find in the East but not so much in the West. People bow to each other in the East and they do so to a degree depending on the Station of the person they are bowing to. Deeper elders and to your superiors. This is totally in contrast to the West, which is built upon individualism and Christianity...and as a further extreme in America, "rebellion." So the cultures can be oil and water in some cases _unless you understand the underpinnings of how they came to be and what they are based upon_ . So 'conservatism' in the East is not about Western ideals of conservatism. It's more about a faithfulness to to their culture. And vice versa. The emotions that push civilization are ultimately rooted in their religions.

I think to an extent, ancient South India was a pride based culture as well. We have this concept of Veeraswargam--lit. Heroes' heaven (kind of like Valhala where it is a heaven for people who died in battle or commited brave acts) and there's even a popular saying in Telugu which goes something like విజయమో వీరస్వర్గమో which means "will it be death or victory?" and this historically fits with the culture of the pastoral communities that once inhabited southern India.

@satida

3 ай бұрын

Entire Hindu society is a pride based society along with shame. Have you read Mahabharata, Ramayana, the folklore and stories of Rajputs, Marathas and Cholas were all about chivalry and pride. Dying in war was regarded glorious.

@kidfred_1244

3 ай бұрын

@@satida I can't speak for the rest of India or Hinduism, only the part where I reside

So basically Envy and Anxiety are suicidal for a society Disgust and shame are very powerful at stabilizing however can be incredibly atrocious, each in their own way Guilt leads to growth and development as the most rational make arguements for what to be guilty for and they also allow for individualism leading to immense economic expansion, while the rational aspect leads to technological advancement. (Although it wasn't mentioned in the video the technological advancement allows for new economic opportunities while growth in wealth increases investment into new technologies)

@louisglatt1038

Жыл бұрын

depends on what envy means and how it is portrayed. Criticising that the world is unjust concerning income inequality which is mostly based pretty much on 100+ development and the affect of the genetical lottery is not the same as blaming those who "won" in it and thinking life is just unfair

@darthutah6649

Жыл бұрын

you forgot fear and pride

@etho7351

Жыл бұрын

@@darthutah6649 I am still trying to come to terms with those as there is a lot of nuance. Fear based societies are essentially the default so don't really necessarily have rules more guidelines it seems as far as how the society will turn out. On the otherhand pride also seems to have two subtypes of dignity and pride. I didn't want to generalize them as both seem more complex than my current understanding. However I did notice it seems fear based society's are destined to evolve into another type of society or be wiped out which is interesting as they are also in a way the default as fear is the most powerful emotional motivator for hunter gathers so all society's likely started out fear based and became what they are now gradually.

@htth3152

Жыл бұрын

@@etho7351 I don't think pride has subtypes, rather it can be influenced and directed by other emotions. I got the impression that it stems more from survival, so values strength, courage, competence, etc. on their own. It doesn't seem to inherently involve moral standards or goals beyond survival and dominance. I think it's guilt (in case of the West) that adds them to the equation. It puts something above those pride-based values and subordinates them to that, so that men strive to be strong not for their own (or their group's) will to power, but to protect others, serve God, or something else that's moral. "Bad pride" therefore may be just "pure" pride, which is "Nietzschian and barbaric" strength for strength's sake, while "good pride/dignity", is pride directed by guilt - or strength for the sake of something higher. These are my thoughts.

@etho7351

Жыл бұрын

@@htth3152 I was considering that pride may be more of a modifier in addition to another emotion running the society rather than having subtypes as well. What steered me away from this was the fact that Nazis still had a partially guilt based society due to propaganda influencing the actions of individuals but had a totally different potrayal of pride than the rest of the west. Furthermore Russia which is shame based had a similar form of pride to the west which is guilt based which lead me to believe there arw simply two variants of expression for that emotion, dignity/honor and pride as in the sinful variant, that are independent of other emotions running the society

35:00 "for the west who want to fulfill a divine plan, without a god to forgive it, the weight of holding it up becomes unbearable." That was good

@admiralsturgeon

Жыл бұрын

f you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of his strength, and the greater his effort the heavier the world bore down upon his shoulders - What would you tell him?" I…don't know. What…could he do? What would you tell him?" To shrug.

@johnnykilonzo2103

Жыл бұрын

It's sad when feminist LGBT BLM fight for equality yet forget the doctrine that every human has value and is equal to the eyes of God since we are all made in His image. Like the Christian teachings is the reason why they are given a chance yet they disregard God and His word.

@JUANxxTNAFAN

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnykilonzo2103 what!? That’s not true at all. Christians used the Bible to justify slavery and colonization and Christians also hate gay people, see us as abominations. And you wonder why we fought against that

@RealWorldGames

5 ай бұрын

@@johnnykilonzo2103 those groups do not fight for equality. Do not delude yourself.

@ManicMercurianAstrology

4 ай бұрын

Whoa

Just a minor correction: In String Theory, the particles themselves are strings, not the forces between particles.

@tjr7424

Жыл бұрын

I noticed a few technical things that I disagreed with. I was thinking the same thing about string theory of particles being strings. What that means, I'm not sure but, that's the way I remember it. Like Feynman said, "If you can't explain it to a child, ..."

@alexjohns4354

11 ай бұрын

No hrs right. The strings make up the particles and what connects them. Strings make up the same energy at different frequencies and vibrations. Every thing is the sames

@user-tp8ut7cs6j

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, that little excerpt about String Theory was one of the worst definitions of string theory that I've ever encountered. It's yet another example here of a mystified, oversimplified interpretation of a very complex idea.

It seems that no matter what emotion drives a civilization, atrocities are committed anyway. Violence is a common theme with all of them.

Almost every philosphy book I read starts with the axiom that humans are rational and then build off of that, and I'm like "Well, they've already failed."

@ez6888

Жыл бұрын

You haven’t read much philosophy, if any at all.

@MoralGovernment

Жыл бұрын

@@ez6888 How about you list some philosophers that don't say that humans are rational and I'll tell you if I've read them? Or would you rather just see my goodreads profile?

@vontai4553

Жыл бұрын

@@MoralGovernment we are rational until we’re not lol

@rico14

Жыл бұрын

@@MoralGovernment David Hume actually talked about how emotional humans are especially with respect to morality. Whereas most philosophers were debating utilitarianism vs deontology at the time.

@scholaroftheworldalternatehist

Жыл бұрын

Philosophy is not science it doesn't need to be logical. It is just a subjective way to view the world

I'm only 52 seconds in and I'm already thinking of Voltaire. "If you can have the people believe absurdities, you can have them commit atrocities".

@lucaslevinsky8802

Жыл бұрын

Communism and Nazism fit very well this quote

@mikefabbi5127

Жыл бұрын

@@lucaslevinsky8802 don't forget witch burning lol.

@jonathandewberry289

4 ай бұрын

@@mikefabbi5127 You could forget witch-burning since it's very aberrant behavior in the Western world and appears as strange blips on the historical timelines, in very isolated places and for short periods of time spots. It's even rarer than rare when you see it's almost never the sole or main accusation but mostly an 'added charge' of 'Sorcery' of some sort. In addition to poisoning farm animals, buggery, malicious spread of disesase and usually 20 other very much material world charges. There are good reasons to see why some men (mostly men) but women too, some where executed by these isolated rural communities. however, anyway, either way, you really could forget about these since they are bizarre aberrations in the big picture of society.

Traditionally, the inuits were also a fear-based group. There's an anecdote from the 19th century of Christian missionaries asking an inuit elder about what they believe; the answer was that they didn't believe, they merely feared.

I have considered your presentation worth while for all my friends on Facebook, since you cover well points that we were discussing. So a big thanks to you, and look forward to new presentations from you.

Whatifaltist ranking every society in every video: 1. English speakers 2. Continental Europe 3. Nonwestern cultures 4. Communism

@Jaco059

Жыл бұрын

Pretty accurate ehh

@tj-co9go

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he is heavily biased

@WhatifAltHist

Жыл бұрын

Accurate. That is how history played out though so I’m just repeating back what reality tells me

@M33f3r

Жыл бұрын

Communism has the worst track record. Better dead than that.

@bitcoinzoomer9994

Жыл бұрын

That's called reality dude

It really sucks to live an anxiety based culture. Especially when the person who was meant to save us from it ended up being part of the problem and also a terrible person in general.

@cathalobrien5691

Жыл бұрын

Who is that

@dontcomply3976

Жыл бұрын

@@cathalobrien5691 Not sure globally, but here in New Zealand, it was definitely the former prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, who created a new anxiety based tyranny.

@rowdyzack5914

Жыл бұрын

@@cathalobrien5691 donald

@xapaga1

Жыл бұрын

Could you possibly name the country that sucks so much?

@joaopk6263

Жыл бұрын

why the hell is Sao Paulo not anxiety based, but parts of rural (European) Russia are?

If you think about the etimology of the word emotion, in italian "emozione" in latin this words means movement, Basically what we get wrong right now is that we think of emotions like a state but actually is the thing that drives us forward

You make vids that keeps on giving. By that I mean you pack so much info into each vid, you have to watch it more than just once. Because every time you watch it you absorb a little more info. You make vids that just keeps on giving, which is a great thing and I thank you for that.

This channel is getting more and more esoteric and I'm completely here for it

“That’s not gonna happen to us, right?” I remember a statement from one of your videos saying something along the lines of the us being on a trajectory for eventually turning out like Rome. And putting an authoritarian figure in power. At the time I didn’t quite see where you were getting that from, but your last segment on anxiety finally made it clear… damn.

@liarwithagun

Жыл бұрын

It reminds me of Trump (and a lot of other historical figures, but Trump most recently in the US). He basically came along and said "I'm a big successful powerful man. Things are bad now, but follow me and everything will get better and we'll win." And other sorts of vague things along those lines with no real concrete plans or principles and a lot of people just ate it up because it was what they wanted to hear.

@riolufan2249

Жыл бұрын

Here comes Kanye :)

@hebercluff1665

Жыл бұрын

@@riolufan2249 This may sound a little dumb, but who is Kanye West? I hear his name in memes and comments, but I don't know who it is.

@Web720

Жыл бұрын

@@liarwithagun He sorta had a plan, remember he was thinking fo running for president for a long time, since the 80s I think. He even ran as an independent in the 2000 election.

@dracosnifu4594

Жыл бұрын

@@hebercluff1665 Some loser who says controversial stuff to get attention. I think he was a rapper or something before.

As usual Rudyard, your video made me think about society in a way I'd never thought about before. I don't always agree with your point of view and the conclusions you draw, but I always appreciate the way you explain things and aren't afraid to express ideas that are pretty much unheard of in modern Western countries. Seriously appreciate your work bro. Great video and hope you're well.

My Dad always pointed out successful people as role models when I was growing up, he was the hardest worker most ambitious person I ever knew. But never envious. "I wish I had what that person has and they had better" is a slogan that stuck with me. But I also knew that hard work and innovation were the only way to get it.

28:53 The problem is that in some cultures, Disgust is directed at the wrong thing. It's usually based on physical appearances. Rather than something more realistic. Like the presence of Antisocial/Criminal personality traits. So, it just creates this endless loop of Tragedy and Unjustified Blame.

@goggleman7211

Жыл бұрын

🤯 that's good. Imagine if instead of having hybristophiles and Dahmer true crime series we actually reviled criminals and people with proto-criminal tendencies.

@clickbanghum2488

Жыл бұрын

All humans have an instinctive disgust at psychopathic behavior to the point we conjure up dimensions where those sorts of humans will suffer after their demise.

@CombineWatermelon

Жыл бұрын

we'd all be better off if disgust was more effectively directed at homosexuals in the west

@granda3649

Жыл бұрын

The outward appearance reflects the inward.

@green2498

Жыл бұрын

physical appearance predicts antisocial/criminal personality traits (and basically all others)

I moved to the Pheonix Metro Valley from a small town in Northern California. And in 2 years i almost had a mental break down and had to move back. Then i preceded to move back and forth in ever expanding periods of time. It was a horrific culture shock. To go from a place where people care about their direct effect on their environment and community to a huge Metropolitan area where peoples main motivation(even evangelical Christians) is to "get one over" on the next man women or child. It was horrible. But i have acclimated. I still hate it here.

@bevbevan6189

Жыл бұрын

Don't acclimate. Find a place where you fit in and can still make a living.

@ScotterationRetard

Жыл бұрын

Californians need to stay in their playpen and not harm the rest of us, I sincerely hope you go back to be among your fruitloop people.

@thefutureisnowoldman7653

Жыл бұрын

That because Arizona is a hateful place.

@juniorjames7076

Жыл бұрын

My father, to marry my mother, emigrated from a sleepy, Caribbean fishing village to Brooklyn, NYC in 1968. My father never, ever acclimated to life in the United States (my mother thrived!). I used to resent him for it. Now I deeply understand why.

@juniorjames7076

Жыл бұрын

I've had the opposite experience. I grew up in NYC, and when I got accepted into a small college in rural Maine, for the first few months it was culture shock adjusting to the slow pace, quiet nature, trees, people expecting you to politely chat for a minute before transacting business. I really miss Maine/Vermont/New Hampshire and if I had a chance to return and work remotely from there I was jump at it. Alas, I haven't found that opportunity yet.

I live in a guilt based culture, there are certain things I would never do, not because my nation, friends, family or God, not because I don't care about these, but because certain things i would never do because *myself*

Every Whatifalthist video can be summed up by "So I read this book and..."

I’d love to see you make a full length video on each of these moral pillars

@pinkmann8399

Жыл бұрын

he's already made some on multiple, like disgust and envy

@josiahhodges1893

Жыл бұрын

@deadbloxxepic Ik that’s why I want to see a full length video on each of them

@torpenhigalak5909

Жыл бұрын

@@josiahhodges1893 pretty short sighted if you ask me especially on pride based society when it should be considered vanity afterall the historic human revision for their own selfish sake.

This helped me figure something out. The parts of the country that supports Trump are the remaining pride driven areas, and the areas that hate him with the passion of 1,000 white hot suns are the anxiety driven ones.

@supremelorddaddyemperorpre6365

Жыл бұрын

I agree with this statement

@basedchango2172

Жыл бұрын

@@supremelorddaddyemperorpre6365 W username ☠️

@angeldroidcs4962

Жыл бұрын

@@basedchango2172 LMFAOOOOO

@Crowboneboy

Жыл бұрын

Triple combo of brilliance in this thread lol

@louisglatt1038

Жыл бұрын

not really true. Rather those "let behind" or who fear change. So some sort of anxiety too. And also driven by some sort of disgust, as they are against "the elites" (thus voting for someone who falls, according to his wealth, pretty much in that category)

My great uncle was in a Japanese prison camp - one of the few to come home. Brutal.

Holy shit man your videos are deep. I've been already trying to contemplate the family structure video for weeks and you have already made this? Great job man keep it up

The section about Gen Z made me notice how, as a Gen Z-er, I've been actively doing the opposite from most of my generation, especially through several really strict self-imposed bans on popular practices such as alcohol and tattoos. If I had to come up with a psychological explanation, I'd say it's a combination of feelings of inadequacy growing up around higher social classes at school as a scholarship recipient, of a family culture from a very poor rural background that has persevered through its astronomical social ascension since my grandparents' generation migrated into urban areas, and of how disgusting the popularity of unfaithfulness and erasing history in modern youth culture feels when your family has been tightly-knit, vice-free, peaceful and monogamous for at least three generations.

@Alberecht

Жыл бұрын

Interesting

@torpenhigalak5909

Жыл бұрын

Not to be contemptuous but what you listed is nothing short of conundrum driven by social pressure to instill those values, regardless of what you call "pure" or "based" is nothing but a pseudo claim of collective crab mentality of tribalism. Generation today have hard time because of this harsh pressure instilled by the elder due to lean of gerontocratic primacy showing the suffocation of youth in expression, we are seeing future molded for individuality not collectivity as it was once before 20th, and it's may be stiff with problems and that's good for addressing those in need of answering.

@travisspicer5514

Жыл бұрын

@@torpenhigalak5909 Its collectivism masked by individuality. Watch some of the videos from people who were in the left who have left the left(god that sounds weird, sorry, idk how to say it better) or have a conversation with someone still in the group and it is amazing how much you have to conform to fit in. Peer pressure is on the rise among teens because you have to be "part of the group". It is not a discussion about different ideals and appreciation of their expression. Also, elders have always been more conservative on average and I didn't see the shift from conservative to crazy conservative causing crazy left. I saw left going crazy left causing crazy conservatism. And considering what children are expressing I would say that they are not being suppressed well by the gerontocracy. Also the west has always been more individualistic then other countries which exhibited collectivists behaviors. and what individuality is being molded that wasn't already there. I have been telling people to f off for years. I didn't need a movement to do that. Just some balls.

@j.r.8176

Жыл бұрын

Live like a monk.

@Turtletanks

9 ай бұрын

Gen Z (I am one) is a generation that is prime victim to a societal trend, or campaign, of nonstop propaganda promulgated by the internet. The sum total of all of the decaying practices and institutions of modern living impacting our generation simultaneously is causing a positive feedback loop of degeneracy, mental illness, and postmodern thinking that unfortunately impacts so many young people. Standards are dropping, accountability is reducing, degeneracy is rising, and all while this is promoted as a moral good by evil people.

Easily one of the most fascinating channels I've seen. I'd love if you could provide a reading list.

@bevbevan6189

Жыл бұрын

Scroll back a year in the Community section and you will find four posts with enough books on them to keep you busy for a long time. That won’t include what he’s read in the last year.

@riaanwessels9934

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same. A list regularly updated on a website would be ideal.

@learningeasylanguageandhis2212

Жыл бұрын

He has a Goodreads which is updated

@blizzarias9277

Жыл бұрын

shine on forever

@Sparrow24847

Жыл бұрын

I love that the channel provides opinions and theories that encourge further research and reading. whatifalthist and the energy skeptic website provide more book reccomendations than I can keep up with.

Anxiety based cultures seem very similar to shame-based cultures, except that the rules change more quickly

@sergiowinter5383

Жыл бұрын

Or that your clan isn't your family but the whole society and what said society perceive as good or bad

@imperialyakuza5368

Жыл бұрын

citation needed

Honestly I disagree with the idea that anxiety exists as a culture level emotional axis. I believe when you talk about anxiety you really talk about anxiety generated by shame. The issue isn't anxiety in and of itself, but the ascending status of shame in contexts where it didn't previously exist. Shame only doesn't generate anxiety when it is relatively straightforward to stay within the shame based rules. When the shame based rules become too easy to run afoul of, anxiety is generated because that anxiety is meant to keep you from operating outside the shame based rules. One of the more general ways our society has effectively elevated the status of shame has been in shaming people for not following procedural rules (whether they be legal, cultural, linguistic, and so on). The shame for not following procedural rules is different from shame for being a certain way. This on its own is no problem when the procedural rules themselves are simple, but becomes so when CYOA procedures get put in place over time to prevent bad things from happening in the future. Each rule in and of itself has justification, but eventually the rules themselves become so complex that you must study the rules for years in order to not break them. Today we are painfully aided by our information systems to be able to accumulate and maintain more rules than would've previously been practical. Essentially, modern information systems allow us the capability to create systems we are not prepared/evolved to operate within. Meanwhile today our society has identified the antidote to shame as pride. In reality, the only antidote to an overabundance of shame is a curtailing of shame in the overabundant areas or a curtailing of shame generating rules. Thus people are anxious because they still are affected by the shame, but trying to solve that problem in an unproductive way.

I think sadness/depression is a big driver of history. I think this is common for people groups who’ve experienced great trauma and responded with extreme focus on that trauma. One big example is the Native Americans, especially of the US, which have had insanely high alcoholism rates and little opportunities within reservations. I think radical Social Justice sects push this feeling onto marginalized groups too. Once I noticed this, I couldn’t stop thinking of examples, but my anxious self will leave that for y’all to think of.

@Rudenbehr

Жыл бұрын

Nah you’re right. Imo it’s kinda damaging too for the ethnic group that experienced the trauma. Proud cultures who inflicted the trauma have already moved on to fly to the moon, while traumatized cultures can only focus on the past.

@noname-zt2zk

Жыл бұрын

The worst thing about trauma is that some races/cultures still hold onto it even though a lot of them didn't live through it

@markgarrett3647

Жыл бұрын

I think it's the reservation system itself that perpetuates alcoholism and poverty with the Native Americans.

@toxicmale2264

Жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as a depression driven culture. The natives are a culture of pride. They are depressed because they don't have a culture anymore which makes them feel useless.

@1mol831

Жыл бұрын

Anxiety is just fear

Btw, Japan did apologizing to what they did to Indonesian in WW2, except for 2 warcrime, which is "Tugu Tani Massacre" and one other warcrime that i forgot Japan did pay warcrime compensation to Indonesia. They also giving so much effort in helping indonesia to develop both in economy, education and culture. That's why despite how terrible japanese treating indonesian in WW2, Indonesian until today positioning japan as indonesian best friend in asia, outside of south east asia. Japanese government effort to pay what they did to Indonesian during ww2 are the reason why Indonesia both government and people have mostly positive view about Japan, unlike how Indonesian see Netherland

@thecoolnerdplaysvr5674

Жыл бұрын

also indonesia doesnt have a whole lot of bad memories on japan. despite the crimes committed to them they still helped indonesia fight the dutch when they came back.indonesia remembers japan foundly despite its crimes. theyre more not even mentioned in museums or history. i told my indonesian fiancee the stuff they did in china and to american POWs and she was horrified. its not the japan they were taught helped them learn to fight and the arms required to initially fight a war against the dutch

@thegrandlord2914

Жыл бұрын

@@thecoolnerdplaysvr5674 japanese crime in indonesia were actually far more horrible than what dutch did during their 3,5 century presence in today indonesia. But just like what you said, due to what japanese did in supporting indonesian independence, lots of indonesia didn't pay too much attention to the horrible crime japanese did in the past. Plus, japanese both government and people gave so much positive impression to indonesian after independence, to the point that japanese became a role model on how society should be. Discipline, on time, polite, respectful and hardworking. Not many youngesters in indonesia aware of what japanese had done in this country. Indonesian culture did play a big role in it. You see, in our tradition and culture, we are taught not to remember or spreading other people's mistake to us if that person had done their best to repay for what mistake they did. And yeah.... Japanese did do their best to repay what mistake they did although not all of it. Compared to dutch, dutch didn't do much to repay for what they did to indonesian, and just like adding salt to the wound, they gave indonesia 4 million gulden in debt in exchange for acknowledging indonesian independence in which indonesian founding father have no other choise except to accept that. And we hate that dutch gave us so much debt after we make them rich, we even using some of japanese compensation money directly to pay that debt to dutch to teach them about shame.

6:00 Fear - "Is this going to bring misfortune on me?" - "You will enjoy this video, or else" 11:03 Shame - "Did this go against the group's rules?" "Will this make the group which I belong to look bad?" - "Your society will look bad, if you don't enjoy this video" 18:30 Pride - "Some things in life are just true, and these truths are worth dying for" - "Yeah, I enjoyed this video, and I would die for it" 25:36 Disgust - "Ew" - "Ugh, I can't believe you didn't enjoy this video" 29:52 Guilt - "Does God like it" - "I feel bad for not enjoying this video" 35:10 Envy - "I want him to have as less as me even if I wont get anything from him having less." - "You shouldn't enjoyed this video because I didn't, and if you enjoyed it, I will make this video unenjoyable for you even though I will still not enjoy this video" 41:28 Anxiety - "The main thing everyone in the society wants is to be given a surgery that makes all people after turning 16 beautiful, healthy, immortal, and ever-lasting youth. But they also unwittingly submitted to alterations to their brains And ultimately abandoning any sense of individuality in favor of a supposed perfected collective that is incredibly docile and stable." from Uglies by Scott Westerfield - "Will I be popular with other people, if I watched this video, not necessarily enjoying or even understanding it?" 23:58 Dignity (Pride in its virtuous or valuable form) - "Am I living up to an ideal virtuous man/woman?" "Am I living up to The Moral Code?" 24:10 Pride (Pride in its sinful or destructive form aka arrogance; aka treating or viewing others with contempt) - "How am I better than him/her?" 35:19 Jealousy (Envy in its virtuous or valuable form) - ""I want to have as much as him not necessarily requiring him to lose anything" Disclaimer: this comment is for personal use, and I sourced all of these from multiple other commenters (tj, Don T Comply, oljecg, niccudrat) the video, and I can only claim the "Ew" description for disgust as mine. And I also made some changes for my pea brain to understand better.

@hebercluff1665

Жыл бұрын

What are you using it for? I'm actually using your comment to bookmark references when I'm doing my world building for the books I'm writing. Thanks for that, by the way.

@jasper5902

Жыл бұрын

@@hebercluff1665 Im trying to learn the different emotions and i cant tell the differences between a lot of them

@DibyajyotiPatraAshu

4 ай бұрын

I Must Save It 😅...

The reason China didn't use guns or the printing press, despite inventing them, didn't have to do with tradition necessarily. Western powers were in a constant armsrace. Even today, Europe is the only continent to have sparked two world wars. The printing press is awesome... when you have like 50 letters. It honestly wasn't even feasible to use *computers* with Chinese characters until a method was developed to translate pinyin into characters. The language(s) are such that you can't really have a phonetic writing system, either, tradition aside, it's just not feasible, so good luck with a printing press with tens of thousands of characters.

@user-ou4jk2di4q

3 ай бұрын

Yes but the fact that the Chinese didn't feel the need to change their overly complex and ineffective writing system is a sign of stagnation. The koreans invented a real alphabet of their own even before they were exposed to the western alphabets brought by the Portuguese merchants and missionaries.

On the topic of anxiety. I think our society's continued and growing consumption of caffeine a substance linked anxiety maybe playing a larger Factor than we first realized.

@nannettefreeman7331

Жыл бұрын

I believe he did a video contrasting cultures that predominantly drink coffee vs cultures that predominantly drink tea a while back. It would be interesting to overlay anxiety-based cultures & coffee-drinking cultures, & explore how some coffee-drinking cultures have avoided becoming anxiety-driven, & also how the rise in popularity of coffee over tea coincides with a culture's shift towards a more anxiety-driven model. Of course, it might be a case of correlation having nothing at all to do with causation. Or maybe there's no correlation. Interesting topic to explore, though. ✌🏼

@anonymousAJ

Жыл бұрын

@@nannettefreeman7331 Isn't black tea caffeine level similar to coffee?

@Egilhelmson

Жыл бұрын

@@anonymousAJWhen brewed strongly enough, tea has as much caffeine as coffee, but most do not like their tea that strong. Coffee, OTOH, haas been bred for increased caffeine like pot has for increased THC. Hashish before the 1970s had the same levels as modern ordinary marijuana sold in medicinal shops.

@itsjustanapple5452

Жыл бұрын

What the h*ll. I saw comment similar to this and left this page, then I came back searching for it and it was gone. Somebody was talking about whatifalthistory video about the topic where they compare about coffee and tea consumers and their cultures. Do I live on truman show or what?

As a Brazilian, if I could define my own people with one word, it would be hope, it may seem a bit cliché, I know, but even if unconsciously and as if this had always been a hidden certainty within all of us! that we are part of a manifest destiny to be fulfilled, and that although we don't know when it will be fulfilled, we were destined for greatness! maybe it's something that came from our founding Catholicism but I truly perceive it in people that we could endure any difficulty believing in the certainty that one day we will be crowned with laurels, as if the country itself and what happens to ourselves were a divine test that we must pass. I know it's kind of crazy many writers of many currents have described it in many ways "fifth empire" "the country of the future" and it has even been related to our miscegenation as the harmonious union of three races would create a great nation, and a feeling strange for me to think about it

@solarsailor1534

Жыл бұрын

What’s fascinating is, if I could define America’s youth with one word it would be the opposite. Pessimism. Outside of a small elite I don’t know anyone from any political ideology who’s really optimistic about the future. Be it de-industrialization, climate change, war, political corruption, moral degradation, or a hundred other causes, everyone feels hopeless. We’re angry at the world yet feel powerless to change it.

@joebloggs396

Жыл бұрын

Manifest Destiny, yes the US has had this influence, definitely on India for example. Exceptionalism is troubling.

@ndescruzur4378

Жыл бұрын

@@solarsailor1534 Works for europe too, or any civilized nation really.

@quinnjohnson9750

Жыл бұрын

@@solarsailor1534 That statement right there sums up my generation right now and myself tbh. It feels like shit is going down in hell in a hand basket and the best we can do is just brace for the fall. Everything feels dull and pointless. No real adventure or exciting thing take place. The meme is true: Born to late to explore the high seas or go West, born to early too explore the stars.

@commandermcnash5137

Жыл бұрын

Mate, I am latinoamerican too, and I say, don't you dare bullshit all these westerners here, envy is Latinoamerica's current fad, you only have to look at the news to see how envy has made our societies failed ones, as a fact, we could have developed ourselves into guilt-based societies which could have allowed us to be anything other than third world anocracies, Brazil is no empire, is just the largest chunk of land in the subcontinent, you only have high numbers through sheer mass, you pretend you are into something but your economy is like the rest of us, ores, oil and some form of grain, you keep choosing leftoids like Lula who fund civil unrest across the region, you pretend to look tough by making americans go through the same shit visa process they put on us forgetting it is us fleeing to the west from favela gangs, corrupt politicians and uneducated masses notthem. So no, you are not a bastion of traditional values or the developed economy nation of the future, like India, China and Nigeria you are just demographically and territory-wise fat.

I just can't explain how much impact this channel has on my thinking processes.

You have to be one of the top-10 best KZreadrs! Always putting out great material.

Anexity thing is very interesting for me as a Gen Zer. There is a reason why we are so obsessed with old songs and fashions. I mean, most if tiktok popular songs are no less than 20 years of age. These old things provide a meaning for us.

@dontcomply3976

Жыл бұрын

I think it because the older music in particular is more well known. The new music while much of it is of a decent standard is more niche. Gravitating towards older music, gives people something common that they can latch on to, in the modern atomised society.

@jamesabestos2800

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I felt like we hated milliners for changing from the cycle and now we just want meaning. Create life through meaning or not Music predominantly from the 80s have a mystical sense of relatablilty despite being from 40 years, but that generation was split between two generations of thought and were forced to engage in change.

@electricpizza5774

Жыл бұрын

Gen Xer here. Prior to the internet becoming widespread in the mid-1990s, there weren't many distribution channels for media. Because of this, people generally watched the same TV shows, listened to the same music, etc. There was more of a shared pop culture back then, which is probably why old songs are still well known today. That's not to say it was better back then. The amount of choice people have today in music, video, and entertainment is much larger, which is awesome; but it does mean that there really isn't the same sense of shared pop culture as there was back then.

@scholaroftheworldalternatehist

Жыл бұрын

Also some survivor bias. All the trash music faded into obscurity so you prefer listening to the popular songs that lasted. It takes time to weed out the bad music.

@commanderruv8869

Жыл бұрын

Same here, I usually dislike a lot of modern things in this world, instead of opting for old fashioned things like music, fashion, and culture. So much of what we produce now carries little to no meaning.

As a Texan who has been fortunate enough to live outside of Texas and outside of the US I’ve largely seen my society be driven by shame despite the ingrained values of individualism in our culture. There’s a worry of bringing shame to one’s family name or not restoring some vague sense of honor to it. There’s a shame that “ought to be cast on outsiders” those who are or behave “non-Texan”. I understand the subcultures of the US are largely overlooked, and currently Texas is often hated or ignored in a general sense by Americans. But it might be a nice follow up video for you to look into. Keep up the great work AltHist! :)

@granda3649

Жыл бұрын

The same individualism that destroyed our country?

@myes6916

Жыл бұрын

@@granda3649 I would not regard individualism as being the means for that which destruct but the lack of morals and virtues. The idea that the individual has no duty to hold himself accountable to be better; to be a better man, employee/employer, sibling, parent, etc.

@astranix0198

Жыл бұрын

Texas is the 'Murica state

Whatifalthist and fellow commentating thisters, Thank you for this historical journey into Dante's Hell. In no particular order my Intellectual-Maturist(a new word in my vocab)-Stoic-Individualist Mind-Heart was intrigued by how you presented these ideas. You've given me a lot to think about (my highest compliment) and I will have to rewatch this before I can have a more specific reaction. Thank you, Jim Oaxaca Mexico 🙂

I suspect the idea humans are rational is an enlightenment idea but around the time of the european enlightenment there was also counter-enlightenment writers like De Maistre who argued the opposite of the european enlightenment ideal that humans are rational, progress is eternal and human nature is benign. There's a marvelous series of essays on these counter-enlightenment writers by the intellectual historian called 'The crooked timber of humanity' by Isaiah Berlin whom I recommend people read. There were alternative viewpoints in every period of history, we only hear the conventional ones because those writers are the ones who works won out and got passed down since historian is written by the intellectual victors as much as the military victors. I personally think the Whiggish idea of human rationality and the way the scientific revolution from Newton onward is very problematic as it is pernicious. For example take the rationalist's famous saint Isaac Newton. How many people know that alongside writing the Principia Newton was obsessed with decoding the bible and unravelling alchemy? Newton was a mathematical genius but to argue that his world was some how the prelude to a post-theistic scientific world is a myth as Newton himself identified himself as an 'arrian christian'. There's a book called 'Last of the magicians' which is a biography of Newton which argues this anti-rationalist stance.

ON ENVY: I'd like to double down on Rudyard's recommendation of Envy by Helmut Schoeck. This book has been in the libertarian canon of recommended reading for almost fifty years. And simply making yourself aware of the prevalence of the behavior among people who demonstrate envy, and why they do so, is necessary for those of us who don't demonstrate it and too often write it off or ignore it. It's along the lines of 'know thy enemy' as much as it is another warning to avoid the seven deadly sins, and a reminder to pursue the stoic virtues.

@nathanseper8738

Жыл бұрын

While I disagree with libertarians on many things, I agree that building yourself up and not hating the success of others is how we should act as a society.

@nicholjackson8388

Жыл бұрын

Religious freedom

46:44 That graph on the right is absolutely astounding. None of those are things that should cause stress to a normal person without prior trauma. I think it really shows the impact of sensationalized news, though a lack of critical thinking combined with limited readily available information could also be a large factor here.

@shane1948

Жыл бұрын

Shouldn't Gen Z who grew up with all that become desensitized?

Another great presentation. I typically watch you vids 3x just to fully digest it all.

This was really an in depth collection of profound thoughts no one else could have delivered. Thank you.

Fear = 6:00: is it a bad experience? Shame = 11:03: does it make the group look bad? Pride = 18:30: am I useless? Disgust = 23:58: is it pure? Guilt = 29:52: does God like it? Envy = 35:10: does he have more? Anxiety = 41:28: does the group like it?

@davidcollins2648

Жыл бұрын

Envy is more like = why is that girl his wife and not mine? Why does he drive a Tesla and I don't?.

@kevinfromsales9445

Жыл бұрын

Disgust is more like I don't like this group of people and their way of life! My people are superior and we should rule over them!

@timothymacdonnell9079

17 күн бұрын

I would also add to Guilt: do people who are important to me like it? (It’s not just God)

Whatifalthist be like "I'm not even sure where the idea that we are purely rational even came from" my brother in Christ it was the European enlightenment

@matthiuskoenig3378

Жыл бұрын

The self-described enlightment. Pretentious bastards.

@Kaspar502

Жыл бұрын

@@matthiuskoenig3378 well yes. I just called it that because it is commonly named that

Best channel ever. Real conversations of real social dynamics that are inside all of us.

I don't think that anxiety should be considered a separate moral emotion. Anxiety is a mood, much like anger, sadness, content, and excitement. Anxiety happens when we anticipate a possible failure of fear, shame, pride, disgust, or guilt.

I ain’t whatifalthist without the compulsory turkish superpower joke

@jimmartin2548

Жыл бұрын

And the United States have remained at stable 25% of the world economy 😂

Your videos are the only youtube videos I find enjoyment out of anymore. keep it up.

That's it, from now on I'm going to try and base my morality on guilt and pride, rather than on anxiety. I've been raised to fear disapproval from my peers above all else, but it seems fearing disapproval from myself is a better way to live.

@sergiowinter5383

Жыл бұрын

Guilt morality: what happens is God's will, and since God is infinitely wise and good, even bad situations will teach us something and be good for the long term, also very good solution to anxiety

@torpenhigalak5909

Жыл бұрын

@@sergiowinter5383 No it's not. If you wish to fill the void in your own bubble with the sense of purpose is to inflate the ego of a person, the easiest way is to use "God" as an excuse for instant gratification of self inflicting vanity for the human user. No matter what you do the path you take is up to you but never enforce it to others nor should you solicit them of your ideologue, it's a predatory means of human depravity in divinity.

This is one of the very few videos i’ve seen that i can say it’s life changing. Thank you very much for making it

Every time I see a squiggly line on one of Rudyard's maps I get a rush of dopamine I need a life

The explanation of Anxiety society is almost exactly like what I've been pondering about for the last year or two and something that's been bothering me. Asking older family I found out it is something recent truly only recent

I don't always comment but this was amazingly interesting. The amount of well packed and well delivered information in this video is just amazing

hey I just wanted to say here that I really enjoy your videos and while I don't agree with your ideals of all your videos. I've definitely learned a lot from your videos and helped me organize my own thoughts, and was a very interesting and well organized video!

@nannettefreeman7331

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing! I don't always agree with Rudyard, but I always find his thoughts on virtually any topic to be interesting, well-organized, thought-provoking & valid. He must have slain all who dared on the debate team! ✌🏼

Man I understand these maps aren’t supposed to be super accurate, but please look at a map of Australia and some point and notice where the major cities are…. Maybe a population density map

I also feel like in anxiety based cultures that it leads to nihilism because the common perception is that once we die we cease to exist altogether. Whereas prior, at least within Europe, it would be plausible to the average person that they would see their loved ones again and their descendents one day whether through heaven, Valhalla, Elysium etc. so it motivates them so try in their lifetime

@andrewwilson9183

Жыл бұрын

No, a lack of belief of life after death is a metaphysical claim beyond driving emotions. You could say that it’s reverse, that people who don’t believe in life after death are more anxious, that’s also not entirely true, but it’s better than thinking that anxiety leads to a metaphysical belief

@beastminer147

Жыл бұрын

No culture is mostly athiest. At all. No culture believes in absolutely nothing after death.

I am a teacher and I am thankful for the great material you have provided me for my classes. Hugs from Colombia.

That feel when you’re a dignity-based person living in an anxiety-based society 😪

@dnm3732

Жыл бұрын

Same

@hans7821

Жыл бұрын

Can relate.

@khalidalali186

Жыл бұрын

Your Gaelic brethren have made a fine living out here in the near East.

@dnm3732

Жыл бұрын

@@khalidalali186 what

@ofir.ll2004

Жыл бұрын

@@dnm3732 a lot of irish people have built a great life in the middle east

I get accused on "overdressing" but I honestly underdress, I wish I could wear suits w french cuffs, cufflinks etc but people judge you for it. I can't leave my apartment in t-shirts of shitty grey sweatpants.

@danshakuimo

Жыл бұрын

What sad segment of society do you live in?

@pyry1948

Жыл бұрын

@@danshakuimo young, middle class background

@Atabanza

Жыл бұрын

I wear a shirt and shorts because I live in an equatorial humid zone

@matthiuskoenig3378

Жыл бұрын

I wear that too for similar reasons (hot, humind climate). But I wear nice buttoned up, collared short sleeved t-shirts, of cotton. It creates a nice cool outfit for the climate, that doesn't look sloppy (to my own tastes atleast). But I love me my jackets, coats and blazers. Which is one of the minor reasons I intend to move to a colder climate (there are several major reasons, and a couple dozen minor reasons)

@michaelwang1524

Жыл бұрын

Im the opposite. Hate having to overdress for formal occasion find that stuff a huge hassle. All I wear is t-shirt and sweatpants lol. Although I would respect you the same if not more for dressing so professionally. I believe people can wear whatever the hell they want.

Guilt with some pride on the side is the best system.

"Attractive women are just a positive force in the world and they make life better without any real cost." - Whatifalthist, 2023

As a mid-30s "millennial" I do find heart in reading the comments from all y'all in your late teens and early twenties who've figured out you and your friends and loved ones have been fed a load of bull by people with the means and, alarmingly, the will to topple everything humanity has achieved throughout the centuries, despite all the truly terrible heart-wrenching tangible losses and horrors that occurred along the way. May we never forget, but the baby/bathwater expression also does come to mind. I hope some of you decide to become lawyers, sheriffs, and politicians. And that others of you plan to infiltrate this nation's vast bureaucracy and all those C-suites and accreditation boards. And that you immediately set about correcting course from within - strangling the leviathan and restoring the dignity and self-determination of the two-parent household to freely associate with whomever they wish, and teach their children how they damn well please, and not have to rely on a heartless, bloated welfare state. Cities can be safe and healthy with a responsible citizenry, but that relies sometimes on charismatic leaders who can behind the scenes keep those with real power from succumbing to the easy, lazy trap of corruption. Just from what I read here I do see some of that potential leadership in here already, in many of you. Whatever happens, may the Fates guide you to good, wonderful things.

I have never heard of a anxiety culture. But oh my God that is my whole life. I started getting anxiety in 1st grade. Bro I was like 6 or 7. Why was I thinking that deeply in first grade? I would have mental breakdowns because of it. Even to this day I have anxiety over everything. I can't play games without feel anxious I'm doing it wrong or not doing it right. I can't look at my hair without thinking it looks bad. I can't drive without fearing driving ro hard my my car will break. Or some idiot will hit me. I can't pick food without thinking of the health facts. I can't spend money without thinking it would be better used elsewhere. I can't buy a car without fearing it might break. I am always thinking I need to work out to look good. I get anxiety over my friends. I don't think I can date honestly at this point either. I have never had a significant other. Also swinging for the same team doesn't help. I can't find anyone who I like and terrified I will never get to experience such a basic experience. Always anxious somebody will find that out. I'm anxious about my future personally and then the future for everyone as all these studies show we are going to have a worst life than the people before us. I use to take medicine for this. Honestly maybe I should start up again.

@quinnjohnson9750

Жыл бұрын

Same boat with you bro. Welcome to Gen Z. We all anxiety ridden people who are afraid of everything and anything.

@apersonwhohasnothing

Жыл бұрын

Same man same. I am mostly guilt-based besides anxiety, and the culture I live in is shame-based which makes me dislike the social norms here. Therefore, making socializing and dealing with normal stuff more challenging for me. I just feel like I don't fit in and can't fulfill the expectations of my society.

@shawnslasagna

Жыл бұрын

I've had a similar life experience growing up and although it might seem like your anxiety won't change, it might. At least, that is what's happening to me. The older i've gotten, the more i've had to accomplish due to necessity, despite being an anxious person. You'll probably understand how to manage yourself too, with time.

So basically the West has moved from guilt and pride based society to a combination of guilt. anxiety and envy.

Plz make an entire video on the moral pillar of anxiety. It would be awesome!

Anxiety based culture may be a consequence of managerialism. The main incentives driving managers are not the actual success of their company, since it is owned not by them but by pension funds and the like, but the effect of this on their professional reputations. If the elite are selected by an internal popularity contest, is it any wonder that the rest of the surrounding society mirrors this?

What a brilliant mind this guy has! Kudos to you my friend, people will be quoting you on intellectual discussions soon enough!

8:42 The fact that u think Sub Saharan cultures were solely or rather majorly based on fear rather than an intertwined tapestry of both shame and fear is extremely laughable. Sure African societies were fear based and viewed certain things as a set of spirits that needed to be appeased from time to time but they also had a set of moral codes, values and standards eg; respect for elders, commitment to family & community, hardwork, hospitality , character, that did not necessarily had to be referred to the spirits and external magical forces to be maintained. African societies emphasized more on the sense of community than individualism thus values , morals norms and standards that Once an individual breaks such codes he would often be looked at with disdain or shame and breaking such codes would be considered a social/communal taboo. The individual would be set aside from the community or guided by his mentors to correct their behavior . And at some point a clan of elders who were like the supreme leaders of most tribal communities in traditional African society would be called in to issue punishments to wrongdoers or those who violate the values instilled within their society like paying fines eg; giving up livestock and part of land , banishment from community which kinda indicates there was a guilt aspect in the society. And at some point the fear aspect of the society would be observed where the clan of elders would perform rituals to cleanse the violation the individual committed. (Check the roles of clan of elders in certain traditional African communities like the Ameru , Agikuyu as a point of reference to my comment) Overall I think your outlook towards African Traditional Societies as a whole is incredibly simplistic ,lazy and one dimensional to say the least and I'd suggest you to just stick to societal structures in other regions if you can gather such a sketchy take. And this is why with each passing day I'm beginning to distrust online content (moreso KZread & TikTok) that covers political , social , historical or economical matters concerning sub Saharan Africa as their work & takes continously shows how lazy, poorly researched and poorly interpreted it is towards this aspects. And crazily enough this is a major sin when it comes to western content creators and communicators. I think I'll have to stick to authentic written work or experts who are African themselves and would understand the aspects within their society more than anyone.

@bitcoinzoomer9994

Жыл бұрын

This video would be much better if he spent hundreds of hours researching the thousands of different irrelevant african tribes

@ronaldtaylor8326

Жыл бұрын

@@bitcoinzoomer9994 Or just don't do a video including African societies if they are irrelevant ...thank you : ). Laziness and ignorance is not an excuse.

@Instabram108

Жыл бұрын

@@bitcoinzoomer9994 It sounds like hes spent hundreds of hours researching Europe, why shouldnt he research africa the same way?

@matthiuskoenig3378

Жыл бұрын

Because you only have so much time in the day.

@matthiuskoenig3378

Жыл бұрын

@ronaldtaylor8326 If you paid attention to the video you would have seen shame is infact mentioned as a major factor in subsarahan African cultures. At 11:00 for example. He also never said they was solely based on fear, he said its one of the areas/cultures where its strongest. Note he also mentions a number of subsarahan cultures have strong/major pride based cultures.

You have clearly done your reading and put the hard work into this. Plenty of points to debate, but nonetheless I am impressed and will watch a second time.

Whatifalthist.. I don't know if you'll see this, but if you do, thank you for your work. I truly appreciate the chance to see such a well thought out perspective, and displayed in such an entertaining manner as this. I can't believe I hadn't subscribed sooner. Much respect, sir

very good work! I want to keep up< I pause to understand the very fast narration (but if it has to be like this to exist, I take it)

The Japanese thinking they did nothing wrong reminds me of the Turkish government "wE tReAted ArMeNiAnS wEll."

@bornstar481

Жыл бұрын

Who cares about Armenians

@azlyri

Жыл бұрын

@@bornstar481 I know, right? They were just massacred

@ataraxia7439

Жыл бұрын

I’m Turkish and I care. Every person regardless of ethnicity or language deserves dignity and human rights.

@sergiowinter5383

Жыл бұрын

@@bornstar481 Christianity

Christianity really have changed the World. Glory to Christ

These videos are dense. A lot to unpack, great work!

Fantastic analysis! Really well thought through and explained. Thank you

shame, disgust and envy: cringe fear and anxiety: mid pride and guilt: based

It’s very likely that we are missing some vital, fundamental, and seemingly insignificant aspect of reality. It would explain our species gravitation towards depression despite most people feeling a sense of peace when looking at something technically mundane like a sunset.

@talknight2

6 ай бұрын

We've reached the top of Maszlow's Pyramid and there's just nothing beyond to aim for.

Anxiety is a phase you grow through. It is not something you are stuck with for your whole life because you were born into a particular generation. I've sometimes thought about what advice I would give to my younger self. It probably would be "Don't worry so much."

I have found two social clubs and I am attending them both this month! Thanks for the idea!

You know, while watching this video I was simultaneously having a discussion/debate with a friend of mine, and it really felt like this video was some kind of meta analysis of the entire thing KeK

2:34 once again penguins show no adverse emotions, truly the enduring hegemony of our planet.