im see people are saying this is click bait, that wasn't really my intention, I just wanted to tell the story and i thought this would be a cool title, but i guess it could be seen as click bait, BUT in the video I asked if the controller COULD be a reason for the titan sinking and i wanted to find out... watch the vid

@thevolunteerfisherman8575

Жыл бұрын

No, I'm pretty sure you intended it to be clickbait. It is pretty obvious peoples obsession with this controller is out of control. Which is ridiculous seeing as these type controllers are also used by the US military in multiple applications. You used it as a thumbnail because you knew it would get clicks. Congrats, it worked. Even though I'm not watching the video.

@GeorgeGeorge-yb2sz

Жыл бұрын

I have been told that KZread is telling people to use dramatic headlines similar to click-bait to get people to watch. I personally have been purposely NOT watching any with the apocalyptic headlines because I am tired of fake news. "First time shame on you, second time shame on me!"

@nickwayfinder8548

Жыл бұрын

Simple as this. Wasn't the controller. Are other things controlled with controllers of the same vain. I don't remember where I saw the comment might have been in the comments here but why spend millions making something someone else has already perfected in reference to the controller. What caused the Titan to IMPLODE not sink...was them going too deep than it could handle and they went pop simple as that.

The controller was the least of the problems with the submersible.

@Phoenixhunter157

Жыл бұрын

Right?! Controller didn’t kill them. Probably the carbon fiber body or the portal that was never meant to go that deep. The controller is a non issue

@zacharyfrancislevi

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@frankmundo4300

Жыл бұрын

Doubt it was even a problem

@andanandan6061

Жыл бұрын

It is a problem. Rule says that a manned submersible must be fitted with Steerable propeller (or Fixed propeller + Rudder). We see only Fixed propeller without rudder. Apparently Titan Steering capability is obtained by creating thrust asymetri between port horizontal thruster and Starboard horizontal thrustrr

@johnsimmons7195

Жыл бұрын

The controller bs was CLICKBAIT

the titan failed because of 3 things basically 1: mixed materials used (included not properly tested carbon fibre) 2: it was tube shaped and not a perfect sphere like all body holding pressure chambers in proper submersibles 3: it went down nearly a dozen times, they reported cracking noises and IGNORED it!

@theetruth4267

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, it wasn’t the controller, but these other issues

@michaelmurphy6195

Жыл бұрын

What got me was finding out they used glue to attach the titanium bell adapter ring to the carbon fiber barrel.

@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, the steering wheel didn't do this

@frankmundo4300

Жыл бұрын

Bro he wanted to die down there to become apart of the titanic obsession is insane cant convince me otherwise

@tomslastname5560

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelmurphy6195 there was nothing inherently wrong with using epoxy to join the components of the hull together, I don't think there was anything else that they *could* use to join these two components besides epoxy anyway. The issue is that they applied it on a regular factory floor where there was dust and other debris, instead of in a dust-free environment with the workers wearing masks and coveralls to avoid any foreign material getting into the epoxy.

The controller was probably the best part of that sea casket.

HEADLINE: "The 40$ controller that took the lives of 5 people? " Not one mention of how the game controller took any lives, WTF, Over?

@tomslastname5560

Жыл бұрын

I know, the video isn't even about the controller at all, besides just mentioning that it was there

Personally I don't believe the 40 dollar controller had anything to do with the implosion. Lots of credible engineers said the Titan's construction was a complete joke and disaster was imminent if they proceeded with it; as well as various physical signs the sub was not safe. Both of which the CEO ignored. As weird as it sounds, it appears the use of game controllers such as this to control equipment like this is not exactly uncommon. There were many flaws in the Titan's construction that are more likely the cause of its destruction. One of the windows was designed to withstand about 4,000 feet of pressure; however, the Titanic wreckage is closer to 13,000 feet, this is one of many design flaws in the vessel in which the CEO was clearly aware about. It is likely this window, or one of the various design flaws caused the implosion. The story of the Titan is not a freak accident or malfunction with equipment; it is a cautionary tail about cutting corners and being cheap in such a dangerous field. The careless actions of this CEO resulted in the death of 5 people including himself.

@robertstone9988

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Iv been telling every on who will listen the controller isn't a big deal. Why spend millions developing your own controller when some one already has done that for you. You would be surprised how many people don't understand that. They thank there I like a official submarine joystick stick. Like shit a got one for a bulldozer this won't work go back and get a submarine joy stick. There all the same made out of the same shit with the same premises on how they work but because it also used for gaming it can't be used for any thing else.

@tomslastname5560

Жыл бұрын

I initially suspected the window too, but the nature and distribution of the debris field suggests it was the carbon fibre hull section that failed. There are also reports that they had actually communicated with the support ship that they dropped ballast and were making an emergency ascent before they lost communication, suggesting that Stockton Rush's DIY hull fault sensors that were supposed to detect an imminent failure of the hull might have actually worked, albeit in accordance with everyone's warnings that the sensors could only provide a few seconds advanced warning at best.

@andanandan6061

Жыл бұрын

You need a reliable control when going down to such deep water to make sure you always have full control in adjusting your submersible rate of decend.

@TheComicCorvette

Жыл бұрын

@@andanandan6061 True, but that wasn't the cause of the problem. It COULD have been, but in this case, it wasn't responsible.

@robertstone9988

Жыл бұрын

@@andanandan6061 again there is no official submarine joystick controller. If you designed your own control panel what would you use? One that's already had millions of dollars in development and testing or spend all that money your self making one your self that would work the exact same way?

Honestly, the moment I heard about this whole submarine debacle, I just knew for a fact that these people wouldn't be coming back again alive. Even if the sub didn't implode, they still would've been stuck in a very serious pickle, given how their communications feed cut out on their FIRST day of descent.

@trip8159

Жыл бұрын

bro its only a one day thing lol

@hollowbunny4911

Жыл бұрын

Exactly - Even if it wasn’t an implosion, if you get stuck at 12,500 ft how are they going to wench you out? Impossible to do within the oxygen limit window

@itoo3654

Жыл бұрын

First HOURS of descent.

I must of missed the part where the controller imploded killing all aboard leaving the submersible intact. SMH

@CapsFan

Жыл бұрын

Channel owner made an 8 minute video in which he blames a controller for the submersibles implosion. 😂 I’m pretty sure the controller has nothing to do with how well the submersible could withstand ~6,500 PSI.

@tomslastname5560

Жыл бұрын

@@CapsFan the funny thing is that the video doesn't even discuss the controller at all, besides just mentioning that it was for steering the vessel at the start of the video. The title is completely misleading.

@rus1616

Жыл бұрын

The channel owner has about the same IQ as the price of the controller.

@tomslastname5560

Жыл бұрын

@@rus1616 roughly the limit of the intelligence you can get away with if you believe that IQ is an effective measure of overall intelligence.

@rus1616

Жыл бұрын

@@tomslastname5560 put it this way, the owner of this BS channel is as intelligent as a plum.

The controller didn't kill them it was likely the failure of the carbon Fibre pressure hull that turned them into a cloud of goo

It's not the controller. It's the carbon fiber hull. 🤣🤣🤣

The $40.00 controller killed no one!

The controller had as much to do with the implosion as my left foot did

@hfvhf987

Жыл бұрын

Damn your left foot ;) lol

Controller was the last thing that would kill them. To get to the surface all that’s needed is to drop ballast they don’t drive it to the top it’s only driven when at the bottom.

The controller wasn't the problem at all it was how the sub itself was poorly built

If the Titanic had had that $40 Logitech game controller, perhaps it wouldnt have hit the iceberg.. :)

This video about to blow up hopefully not implode

They probably use the forbidden combo in the game controller. Up-up, down-down, left-right, square-circle, square-circle while holding r1 and r2.

No it didn’t…. The problem is Bluetooth/ no wires, no backup. It was just one of the glaring problems.

@SeanRCope

Жыл бұрын

@starkeymorgan7481 yup yup, to fast. I heard that too. The don’t fire up the engines until they’re on bottom though. Easy to drop weights I’m thinking they did but to no avail. Might find the weights and maybe by positioning they can tell if they did. The port wasn’t certified for the depth either. It was just a matter of time.

i really enjoyed this video

@CapsFan

Жыл бұрын

Which part? The part where the channel owner clickbaits, or the part where the channel owner clickbaits?

Bottom line Rush was trying to reinvent the wheel even when experts told him it wasn't a solid enough design for that depth.. From what I understand subs are all made from the same material throughout to avoid corrosion and the titan was made of 3 different materials.

Dont blame it on the controller but the carelessness of the CEO

The controller was not the reason....I have two words.... Cullumbia and Challenger.

So if the controller lost connection does the vessel continue going in the same direction it was last going in when the controller lost connection stuck in free fall untill the controller reconnects?

if the afterlife is real, I'm betting Titanic ghost victims are laughing at the controller debris.

The 400 atmospheres of water pressure against a hull that couldn't keep it out made it implode. Testing and certification of materials and design may have prevented the hull from failing yet it sounds like submersibles need an early retirement due to the extremely unforgiving oceanic environment of cold and pressure that increases with depth. The other submersible vessels were able to keep the elements out as they used standard testing and designs clearing the depth they went to where this 5 inch thick glass window was expected to keep a million pounds out with different materials and seals that expanded and contracted at different rates making it impossible to determine how long it would hold up which is a ridiculous assumption to make if you are 4,000 meters under the water. Taking one's chances with other's lives is negligent and criminal as once the hull cracks it's too late.

The titan and it's size is a mockery of the titanic. Almost like saying it's unsinkable.

Unpopular opinion here but the Titanic needs to be destroyed to stop visitors. This is a gravesite so respect the dead. You never have tourism around wreckage’s of car accidents, aviation accidents, or train accidents. Wreckages should be destroyed.

What was the last conversation with the sub? Aren't they supposed to be monitored online all the time, talking with support ship above for every freaking moments? From Ocean Gate to Ocean Grave...

The controller isn't the blame. It's the entire design of the submarine because it wasn't built to withstand pressure at 12,000 feet. Secondly, the CEO of Oceangate fired the engineer who had warned him about the potential danger. This is why you don't ignore experts.

If it were any other brand you wouldn't be hearing about the controller. So what's being implied here is that because it was a Logitech it caused catastrophic pressure hull failure. Interesting. Impossible, yet still an interesting logitechnical theory.

why no locator beacon?

The game controller had absolutely zero to do with this vessals demise and really should stop being sensationalized by media. It is sad that misinformation like this is being circulated when a massive amount of greed and ignorance led to this failure. What more people should be talking about is the dissimilar materials this vessel was constructed from. Carbon fiber and titanium have very different stress profiles. These materials expand and contract at different rates under both pressure and thermal cycle, two forces they would see in extremes at ocean depths. The only physical attachment the titanium even had to the fiber midsection would have been some type of epoxy resin. That resin would need a strong bonding surface with a large engineered surface area to adhere. This surface area is usually created with grooves, pits, peaks and valleys in the metal, or an abrasive process known as sintering. Without such areas the glues would not have proper adhesion, nor would they be able to form the elastic mate between these two dissimilar materials and allow for mitigation of the stress between those two points. All of the video materials available for the hull construction show the end caps mating to the fiber as smooth flat surfaces, this is extremely poor engineering. This is why no one builds submersibles from non-homogenous or non-contiguous materials. Even if they did, they would not use a cylindrical wound design such as Titan. Overlap and seam coverage is extremely important to the stress and flexture profiles of these exotic materials, and it's the only way to produce strength. Titanium, unlike steel, has a very large tolerance for compression and can handle massive amounts of pressure beyond that of traditional high yield steels. That said, what titanium lacks in comparison is elasticity. The advantage of steel is its ability to re-expand following a deep dive to its test depth limits. Titanium will de-rate each time due to compression and require test to prove no fractures are forming in order to maintain its test depth. Often, titanium will de-rate to shallower depths following a certain number of dives until the material either fails test and is pulled out of service or is replaced to restore the vessals rated full test operating depth.

That must be the special edition controller...

It's a PC Controller, not XBox or Playstation. In the Cramped Submersible any wires would get in the way. They did have backup hand controllers. They are very reliable and can last for years !!!! In that Mickey Mouse Submersible wires could be a Fire Risk !!!

The controller had 3 backups. The integrity of the hull failed.

The controller had nothing to do with the implosion. It was the suicidal use of a carbon fiber hull that doomed them. Carbon fiber is great for internal high pressures, but useless for external high pressure.

The controller was the least of their troubles...

The controller was the very least of the problems and not the issue

The controller had nothing to do with it

Same old story ..we know but you thumbnail baited making us think about the controller..cheap gimmicks to viewership..at least have some respect to lost lives..money is not that worth if you lose self-respect.

@jacoyia5577

Жыл бұрын

The money spent on the right equipment would of saved their lives.. Stockton Rush was an egotistical manipulative person that was very selfish in his acts resulting in the deaths of his own and 4 innocent people..

What about the cut the corners? engineers fired for raising concerns? Ignoring letters and emails from experts? not doing testing or getting a certification? The window being unsuitable? And your blaming it on the controller??

The cause of the implosion probably wasn’t the game controller, it was more likely the application of contaminated epoxy.

A bad workman blames his tool. Is a game controller the cause?

I think it failed more because of the type of sub they used than the controller.

damm i herd about this

@nickwayfinder8548

Жыл бұрын

Did you also herd some sheep?

@Zion83n6

Жыл бұрын

​@@nickwayfinder8548😂

Im just speculating here, im no submarine expert or materials expert but im pretty freaking sure that the controller had nothing to do with the structure integrity of the submarine but its cool that you made a video about it and got people to view this dumbs shit:)

They should have never used a controller for Microsoft. The poor victims suffered a real life version of the Red Ring of Death.

I don’t think it’s possible to connect the controller with an implosion. They are really not connected.

controller had nothing to do with the de-lamination of the spun wound carbon fibre hull

Why is everyone defending thos controller? It's ridiculous. Grow up.

If they we're aware something was about to happen they should have hit the pause button, it works everytime, I often use it if I need a toilet or snack break, it would appear it happened to quickly to hit the button in time, they likely didn't finish the sentence 'wtf', they gave it a good try, had a few successful dives prior....I never knew how many folks on KZread were deep sea maritime engineering experts until this week, we could have done with their expertise last week, too little, too late, RIP to the intrepid adventurers.

Blaming it on the controller is nearly the same as to blame it on the fact the sub was called "Titan". You see - it is "Titan"! Like "TITANic"! See? See?

"The $40 Controller that took the lives of 5 people" Was there a self destruct button on the controller?

I'm gunna buy one and use it for my Tesla let's see how this goes

I’ve been saying this from the very beginning. Had he used an official PS4 DuelShock Controller™, none of this would have happened. Never, ever buy a knockoff.

OK, it is a tragedy, nobody denies that. However, since it happen, every day some smart ass has to add something. Now they say it could have been the $ 40.00 game controller. I don't think so. That controller had nothing to do with the implosion, period. And on every "new" video, they have to tell how and why the Titanic sank. I believe we heard that often enough, even before this accident. Without the accident, there would not be a single mentioning of the dive. We have never heard anything from the previous dives, but we will be hearing and seeing a lot more of still coming videos containing smart ass explanations!

What is the evidence that says the controller was the cause?

It wasn't the controller that killed the crew, it was structure fatigue. You will not die by playing videogames with this controller.

The Titan looks like a tuna can. I am saddened by the death of the four Passengers but not Stockton Rush. He was unqualified, incapable, and has no regard for human life. He doesn't have to worry about his billionaire status anymore. Hope, during the trials, his estate is depleted.

A $40 game controller caused the submersible to implode. Yup.🤣

The controller was not the problem. The carbon fibre body was.

this was not a submarine it was a submersible

Why not get a ps controller?

It is difficult to understand people's infatuation with the controller. It's not the controller's cheapness that caused the disaster. Many commercial vehicles use fairly cheap input devices whether they be switches or otherwise as they are generally reliable enough. It should be remembered anytime we take a trip on anything which is generating revenue, it's always going to be the cheapest parts put together by the cheapest bidder.

false info...it wasnt the controller..in fact the Navy uses the same one.

@nadtz

Жыл бұрын

I would guess the navy uses wired controllers not wireless to reduce point of failure but I agree this is a very clickbaity title.

It was a Knockoff​ PlayStation controller...Not worth 10 bucks!

Commenting for the algorithm

Seems like all Bluetooth Equipment no matter what it is, fails when you lose internet. Seems like its design that way.

@william7427

Жыл бұрын

@starkeymorgan7481 fix it

For the last damn time they didn’t believe it was unsinkable.

@chunkybuttz844

Жыл бұрын

“with all the testing I think the vessel is invulnerable”….

@CapsFan

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure Stockton Rush literally said on video that the vessel was invulnerable. But ok.

@ANTO-un8eu

Жыл бұрын

@@CapsFan was talking about titanic and submersibles don’t “sink”

The controller had absolutely ZERO to do with the implosion of the submersible other than the fact that it was on board the vessel. SMH Come on, the US Military is using identical controllers for various applications now, most notably on Submarines in the Navy. You dont think an aerospace engineer could make the same controller work for this application? Your not using common sense.

Wasn’t the controller. *Rothschild*

Descent.

The controller did not have anything to do with why they died. The controller was working fine. It was what the submersible was made out of and the lack of inspections was why they died

Pretty sure the controller was $30, and it isn’t the reason why the submersible imploded. That would be due to Carbon Fiber not being able to withstand 30+ dives to 12,000+ feet.

Everybody wants to focus on the controller, many many systems in the military are designed to operate with game type controllers because of the generations that operate the systems. ( no not COTS controllers) but I doubt the controller had anything to do with the implosion. It was a dangerous design and it failed. They found out why you don't build with carbon fiber for deep waters. Get over the controller thing.

The navy have been using Xbox controllers in their sub for a few years

Poor design, sub standard materials and lack of testing. Even if the controller failed they had 2 spares. It imploded, totally unrelated to the controller.

The controller?? Not the pressure on the dumb idea of the hull? Maybe it was bc they farted inside?

This Thumbnail LMAOOOOOOOO 😂

This is irresponsible clickbait. The controller (though really weird), had nothing to do with the incident...

Use a Atari 2600 controller

It wasnt controller but the humans fault

The controller did not take anyone's life. The title of this video shows the poster is misinformed or using clickbait. Stockton Rush using composite materials AND glue that was not designed nor rated for deep sea diving is what killed 5 people. Educate yourself before posting. Implosion has nothing to do with a game controller.

Its not innovation its design shortcuts to cheaply haul more "Deep Sea Tourist".

The controller had nothing to do with the implosion

Plot twist: it was secretly an Xbox controller commercial gone wrong.

what killed them was watching this channel

Stupid title! The controller didn't kill these people. The improper use of it, by people who didn't know what they were doing, killed people.

I can't beleive you use this music for something so tragic.

So dumb how many people are putting too much focus on the controller. 🙄That controller was probably the safest part of that whole submersible, and it definitely did not take the life of 5 people, as the title of this video indicates. A lot of high tech, state of the art machines use similar control devices. Research it.

Clickbait story. The controller did not cause the implosion.

The controller most likely had nothing to do with the sinking as it did not control UP AND DOWN, that was ballast. The trust engines were controlled and they were for the use of floating over the area and giving views and minor changes in course. NO SUB uses engines to surface, they blow ballast. STOP THE LIES>

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

thats a pretty stupid title, most likely the cause was carbon fiber failure and nothing to do with the controller

How the hell do you confuse a PlayStation 3 controller with an Xbox 360 controller They look nothing alike

Why are we blaming the controller and not the idiot who used to to control a life critical piece of equipment?

The title is misleading. You never addressed why you think that controller was related to the accident. You only briefly mentioned the fact that they used the controller at the start of the video and never mentioned it again, and then titled this video that the controller was responsible for the implosion. It was not. The controller was simply one of the multiple sketchy features of the sub but it is not what cause the sea to implode the vessel.

Stupid title. The controller did not have any effect on the sub's demise.

Why do people put out rubbish like this? it had nothing to do with the controller, the controller was fine. the hull has nothing to do with the controller.

Don't bother watching! This video is clickbait! NOTHING is mentioned about how the video controller caused the sinking! 🤬