The 5x5 Texas Method program review [science]

The 5x5 Texas Method popularized by Mark Rippetoe is legendary, but does it actually live up to the hype? In this video, I review the 5x5 Texas Method program based on modern exercise science to see if it's optimal for strength development or muscle growth, and if so, whom it's ideal for. My goal of this series will be to help you look at training programming in a logical, evidence-based manner.
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0:00 Introduction
0:27 Who is this program for
0:48 Is it for strength or size?
1:23 Morphological and neurological adaptations
2:28 Structure of the program
2:49 5x5 Structure
3:56 First day of the program: Monday
4:27 Observation 1. Work capacity and intensity rep relationship
5:16 Observation 2. About the rest interval prescription (or lack thereof)
6:06 Observation 3. On the volume unbalance
6:30 The Deadlift
8:49 Assistance exercises
9:49 Second day of the program: Wednesday
9:51 Exercise 1: Squats
10:12 Exercise 2: Overhead press/ Bench press
11:07 Exercise 3: Chin-ups
11:16 Exercise 4: Back extensions or glute-ham raises
11:24 Why this workout seems arbitrary
13:43 Observations on the day's structure
14:51 Third day: Friday
14:48 Should you do Olympic lifts at all
16:49 What I like and what I dislike about the program
16:52: What I like: Structure
17:26 What I like: progressive overload
17:44 What I dislike: specifics of the structure
20:36 What I dislike: almost exclusively low rep work
22:46 Conclusion
23:41 Future strength training program reviews

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  • @user-wt4mr7lz5g
    @user-wt4mr7lz5g Жыл бұрын

    I love the new approach. Hopefully 10*10 German volume training and Gironda's 8*8 programs will be reviewed soon. Thank you, Menno.

  • @VeNeRaGe
    @VeNeRaGe Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video. What would be great would be you reviewing renaissance periodization's male physique templates. People say they have their best results on them.

  • @Anandfulness

    @Anandfulness

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd rather have him review the latest Custom templates by RP. The MPT is known to have a lot of volume.

  • @billybigballssteubing2243

    @billybigballssteubing2243

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like it's been reviewed? Are you after someone breaking the science on why it may work or not?

  • @jpro8908

    @jpro8908

    7 ай бұрын

    Just wrapping up peak week five here on another successful RP cycle. Two more sessions to survive before deload. I find these work wonderfully. I do favor their bodybuilding ones however over their strength plans.

  • @1wisestein
    @1wisestein2 ай бұрын

    This comes across as a kid who confidently & critically gives a book report based only the Cliff Notes, hoping the teacher hasn't read the book herself. A lot of your confusion & criticisms of this method are addressed in his book (co-authored by Andy Baker): Practical Programming for Strength Training. It teaches very useful concepts for programming that I've not seen well explained in more bodybuilding oriented literature. As others have said, this method (not template) of programming is only relevant to those who've completed their novice linear progression in strength (see starting strength) and are unable to attempt higher amounts of weight on the movements more than once per week. That assumes the person wasn't prevented by inadequate recovery (sleep and lots of food). The method is the fastest way to continue gaining strength and requires only minor modifications to their previous programming: starting strength. This is for people who want to be stronger as quickly as possible and have the resources/hormones necessary to recover. Almost exclusively a subset of men between 20-35. It's not a powerlifting program because its not explicitly meant for peaking the athlete, although you can modify it to do so. It born under the American weightlifting coach Glenn Pendlay, who had his athletes perform it. If you think about this program in terms of muscle groups you're going to have a hard time. You need to think of it in terms of human movements that can be strengthened: pushing (BP, OHP), squatting, pulling (deadlift, power snatch/clean). Everything else is just assistance movements to those.

  • @fabioq6916

    @fabioq6916

    2 ай бұрын

    The statement about not thibking in terms of muscle groups and instead thibking in terms of human movements that can be strengthened is, clearly, a nonsense. What do you think muscles are for? Movement! So if you negkect a muscle you are neglecting a movement oattern that can be strengthened. Obviously. I thibk what you mean to say is that Rip is concerned with POWERLIFT MOVEMENTS in a very narrow rep range. He considers that the defibition of strength, period. It isn't of course ut that is why you come up with that sort of bizarre statement. And for the record, you cannot POSSIBLY claim that Rip's methods are "the best". Based on what criteria? Almost any program works on beginners. And SS is extremely co troversial for intermediates and advanced. The main team split over it when the BArbell Medicine guys quit because Rip refused to budge on his dogma.

  • @gerym341
    @gerym341 Жыл бұрын

    Another excellent video. Thank you very much for your extremely informative and useful content. Looking forward to more stuff from you. You never disappoint.

  • @JoshBenware
    @JoshBenware Жыл бұрын

    Great episode! I enjoy your program breakdowns.

  • @StanislavPaseka72
    @StanislavPaseka72 Жыл бұрын

    As always, excellent! It's crazy how much simplification these types of training plans use. As with, e.g., volume, imagine how someone's recovery differs with more stress, a lower sleep quality, and a level of advancement exercise to exercise. Thanks for making the fitness industry better!

  • @MichaelDefoe253
    @MichaelDefoe253 Жыл бұрын

    Menno, read your articles for a long time now. Apologies if you've created others; but I love the idea of you debunking common fitness theories in video form as well. Keep it up!

  • @flamboyanta4993
    @flamboyanta4993 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent critic, Menno! Thanks

  • @GerhardNL
    @GerhardNL Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for these reviews Menno!

  • @Anandfulness
    @Anandfulness Жыл бұрын

    Excellent review, your knowledge on this subject is pretty amazing. Wish you had more views and followers because you definitely deserve a lot more.

  • @daktuno
    @daktuno Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video, as always.

  • @bevanmottram20
    @bevanmottram207 ай бұрын

    Have you even done the 5x5 program ?

  • @jaijaiwanted
    @jaijaiwanted Жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed this, thanks Menno. U did so well in your analysis- by not laughing I mean*

  • @jpro8908
    @jpro89087 ай бұрын

    Very good and objective review. I actually had this one on my radar as a possible future option and now I think I will be able to find much better. Almost has shades of HIT Jedi in it. Thank you again!

  • @unassignedd
    @unassignedd Жыл бұрын

    Great analysis

  • @climbscience4813
    @climbscience48138 ай бұрын

    Just figured out that I'm not subscribed to you. WTH? I've been following your content for more than 5 years. Good that I have found you!

  • @jeremyjjbrown
    @jeremyjjbrown3 күн бұрын

    I did 5x5 for years a long time ago and if you want a balanced strength hypertrophy program it works.

  • @LavaFlame-wm6ms
    @LavaFlame-wm6ms2 ай бұрын

    The world record for weighted dips is 195Kg by Mathew Zlat, he also does 120Kg Pull-ups and 125Kg+ chin-ups. He ONLY trains pull-ups, chin-ups and dips for strenght (4-6 reps max, usually he does 1-3 reps) and he's massive. He doesn't do any bicep work, tricep work, shoulders work... he says it is all a waste of time. He doesn't do accessory work. People need to just train strenght and be simple about it. He tried the benchpress once for a video and he could do 200Kg without ever working for it lol.

  • @williammg9135
    @williammg9135 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review. I began with the SS NLP in June 2020 at 57 and moved to The Texas Method 5A after a period of time. TM 5A as outlined in The Barbell Prescription. For me, I am pleased with how I have progressed, even with some recurring injuries to my hams. I will continue with the program for now and see if I can reach my goal of 1200lbs on the 3 lifts during my 60th year. Take care. Edit: I should add, the program has done nothing outwardly noticeable in regards to my size. Nobody who knows me is even aware I strength train and I still wear the same size shirt and jeans.

  • @fabioq6916

    @fabioq6916

    2 ай бұрын

    So you have not put on weight?

  • @simaoribau321
    @simaoribau321 Жыл бұрын

    I think you misunderstand the program and it's context. It is only meant for people coming out of the NLP that can recover from high intensity training and want to get brutally strong at the powerlifts and OHP. That being said, It's structure makes sense for people acostumed to the NLP. It must also be said that this isn't a true structured program but more of a way of programing (volume work, recovery work and intensity work) that is explored through several pages in "Practical Programing of Strength Training". Almost every single critique you have for the "program" is adressed in the book and a solution is given. So i understand your critiques but i think you don't give the proper context it deserves (besides in the ending). Besides that, good video.

  • @r.e.4640
    @r.e.4640 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Menno!🙂👍 Can you analyze the Max OT Training method. This was done by Jeff Willet and Skip La Cour, who were said to be Natural bodybuilders. A lot of people have gotten big from this program.

  • @Abraham_Kist-Okazaki
    @Abraham_Kist-Okazaki Жыл бұрын

    Rippetoe says and does a lot of stupid things. However, he is often unfairly taken out of context and his words get misrepresented which is exactly what you are doing at the beginning of this video in your criticism of Mark's statements about size being a byproduct of strength. The problem is that you are making your criticism of that statement within the context of his Texas Method for intermediate lifters when those comments are, in fact, made within the context of his Novice Linear Progression program -- the training method for beginning strength training --- i.e., Starting Strength. Next, when you get to the recovery day, you make up the hypothetical of a guy only squatting sets of 80K! This example makes it clear that you are not, in fact, critiquing Rippetoe's program. In his books, Rippetoe makes it pretty clear that an intermediate is able to squat three plates for 5 reps. If all you can squat is 80k then you are barely halfway to Rippetoe's definition of an intermediate and should not be doing the Texas Method!

  • @MrRunescapy
    @MrRunescapy Жыл бұрын

    Great vid. Consider getting some microphone that can filter out that echo of your room, or doing some post-editing (idk if possible). Also maybe some more vibrant lighting so you don't look faded out?

  • @menno.henselmans

    @menno.henselmans

    Жыл бұрын

    Working on it! I hired a graphics designer, bought a studio light and a new mic, so the quality should improve. It's tricky to set up optimally considering how often I move.

  • @peteragov4795
    @peteragov47954 ай бұрын

    great vid,thank you. Please,review Neurotype training /Thibarmy/ and nrurotypes idea at all . will be interesting

  • @thewrenchjockey7146
    @thewrenchjockey7146 Жыл бұрын

    Great breakdown and dispels a lot of the myths that beginners believe when starting hypertrophy training.

  • @TypicallyUniqueOfficial
    @TypicallyUniqueOfficial Жыл бұрын

    I love your input because you have both the experience and scientific knowledge. Too many “experts” these days.

  • @jovanajovanovic9
    @jovanajovanovic9 Жыл бұрын

    Thankss

  • @michaelkeathley3672
    @michaelkeathley3672 Жыл бұрын

    If Rip ever sees this, these will be his comments (or something to their effect): 1: You're not even American; what do you know? 2: You don't even look like you can pull 500; What do you know? 3: I've been doing this shit for 50 years; I know more than you. 4: Your accent is funny.

  • @climbscience4813
    @climbscience48138 ай бұрын

    I feel that some of the criticism could be refuted stating that it is not a bodybuilding program, but rather a "general strength" program, whatever that means. So, bicep volume might not be a huge concern. Your other points are very well put, thanks for the video!

  • @BenG-rd5wg
    @BenG-rd5wg6 ай бұрын

    Would you say that absolute load doesn‘t matter that much for recovery and advanced athletes should train as much as beginners/intermediates?

  • @s9209122222
    @s9209122222 Жыл бұрын

    How about Andy Baker's 4 days split Texas Method?

  • @classicalmusic1337
    @classicalmusic1337 Жыл бұрын

    You're very patient with this ridiculous program!

  • @gcruishank9663
    @gcruishank96635 ай бұрын

    I would say in general , the stronger you get you’re going to gain some size. Yes, bodybuilders use a lot of other techniques to get big, but most of them are DAMN strong. Arnold, Yates, Coleman, and on and on.

  • @bobbobson4030
    @bobbobson4030 Жыл бұрын

    Wish I had seen this video 5 years ago.

  • @fallingleaveskungfu
    @fallingleaveskungfu10 ай бұрын

    Menno's perspective is driven much more by "physique" goals (note his emphasis on "muscle groups," whereas Rip specifically talks about strength training and movement patterns). Personally I put more stock in Rip's nearly 5 decades of clinical experience than random ex phys studies, usually done for short periods in untrained (or incorrectly trained) individuals, the results of which are seldom, if ever repeated.

  • @PhiyackYuh

    @PhiyackYuh

    7 ай бұрын

    Health illiterate will believe the bs mirror muscles over performance any day all day. People that are into performance will be able to weed out aesthetic bs opinions as it doesn’t relate to their performance. Its just posing muscles nothing more. To simplify strength and power training just listen to andy galpin. Case closed.

  • @fabioq6916

    @fabioq6916

    2 ай бұрын

    Strength defined as what? The powerlifts only. That is precisely the problem with Rip. His definition is narrow, Menno's isnt. There is a reason none of Rip's acolyte look well rounded and are athletic. They are strong in the powerlifts at low reps. Period. The guys who were actually pretty decent and science based quit to form Barbell Medicine, precisely because the intermediate to advanced SS programs sucked

  • @fabioq6916

    @fabioq6916

    2 ай бұрын

    Define "clinical experience".

  • @mucpatrick
    @mucpatrick6 ай бұрын

    Texas method, is more a metode then a program , Use 80-90 % off 5RM on volum day, I use 85%, You can modified it to your need, for pull I train deadliftRow 5x5 on volum day , chins on the light day, and deadlift on the heavy day

  • @Cenot4ph
    @Cenot4ph Жыл бұрын

    I quickly found out that this kind of programming does not suit my body at all, it's way too heavy and fatiguing. For people that have strength in their DNA i guess this kind of programming would make sense

  • @whereismybucket9680

    @whereismybucket9680

    11 ай бұрын

    It is towards intermediate lifters ,maybe a programm oriented towards beginners will be more sutied for you

  • @IntelligentProbe
    @IntelligentProbe3 ай бұрын

    90% - LOL... on any given day this might be your actual max or even too heavy. No shit this will overtrain you fast.

  • @LavaFlame-wm6ms

    @LavaFlame-wm6ms

    2 ай бұрын

    It is 90% of your 5 rep max, not 1 rep max

  • @tiitjuhei
    @tiitjuhei5 ай бұрын

    Overhead press targets front delts and somewhat upper pecs and very little side delts. Bench press targets pecs and somewhat front delts. Whole review is mostly BS.

  • @Kundalini_Rose
    @Kundalini_Rose Жыл бұрын

    The echo in the background makes it very difficult for me to take the information in.

  • @Matthew-xy1hj
    @Matthew-xy1hj7 күн бұрын

    Critisim is far too nuanced for me. Perhaps reading the book might have been a good idea before this video.

  • @canadianrs3128
    @canadianrs3128 Жыл бұрын

    I wasted a few weeks on this program years back. I threw all my Rippletoe books in the recycling bin. Nothing about the program makes any sense, it's merely ancient dogma.

  • @rickyparrish2570

    @rickyparrish2570

    Жыл бұрын

    You didn't do the program and this guy intentionally misrepresented the program.

  • @canadianrs3128

    @canadianrs3128

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rickyparrish2570 I did the program. A great way to have sore joints and no back whatsoever.

  • @rickyparrish2570

    @rickyparrish2570

    Жыл бұрын

    @@canadianrs3128 you didnt do the program

  • @drno62

    @drno62

    10 ай бұрын

    @@rickyparrish2570 He just said he did, you're proving his point about dogma

  • @rickyparrish2570

    @rickyparrish2570

    10 ай бұрын

    @@drno62 oh he said he did. That must mean that he is correct.

  • @jordanwine8760
    @jordanwine8760 Жыл бұрын

    I think you were overly critical of this program. I think all of your points were valid but the point of this program is pretty much to blow up your squat strength. Many people have made great strength gains with this program.

  • @hughlopes8479
    @hughlopes84794 ай бұрын

    Youve completely missed the point of the program. The program is designed to be adaptable to the individual. Also you say theres no bicep work. How about the chins? You say the press and bench don't use the same muscle groups. The ss press requires you to lean back and present your chest to the ceiling, engaging the chest. You say there is no rear delt work. Deadlifts, power cleans, power snatches and chins all use rear delts. Also if you wanted to add rows or other assistance work you can, but just doing the basic exercises are enough. There are loads more flaws in your Criticism, i could go on and on. Oly lifting not effective for muscle growth? In combination with strength work they absolutely develop you. Also this program is not designed for muscle growth its to increase strength. The oly lifts help you maintain the ability to display the newly acquired strength.

  • @Matthew-xy1hj

    @Matthew-xy1hj

    7 күн бұрын

    Agree. Been doing TM cycles for more than a year, muscle mass is increased but my focus is strength, so to me muscle gain is a side effect of my strength training. numbers obviously increased. I have no muscle imbalances noticeable , my traps delts rotator cuffs are defined and balanced, and don't do anything outside the program. Not even bicep work :) I don't do snatch tho, only cleans and sometimes jerk if I have any fucking energy left !!

  • @kjelltoreknudsen2195
    @kjelltoreknudsen21958 ай бұрын

    Where is the science. I hear just his opinions. Where are the research and not his opinion.

  • @fitnessandnutrion3128

    @fitnessandnutrion3128

    5 ай бұрын

    Facts

  • @Raao1
    @Raao1 Жыл бұрын

    Get a better mike and a room with at least minimum sound isolation.

  • @CptOrsm

    @CptOrsm

    Жыл бұрын

    Points for input there, champ. 25 mins of in depth, high quality information, and the only thing you have to say is about the production quality.. Do u even lift bro?