This panel can put out close to 100 watts kzread.infoUgkxOqI2yqX0XVrhR2BMJciTWrHJpG8FhJyg when positioned in the appropriate southernly direction, tilted to the optimal angle for your latitude/date, and connected to a higher capacity device than a 500. The built in kickstand angle is a fixed at 50 degrees. Up to 20% more power can be output by selecting the actual date and latitude optimal angle.The 500 will only input 3.5A maximum at 18 volts for 63 watts. Some of the excess power from the panel can be fed into a USB battery bank, charged directly from the panel while also charging a 500. This will allow you to harvest as much as 63 + 15 = 78 watts.If this panel is used to charge a larger device, such as the power station, then its full output potential can be realized.

Professional ESS installer here. Really solid work connection wise. I couldn’t tell if this was going in your house or an RV. But one thing I’d do is encase the Li-Ion cells in something less flammable than a wooden box. If you ever have a thermal runaway or short, that wooden encasement is tinder for a battery fire. Some jurisdictions here where I’m at in CA are requiring fire suppression systems in homes and businesses where storage systems are. The industry is actually moving away from Li-Ion. Great work tho!

@kr-lp2nj

Жыл бұрын

What battery are they moving to? Lifepo4?

@magikplanofficial

Жыл бұрын

@@kr-lp2nj Yes most manufacturers are, but the building departments got a bad taste from li-ion so the codes are becoming really strict. They are even getting tough on installing them in your garage without expensive fire alarms.

@JeffMcNeal

Жыл бұрын

@@magikplanofficial This is correct. Getting the permitting for my 24kWh ESS was a nightmare that went on for months after the rule changes in June or July 2021. Absolute nightmare. Even though I was installing Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries, I would up having to install them outside, instead of inside the garage where I preferred to have them. They said in order to install inside the garage, I would either have to retrofit my entire home for sprinklers or have a "state approved" heat detector, which at the time of my installation in Jan '22, simply did not exist.

@GrenYT

Жыл бұрын

​@@magikplanofficial LFP is still lithium ion lol. Yes it is much safer, but the industry isn't "moving away from lithium ion". It's just evolving to use safer li ion that uses safer materials (at the cost of less energy density)

@bozotheclown935

Жыл бұрын

Everyone should be made to watch a house burn to the ground to quite get the flavour of it. I have seen two [No I did not start them]. All my electronics designs and builds are done putting fire safety above all because of what I saw with those two houses. It scared the hell out of me. I did a lot of work on hybrid vehicles 40 years ago and saw what happens with rogue batteries. While I admire what this lad is doing with his clean install and beautiful workmanship, I would be putting this in a steel closet lined with cement sheeting so it has NO CHANCE of burning down anything. You could then fit that inside you garage. I admire you work and professionalism in fitting this Zai. Best wishes from Australia.

FYI, saw a lot of comments asking why not use it as-is, you gave a good answer about the inverters, but there is an inverter that you can get second hand pretty cheap that supports up to 450vdc - Solaredge hub. maybe on your next adventure you will consider it :P That's what i'm gonna use

You are a genius, and brave to face the challenge, the days ahead can change the world.

@xythiera7255

3 жыл бұрын

Brave ? . Your genius standarts are realy low. Its not Brave at all . Its more a fun project no normal user woud ever take the risk on. Its fine as long as nothing happens. If anything fails you are bejond fucked . There is no garenty nothing .

@xpristsia

2 жыл бұрын

@@xythiera7255 Doing something risky which no one would try must be bravery. What am I missing?

Amazing bro. & that explosion💥 was hilarious 😂

There's enormous battery capacity for what appears to be a relatively small load. You're feeding that small load center with what looks like #10 SO cord, using (14) low amperage (probably) circuit breakers. It seems like the battery is overkill but I like it. Battery inverters like Tesla's Powerwall are too expensive and undersized IMO. Thanks for the video.

nice setup, waiting for the next video.

Just did my first battery pack repair, good job. I want to build a homade powerwall for solar next!

Thats a bad ass setup! Twelve 250a 24v modules! WOW! Im currently building a Tesla system, currently have 4 of the modules and want 4 more.

Young man, your are an incredible orator, with a fantastic knack for self-sufficient energy adoption. Your video is not only inspiring but, perfectly informative, and fun! Well done buddy. Planning on a similar project, and super excited that by using the Tesla cells, you have already broke down the correct format and use case. There are always going to be critics along the way, but you already know this lol. There will be no limit to what you will ultimately, and undoubtedly, venture to achieve on your journey. Awesome video, keep it up!

@ZaiFuchigami

8 ай бұрын

I really appreciate your kinds words, it means a lot :) Best of luck to you and your project!

TY for telling us where u got the battery from!

Hi , I am very impressed with the quality of the work and the enthusiasm that you have shown .. I would worry about the cells going on fire. I would like to see the batteries build into a metal enclosure and away from the main house for safety. It would be great to see somebody take the original battery enclosure and modify it and fit it as it is like a fire wall only larger.

@joanmitorrens353

8 ай бұрын

The metal enclosure is a great idea. Keeping away the batteries from the house... its almost imposible. You need to much cable section for that amount of current/voltage. And every meter you add, you have to increase that section making it economicaly inviable.

Well done, such great project can feed a few houses easily. An awesome idea 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Do you think it’s a good idea to have that many un encased LiPo cells inside a residence? I’d be thinking of having it in an auxiliary building. Were the buss/jumpers all fed from the same end instead of diagonally? Gloves are a good idea but safety glasses can save your eyes. That much potential can vaporize a good chunk of metal if you have a moment of distraction.

@LatinDanceVideos

Жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same thing. Just saw a news story of Tesla power wall fire. If Tesla can’t get it perfect, we all should be taking more care. I can recall the diy ebike scene building batteries and chargers, discovering battery fires. Then people realised batteries needed to be charged in fire safe containers. Old bbqs, steel drums, concrete bunkers, non flammable fibre board fire barriers. Some people even set up sand bags as fire extinguishers to smother the flame and smoke.

@LatinDanceVideos

Жыл бұрын

The tip on wearing eye protection is understated. I was horrified seeing the live batteries being moved under dangling bare cable lugs.

@davidkasch628

Жыл бұрын

You guys sound like a bunch of babies.

@alexlabs4858

Жыл бұрын

Ya

@GrenYT

Жыл бұрын

​@@LatinDanceVideos they are 24V modules, so they can't really cause arc flash...

Would love to see a video on how you set up the system. I would love to make one of these to run my house when there is an outage and charge from my solar. Appreciate it

@ZaiFuchigami

3 жыл бұрын

Coming soon!

@pabbip9

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZaiFuchigami Appreciate it! If I can learn from your KZread channel I will make some for my neighbors. We lost power in Texas 2 weeks ago for almost 4 days. This would help us out a ton!

@arnoldtarbooz1420

2 жыл бұрын

@@pabbip9 no it won't

@kinostory

9 ай бұрын

LiIon instead lifepo. Wooden shield, instead of metal. Oh yeah )@@ZaiFuchigami

as a 2013 model s p85 (non D model) owner, this is very interesting to watch

Your work is very awesome and very clean work like wiring is very proper i install inverter in my house by my self but wires looks very bad I don't know how you manage these wires very clean i love your work.

I found something interested here. I like your efforts. And thank you for sharing :)

You got me dude. I was so into it till the explosion made me jump. 😅

Zai, I used to be a heavy helicopter mechanic. The Sealant between the sleave and spindle and upper and lower star of the rotor head is impossibly hard to chip away.

@dalecarmichael60

Жыл бұрын

Did you ever try heat gun? I mean, I don't know if it could be used, I'm just curious.

@heartobefelt

Ай бұрын

acetone will strip away some epoxy insulators , even steam cleaner will soften them

Nice work.. I started my power wall about 5 years ago using mostly Lap top cells, Now nearly all are gone.. don't be tempted to use laptop cells, they are discarded for a reason. I'm up to about 20Kw but that's where it stops as the solar shed is full. Its my Daily top up for my Tesla.

this seems so dangerous... thanks for doing the scary part for me! Here researching for a boat/yacht solar use case. Thanks for the video.

Very nice package. Thank for sharing 👍

Awesome work!

The level of knowledge is out of this world can't wait to see it work and man yaw should start a business building these for folks yaw would be rich rich

@ZaiFuchigami

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, thank you

This is the way to do it! 100kw model was my idea but I always overdo it.

@ZaiFuchigami

3 жыл бұрын

I think we all go overboard (and over budget) with these projects 😅

@twosawyers

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZaiFuchigami absolutely

i have 2 model S modules n my Rv - Victron inverter and solar charger - i use to charge battery on my Sur Ron ebike- ridden 1000 miles on 100% solar power

@ZaiFuchigami

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I’ve been running my DIY BBSHD E-bike with sun power too, only done about 150km on it though...

@pamparker4047

3 жыл бұрын

Way to Go

@SaroeurnDIY

3 жыл бұрын

I also like Victron products

That wooden box looks nice but makes perfect accelerant if you ever get a runaway event in the batteries or the inverters.

@TheRealDogfart

2 жыл бұрын

I think the small wood box is the least of his worries in that event. It's like a matchbox.

@roseknows702

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah definitely would have just mounted that whole car battery box on the wall and kept the modules in their original steel enclosure.

That is one badass feat of engineering

Be advised the cooling system on Tesla cars operates at 1 to 2 PSI. Don’t use a higher pressure.

Solid setup

I am in the land Tesla solar forgot, South Carolina. Managed to get a consultation with Span in a few hours. Hoping to get more information on the battery software integration with Tesla and other battery systems with Span.

You've got cool stuff Dude 👍

Top.... 👏👏 Excelente video

Nice project, i want install one too, congrats

Greetings, why are you swapping out the the Nissan leaf batteries for the Tesla? When I built my system I decided on Tesla over the Leaf batteries because most of the Leaf batteries I could find had less than 60% capacity.

Very nice work there 👍

@ZaiFuchigami

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

I love that line - "Jehu said that, I learn from Jehu!"

Tesla Battery Impressive. But Room for Improvement. Thanks for Video.

Awesome job!

Nice work

The only big one I seen, with the batteries, feed one of the cables from other direction to ensure even pull or charge on packs.

@offgridmgtowhomestead2520

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I was sitting here saying the same thing

Cool video

Why take the battery packs out of the Tesla OEM container? Would you be able to create the same end result? Thinking about have the battery pack on a floor of a BOX Truck Overlander Build

This vidio boost my adrenalyne for DIY. 😃💥

Great idea putting a battery pack into a nice wooden box! It will aid in accelerated combustion when the whole project goes up in smoke.

great system!!!

@ZaiFuchigami

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I was wondering if this is a new battery and got the answer by looking at the fuse you pulled out in a video from 2021 lol Im such a freak 😂

You need to add T class fuses !

Nice mate 👍🏼👍🏼

@ZaiFuchigami

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Nice setup you have there too 👍

Excuse me while I pick up my jaw which has fallen all the way to the floor !

So cool,thanks for this video,May I know how many KWH use to for a day?

What voltage is heading into your multiplus from the batteries? it looks like the batteries are in parallel.

Have you tried applying heat to sealant?

Please consider putting some anti-flammable stuff in there to prevent once any of the cells go bad to burn your complete house down.

Can you update the description with a breakdown of your equipment and their associated costs? Also, where did you find the battery and how much did it and shipping cost?

@Pujan_Patel_4899

3 жыл бұрын

Same me

@TheHouseOfKoinonia

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@momoney2203

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. That will be nice

@sayonaradesu1087

3 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@xythiera7255

3 жыл бұрын

If you ask for costs then its most likely nothing for you .

Any particular reason you didn’t feed the batteries with the positive from one end and the negative from the opposite end? This would ensure even current distribution from each of the parallel banks as the wiring resistance will be approximately equal to every bank.

@ZaiFuchigami

3 жыл бұрын

Thats something I screwed up on that I plan to fix soon.

@MrCarmelo1959

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZaiFuchigami why no comment about the cost involved??

@ZaiFuchigami

3 жыл бұрын

MrCarmelo1959 Apologizes for the delay. I’m working on a whole video breaking down the cost in detail. It should be done soon.

@SAGmyTube

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZaiFuchigami CAN NOT WAIT DUDE. Thanks for sharing.

@EVLS10

2 жыл бұрын

He's pulling so little compared to the total output capacity it really doesn't matter. They will self balance faster than he can charge/discharge them.

Do not use a parallel connection on one side of the cells. Give the plus wire on one side and the minus wire on the opposite side. This helps to unevenly discharge and charge individual cells.

@ZaiFuchigami

26 күн бұрын

Caught that after this video went up. All fixed now :)

Interesting on these conversation of battery packs. I wonder why , though, why people don't just use those nice weather proof cases and plug into it as the car would. Then do step down after that. Put case in free air or a ground coffin to keep battery cool. Searched and didn't find anyone taking advantage of this.

@ZaiFuchigami

3 жыл бұрын

Its been done before but the main limiting factor is cost. At full pack voltage the output connector will read around 400VDC, at this voltage its very difficult to find inverters and chargers that can handle such high voltages. Almost all battery systems max out at around 48VDC nominal so finding relatively affordable (under 10K) inverters and chargers is easier.

@richardmccombs617

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZaiFuchigami ok that would make sense. I had thought that they had made the level 2 chargers a two way connection. This was talked a lot over in the Uk, using the car to balance the grid. Guess it didn’t happen . I had figured everything was basically done.

@mikewinkker4897

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like some smart people could design a plug and play inverter for the 400v system to utilize the entire pack in the future. Incredible job you guy totally rocked the build . Rockstars

@wolverinewelding8753

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZaiFuchigami I still think using the metal case and re-doing the electrical connections inside would be the way to go.. specially because those batteries can explode and catch fire when punctured, overcharged OR overheated. That wood case is not a good idea.

@ZaiFuchigami

3 жыл бұрын

Puncture is pretty much impossible as it’s stationary and there isn’t something really sharp that could penetrate the cells. Overcharge is also unlikely as both the BMS and charge controller would have to fail to let the voltage get above 4.2v/cell. If you’ve seen any Tesla fire you can see that the steel casing doesn’t really help to stop it.

To my mind Tesla batteries need to be modular whereby you can slide the old battery out and slide the replacement in. The old batteries can then be sent back to Tesla for reconditioning. In modern technology simplicity has to be key.

Is it possible to use the battery pack “as is” directly. Would seem a lot safer and easier. Is voltage a problem?

pick 6 mm or 7... both work. My german heart just cracked there.

Looking good, camera work makinme sick 😷

Hi :-) Super Projekt !

Hallo sehr guter Speicher 👍😎

8:40 a brazilian meme finally :) nazaré kkkk

not sure if you've addressed this, but have you thought of buying a simple fire suppression system for where the batteries are stored? worthwhile investment to protect all those modules/batteries.

@YourDadsBoyfriend

Жыл бұрын

Lol never seen lithium battery fires huh. It should be installed in an out building anyways.

Lol the power up got me really good

Great video. A doubt, the gloves used are PPE?

Genuine question, why do all this? What do you get by using a vehicle-grade battery pack for a home? You get more capacity. But it is meant for a vehicle type environment, to withstand different conditions, which you won't be facing in your home. So all that is really just an overhead that you're throwing away.

Bro, we've all learned from Jehu Garcia. He is the father of DIY powerwalls.

@rafaelrivas70

Жыл бұрын

😂

How expensive was the tesla battery pack you bought ??? How much do you think you will save using the DIY wall power pack ???

You can open covers easy with hotair without demage case.

Must be VERY sunny there for this to work.

@ZaiFuchigami

2 жыл бұрын

It actually rains quite a lot where I live. So the large battery capacity helps to power though those times. Could always use more panels though.

why not leave in chassis and ceiling mount on steel frame?...or wall mount?

Awesome!👍

I skipped through video may I ask what you use to actually charge batterys please and what amps to charge and voltage.

Videos like this definitely get the attention of Tesla Motors

Not sure I would do this. Batteries are stack next together without cooling. Fire hazard risk is too high to do it like this. In their original seal pack separated from each other liquid coolen, fire was still able to burn down a metal car. Video show a wooden container box with batteries compact together. I can see bad thing could happen if one cell get fry causing a chain reaction. I would separate each unit by a least 6" in well ventilated metal box outside away from the house.

So this battery can keep an average house hold going for a day or two including nights?

Which contactor relay did you use?

Can you share the AC breaker panel you are using please?

Were Tesla Model S P85 Batteries new or used? Could you tell me what is the single batery model or information about mah, A, V

Where did you buy this battery? Ebay? Great price. I paid $1k per module 5 years ago.

Nice setup what are you using to communicate with the modules?

@ZaiFuchigami

3 жыл бұрын

Eliud Orozco SimpBMS

how did you get the battery?

I want to attach skateboard Motors right to one of those packs

Where do you recommend sourcing EV/Tesla batteries?

6:16 howly faaahhhckkk!!

I'm having a hard time believing this is $80 a kwh. Where did you buy it from? The modules alone go for $130]-$1500 a piece equalling $300 a kwh.

@mojtaba3296

2 жыл бұрын

It seemed like a silly thing to do, and it was mostly a propaganda ploy for Tesla. This is very expensive and costly.

@ZaiFuchigami

2 жыл бұрын

Lol a propaganda ploy? I bought the pack from Yahoo auction here in Japan where demand is essentially nonexistent. That’s why the whole pack was so cheap at around 5,800USD. It’s from a P85 which is 80Kwh new. But i tested the modules and it had 70kWh remaining capacity. $5,800 / 70kWh = $85/kWh

@randybobandy9828

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZaiFuchigami when the fuck did I say anything about a "propaganda ploy"?

@randybobandy9828

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZaiFuchigami demand might be nonexistent but so is supply. Why would there be a tesla pack there and if it wasn't in Japan the shipping cost alone would thosands.

@ZaiFuchigami

2 жыл бұрын

Randy Bobandy I was replying to the other guy. And the pack was from a wreaked Model S that was sold and driven in Japan. The battery was removed from the car and I bought it. I also live in Japan.

Did you get all the coolant out by connecting to the loops as you did in the video? Or did you have to do something more to get all the coolant out? Thanks!

@ZaiFuchigami

Жыл бұрын

I got all the coolant out with only the method I used in the video. Some modules did still had a few drops left over. Very little though.

@Hazard4K

8 ай бұрын

@@ZaiFuchigami btw idk if it's been stated here but the coolant runs at a very low pressure .. only a few psi.. probably why you had that kaboom early on

What was that panasonic relay from the leaf for?

Hi ! Sir can you tell me please what kind of BMS I need for 7 tesla cells? I’m planning to buy 14 cells bot 24v home powereall .any help?

Thank you!! Best video ive seen on KZread in a long time!! Can i please ask where you got the battery?? The whole p85 pack looks to be around $15,000.. Thanks brother!!

@ZaiFuchigami

9 ай бұрын

I appreciate that :) I got the pack on Yahoo Auction Japan for 700,000 Yen at the time. Shipping included. With the current exchange rate that's about 5k USD.

Why do you need a BMS if all the packs are in parallel ?

If they are 6 mm or 7, both would work… is there any chance they’re actually 6.35mm? Aka quarter inch?

Good video super

What about the cooling system ? are you going to set this up too?

@panospapadimitriou3498

Жыл бұрын

i dont think that victron could rush those packs.!!! the will go smooth and easy for their second life story

“succsess” - whoops. Great job tho on the install!

The work you have done is great. I have been struggling with getting an electrician in to get my inverter connected to my home. Is there any possibility you might be able to send me a list of bits I need and how to do it please?