Let's not forget the F14 is the only one to shoot down two gen 5 stealth fighters as documented in Top Gun.

@robmx2324

10 ай бұрын

And two Japanese Zeros in another movie. 😀

@mrgrinch837

10 ай бұрын

funny

@fredhughes4115

10 ай бұрын

@@robmx2324 Final Countdown?

@jasoneckels4084

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@GUNNER67akaKelt

10 ай бұрын

@@fredhughes4115 Yup.

Nobody mentioned the coolest F-15 kill that was scored by an F-15E Strike eagle that dropped a large LGBU Bomb through the rotor blades of an MI-24 Hind Helicopter during the first Iraq war. It was the soul air to air kill for the strike eagle, but by far the coolest…

@PlugInRides

10 ай бұрын

SOLE A2A kill, not soul.

@robertmantell1700

10 ай бұрын

Plus 1:0 is a really, really low kill ratio lol

@protonneutron9046

10 ай бұрын

it was an air to air kill

@Brownboy42069

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, and that pilot and his WSO didn't positive ID the helicopter before dropping the bomb. They were asked if they did and said they were scared shitless that they had just killed friendlies until they were informed after the fact that there were no friendly helicopters in the area. Cool kill, absolute dog shit decision-making.

@damndirtyrandy7721

10 ай бұрын

@@Brownboy42069remember that was around the time two F-15s shot down 2 Blackhawks with neutral observers of some sore aboard them

The F-15, the greatest distributor of MiG parts. 😁

@Hairysteed

10 ай бұрын

Isn't that the F-4:s title?

@BagoPorkRinds

10 ай бұрын

​@@Hairysteed Well technically yes with the F-4 A thru J models having a confirmed 147 kills in aerial combat during the Vietnam War from 1965-1973. But 382 F-4s were lost in combat during the war both from air and ground fire. A total of 445 F-4s were lost that included accidents and losses while on the ground. The vast majority of the losses came from SAMs and ground fire. A website claims the F-4 of all models totaled 306 air-to-air kills, 106 air-to-air losses, and 543 losses from ground fire through 14 conflicts (Vietnam 1965 to Lebanon 2000) from 3 different nations that includes the U.S., Israel, and Iran. So the total ratio of the F-4 is 3:1 in aerial combat or 65.3% win. While the F-15A-E is 105:0 at 100%. 3 F-15E were lost to ground fire (2 during the Gulf War and 1 in the Iraq War).

@Hairysteed

10 ай бұрын

@@BagoPorkRinds No, I mean for example if you google "distributor of mig parts", what aircraft comes in the results? That title is attributed to that aircraft.

@BagoPorkRinds

10 ай бұрын

@@Hairysteed Yes it is the F-4 holding the crown as the MiG's daddy. I just added more stats for the F-4 and F-15 to add more context.

@ravenmoon5111

10 ай бұрын

I’m never gonna shade the Phantom 👍

Meanwhile, no one has dared to even challenge the Cessna 172 in aerial combat!!! Also, beware the Goodyear Blimp.

@TheRealArobTheArab

10 ай бұрын

That's because modern fighters can't fly that low 😉. I'd rather have a T182T which would at least get me into the flight levels before I was shot down.

@garyhayes8311

10 ай бұрын

Everybody knows you don’t mess with Cessna🤣

@alfnoakes392

10 ай бұрын

The Goodyear Blimp has demonstrated its ability to survive ground-fire inflicted by random Cletus's as it wobbles over the US... and to put up a fight against Sidewinders and the like if the Chinese Balloon episode is any indication.

@jeffstevens156

10 ай бұрын

LMAO!

@idubzh243

10 ай бұрын

Mathias Rust, in may 1987, thwarted all the soviet defenses and landed on Red Square without any scratch... And all of this with a custom Cessna 172.

F-22 has a solid 1 : 0 on the board now, vs Chinese Spy Balloon. Hey, if we're counting helicopter kills, only fair to count balloons lol.

@Delphar

10 ай бұрын

poor fella, raptor's diet is lacking. he hasnt had any migs.

@methylmania

10 ай бұрын

Like a sword that never drew blood or a muscle car parked in a museum. It will be a sad day when they hang up the old raptor. Knowing what she could do in a dogfight but never getting the chance. There are very few weapons systems in history that are so good the enemy could never counter them. So far it's raptor and a nuclear icbm. And the later we shouldn't even joke about using. @@Delphar

@till5520

10 ай бұрын

And I guess it'll stay there. Nobody wanna f$ck with these...

@catdaddy7982

10 ай бұрын

Helicopters have the advantage in the tree line so they count. At least the raptor hit the balloon with the first shot. The F-16 missed.

@jimgraham6722

10 ай бұрын

An F35 got a toy balloon over the Yukon.

I was a Marine F-4J radar tech nearing the end of my enlistment in early 1979, when a F-15 made an emergency landing (engine oil leak) and parked in our hanger in MCAS Beaufort. My GOD those things made our Phantoms look like Cessna 172's. They were HUGE. I crawled up in the cockpit, amazed to find a few CRT's and not mush else. Our Phantoms were filled with steam gauges and circuit breakers. hahaha I still miss that twin J-79 powered brick! 😥 Agree about the Harrier In it's day, nothing could touch it.

@trespire

10 ай бұрын

I was a strutural technician mostly on Kurnass F-4E, and some other platforms. The F-15 is a big jet, but not much bigger than a Phantom. A lot of an F-15 perceived size is from the high mounted wings. In D-Check (heavy maintenance), 4 of us used to play pass the ball on top of an F-15 in our lunch break. We wore booties to protect the paintwork, a guy was on each wing, the third on the engine humps, the forth guy was goal keeper infront of the extended boron-epoxy speed brake. We kept it clean of FOD & no one fell off the wing. We used to joke, calling the F-15 Baz our tennis court.

@joeblow5037

10 ай бұрын

@@trespire did you ever see them side by side in a hanger? That F-15 was TALLLLL!

@trespire

10 ай бұрын

@@joeblow5037 Sure did. The F-15 is big plane and stands tall. The Phantom, with it's low slung wings seemed easier on the armament techs. to load it. I do have a strong bias towards the Phantom as I worked on them most of the time. The Phantom squadron on our base were specialist in long range ground strike, so a typical load was all 3 drop tanks + full pilons. The pilots used the whole runway to build speed before slowly lumbering into the air. Was a bit scary to watch, but boy they could haul some iron. We had one ot two extra large "specialized" payload items that were even too big for an F-15. Saw it with my own eyes in 91, it was clear what I was looking at. Would not have been a good day for Sadam's forces.

@joeblow5037

10 ай бұрын

@@trespire should have seen them launch off the carrier 🙂 we did the first cruise on the Nimitz (a Med) especially at night...a thing of beauty VMFA-333...lots of pics on the net....ours were the white radome, the 100-113 numbers....and the nimitz print jun '76 - feb '77. what a place for a 19 year old to be. theCold war was hot and heavy....we even got buzzed by a TU Bear on the way back across the Atlantic 🙂

@trespire

10 ай бұрын

@@joeblow5037 NAVY paint scheme is neat and clean, seems almost space-age. A white radom with Nimitz print is a classic look. We had an RF-4 on base in a solid pale blue-gray for high altitude, same shade as our F-15C Baz air superiority squadrons. That RF had the most perfect fitting pannels I've ever seen on an F-4. With that sleek recon nose, and flying in a clean configuration, it was the most beautiful plane I've ever seen. I was told it could out pace an F-15 at high altitude. Contrary, the regular squadron flying the E's, were low down and dirty, in there with the gound clutter. Hot and heavy was, and still is, often the case with our guys in IAF gray. Long live Spook !

F-15 EAGLE 🦅 104 kills 0 losses in air-to-air combat! No other aircraft has that record! World's greatest air superiority fighter!

Forgot too mention the f-15 is also the only fighter too successfully down a space craft in 1985 when one shot down a satellite

@kenreynolds1000

10 ай бұрын

it was a test, but it had the chops.

@neweraamerica7363

13 күн бұрын

Yeah but sadly that satellite was so low in orbit compared to GLONASS that it really wouldn’t affect much.

The F-15 is the only fighter that has scored an air to air kill with a bomb, not a missile, a bomb. Also is the only fighter that has space kill, knocking down a satellite.

@oot007

9 ай бұрын

It killed an old american satellite. Does not count as a combat kill.

@Frankie5Angels150

7 ай бұрын

And the bomb thing was ridiculous and ended two careers.

@liamgriffin218

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, but it's still a cool stat@@oot007

@usa5893

5 ай бұрын

@@oot007it’s still bad ass

@oot007

5 ай бұрын

@@usa5893 it was bad ass in the 70's to late 80s. I wouldn't back it against a rooskie pilot in a Su27 and rooskie planes developed after that.

The F-14 wings are swept not for "all-weather", but depending on speed, swept at high speed, straight at low speed.

@B-A-L

7 ай бұрын

The F-14 wings are set straight for the low speed needed for carrier landings.

The Sea Harrier making this list is surprising. Nice to hear that the admission of pilot training is such a huge factor in the outcomes. We proved that ourselves in Vietnam with not great training at the start and improving it as we went along getting better numbers with the same airframes. You cannot make up for substandard training with better aircraft.

@darkaether2798

10 ай бұрын

Not really surprising, that was achieved during the Falklands war. The Argentinians had no clue, especially about the “viffing”.

@el_Contra

10 ай бұрын

@@darkaether2798 the Argentines were not looking to dogfight since they had limited fuel to go in, locate a ship, drop their bombs and return... sea harriers failed in their mission to protect british sea assets since only downed planes "after" they accomplished their bombing runs. Also, viffing is a myth.

@reluctantheist5224

10 ай бұрын

​@@el_ContraI suppose even if they did get them after dropping the bombs it stopped those same planes coming again and dropping more bombs.

@trespire

10 ай бұрын

@@darkaether2798 The Argies didn't know what hit them. Maggie pulled out all the stops. The British a polite, untill they are not !

@wadopotato33

10 ай бұрын

​@@el_ContraThey didn't accomplish much as they were soundly squashed by a military that sealed halfway around the world to deliver that whoopin'

With all due respect, including the Su-27 and the Harrier is esoteric at best, having participated as an air to air platform in too few of a conflict. The omission of the Mirage deltas is no less then appalling, with a combined IDF/AF record of 399/17 (with the 17 being more of the officialy admitted, but accepted as AA losses), and even with the Falklands losses to the SHARs and the sole Mirage 5 loss to Iranian F-14 we get a 399/28 ratio, which should give the Mirage a place in any such list.

@TJ-W

6 ай бұрын

You must be really fun at parties.

@Andrew-iv5dq

5 ай бұрын

Amen. I thought this list seemed fishy.

More impressive is the fact that most of these kills since 1953 have been made by the AIM-9 Sidewinder missile. Best aerial weapon ever produced. Even the Soviet K-13 is a reversed engineered AIM-9.

@nordoceltic7225

10 ай бұрын

The Sidewinder, made by the US Airforce's own internal development is probably the most effective missile ever made. The latest variants apparently have a 98% accuracy rating, meaning seeing one launched = certain death.

@hemendraravi4787

10 ай бұрын

@@nordoceltic7225 not really , su22 dodged aim9x.

@johnnyenglish583

10 ай бұрын

@@hemendraravi4787 where? When? Can you provide any evidence?

@Null24

10 ай бұрын

@@hemendraravi4787 hence "98%" lmao

@hemendraravi4787

10 ай бұрын

@@Null24 literally failed in its first engagement in the real world , it's also said aim9x missed the Chinese baloon and only the 2nd missile hit , but some are saying it was a 9m-10 but I'm not sur about that. All missiles are prone to failures IRL.

The Israeli air force’s Mirage 3 and Mirage 5 shot down 480 enemy A/C.

@pacus123

5 ай бұрын

Nope they didn't. It's all made up

F14 Tomcat also shot down 2 SU57 😅

@adriandanielvalidomorales6130

10 ай бұрын

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@kineticdeath

10 ай бұрын

don't think just do

@Hairysteed

10 ай бұрын

And 4 MiG-28:s 😝

@snapperface12345

10 ай бұрын

Lol, remember, Maverick used the second Su57 to completely kill the first Su57 he shot with guns. That's God tier piloting lol. 😂

@97432561

10 ай бұрын

By a pilot named maverick?

Awesome F-86 achievement. A little problem is that F-86 downed more MiG 15 than they existed there.

@alfnoakes392

10 ай бұрын

Yup, "claimed kills" are always a tad subjective ...

@pavelneuzil6457

10 ай бұрын

Certainly :-) @@alfnoakes392

@pacus123

5 ай бұрын

THIS! Same goes for the bogus F14, F15 and F16 records. There is ZERO evidence to back up their claims

The F-16 with Israeli pilots is like 130-0 in its service lifetime against Russian migs Granted, the migs are flown by Lebanese, Egyptian, and Syrian part-time cab drivers, but an impressive record none the less.

@panan7777

10 ай бұрын

Egyptian were flown by Ru pilots in 1973 war. Intercepted coms... kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKOMsq6FZ9Pflrg.html

@capt.squiggly6354

10 ай бұрын

Tbf there is no evidence to support that Russian pilots will be any better trained at this point

@stephenmitchell4393

10 ай бұрын

them part time cab drivers own the Canadian Government

@BirdiesGoCherp

10 ай бұрын

Egyptian pilots managed to hold up the best out of them. The air battle of El Mansoura supports this.

@kevinreist7718

10 ай бұрын

No wonder Russia is pissing themselves at the thought of the Ukrainian Air Force getting F-16s. Putin must be pretty worried. He might have to borrow on of tRUMP's diapers.

Them 4th generation fighters, the Eagle and Tomcat and the 4.5 gen Falcon are absolute beasts. I personally would love to fly the F-16, to me, it’s the sexiest fighter jet of all time, it’s fast, but quick and nimble for dog fighting, it can turn and burn like no other

F-22: "but... but... those Balloons!"

To IIAF data, the F14A is responsible to 176 air victories. Only 2 of these planes was confirmed shot down by Iraqi fighters one by a Mig 21MF an one by a Mirage F1Q. This is much more impressive then the F15 victory ratio, given the very poor conditions these planes were flying under, due to unavailability of spare parts and often having to fly as AWCS for other planes due to lack of missiles. I wonder why the F4 Is not included in the list either.

The harrier was never conceived by it original designers at Hawker as a maritime aircraft of any description, at the time it was developed Britain still operated aircraft carriers capable of operating fixed wing aircraft ( sea vixens, scimitars, bucaneers and the like ). These carriers were to have been replaced with more modern types flying more modern aircraft ( possibly F4 Phantoms ) but Britain was all but bankrupt and this project ended up being cancelled along with the TSR2 and Hawker P1157 supersonic Harrier projects. The F4s were purchased and served with the RAF. The only ," kill" I am aware of made by a British F4 was embarrassingly a freindly fire incident around the time of the Falklands conflict when a BAC Jaguar was shot down by a missile fired during a training mission, the pilot thankfully managed to eject safely. I think it was actually the US Marine Core who were the first to realise the full potential of the Harrier as a carrier bourne aircraft. Unbelievably as it may seem twelve months before the Falklands the British defence minister John Knott published a defence review in which it was concluded Britain no longer needed fixed wing aircraft carriers and they were to be either decomissioned or sold along with the Harriers. During the Falklands war, my father who served as a gunner in the RAF in WW2 was very anoyed with the way a section of the British media tried to portray the Argentinian Pilots in a bad light. He said, I've flown missions attacking shipping at low level while under fire from the ships and fighters and that takes a lot of skill from the pilot. I know they maybe the enemy but they are still brave men, and these reporters who say they don't know what they're are doing should give it a try themselves. The damage done to the British Fleet was bad enough and could have been considerably worse if all the bombs dropped had detonated. If Britain had not had the Sea Harriers, we could not have retaken the Falkans.

@nommadd5758

10 ай бұрын

U.S. Marine Corps (not "Core")

@16rumpole

10 ай бұрын

Your father is a true warrior. He respects his adversary.

@petefl1818

10 ай бұрын

"Unbelievably as it may seem twelve months before the Falklands the British defence minister John Knott published a defence review in which it was concluded Britain no longer needed fixed wing aircraft carriers" not so unbelievable when you know about the Conservative governments 1956 defence review which nearly destroyed Britain's aircraft industry.

@user-lt9py2pu6u

10 ай бұрын

@@nommadd5758 Sorry, my mistake, thank you for correcting me.

@TraditionalAnglican

10 ай бұрын

I knew someone who flew Sea Harriers in the Falklands. He downed 3 Argentinian fighters during the campaign. His definition of stress was landing on a pitching postage stamp inn 60’ seas!

SU27 doesn't belong on here.

Good vid👍👍👍👍👍

Those are some very impressive numbers!

The PAF F-16s which was lost in air to air warfare was lost due to friendly fire.

@narendrasatyarthi

10 ай бұрын

pakistani f-16 shot down by indian mig-21

@aamirsahi7402

10 ай бұрын

​@@narendrasatyarthi😂😂😂😂😂 Ask Abhi Nandhan really?

@aamirsahi7402

10 ай бұрын

​@@narendrasatyarthiThe Only pilot in the world who shot down a 4rth Generation fighter with his 3rd generation jet but hasn't a courage to claim by himself yet only the Indians are barking about this at least he should come up and own this brilliant kill but he will never do this because it had never been done by him.

@pacus123

5 ай бұрын

Nope. It was shot down by a Soviet Mig 23 but covered up as Pak and Soviet Union were not at war. This was covered by none other than the New York Times

Pakistan Air Force lost one F-16 to friendly fire. The only air-to-air loss of the F-16 was that of a Turkish plane to a Greek Mirage 2000.

@shabah2644

10 ай бұрын

Maybe there are rumors of PAF fighting falcons getting shot down by Soviet jets in the Soviet afghan war

@akshittripathi5403

9 ай бұрын

India also claims to have shot down an F-16 in early 2019. The claim is controversial though- I would suggest reading up independently on it rather than starting a comment war here

@chiefengineer8275

9 ай бұрын

@@akshittripathi5403 That n ever happened. Christine Fair, a known anti-Pakistan journalist, is among those who have confirmed this on an Indian forum live.

@logical1976

9 ай бұрын

​​@@chiefengineer8275F16 was downed by Mig 21. It was confirmed by Pakistanis who is anti India

@chiefengineer8275

9 ай бұрын

@@shabah2644 None In fact, the friendly fire incident became notorious because at one point, the pilot who did that became a potential candidate for the top post (never happened).

Looking forward to the WWII one as well!

In 2019 there was a conflict between Pakistan and India, one f16 was shot down by a Indian mig above Pakistani land and after that mig was shot down by another

@Savage_Viking

9 ай бұрын

Seems it didn't happen as all F-16 were accounted for after the incident. Mostly India trying to save face I imagine. I've watched their TV News broadcasts and it is absolutely ridiculous.

Besides the aircraft themselves, the training & professionalism of the pilots flying them also play a major role in the high kill ratios.

@absolutezero6423

10 ай бұрын

There are so many variables that would affect the kill ratio count of a aircraft. Maintenance, combat roles, armaments, quality of enemy pilots to name a few.

@georgealevriadis897

10 ай бұрын

In your dreams

@barneylinet6602

10 ай бұрын

I would rate the pilotage as even more important than aircraft. WWII Japanese pilots flying Zeros against a plethora of american fighters from dismal to excellent died by the score because Japan could not produce the quality of replacementw that we could.

@JasonKaler

10 ай бұрын

Exactly. Chuck Yeager said "It's the man, not the machine", and went on to prove it. He was speaking about sabre vs mig-15

@damianketcham

7 ай бұрын

Probably the primary role.

Well, forget about the Mirage III...

The film is about 70 years of air battles in which different generations of planes. If we take just one family of aircraft operated by Israel and they are delta wing fighters. Of these the historical order was Mirage 3 over 400 gun kills in three wars. Nesher; 102 confirmed kills in the Yom Kippur War alone. Half of them are missile kills. Kfir's killings are classified to this day, but it is likely that most of his killings are by missiles. The Kafir was used in the USA for a light training version F21A that simulates a MiG 25 for Top Gun. You can learn from testing one type of aircraft that in the sixties killings were carried out with guns. In the eighties most killings were carried out with missiles. Today killings can be carried out with missiles at a range above the visible range. The battle depends more Technological superiority.

@pacus123

5 ай бұрын

Absolute NONSENSE and lies.

I consider not having the Mirage III in the list is an error.

@scottgalbraith7461

10 ай бұрын

I thought so also. Seems like Mirage and Rafale make up as many air forces as F-16.

@matthewgaines10

10 ай бұрын

And what would the kill / loss ratio be for the Marage III? Thinking it was overlooked isn’t enough. Having data to Indicate it was overlooked is another. While is has some good history with Israel, it doesn’t with other operators. The Rafale isn’t even a part of this discussion because it has zero kills and zero losses. Try to be relevant.

@scottgalbraith7461

10 ай бұрын

@@matthewgaines10 are you saying that nobody can comment if they don't do the research? What kind of nazi are you?

Regarding the F14 I wonder if Pete Mitchell's 5 kills were added 😂

@Savage_Viking

9 ай бұрын

India says it never happened and that they shot down Pete Mitchell but then Mig-21 was then shot down later by other aircraft. But it all never happened except for them shooting him down.

And what about the Mirage III, called the MIG killer?

Fascinating

It should be noted that an F-15E Strike Eagle (not listed in the video) destroyed an airborne Mi-24 Hind helicopter. Its actually difficult to claim this was an air-to-air kill because...well, the Strike Eagle dropped a 2,000lb laser guided bomb on the airborne helicopter.

@ISAFSoldier

10 ай бұрын

Heeeeeh.... a GBU-24 is nowhere near as expensive as a Mi-24 Hind A bomb that costs Tens of thousands vs a helicopter that costs tens of millions. The bomb also took out the dismounts from the helo as well.

@gotmilk7926

10 ай бұрын

That must have left a mark.

@thudthud5423

10 ай бұрын

@@gotmilk7926 Eh, more like flaming confetti.

@erichammond9308

10 ай бұрын

I thought it was a 1000lb JDAM, but either way everyone on that helicopter was baloney mist.

@Juiceair77

8 ай бұрын

Wheels were off the ground…it counts. 😂 💥

I believe the 10:1 kill ratio for the F86 was corrected by a RAND report that brought it down to 1.8:1. I love the f86 and love that era of dogfighting, but 1.8:1 is more plausible once you account for the near identical nature of the 86 with the mig15, and the Honcho Soviet pilots who eventually started fighting.

@pacus123

5 ай бұрын

Well done. Someone who bothers to do some research. Same applies to the F14, F15 and F16 "records". Take them with a massive scoop of salt. If it took 50 years to debunk the F86 record ... just saying

The only loss the F15 ever had was during a simulation vs. an F22 Raptor.

@265justy

7 ай бұрын

What.!! 😂 STFU.. Aggressor F-16s nail F-15s on a daily basis. Even F-5 Tigers have.. 😂😂

Damn....those IRIAF F14s in Desert camo look so good.

Fun fact: The list of the top 230 fighter pilot aces are ALL axis power pilots. The best pilot, Erich “Bubi” Hartmann, leading the list with 352 aerial combat kills he achieved in a total of 1404 missions-he flew between October 1942 until may 1945 and was not only never shot down in this huge number of aerial battles, but he also never lost a wingman. This list of the “best fighter pilots of WW2” is extremely dominated by Nazi German fighter aces, with the top Allied pilot being Lev Shestakov with 66 kills ranks as 231. This should though be seen more as entertainment than science, so take it with a pinch of salt. As one of the main differences in aerial battle score is that German pilots (as well as Japanese) kept flying and gaining experience until they were killed themselves, while successful Allied pilots where “rewarded” by sending them home where they took over the training of young pilots and passing their skills and experience over to them.

The F-15 is the highest in the entire history of Air to air combat

What about the 5 MIG's Maverick shot down in his F-14?

@danielversion1.035

10 ай бұрын

2 were Sukhois... but you have a valid point 🤣👌

@erichammond9308

10 ай бұрын

Those were F-5's 🤣

@danielversion1.035

10 ай бұрын

@@erichammond9308 shhhhhhh 🤫😂

Too bad the MI-24 kill by the F-15E with a 2000-lb laser guided bomb wasn't added in the F-15 bullet points.

I personally would have preferred this as the title " The 5 Fighter Jets with the highest Kill-To-Loss ratios to date " . LOL

The crazy part about the f-16 helicopter kill was that it was done with a bomb not a missile. That’s crazy.

@Stubbies2003

10 ай бұрын

If the helicopter is on the ground or in a steady hover and you use a LGB not that crazy. Different yes but not crazy.

@user-fw2dd2cy3c

10 ай бұрын

That was an F-15

@Dwight511

10 ай бұрын

Wasn't that the F-15E strike eagle? Or did the F-16 do the same thing?

@thudthud5423

10 ай бұрын

The only account I've heard of was an F-15E Strike Eagle dropping a 2,000lb bomb on an airborne Mi-24 Hind helicopter. I don't really know if it would count as an air-to-air kill though...despite how cool that is.

@trespire

10 ай бұрын

We had a small library on our base, with some hand written accounts and photo albums. I read that in 1982, an Israeli F-4E Kurnass pilot, fighting the Syrians over the Bak'aa Valley, used up all the air to air missiles, and all the ammo for the nose gun. They still had fuel, and were on the tail of a Syrian jet, a Sukhoy if I remember correctly. This Kurnass pilot refused to let go even though he had no weapons left, driving the Syrian lower and lower, eventually dropping the Phantoms centerline drop tank hitting the Sukhoy's tail, causing it to crash. The Kurnass fighter pilot was made fun of by the other squadron pilots, for "letting off his load" too soon.

The F-8 Crusader's ratio was 19:3.

@neptunethedog7498

7 ай бұрын

Great plane. My Uncle ran flight deck operations on a carrier and the Crusader was his favorite. Seeing one up close is all it takes.

F15: I'm a rocket-man.

Sea Harrier 👊👊

Love the Harrier. Definitely an aircraft ahead of it's time. Thanks for another great vid!

@smgdfcmfah

10 ай бұрын

I remember watching the Falklands war every day on the news - I'd run home from school at lunch to catch the updates so I could fill in my brother when he got in. Everyone that followed such things was well aware of the Harrier, but most seemed quite surprised at just how well they performed in a dogfighting role against the powerful mirages. Turned out the Brits had some tricks up their sleeve with that directional thrust system that really played havoc on standard dog fighting techniques at the time!

@trespire

10 ай бұрын

Can still vividly recall watching on our then new colour TV, Harriers flown in anger, zig zagging in the Falklands fijords. Those pictures left a lasting impression on my young mind.

@robertbauer3419

10 ай бұрын

@@smgdfcmfah No to to steal any thunder from the Harriers or the RAF pilots during the Falklands War (Harrier is also my "favorite" plane), but it should be also noted that the RAF was given the AIM-9L Sidewinder, the latest and greatest version of the famous air-to-air missiles by the United States which were at the time years ahead and technologically years ahead of the Sidewinder AIM-9B that the Argies had (in limited quantities). In addition to some also very advanced radar systems for the Harriers also given by the Americans, the superbly trained RAF pilots were able to do what they did against the mediocrely trained bur very brave Argentinian pilots in their old (er) A-4 Skyhawks and Mirage 3's + very few Super Entendards. Once again, the RAF flyboys did an unbelievable achievement 8,000 miles away from home having just two plane carrriers as their home bases while the Argies had the entire Falklands occupied (and its airports) + the mainland Argentina was only 300 miles away. I am just not sure how exactly the things would turn out if the RAF flyboys never got the new Sidewinder missiles, new radar systems, and the satellite recoinaissance info all from Uncle Ron "5 minutes" before the conflict started. Or if the Argies also had the new AIM-9L Sidewinders and the new radar systems for their jets. Especially if they had more of the modern jets like the Super Entendards (which they had only 5 or 6) instead of the older A-4s and Mirage 3s. Or if they perhaps acquired F-14, F-15, of F-16's earlier to the conflict. In any case, maybe the things would turn out differently, maybe they would just be more bloody, but regardless personally I beleive it would still be a British victory at the end. The fighting morale of the British forces was far more superior and they all believed in the cause of liberating the Faklands and its people from the clutches of a fascist military junta dictatorship who only invaded the Falklands to keep their fat asses in power and turn the Argentinian people's attention away from the destroyed country's economy and their brutal way of running the country. The Argentinian soldiers were mostly young conscripts sent there against their will to fight for the fascist regime most didn't like to begin with, while the British forces were consisted of professional volunteer soldiers who believed in the cause and who wanted to liberate a British Territory and its people who wanted nothing to do with Argentina.

the F-15 is the only modern fighter to have an air-to-air kill with a bomb

@sauron73

10 ай бұрын

Just copying the Me109 bomb kill 😂 and with an unguided bomb.

finally got one right. it's about time.

There was an engagement with a F22 where an Iraqi pilot's duce went down into his shorts after realizing it was under him checking out his loadout before pulling up next to him.😮

@thudthud5423

10 ай бұрын

Iranian pilot. As I understand it, when the F-22s made themselves known, the American pilot told them over the radio: "You really ought to go home." In simulated combat, F-22s had a multiple kill to zero loss ratio against the big dog in this video's list - the F-15. As I understand it, the F-15s were shot down (simulated) before they could even detect the F-22s. That is the big dog meeting Godzilla. What's even more interesting is that they are planning to retire all of the F-22s and replace them with even the MORE advanced NGAD.

@capt.squiggly6354

10 ай бұрын

That's why I always love hearing about how everyone's newest top of the line plane can take on the f22, I mean it's pretty cool that you can finally match a plane that started development in the 80's

So when a Soviet or Russian fighter plane attains a great kill to loss ratio, it is because of the ineptness and lack of training of the adversary's arab airforces. However when the American platforms score extremely favourable kill to loss ratios against the same 'arab airgorces' it is the prowess of the fighters and brilliant state of the art capabilities of that platform. Great. Absolutely impartial and objective analysis😅

@szahmad2416

9 ай бұрын

To be fair, it's not like we know how well/poorly the Arab pilots were trained. Whereas, we do know the features of the American craft.

@ManishMishra-mv5fp

9 ай бұрын

@@szahmad2416 point being?

@GaionSputro

Ай бұрын

​@@ManishMishra-mv5fp I agree. Even if you give _arab_ pilot an american plane, they still SUCKZ!!!

The shoot down list for the F-15 is half of the jets made by Russia. And lest we forget the F-15 "Strike Eagle" ground attack variant. The F-15 is hands down the best of it's era. Cheers from America.

@hemendraravi4787

10 ай бұрын

ussr* , most were mig21s/mig23s ,some of them without rwrs.

Wait, WTF? Where is the IAI Nesher? It scored a total of 115 kills to only 3 losses in air-to-air combat! That's just over 38:1 - WAY better than the Saber or the Tomcat.

No mention of any IDF Mirage or Mirage variant?

Miss the F-14 Tomcat and F-4 Phantom’s ,

By definition, a ratio is the relationship between two positive numbers. Therefore, the three undefeated planes do not have K:L ratios.

@sacks7544

10 ай бұрын

thanks, not just me then

@gsmollin2

10 ай бұрын

Well, they do have L/K ratios.

@dangurtler7177

10 ай бұрын

Yes, the K:L ratio would be infinity.

@secuervo

10 ай бұрын

I am also cranky about them using "is to", which is appropriate for analogies, but not ratios.

@luiskp7173

8 ай бұрын

@@dangurtler7177Not infinity but undefined.

F16 and F14’s are beautiful planes. Sukhoi also make beautiful planes.

An SU-27 Was just shot down about a week ago.

It seams you forgot that 2 Turkish F-16 were shot down by greek mirage in 2 occasions. The first by a mirage F1 the second by a mirage2000

@mcdonnelldouglasf-4ephanto607

2 ай бұрын

The only confirmed F-16 kill is the one occured in 1996, a Hellenic Mirage 2000-5EG shot down a Turkish F-16D with a R.550 Magic II There were no F-16 losses against a Mirage F-1

The F-15 Eagle is King!

I would love to know what the Phantom's kill ratio is vs MiG-21

In the main pilot training/skill is the most important factor in near peer fights.

They should have mentioned the fact the an Israeli flown F-15 made it back to base while missing one of its wings.

@058yair

9 ай бұрын

It was during training and not in a military operation but yes

@MrMcguire89

7 ай бұрын

He didn't know until he landed too! Conformal fuel tank was ruptured in front of where the wing starts covering what would have been the wing in a mist of fuel.

@Andrew-iv5dq

5 ай бұрын

One of ITS wings. Possessive pronoun, NOT contraction meaning “it is.” Why is this bit of grammar SO hard for KZread watchers to understand?

@GUNNER67akaKelt

5 ай бұрын

@@Andrew-iv5dq Oops, you're right, of course. Fixed.

@GaionSputro

Ай бұрын

​@@GUNNER67akaKelt During training.

Very interesting video but I thought Mirage 3 and his derivative would have been in this top6.

Although the Sea Harrier was used in the Falklands, the aerial victories were all made by the RAF and their Harrier G3. Add to this the fact that the Argentine Mirage III could not aerial refuel and thus had a dwell time of about 2 minutes over the combat area. The Argentine air force for some reason, never put sidewinder missiles on their A4's, even though they were capable of using them.

The F 5 fighter was also used as the Tiger Shark to deliver nuclear weapons to Russia back in the day

Part of the reason for the lack of kills made by the Tomcat during Gulf War I, was because they were restricted to bomber escort duties. As soon as they caught sight of enemy aircraft, patrolling F-15s would take them out before the Tomcats could react. Also, Iraqi fighter pilots knew the tones of Tomcat targeting computers. As soon as they heard the tones they'd make a run for it, whilst they didn't know the tones of F-15s.

@huiyinghong3073

10 ай бұрын

What about the ME262?

@donscheid97

10 ай бұрын

I assume another reason is most war combat action is done by the AF while Navy is more a fast response force that doesn't get in wars much anymore because they are often fought over land (Falklands war being an exception but that wasn't ours). Anyone bad mouthing the Tomcat is an idiot IMO. These here are just numbers and reflect strategic use and pilot training, as well as airplane capability.

@jmcfintona999

10 ай бұрын

Surely they are recording the F14s combat record in Iranian hands where it went up against the Mig29 and others in Iraqi service

@white-dragon4424

10 ай бұрын

@@jmcfintona999 Some of the kills, like the Floggers, were made by USN Tomcats over the Gulf of Sidra.

@white-dragon4424

10 ай бұрын

@@huiyinghong3073 I don't think you'll find that there were any Me 262s in Gulf War I...

Israeli Airforce ace pilot had the most kills ever flying an F-15

You forgot to mention that in 1981, Israel used F-16s and F-15s to successfully destroy the Iraqi 'Osirak' nuclear reactor that was under construction

Mach 2+ and powerful radar still is the best combination for a air superiority fighter

Why Mirage 3 and Mirage F-1 are not in the list ?

@Werrf1

10 ай бұрын

Because they were the ones getting bitchslapped by the Harriers.

@MultiVeeta

10 ай бұрын

Mirage F1 has something like 18 kills 35 losses. Mirage iii has a lot of kills but I think also losses.

@michaelgonzales9949

10 ай бұрын

Exactly! I made a similar comment about Israelis using Mirage III's in two of their wars they had kill to loss ratios higher than anything except the F16 and 15's. @@MultiVeeta

@michaelgonzales9949

10 ай бұрын

See my comment below; with capable pilots, Israelis using Mirage III's in two of their wars had kill to loss ratios higher than anything except the F16 and 15's. Yes, their adversaries were not top notch but neither were the Argie's facing the Harriers. @@Werrf1

Early on, the mig-17 and mig-21 in Vietnam were chowing down on us fighters early on with 1+ to 2+ win to loss rate on US fighters. Especially phantoms because they did not yet have guns, and their missiles were not very effective. The MiGs also gave the navy F-8 crusaders a tough time for a while. And I believe the only air to air loss of the RA-5 Vigilante was done by a Mig-21. The Vigilante was a fast maneuverable mach 2 supersonic plane, and the MiG-21 was one of the few Soviet planes at that time that could successfully catch it.

@sponkmyers7478

10 ай бұрын

the F-4 and f-100,f-105 owned mig- 17 & Mig-21

@americanrambler4972

10 ай бұрын

@@sponkmyers7478 when you go and do a deep dive into the actual total numbers, the US fighters did not have as rosy of a picture as claimed. Yes you did have a couple of lop sided wins vs losses occasionally, but it went both ways. The US plane guys love to brag abut the wins, but tend to be rather quiet on the loses when they get their butts kicked. There are a couple of detailed publications which quite accurately record the tail numbers for the planes on both sides and even who the crews were, often with dispositions of those crew members. The reason the Red Flag and Top Gun advanced fighter training programs for the Air Force and navy pilots was because the MiGs were so successfully chowing down on US planes, generating unacceptably and shockingly high US loss rates. There was a period of time where the north Vietnamese Air Force were shooting down US planes at the same or better rates than we were shooting them down. And some of that was done with Russian and Chinese pilots at the controls, just like in the Korean War. While air to air combat losses were a relatively small percentage of the aircraft overall loses, they still were significant. The vast majority of US aircraft losses were due to anti aircraft ground gun fire and surface launched missiles. With the ground Anti Aircraft Guns accounting for the largest percentage of aircraft losses. And there were multi thousands of US aircraft lost in Vietnam. Reference for one source. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_losses_of_the_Vietnam_War

@sponkmyers7478

10 ай бұрын

@@americanrambler4972 🤣🤣🤣 sorry buddy i dont read shit from Wikipedia it's 90% wrong. I have many books on Vietnam war. You are right in the beginning of the war of Vietnam the Migs Dominated the air until the F-4s came out and pilots learn not to turn fight a MIg.

@americanrambler4972

10 ай бұрын

@@sponkmyers7478 the Wikipedia reference was not the only reference, but is a starting point. There are books like “Combat in the Sky: Airpower and the Defense of North Vietnam, 1965-1973 by Dong Sy Hung” and “Vietnam Air Losses: USAF, Navy, and Marine Corps Fixed-Wing Aircraft Losses in SE Asia 1961-1973 Hobson, Christopher”. I cannot relocate the most interesting book I did read because I found it in a used book store and I no longer have it. But it was extremely detailed and one of the best compilations of data I have seen. I have looked for that book since but failed to find it. I have also casually talked to a small number of pilots who actually flew missions in Vietnam. One was a F-105 Thunderchief pilot. I learned a lot of things from him about what went on from his experience and perspective. One example was how the F-4 phantom could not keep up with the Thunderchief’s on their strike missions because the phantom needed to intermittently use afterburner to fly at the same speeds they normally operated at without using afterburner. And they did occasionally have to deal with the north Vietnamese MiGs intruding on their missions.

@GaionSputro

Ай бұрын

When u.s.a finally release if their quality of air-to-air missile is near zero in 1960's.

First and thank you so much for these beautiful videos

I cannot believe the MiG-23 is still in service

One turkish F-16D have shot down from a Hellenic Mirage 2000 on dogfight on 1996, by one Magic 2 missile, with the lost of one of the pilots.

surely the F18 and Mirage should get an honourable mention?

@tomriley5790

10 ай бұрын

F18s were shot down in the gulf war and similarly the mirage has taken a fair beating over the years.

@MultiVeeta

10 ай бұрын

F18 has 2 kills and 1 loss to Mig25

@scottgalbraith7461

10 ай бұрын

I don't know if the F/A-18 has really been used much for combat air since it's deployment. At least not while the opportunity for action was present. I'm sure some geek here will prove me wrong, but I haven't heard any stories of F-18 air to air, just bomb runs.

The Bob Semple had the greatest kill to loss ratio of any fighter ever.

I'm thinking Mirage III is missing here only because they caught most of their adversaries on the ground in '67. Still i'm surprised they haven't made the list as per aerial kills.

It's scary to think the US air force tested their Raptors and F-35s against the top two and both can engage multiple of either 4th gen and destroy them with the limit being ordinance.

@keithfaulkner6319

10 ай бұрын

There's no point in even discussing raptors. The Democrats killed the project, they're no longer made, and when they wear out they're gone.

@JamesStreet-tp1vb

10 ай бұрын

Hell yeah, the F15 is 104-0 in dog fights. In the Red Flag games 7, F15's were sent to "kill" a single F22. The F15's performance was textbook perfect but the F22 still killed all 7, F15's. A fighter line that is undefeated loses 7 planes to a single F22. A British pilot and an Aussie pilot both said they could visually see an F22 but their fire control radar couldn't lock on. It was the same with the F15's. Their fire control radar couldn't see the F22.

@Saijansfavorites

10 ай бұрын

@@JamesStreet-tp1vb: The F22 has a radar cross-section of a freaking bumble bee. The radar systems can't really lock on to it.

@keithfaulkner6319

10 ай бұрын

Once again, the raptor is dead. The funeral just hasn't been held yet. Talk about the F-35. It is still (until the democrats kill it too) an ongoing vehicle. Unless the braindead recruits in today's military do faulty maintenance and crash them all

@Captain_Kickass-l1f

10 ай бұрын

@@JamesStreet-tp1vb man, that must be the most frustrating thing in the world when you've got an eyeball lock on your target and your targeting system can't lock onto it. I'd probably invent some new swear words.

The F86 Sabre ratios in the Korean War have become more disputed in the last couple of decades, even in the West. I’m an F86 Sabre fan but it’s known that all pilots make mistakes in battle and accurate figures from N Korea are impossible to come by.

@pacus123

7 ай бұрын

The same goes for the F15, F14 and F16 records. They're full of crap.

@BENKYism

5 ай бұрын

@@pacus123 How are they full of crap?

I am surprised the F4 never made the list

Has everyone forget that F-14 also shot down F-4 Phantom?

The F-15 is a damn legend, not only does it have an impressive win-loss ratio, it is the only fighter to ever land with just one wing. Look it up here on KZread because it shows how damn tough this jet really is.

@Bard2dbone

10 ай бұрын

An A10 did that, too.

That 104 - 0 doesn't include an air to air kill by an F-15E with a 1000lb JDAM during Desert Storm.

F22 got no mention and it shot down a balloon that was REALLY high!

Shooting down a trainer is crazy

The Saber vs the MIG was mostly due to vastly superior training

@im-a-mexican-knockedout-snorin

10 ай бұрын

And plane, including the better training America has compared to Russia or The Union at the time. Even isreal beat the russians in air

@user-gk9lg5sp4y

10 ай бұрын

@@im-a-mexican-knockedout-snorin And Israeli pilots had even better training

@gsmollin2

10 ай бұрын

The MiG-15 was a superior plane, in large part because it had a state-of-the-art British engine in it. It commonly flew well above the F-86 and dove for the kill, similar tactic to Von Richthofen.

@im-a-mexican-knockedout-snorin

10 ай бұрын

@@gsmollin2 the mig was not a superior plane, when both planes were captured both gave different reviews

@sponkmyers7478

10 ай бұрын

​​@@gsmollin2 mig was a better climber, Turner and faster at high alt. Saber was good a diving and keeping it energy and faster at Sea level If a Mig dived to the deck they would loose from a Saber unless he stupid to turn with mig.

I think the ukrainians changed the su 27's kill loss ratio, it doesnt have 0 loses now

Hilarious that the only non-American plane on this list is one which has so few kills that the man who killed Inigo Montoya's father could count them on a single hand.

@contort69

8 күн бұрын

I know right , totally bias video...do they think we didn't know that in the Korean war US fighters were constantly shot down by Russian MIGs. This video has zero credibility

The F-15 was and always be the baddest fighter ever produced.

The main factor in air to air combat is pilot skills. Secondary it is the fighter a.c. ability and equally the ordinance capability. Without superior ordinance, its is genuinely a tough job.

@abramson262

10 ай бұрын

nobody asked

@twelvestitches984

10 ай бұрын

That idea is a WW2 idea. Now it's all about stealth, radar, and missile capability. The pilot just pulls the trigger.

@philippebaron556

9 ай бұрын

MIG21 in vietnam war; 20 north vietnamese pilots were air aces with 5 to 10 kills for the best nguyen van quoc ;all on MIG21. and mirage 3 in six days war and kippour war; 50 israeli pilotes were air aces with 5 to 17 kills for the best gora epstein

The F-86 Sabre figures are interesting, and complicated. If you count all combat, then the F-86 has a roughly 10:1 kill ratio. If you count dogfights between novice North Korean and Chinese pilots, against ex-WW2 Pacific campaign veterans, the Americans scored more or less 100% kills, which you would expect. The Russian instructors were under heavy orders to avoid combat, which they mostly did. But the Russian instructors were WW2 combat vets, exactly like the Americans. They were itching to try their skills against the Americans, and occasionally they did. When those kinds of fights happened, the kill ratio was a lot more like 50 : 50. 10 : 1 is a fair record of the overall kill ratio. It's not a fair representation of the Mig 15 v the F-86. Like the Spitfire v the Bf-109, those two old enemies were very closely matched. PS: If you go back to older Buzz videos, the Bf-109 is one of the most produced fighters ever, and it has the highest kill number. Bf-109s have destroyed more than all the aircraft below #4 on the list combined, a number over 20,000. See 5:29 in kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ym1qr86HfKrffNo.html&ab_channel=AmazingViz

@wadopotato33

10 ай бұрын

Bf-109's had the most mainly because they didn't produce as many types of planes as the allies did. A new plane for the Germans meant an newer upgraded version of the 109 rather than a clean sheet design...that does not make it the best plane in any way, shape or form.

@rajeshkanungo6627

6 ай бұрын

The PAF Sabres were ineffective during the Indo-Pak war of 1971; they lost roughly 28 of them. There were also other losses/groundings because the Pakistani Air Force decided to imprison all their Bengali maintenance crew. I doubt training was an issue, as Chuck Yeager was training them.

@Kneedragon1962

6 ай бұрын

@@rajeshkanungo6627~ Good morning Raje. I wasn't aware of Yeager training the Pakistani pilots ~ I have read his autobiography and I don't recall any mention of that. As you say yourself, there were a number of factors. I would note, that the original F-86 was developed between 1946 and 1950, and it met Mig-15s over Mig Alley in 1950 ~ '51. The Indo ~ Paki war, was 20 years after that. For context, allow me to point out a dogfight that happened in the Football War of 1969, in Columbia or Honduras or some part of Central America. It saw a dogfight between a Corsair and P-51 D Mustang, which I understand was the final nation-state combat between two prop driven front-line fighters in history. (The Corsair won.) I bring that up because it's an interesting historical tid-bit, but it's not really significant and it doesn't really reflect the combat ability of either aircraft, because they were both nearly 30 years old by that point, they were both in a questionable state of repair, they were both being flown by Central American pilots who had never been in combat before. It's a bit difficult to draw good conclusions about which one was the better fighter from that.

When I started this video, it never occurred to me that I would see Iranian Air Force members getting their picture taken with Winnie the Pooh.

Very important to have the proper adversary.

Completely partial video tilting to US aircrafts. .. video has remained silent on MiG21 achievements during US-Vietnam war, India-Pakistan war in early 70s..

@worldatpeace8979

10 ай бұрын

Well is a free world 🌎 you can as well do the video of what you are saying as a proof we will watch it. I hate noise

@yomama629

10 ай бұрын

Even the most conservative estimates of US success in Vietnam War air-to-air combat is a 2:1 advantage for the US, so I don't see how the Mig-21 would make the list over the F-4

@ceko3375

10 ай бұрын

@@worldatpeace8979 "THIS IS A FREE WORLD", but you hate "NOISE".

@worldatpeace8979

10 ай бұрын

@ceko3375 Yeah because is a free world 🌎 that's why I asked you to make your own round up and stop talking shit. Beside make I remind you the world 🌎 is a free world when you are in America or Europe not in Russia. North Korea or Even China 🇨🇳 so mind you

@scottstewart5784

10 ай бұрын

It's a kill RATIO video - strictly maths. The MIG 21 could have downed 10,000 enemy jets, but if also got shot down 3,000 times, that RATIO would not make the list. RATIO.

Odd that you don't list the aircraft shot down by the Harrier in the Faulklands War- lots of propellor driven planes and helicopters

@henryblanton6992

10 ай бұрын

And A-4 Skyhawks.

@d.tim1989

10 ай бұрын

I think they shot down 4 or 5 American made Skyhawks.

@huiyinghong3073

10 ай бұрын

What about the ME262?

@user-ph8zs6xt8y

10 ай бұрын

@@huiyinghong3073 WW2 list coming later. Not heard of post WW2 Me 262 combat, but I guess it's possible somewhere on the globe though.

@servicekid7453

10 ай бұрын

The Fleet Air Arm shot down multiple Mirage IIIs and Daggers (the Israeli built version of the Mirage V) with no air to air losses. On 21st May 1982 a flight of three Daggers went up against two FRS1 Sea Harriers of 801 NAS and all three were shot down

With the F15 excellence one wonders why we're spending so much on the F35 and F22.

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