The 5XB Trouble Recorder

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Bell Labs Record Article on the Trouble Recorder: telephonecollectors.info/inde...
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Disclaimer: Mask usage is required by museum volunteers. During and after filming, we observed all possible safety precautions, including opening doors and windows, turning on blowers, and blocking off time where nobody else was in the building. The camera person was Astrid, and she and I live together. Every effort was made to film safely, and in a way that won't harm other people.
0:00 Intro
1:08 Trouble cards
2:53 History of trouble recording
6:55 Office Test Frame
8:03 How do markers know when they have trouble?
13:30 How trouble cards are punched
20:00 How we fixed the recorder

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  • @mrguyorama
    @mrguyorama Жыл бұрын

    As a software developer, I have extreme envy for the level of documentation these industrial systems have. That documentation allowed you to go from "I was afraid to break the machine" to "I fixed the machine" through careful study. Nowadays, our electrical "machines" are lucky to come with a thrown together internal Wiki that isn't even correct. You also introduced me to the Ellsworth museum, which is driving distance to me, so thank you so much for that.

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    Жыл бұрын

    If you go to Ellsworth, ask for Martin and let him know that Sarah sent you :)

  • @the_tux
    @the_tux2 жыл бұрын

    It’s crazy how much thoughts went into designing this mechanism driven purely by relay logic. That’s some really impressive engineering.

  • @EricLikness

    @EricLikness

    Жыл бұрын

    I look at this process of diagnosis and repair, and makes me think of what would have been required to design, build and operate something like Charles Babbage's Difference Engine (had it ever been built). Given this is 1922 technology, you can see things would need to be monitored, errors collected and adjustments made.

  • @ut4321
    @ut43213 жыл бұрын

    This is SO COOL! The engineers who made these analog electromechanical switches were really brilliant. Amazing that you are an expert on keeping this equipment running. Thank you for making this video!

  • @michaeltidbury4835
    @michaeltidbury48353 жыл бұрын

    An excellent video thank you. The complexity of the Trouble Recorder is amazing. I have enormous respect for the minds that created the concepts and yet, individual design features are in essence very simple. It exemplifies the distinction between complex and complicated! 1,200 error lines earthing from deep within the system and then being displayed in a meaningful form on a card is an enormous feat of design, engineering and wiring. Thank you for explaining the entire machine with such simple clarity. This has been one of my favourite presentations. The cinematography also continues to improve. 😍😍

  • @jrmcferren
    @jrmcferren3 жыл бұрын

    You may want to show one of the techniques to trace harassing calls. The recipient of harassing calls would be instructed to keep a log of the date and time of all incoming calls (including the harassing ones). The switch is then set up in such a way that every call to the recipient's line drops a card. Once a harassing call was received the log from the recipient is then compared to the cards dropped. The harassing call's card is then used to trace the call. Compare this to a step-by-step office where the call trace would have to be initiated by busying out the recipient's line before the call ended, then traced back through the switch from the connector, through the selectors, all the way to the line finder.

  • @johnholmes6868
    @johnholmes68683 жыл бұрын

    Decades ago, we were getting prank phone calls that went on at all hours. Our phone number was on a #5 crossbar switch. Pacific Telephone put a "trap" on our phone line that essentially traced the call, just like you showed on here. The person doing the prank calls seemed to know he was caught, as he calmly said, "Impressive. You got me. Your ringtone sounded funky on the first ring. It dropped a card on me, I just know it." We had two separate phone lines at the time, and I later called from one phone number to the other and listened to see what he was talking about, and he was right. There was weird timber to the first ringtone (heard on the callers side), and then the rest sounded normal. Anyone know why this would have been noticed by the calling party? I'm sure it had to do with the trouble recorder being used to trace the call, but never could figure out why that would happen. Turned out the prank caller was quite sophisticated and according to telco security was "tandem stacking" to avoid getting caught. They only were able to trace it to the local tandem switch and that's where it was lost. Oddly, he never called again once he knew the trap was on there. That was circa 1982.

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd have to test this to be sure, but my scientific wild ass guess would be: The marker drops the card as the last thing it does before releasing. This means that the marker would connect both halves of the linkage, set up the ringing switch in the trunk, then drop the card and release. It could be possible that the caller was hearing ringback while the marker was still attached to the trunk and generating the card, and something about that sounded different. This might be a little hard to test, because we don't know exactly which trunk circuits the office was using, and what type of markers they were using.

  • @johnholmes6868

    @johnholmes6868

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ConnectionsMuseum Awesome! Thank you so much for that information. I've waited 39-years for that, LOL!

  • @michaelrees1376

    @michaelrees1376

    Жыл бұрын

    It's been 35 years but I found myself quickly reading the cards you displayed. The missing 2 out of 5 punch was easy since the marker obviously didn't get very far and another one failed at the JXPA/LXPA/SL phase. You didn't show the dreaded turnover card. That usually meant that someone dropped a wire scrap in a number group or translator. Where I worked (Bell Canada) we had only one technician that did routine maintenance on trouble recorders, no one else touched them. While he was working it was stressful for me as a troubleman. The recorder was the only thing that told me how "my" switch was feeling that day. Amazing, at 61 years old I can't remember what I had for breakfast today but I can still remember how to read a crossbar card.

  • @DJSubAir

    @DJSubAir

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@michaelrees1376wow your amazing! Thanks for the comment loved reading it knowing that in those CO's good minds were at work!

  • @rosssilverwood6276

    @rosssilverwood6276

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes,!!!

  • @Pants4096
    @Pants40963 жыл бұрын

    This made me wonder just how many (hundreds of?) thousands of trouble cards were generated by just a handful of phone phreaks exploring the network in the 70s and 80s.

  • @jeffdobkin9478

    @jeffdobkin9478

    3 жыл бұрын

    I used to drop a bunch of cards intentionally, then a day or so later, go to the C/O and fish them out of the rubbish. Some of the BSPs I had taught me a lot about the card machine.

  • @andrelange9877

    @andrelange9877

    2 жыл бұрын

    And how many kids playing with the hook switch and dialing random numbers?

  • @rosssilverwood6276

    @rosssilverwood6276

    4 ай бұрын

    That would be me

  • @AlexisKasperavicius
    @AlexisKasperavicius3 жыл бұрын

    For new cards: Have a vector trace of the existing cards made. There is new printing technology which can print and laser cut the cards to shape with notches, etc. so you can order as many as you want.

  • @thesteelrodent1796

    @thesteelrodent1796

    Жыл бұрын

    the cheaper way if you need a lot of cards is to have a professional printer make a stencil so they can print and punch out the cards, the way they're supposed to be made - and if you have a few thousand made it is by far the cheapest method. Most printers require you to order at least a thousand (some places more) before they'll accept an order that require a stencil, but it can be done. Laser cut is fine if you only need a dozen or two cards, but it quickly becomes very expensive (and thus unfeasible for a museum run by volunteers) when you're into hundreds or thousands of cards, and it is very time consuming compared to a proper printing press. Plus laser cut card stock doesn't have the perfect smooth edges you need for these old machines, so they would likely be useless. And by professional printer I mean an actual printer with rotary presses, not one of those shops that set up an oversized laser printer and claim to be a printer

  • @binaryguru

    @binaryguru

    11 ай бұрын

    The type of paper and thickness of the paper are critical for making them work in the machine. No company makes that kind of paper anymore so it would have to be special ordered just for this purpose. Punch card paper is special!

  • @AlexisKasperavicius

    @AlexisKasperavicius

    11 ай бұрын

    @@binaryguru I didn't know that! I remember the paper being a particularly stiff and thin card stock, but never considered it was no longer manufactured. Do you have any reference to a group or something that discusses this? I like research projects like this and have a sneaking suspicion that someone, somewhere in the world could make it, but don't know how I would find the people who still need it for various projects if I could get it organized. is there a board, group, or something for people with this equipment?

  • @Platypi007
    @Platypi007 Жыл бұрын

    I am always in awe that people designed, built, and maintained these amazing complex machines. Also amazed at the amount of work you put in to keep them running or get them running for a museum! Thanks for your commitment to preserving this bit of history.

  • @haroldsmith45302
    @haroldsmith453023 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your dedicated attention to the health of this extremely intricate and irreplaceable cross bar switch system. Your video was well presented and clearly explained. Well done, Sarah!

  • @MachiningandMicrowaves
    @MachiningandMicrowaves Жыл бұрын

    I love making new parts and refurbishing old ones for mechanisms like this. Fabulous to see the inner workings of the exchange equipment I used to work with back in the 70s. Splendid video

  • @thrillscience
    @thrillscience3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tour! I'd love visit your museum someday. This was a great explanation of how this all worked.

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @ds99
    @ds993 жыл бұрын

    How brave of you to fix the broken trouble recorder. It certainly paid off. That recorder is also very mechanical like the phone system. What blows my mind is that the phone exchange knows every piece of equipment a call is sent to and that information is then punched onto cards if a problem is encountered. How complex of a mechanical machine this is. I guess this sort of information would be useful for tracing numbers of someone making bomb threats or other threatening calls. You really need to have a broad understanding of the whole system to piece this together. Thanks again for another great educational video. Super fantastic.

  • @PilotInCommand777
    @PilotInCommand777 Жыл бұрын

    My Dad worked in the industry when these were still in use. As a child I fondly remember when my dad would bring home defective panels and components for me to play with and disassemble. I had disassembled some part he had gave me and thousands of the little paper punches fell out and my dad told me that the small paper dots were called "paper chads". Don't know why, but I always remembered that. Thanks for your videos. They bring me back to my childhood and give me a very warm feeling.

  • @SharpForceTrauma

    @SharpForceTrauma

    Жыл бұрын

    Dotcels seething over paperchads

  • @roylamkin7177
    @roylamkin71773 жыл бұрын

    It was sooo kool to see an old Panel trouble ticket, made my day!

  • @user-hj7ls3lm3x
    @user-hj7ls3lm3x3 жыл бұрын

    Awesomely explained Sarah, thanks for sharing and all the lovely work you do. It's lovely to be able to follow all of the Museum's endeavors from the other side of the world :-D

  • @RickTashma

    @RickTashma

    Жыл бұрын

    Ditto, Sarah! Nicely done vid and explanation. Bloody amazing tech!

  • @cockula776
    @cockula776 Жыл бұрын

    Sarah, first off thank you sooooo much for these videos! I came across phone phreaking by complete accident, and then found Evan Doorbell's amazing recordings. I know the lingo and what happens on the caller end, but seeing it from the equipment end while you explain it is what I've been looking for! The infrastructure and intricacies on how these switches work is just amazing! Thank you again!! 😊

  • @gharycrawford6628
    @gharycrawford66282 жыл бұрын

    I worked for Bell Canada on a 4AXB Toll Switch and became very good at fixing and maintaining our trouble recorder . (Nobody else wanted the job as it was very tedious and time consuming and they didn't have the patience for it)

  • @t13fox67
    @t13fox673 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. I worked SxS cama in the late 70's and early 80's. Our trouble recorder had the yellow roll of paper type. I once had a trunk that would drop a trouble ticket with no apparent reason for years. After I used a automatic test set, (the one with the pegs to program telco no's), I noticed the cama inc. Trunk was having issues with call abandonment. After utilizing the test frame and reading the sequence drawing for the trunk and cama sender, I found a wiring error. Those are the days I miss--- the good ole Bell System. Wished I could have worked panel and crossbar. Anyways, thank you so much. Very interesting.

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    3 жыл бұрын

    We just got our paper tape trouble ticketer working in the No.1 Crossbar. In our machine it handles trouble tickets for ANI/CAMA.

  • @t13fox67

    @t13fox67

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ConnectionsMuseum excellent. Hope you will make a video on this.

  • @andrewc.2952
    @andrewc.29523 ай бұрын

    I literally can't get enough of this. Great commentary too, good job hon.

  • @toresbe
    @toresbe3 жыл бұрын

    What a well-produced video. I especially loved the slo-mo parts. Kudos! Looking forward to the next time I can visit Seattle.

  • @steve94044
    @steve940443 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I always loved hearing the dial tone from a #5 crossbar CO. I was once in the central office on Mother’s day in 1972. Lots of switching sounds!

  • @Hicken65
    @Hicken653 жыл бұрын

    This is an exceptionally great video.Beautifully filmed, edited and explained. Well done, Sarah!

  • @gutsngorrrr
    @gutsngorrrr8 ай бұрын

    Absolutely love seeing these complex elctro mechanical systems and its great seeing these being kept alive.

  • @bboogaar
    @bboogaar3 жыл бұрын

    I repaired a few Northern Electric #5 Crossbar trouble recorders when I worked in those offices over 40 years ago now. They were exactly the same as the Western Electric one you have there.

  • @verybusy8728

    @verybusy8728

    Жыл бұрын

    Those where the good days on the seventh floor

  • @bboogaar

    @bboogaar

    Жыл бұрын

    @@verybusy8728 And Elbow Park, Huntingdon Hills, Bonavista, and even for a short while in Peace River.

  • @Srinathji_Das
    @Srinathji_Das Жыл бұрын

    Excellent explanation of a very complicated machine! I love the work you do! A+ 👍👍

  • @kriskehrer6410
    @kriskehrer6410 Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely loved the "Oh, hi!" intro. It made me literally laugh out loud. Well done!

  • @thecooldude9999
    @thecooldude99993 жыл бұрын

    That was an awesome video! I was playing along with my own trouble recorder card at home. Mine has the “turn over” box punched and not so many holes in it, I wonder what kind of trouble it was? Looking forward to more videos!

  • @ome3rd
    @ome3rd3 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos! I miss my #5 XBAR days.

  • @dapperdave2090
    @dapperdave2090 Жыл бұрын

    I'm in total amazement of the Engineering abilities of Bell Labs and the manufacturing capabilities of Western Electric. 👍😎👍

  • @llantup
    @llantup3 жыл бұрын

    Yours looks like a fun job, and you seem to really enjoy it! I 'd love to have a job like that.

  • @Duddie82
    @Duddie82 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!, I am a new person to this video. I love learning how the old equipment worked back in the days of punching cards. where many ladies mostly worked to put calls through.

  • @jackaustin3576
    @jackaustin35763 жыл бұрын

    I hired on with Southern Bell in 1962. I worked step, number 5 crossbar and electronic toll in 38 years. I liked and enjoyed working number 5 crossbar the best. Are there and 5X bar offices left in the USA. Today I taught my Great grand daughter age 16 how to use a dial phone. 1919 brass candle stick phone.

  • @joe72205
    @joe722053 жыл бұрын

    awesome! Operation of the marker has always been a “gap” in explanations of old phone equipment so this is great!!!

  • @BR218fan
    @BR218fan Жыл бұрын

    I wonder, if old telephone exchange machinery like this could be the most complex electromechanical devices ever built? 🙈 It is absolutely mindblowing, how all of this works and how people solved technical problems back then! And also it is awsome that you were able to fix this card punching device, Sarah! Keep up the great work of showing people all of this technology! Greetings! 😊

  • @antronargaiv3283

    @antronargaiv3283

    Жыл бұрын

    The IBM Accounting machines (402, 403, 407...) were relay logic. Not as many relays as the switch in this video though.

  • @jeffnisewanger8260
    @jeffnisewanger82603 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Thanks!

  • @daynejordan6783
    @daynejordan6783 Жыл бұрын

    All i can say is... wow. I would think building a 3ess/5ess wouldve been on an order of magnitude easier than all the mechanical components. Kudos to those who engineered AND built these.. AND those who continue to keep them running, Sara.. wow.. just wow, the level of your understanding is epic. My hat's off.....

  • @DandyDon1
    @DandyDon13 жыл бұрын

    Who would have known the Trouble Recorder can write in "loose script" notes in the left/right side margins ;)

  • @tarstakars
    @tarstakars2 ай бұрын

    Holy cow, it's like describing the depths of the Krell technology. 🤯

  • @SO_DIGITAL
    @SO_DIGITAL Жыл бұрын

    This is fascinating. You explain so well.

  • @adamantturner5019
    @adamantturner5019 Жыл бұрын

    I'm amazed how someone who is so young could have knowledge of older switching equipment. I find you to a very interesting individual. Keep up the good work and look forward to watching your other videos.

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @k7iq
    @k7iq3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome explanations !

  • @HappyDiscoDeath
    @HappyDiscoDeath2 жыл бұрын

    2:15 is that keypad in a sense a Silver box? Basically, all the standard DTMF tones plus A, B, C, and D?

  • @TooManyHobbiesJeremy
    @TooManyHobbiesJeremy3 жыл бұрын

    Nice job getting this machine working!

  • @jxh02
    @jxh02 Жыл бұрын

    Strong family resemblance to a Teletype (of course) and even a keypunch machine of the era. A very nice exposition. Lovely diagrams!

  • @mjpbase1
    @mjpbase13 жыл бұрын

    Sara, of all the museum curators in the world, you are my favorite. Yes, I think I understand the concepts you're explaining but . . . when I consider the fraction of a second mechanical timing and logic and other analog intricacies of what may be the pinnacle of 20th century information technology. . . I get a little lost in it all. Human brilliance is more clearly demonstrated here than with computers. The engineers of the 'Greatest Generation' made neat stuff, didn't they?

  • @n7275
    @n7275 Жыл бұрын

    I just discovered this channel. This is soo cool!

  • @JamesHalfHorse
    @JamesHalfHorse3 жыл бұрын

    I love the tester with the nixie tubes. I have built a few clocks with them in it. It just amazes me how everything was done mechanically. I would think a good print shop could make the cards but you would probably need to devise some sort of punch jig to put the proper holes in them. Is there any history on how bell made the cards or if it was farmed out to other companies that might still have the equipment? I would guess in its hay day they had to be able to produce massive amounts of them all over the world.

  • @saffr3218
    @saffr32185 ай бұрын

    Absolutely mind blowing. Insanely awesome.

  • @kenunix1863
    @kenunix18633 жыл бұрын

    Sarah GOOD video. Where do you get blank cards these days? Those cards always reminded me of IBM punch cards. ()()()

  • @rpriesol

    @rpriesol

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just watch the whole video (or at least the last 1,5 minutes of it) and you will figure it out :)

  • @kenunix1863

    @kenunix1863

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rpriesol Thanks.

  • @5cyndi
    @5cyndi Жыл бұрын

    I love the analogy of the stack trace!

  • @ClassicalRips
    @ClassicalRips3 жыл бұрын

    You make some truly fantastic videos! I have always wondered how the billing of calls happened with these systems, have you ever made a video about how that works? If not, could you make a video about how calls are recorded and billed?

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    3 жыл бұрын

    A billing video is on our list for sure. Just want to get the billing mechanism working in the 5XB first, so that we can talk about it.

  • @shaunbarton-collins1180
    @shaunbarton-collins11803 жыл бұрын

    Thanks once again, enjoyed this video

  • @cranshaaft
    @cranshaaft Жыл бұрын

    I worked a a switchman on #5 xbar in the 1970's for about 4 years....thank gawd I never any problems on the trouble recorder.....all the trouble cards punched were taken to the recycle joint and paid for our coffee fund....

  • @georgegonzalez2476
    @georgegonzalez2476 Жыл бұрын

    It’s awesome to think of all the labor and cost of these huge devices. Ma Bell was limited by law to a certain small profit margin but the office seems like a quite deluxe implementation.

  • @jeffdobkin9478
    @jeffdobkin94783 жыл бұрын

    Great video with a lot of detail. I remember intentionally dropping cards by flashing the switchhook 11 times for the last digit and this would punch 3 out of 5 (as a digit 11). Dialing A, B, C or D with a 16 button touchtone keypad would do the same thing. Another way was to dial something that caused "no route" trouble such as 0+ringback number. Dial administration didn't consider that someone might try to call the ringback number through TSPS (which would be impossible anyway). To get more blank cards, you might consult with a printing company. I know they can get blank card stock, cut it to size and laser print on it but the hard part is the little notches and holes which would require a custom punch. The cost of setting this up would be high but you could order in a large quantity to justify the cost. Something else I thought of is a "virtual machine". A computer that would interface with the card machine and display a virtual image of the card, or just the raw date. Not as fun though.

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the suggestions! Yeah, we are looking into getting some cards printed, and it seems like the tooling setup would be the majority of the cost. The difficulty with the tooling is that the notches and cutout dimensions are critical, so it would have to be pretty darn close. The 5XB also has a computerized card function built right in. In the late 1970s, as offices were staffed less and less, they wanted to centralize all of the maintenance facilities, so they built an adjunct to the trouble recorder called the MDT/PROCON. It sends trouble indications to a centralized PDP-11 with a bunch of modems attached to it. Ours worked, sort of, but then it died, and we don't have the maintenance tools for it.

  • @jeffdobkin9478

    @jeffdobkin9478

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ConnectionsMuseum I was thinking the same thing, the tooling setup for the notches and cutouts would be critical. Even variations in card stock could cause problems. I can remember when they did more centralized maintenance. In the East Bay area of California, they had one C/O that took care of maintenance and trouble indications from surrounding C/Os would be reported to the central one. I could tell when the trouble recorder was taken offline because when it would drop a card, it would normally freeze a line for about 7 seconds (3.5 seconds per trial). When offline, the line was frozen for only about a second or two before getting reorder. You can hear a little "tick" in between the first and second trial. I also remember some mini computers being used on #5 crossbar in the early 1980s. One had a prompt "MONITOR RUNNING STATE REQUEST" which I think let you look at battery voltages and a few other things. CAROT was another mini computer for automated trunk transmission testing. If the adjunct to the trouble recorder used a serial port (would be serial if modems were used), then it would be easy to interface that to USB port on a laptop and write a program to handle the data.

  • @charlesfiore7835
    @charlesfiore7835 Жыл бұрын

    On the first Trouble Recorder with the bad shaft,You should be able to remove with the gear and have the shaft made by a machinist or to a good auto rebuilder if it can be repaired. Those are pretty complicated for the day. I grew up with classic cars and power equipment which was easy for me to understand.

  • @iridiumcaptain
    @iridiumcaptain Жыл бұрын

    That's cool as shit and it's just astonishing that folks came up with something like this, built it, and then used it for years. So cool.

  • @allthegearnoidea6752
    @allthegearnoidea67523 жыл бұрын

    Nice restoration project thanks for sharing. Regards Chris

  • @lucagatti1
    @lucagatti1 Жыл бұрын

    So, KZread algorithm decided that there was a connection between modular Eurorack, vintage synths and old telephone exchanges...hell yeah! there is, well done KZread. I spent the last three hours watching your videos. Incredible passion, fantastic knowledge. What an awesome reminder of the genius hidden inside each human being...well at least most human beings... ☎

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much

  • @morrisflory1936
    @morrisflory19362 жыл бұрын

    Worked 4A Card Translator, some of the systems mentioned are similar.

  • @maryjaneevadiamond6359
    @maryjaneevadiamond6359 Жыл бұрын

    RIP ma bell. I'm so old this stuff makes sense.

  • @davida1hiwaaynet
    @davida1hiwaaynet Жыл бұрын

    Very cool and amazing machinery! I really enjoy your videos about this old phone equipment. I can only imagine the challenges with having a "diagnostic" system with this many moving parts. It would be somewhat hard to know if the diagnostic system its self was having problems, or if it was indicating a system problem! I have a great desire to save and restore other vintage industrial and refrigeration equipment, which seems to be a very niche interest. My real job is commissioning the current version of what I love to restore. I would expect that your day-job is related to this industry? Regardless, please keep up the videos.

  • @Tech-NO-City
    @Tech-NO-City3 жыл бұрын

    What about phone phreakers and the countermeasures? QT

  • @NikHYTWP
    @NikHYTWP3 жыл бұрын

    Would it be possible for you guys to have an outside line connect to the Crossbar like sxsphil does with his Step system? Dial it to get dial tone and then have a few numbers available going to busy signals/an announcing machine or some other interesting sounding intercepts? Maybe even have one that goes to an actual phone in the museum so if any of the volunteers or eventual visitors are in the mood can pick up and talk to random people? I'm in Europe so that coupled with the pandemic means I won't be able to come in person any time soon and I'm sure many other people would really enjoy being able to use the electromechanical switches remotely. Kind of like a remote museum visit :)

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, you can call in via CNET or NPSTN to either of our crossbars. See their directories for our DISA numbers. Visit witch.spmh.us/disa for a list of fun numbers to call.

  • @brucekempf4648

    @brucekempf4648

    Жыл бұрын

    There a really cool app for the iPhone called Phonal Tonal that will give you all the MF tones, ring tones, dial tones, etc. I miss the days of phone freaking and loop lines.

  • @TheDivergentDrummer
    @TheDivergentDrummer Жыл бұрын

    You mentioned that decoders have "translations". Can you explain how that works? I am genuinely curious.

  • @sysmatt
    @sysmatt3 жыл бұрын

    Love it! But you didnt show us the chad hopper where all the punched bits go. ;-) I restored a asr33 teletype once and it was FULL of paper dots all gunked into every cranny. Thanks for the great vids!

  • @thesmallterror
    @thesmallterror3 жыл бұрын

    Do you know why the choice was made to make the debug bus parallel? Why wasn't an approach similar to JTAG or Boundary Scan used where each relay has shift-in and shift-out ports, relays are wired in daisy-chain fashion, and the debug status is shifted out one relay at a time? Did the designers really not mind huge 1000+ bundles of wires snaking all over the frame? That seems like it would be much more susceptible to installation error. Assuming a different type of card puncher, this also could have greatly simplified the relays and circuitry required to punch a card (e.g. no latching or less latching required)?

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    3 жыл бұрын

    Data flow in electromechanical switches is generally parallel. Relays don't move fast enough to pump 1200 bits serially without taking a long time. In addition, the extra logic required to do a serial shift-thing would take many more relays, which are expensive, but the parallel approach means that we can just pick up signals where we need them and carry them across the room. It seems like a lot from a modern perspective, but in a telephone switch, 1000+ wires is not that big of a deal. It’s just how things were done. In a normal central office like this, it would be commonplace to have hundreds of thousands or millions of individual wires. Their installation forces were highly skilled workers and before the job was done, a complete set of acceptance tests had to be performed, which ensured that each individual function of the machine was working to specification. It’s all part of what makes these machines so impressive! These designers were extremely good at designing insanely complex relay circuits and making them ultra reliable. Systems like this are where the concept of 99.999% uptime originated.

  • @thesmallterror

    @thesmallterror

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ConnectionsMuseum Thank you for the insight!

  • @joeblow8593
    @joeblow85933 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sarah

  • @therealdebater
    @therealdebater Жыл бұрын

    10:32 This sort of thing (the final 7 bit) is often called a 'sentinel value' in computing.

  • @TheSTERNFANATIC
    @TheSTERNFANATIC Жыл бұрын

    I have a question. What if a subscriber wants to change his number? How is that done? I love your video’s. Excellence !

  • @josephaltman460
    @josephaltman460 Жыл бұрын

    5:29 Were they originally elevator buttons or telephone exchange buttons?

  • @s3vR3x
    @s3vR3x3 жыл бұрын

    yayyyy! new post!

  • @stevekoehn1675
    @stevekoehn1675 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing!

  • @thunderdrums6551
    @thunderdrums65512 жыл бұрын

    You are the smartest person on Earth! Awesome video

  • @mfbfreak
    @mfbfreak Жыл бұрын

    I love the name 'Trouble Recorder'. Kinda sounds like something that belongs in a children's cartoon where it starts spitting out cards at a rapid tempo, hitting the protagonist in their face.

  • @morrisflory1046
    @morrisflory1046 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video. Similar to 4A CT

  • @prestonwoodelectronics
    @prestonwoodelectronics Жыл бұрын

    do you use all this for your actual calls, or do you use something like a VoIP System? also you have a tiktok?

  • @Stache987
    @Stache987 Жыл бұрын

    Sarah 😊... Got a idea, instead of the nuisance of printing expense of replacement trouble cards, make a transparency to overlay a punched yet unprinted card. Thats all.. ;p

  • @bradyobrien3428
    @bradyobrien34283 жыл бұрын

    And here I am trying to figure out the relays on my sxs connector switch

  • @wrtlpfmpf
    @wrtlpfmpf2 жыл бұрын

    For the cards I'd just look at the nearest printshop. They will at least be able to point you to the right direction. It shouldn't be to hard to get something like that printed, and as for paper properties they will likely be able to send you some stock of paper that's simmilar to the one in use.

  • @thewhitefalcon8539
    @thewhitefalcon8539 Жыл бұрын

    Digits always end in a 7 you say? That explains one of Evan Doorbell's observations in his phreaking narration...

  • @wackyvorlon
    @wackyvorlon Жыл бұрын

    This is such a cool machine.

  • @RampancyIncorporated
    @RampancyIncorporated4 ай бұрын

    Lightning has struck my brain and generated a weird question: Does running a test on the MTF seize the customer endpoint equipment, or does it limit on either end to just telco side, or is that an option you can set on the MTF panel?

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    4 ай бұрын

    You can choose via a key on the test panel.

  • @disgruntledgoat
    @disgruntledgoat3 жыл бұрын

    Given the complexity of it, I assume there is a Trouble Recorder for the Trouble Recorder 😁

  • @uplinktruck
    @uplinktruck Жыл бұрын

    Well explained. Good job. You must have been a CO doctor in a past life. You don't have near enough gray hair to know all that.

  • @OverKillPlusOne
    @OverKillPlusOne3 жыл бұрын

    I've never used them but smartpress has what they call digital laser cutting. They may be able to accommodate your cuts. Another option would be to contact b something like Boise cascade corrugated or Volm Corporation.

  • @OverKillPlusOne

    @OverKillPlusOne

    3 жыл бұрын

    For BC/Volm there may be substantial fees to create the dies...I then again you might get surprised and find out who made them originally and they've still got them in a warehouse....I don't hardly know where to start but there might be clues on or in those boxes you've got as to whom had the original cutting dies

  • @scottholland8499
    @scottholland84993 жыл бұрын

    Could you please do a video on how billing was handled? How were the calls recorded and charged to customers?

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, definitely. That's actually on my list, but I really want to get billing working in the 5XB in order to show it in the video. It's really cool, but its going to take a few more months of work before its ready.

  • @scottholland8499

    @scottholland8499

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ConnectionsMuseum awesome, thank you. These videos are so interesting

  • @mackfisher4487
    @mackfisher44873 жыл бұрын

    Is this what happened in the 2000 presidential election with hanging chads? Kidding aside this electromechanical recorder is incredible now if I watch your well done video a few more times I’ll start to understand.

  • @PINKBOY1006
    @PINKBOY10062 жыл бұрын

    How many calls per oil change do you get? :-‘P

  • @rosssilverwood6276
    @rosssilverwood62764 ай бұрын

    Can anybody comment? I was an ex crossbar 5 phreaker from many decades ago. In my collection I have both single-sided and double-sided trouble ticket cards, are the different cards dependent on the type of setup in a particular office, ie, the single-sided cards used in smaller, less complex crossbar 5 offices, and the double-sided card in larger offices with many Centrex cx's? Or, otherwise, is the single-sided card always the incorrect card, because you want to be using the double-sided card, or were they from different offices.?

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    4 ай бұрын

    There were several generations of cards. The first ones were all single-sided. Later they added double-sided to more complex offices. One of the main factors that contributed to an office using double-sided cards was if it had LAMA capability--that is, local billing for long distance calls. If the billing hardware was in the tandem office, the 5XB did not need the extra data points provided by two-sided cards.

  • @rosssilverwood6276

    @rosssilverwood6276

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@ConnectionsMuseum : Thank you for the speedy reply. I find your videos educational, informative and very entertaining. I continue to watch the "troubleshooting problems in #1 crossbar office" over and over again. I would enjoy seeing more crossbar 5 videos, if possible. Because that's the type that was in use in the Maryland area where I grew up, when I did my phreaking as a teenager. I realize that doing a video about a number 5 crossbar marker would be quite boring, as it is basically a huge collection of multi contact relays, but that stuff really interests me. ROCK ON, SARAH!!!! Keep up the great work 💪!

  • @ejonesss
    @ejonesss Жыл бұрын

    with todays 3d printers and lathes you could make new parts for the recorder. you maybe able to call up a ticket factory (a factory that makes event tickets, lunch tickets for schools and arcade tickets for arcades that use tickets that are used as points for buying prizes at the arcade's shop) and ask them to make you new cards. or if the card punches are not pre scored you can just feed blank card stock say cut from food boxes and make your own punch cards.

  • @GeoNeilUK
    @GeoNeilUK2 жыл бұрын

    The secret life of telephone exchanges! I'd be very surprise3d if Tim Hunkin isn't a personal hero to you!

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    2 жыл бұрын

    Heck yeah, I love The Secret Life of Machines. That and "Connections" by James Burke, are awesome to watch :)

  • @SteelHorseRider74
    @SteelHorseRider743 жыл бұрын

    ...imagine you would have to regularly 'change the oil' on todays network/voip switch equipment... o-m-g ^_^

  • @SuperSmokinmonkey
    @SuperSmokinmonkey3 жыл бұрын

    Now I feel old for listening to our neighbors calls on our party line in da' day

  • @conductorretired7153
    @conductorretired7153 Жыл бұрын

    Its fun to watch what I read about in the 1980s to know I have knowledge that only I can be glad I know . This was truly the age of hands on equipment. Today's systems are just not as fascinating to even watch cause there isn't anything to watch. Semi conductors are nothing like where we started with. This is a classic time of ALL COPPER WIRE USE THAT WILL NEVER BE THE SAME

  • @greggv8
    @greggv8 Жыл бұрын

    How were calls traced in the era of mechanical switching?

  • @ConnectionsMuseum

    @ConnectionsMuseum

    Жыл бұрын

    That is a very complex question, but the basic idea is that they had to hold up the connection, and then manually trace each switching point within the office (or offices) to see what it was connected to, until they were able to trace out the entire path of the call. There was no database or computer to answer that question for you.

  • @greggv8

    @greggv8

    Жыл бұрын

    @ConnectionsMuseum that's what is so silly about more recent TV shows and movies when it comes to tracing calls. It's been possible to instantly find where a call originates since the 90's, especially when the destination number is being monitored. Triangulation of cell phones has also been available for a long time. Yet police procedural shows like the Hawaii Five-0 reboot flip flop between instantly locating a landline phone and tracking moving cell phones and the old "wasn't on long enough to trace the call".

  • @everykenyan
    @everykenyan2 жыл бұрын

    Oh my, this is way above me

  • @Dallas-Rife-UDX-347-Tennessee
    @Dallas-Rife-UDX-347-Tennessee Жыл бұрын

    Please tell me these things aren’t still in use today 😳??

  • @amare65
    @amare653 жыл бұрын

    Can you still place a phone call utilizing these marvelous mechanical monstrosities?

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