I like the hobby positivity. I adore seeing a army with a story.

@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290

2 жыл бұрын

It's way too rare in the warhammer community nowadays. AoS players tend to not bother with story and 40k is mostly generic primaris (with special shoulder pads) armies by now, which makes it hard to create a unique army. 30k players are a lot more passionate about creating an army with a story, just because of the nature of 30K. All points above are of course derived from my own personal experience.

@Wanten-the-stormtrooper

2 жыл бұрын

I've tried making a story-focused 40k army rather recently, namely my Sons of Horus Chaos warband. As they're Chaos Marines by this time, I used the standard CSM kit for the main infantry squad, but used the SoH upgrade heads and transfers from Forge World to give them more of a Heresy feel. Additionally, I avoided giving them any of the shoulder pads with any kind of Black Legion-esque imagery due to them refusing to submit to Abaddon. I also included some Plague Marines (Slaves to Darkness indicates that there were SoH plague marines before the Death Guard fell to Nurgle), using the Forge World upgrade kit (bought off eBay due to it being OOP). I included some more SoH elements in the form of a contemptor dreadnought (with a dead Emperor's Children marine at its feet) and 5 Justaerin Terminators, alongside 2 HQs in the form of a Chaos Lord (Calth Chaplain with a power maul instead of a crozius) and a metal sorcerer (to add the rag-tag scavenger element that such a warband would likely have). Now it isn't perfect (scale differences being the chief problem), but I still feel very proud of my army overall, and appreciate the joy of creating a story-focused army.

@zackcook5123

2 жыл бұрын

@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 I can relate, I strive against this. My iron warrior's are composed partially of new blood using salvaged tech and gear. Post Heresy Marines. However the most powerful leaders and champions are heresy or just post Heresy era marines. The true veterans of the long war. While my guard are an exploratory fleet composed of dozens of nearly wiped out regiments. So e salvaged Krieg artillery, some Cadian infantry. Ultimately diluting the original Armageddon stock. And my sister's of battle have a section comparable to the destroyer's and are loathed by other sisters for their callous actions.

@JEKAZOL

2 жыл бұрын

Touché!

@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290

2 жыл бұрын

@@zackcook5123 now that's great, I never got why people wanted to play pre-established armies like the ultramarines. Armies in my opinion should be built with a backstory in mind, it doesn't even have to be a lot, Macca didn't pull a Tolkien here, he just set out a goal and reached it. I'm rambling again...

Phosphex, for when you need to scrub hard-to-clean Gal Vorbak stains off your battlefield.

@rjlarose5271

2 жыл бұрын

And here i though baking soda would do it.

@maliceharding4668

Жыл бұрын

@@rjlarose5271 obviously it is the power of tide

I'll give UM credit on this: behind the Ward style stuff, they're far less gimmick driven than other Legions. Yes I know, tactics. But the Nemesis Chapter is not Gorod(?) with his brutal huscarl attitude in Unremembered Empire, nor are the UM heroes like Ventanus wedded to a particular weapon or concept. A Death Guard is a Death Guard, it's hard to model say Night Lords as being apart from a very distinct Legion culture. But with the Ultramarines, you can focus on the modern military, Roman, Grecian or a mixture of all three to inspire you. That's good for a hobbyist, and as an example I would cite 'Praetors of Calth'

I could watch videos like this all day long. I love seeing an army that’s really well painted, and with a great fluffy concept that the artist is passionate and knowledgeable about. You did more with your videos to get me into the Heresy than any other person or channel I can think of. I don’t play Heresy, or 40K, AOS, or any other game, but I love the lore, and converting and painting models from the 30K era takes up most of my free time. It’s been really rewarding, and it’s truly videos like this that I get inspiration from, to make as-yet unseen units and characters from the books, and my own versions of things that I imagine existing alongside what we’ve been told is there. Thanks for sharing all of your work with us, and for putting out such great content.

@traitorouskin7492

2 жыл бұрын

I tried thinking of good words but basic . I feel what your saying. Cheers ta

@tunguskalumberjack9987

2 жыл бұрын

@@traitorouskin7492 right on- thanks, mate!

Still one of the coolest 30k armies on KZread. And the fact you have made Ultramarines cool is commendable. An update on these would be great for 30k 2nd Ed. Kudos. All the best brother

I really like how you've built the force from the top down, basing the units you take on the idea of the force. Often I see people think of Destroyer companies and other heavy weapon companies as static firebases, but all marine forces should really be built as fast moving strike forces.

Hobby Building w/ a Lore-based *_Story_*_ attached_ (?) "Chef's Kiss M8"

This force kinda inspired my Ultramarines. Mines definitely more ground focused with suzerains, breachers, and terminators, but I decided to add some destroyers to get to 2500 points and also because of this list. I love coming back to this video.

For a Smurf army, this actually looks pretty cool. Kudos!

This inspires me to build an armoured and shooty World Eaters company, the OLD HOUNDS!

outside of GW annoyances, I love seeing excitement and hobby positivity. GW/FW aside, Horus Heresy is bloody cool. Even if GW destroy it moving forward, there is enough awesome up to now to always make it great

@MrJTaylor8181

2 жыл бұрын

My entire 30k club, Beer and Bolters, will play the edition we prefer and not give a single shit about what GW says. Heck, everything from Mornival Events is legal in the club, and we have a few other house rules as well (Malcadors are still super heavies for us).

My xiiith legion force is all breacher themed so I'm rocking 30 breachers so far, 20 with bolters and melta, 10 with swords and boards, all on mkii land raiders, rocking the box dreads in ironclad config, I LOVE the theme of your force and can't wait to see more for sure

@wiggy5209

2 жыл бұрын

Keep going with it ...you need at least enough to take on a few corridors 😏😉 ( one contemptor per ten man squad as support?lol) An idea and theme on par with this destroyer contingent. Can imagine they partially part their shield wall In order to admit a single laser rapier into the gap to take out long range infantry or a heavy unit or provide covering fire as they continue to advance up a long corridor.

@username12120

2 жыл бұрын

@@wiggy5209 That's how I set up my word bearers, masses of breachers backed up by cataphratii terminators, contemptor-cortis talons, and rapier batteries. No tanks/skimmers/bikes, their deal is they're an assault company specialised in boarding actions. I had a lot of old space hulk, space crusade, and doom boardgame tiles, so ship deck battles happened a lot at my table. Good fun.

Always love to see army showcases, especially when there's so much effort and thought put into an army like this one.

Love it!!! This is exactly what the hobby should be. I have a fluffy Word Bearers Line Company Platoon, massed formations of legionnaries in Spartan tanks preceeded by a wave of freed prisoners used as cannon fodder with an attached contemptor dreadnought support unit. I would LOVE to pit them against this army you have!

This looks awesome, especially that minotaur. And I'm not even into Horus Heresy, just a 40k player.

This is a really cool video that builds from close attention to the lore.

Very well painted army. I especially like those dreads

We march for Macragge

@econeffects9808

2 жыл бұрын

AND WE SHALL KNOW NO FEAR!

Absolutely brilliant. An embodiment of all that the heresy is about as a game system. Painted to best of your ability, built to an appropriate theme for the background, even if that means suboptimal choices games wise, and a brilliant background built of a couple of paragraphs in a book. Thank you so much for the upload.

That's is an incredible looking bunch of models! Nice! I love thar dark, cooked look. Very mean, these guys look like they mean business. 👍

Awesome army, this is the first Ultramarine army I have seen and liked, loved the reasons behind the units , as well as the rule of cool

I Loved this Army, Its great to see other people making fun armies and not just going for the logos lectora with guilliman! Really inspirng to see for me and my loyalist close combat Iron Warriors!

You know it's easy to be negative bout 40k currently. But these look cool. Would you consider some kind of hobby vlog or tutorial showing the process? Because these genuinely look amazing And I have to agree a bit on making the force one wants. Especially in 40k Me I've got a siege themed iron warrior's using kitbashed loyalist kits. A few vindicators, predator, lots of heavy weapons, some kromlech totally not rapier batteries.

@wiggy5209

2 жыл бұрын

I would argue for some it's easy to be positive as well. All you have to do is shut off the part of your brain that questions or analyses 😂

@MrJTaylor8181

2 жыл бұрын

This is 30k, where the love of narrative and cool models is still strong.

@zackcook5123

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJTaylor8181 think I may dive into to it if its getting this rumoured revamp. All third party of course know any good proxies, because I'm leaning into destroyers myself due to narrative potential

@MrJTaylor8181

2 жыл бұрын

@@zackcook5123 3D prints from etsy....and other websites you can find (you have to do the searching on your own) to build an army for a fraction of FW's prices. I like printed helmets, shields, and pauldrons from Pop Goes the Monkey.

@zackcook5123

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJTaylor8181 hadn't heard of pop goes the monkey, I'll give them a look thanks

Damn man loving these. With the upcoming release of HH 2.0 it is creating that itch to add a destroyer contingent to my Iron Warriors.

good job on the paint scheme, looks very slick!

Sweet. You have given me some ideas for the fluff of my Iron Warriors and how to include Recon Marines (maybe as forward observers or battlefield surveillance?) at some point. Nice one, Macca!

I always really enjoy your hobby focused videos Macca, they really inspire me to keep going with 30k, no matter what happens with the company behind it! Thanks for being such a hobby inspiration.

This looks sweet, I think there is an stl for that style of dreadnought floating around

"Phosphex Medusas!" What. WHAT! That's pretty rad.

Yes, awesome video!!! You make some radical conversions. I’d love to see a video on some creative 30k armies/forces that “break the mold” like these Ultramarines do - all skitarii Mechanicum (somehow), a flying World Earers force, Night Lords artillery, maybe even creating the Imperial Army with mournival rules or using Militia/Solar Aux. ideas you have, have seen/heard of, etc!

Beautiful army and love the theme, this is the reason i have started back running heresy tournaments

@Thallaxiscool

9 ай бұрын

This was the inspo for my breaching themed deathguard blacksheild army Love when ppl make custom schemes for their armys!!! Also I rlly love the casts ferrum dreadnought so I'm definitely gonna run one with a alchem cannon!!

Nice force man, can’t wait to see it weathered, I think it will make the entire thing pop.

your commitment to a very distinctive flavor of ultramarine is commendable

I really enjoyed this video and went back and watch your other videos where you talk to people about their armies and the builds.

Love this kind of videos. Cool miniatures, some background story and close ups to see the details

Just wanted to say you’ve been quite a big inspiration for me getting my world eaters force together and the theming behind it. Keep up the great work 👍

Love hearing the passion just explode from you. Epic army bro nice work!

Oh, you glorious Salt-Lord. I only began to watch it, but it already looks so tasty, the yummy-yummy Phosphex.

I love what you have done with these guys, especially the minotaur conversion. Very tempted to copy it! I've got a centurion size destroyer company for my world eaters.

Great looking army! Always prefer armies with a narrative theme over an army that is just built to win games. Can’t wait to see what you’ll add to the force!

Love this idea; always liked the idea of “unleashing the destroyers.” Wonderful work.

Outstanding work mate. Love the details you go into. It’s all about telling that story. Doing hobby right 👌🏻

I absolutely love themed armies like this. My world eaters force is entirely based around that one Ferrus Manus quote where he calls them the “epitome of iron-clad rage given form”. Even though they get no bonuses to their vehicles I stacked almost half of my 3000 points with spartans, kratos, and predators. The only rule I need is the rule of cool

Incredible! In the time since I've started my latest army Macca has painted two.

Really lovely army thanks for sharing it with us

Good video... lore I didn't know about, and a nice tidy looking force.

That looks incredible love destroyers and looking to add some to my iron warriors.

Lovely army mate. Would love to see more videos like this with your/mates armies, where you deep dive in to it as opposed to the shorter videos of army's you did previously at events. Completely understand why those videos had to be short tho dude .

Inspiring story telling for an impressively created force... Well done on all aspects! 👏👏👍

I love these wish you could do more showcasing best inspiration for me

Really nice force you made, the models look so good, love the theme, it looks like they could really be fun to play! I'm working on making a somewhat similar phosphex theme - Traitor Iron Hands - Basically so angry at the Sally's and Ravens for hanging them high and dry in battle at the betrayal at Isstvan they are out to get revenge for the other legions failure to come to their aid but also want to hunt down Horus and the rebels still. ROW - Bitter Iron - Seige Breaker, Immortals for troops, Destroyers and terminators in elites backed up by a pair of Medusa's as the core, fill in with either dreads, thudd guns or HSS maybe. Jump pack the destroyers in, throw the Immortals and terminators in land raiders to roll up the board and soften the enemy by dropping phosphex shells around. Also a very points expensive army but will be so fun when I can get it worked out properly. If not running COBI row will just switch Immortals for Tactical's in Rhinos.

I think it's important to see your talent and love for the hobby to contextualize the salt. Great video.

@TheOuterCircle

2 жыл бұрын

The salt comes from a place of love. Think of it like this, GW is a best friend who is hard into an addiction, making money at all costs, and it’s having a negative affect on everyone around them, and I’m trying to get my friend back onto a non-destructive path.

Realy enjoyd this video and you love for the minis you done , Im so hype to start my own HH force ..just have to decide on with to start with

Looks like you did some fun hobby stuff. I am close to picking Ultramarines as my second HH army. I am very interested in a Nemesis Mechanised Infantry theme. Being Mech'ed up is a good thing on a contaminated battlefield.

This is probably my favourite TOS video in recent memory. Despite Macca being positive and there being Ultramarines on screen, I like how excited he is.

@TheOuterCircle

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh it’s the content I’d rather make, but unfortunately my channel is a blunt instrument of hobby, I talk about what I see affecting the game in the big picture, rather than my own selfish hobby goals.

@ethanevenson3855

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheOuterCircle I’m pumped to see more event stuff from you, especially with the epic30k and 3d printing posts. Have you considered going into other related games? I know you’ve said a lot about Kings, Flames, and Bolt Action before, but have you looked into SLUDGE? I think some distance from GW is probably best for everyone right now.

Army looks great dude. Really well done.. I'm working on a praetor conversion using kharn currently but the same cloak you have used.

Great looking army, Macca!

Inspiring stuff Macca! Story Crafting and physical retelling! This is what get 40k players 30k curious.... and #semihardforheresy

@TheOuterCircle

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully it makes people 30kurious.

Nice job looks great

I love this army man. ❤️👍🔥

Beautiful army Macca, I've been thinking of a later heresy emperor's children destroyer company for a while now after seeing yours on the Vic Heresy page months ago. Honestly the purple and black with dusted and charred marble from a painting and hobby perspective sounds like a dream. Just have to pin down the lore surrounding it now.

Looks awesome!

Having just tried out Horus heresy myself, I may just write up a destroyer variant of my iron warriors list after seeing this

Awesome Army!

Nice work.

Great work Macca!! Very creative! Its clear you've poured in a whole lot of love in building this force!!! Have you considered adding in some mounted Volkite Tactical Support Teams?? Or perhaps Flamer Tactical Support teams? Or even a Heavy Flamer Devastator squad?? Mounting them in atmospherically sealed Land Raiders could be very cool and fluffy!!!

@TheOuterCircle

2 жыл бұрын

Well as part of the 3k force I have heavy support with missiles (can take rad missiles in the Mournival rite of war) but will likely make a predator squadron with flamestorm cannons and heavy flamers to really feel the burn. Buuuut I also need more troops, so hard choices ahead.

Nice job!

This man resites the deep lore...

I thought this video was cool . because i thought that was the idea to have fun and have your army tell a story. feels like a Salamanders inferno squad to me. nice work on the paint job too

I really like the concept and the execution of it. I've always been a fluff player as opposed to a tournament player. I love seeing ideas and schemes like this. As yet I haven't had the chance to play HH, and only had one game of 9th since I came back to the hobby. I prefer the intricacy of picking and choosing positions etc with care, adds more to the game i feel. Themed armies are always fun to play with and against as it tells a story, even if you put yourself at a disavantage. I'm a guard player at heart and generic forces do not appeal to me at all. Macca, keep it up, great video and great ideas are always welcome as far as I'm concerned. BZ

Awesome army bro

Love your Smurf brothers army, Must make sure my Black Legion gives you a very warm welcome 👹

Lovely army Macca!

Now that is an excellent looking ultramarines army. 👌

Very nice

Nice army love a thematic force .

Stunning army, a great concept executed masterfully! This is exactly the kind of stuff that makes me really want to build a 30K army, putting a lot of thought into their background and theme and approaching it almost as historical modelling, while still being able to be creative with it. Unfortunately time and money constraints mean that I'm not able to jump into 30K for the foreseeable future and also all of the strange stuff GW and FW are doing with 30K certainly make it less probable as well, especially all of the great kits that they don't sell anymore making it much harder to customize your force when it comes to armor marks and so forth. Anyway, very well done! I enjoyed hearing your thoughts on the force and seeing the outcome of that thought process, especially as you have executed it so well.

@Ethnarches

2 жыл бұрын

I just went and looked at the 30K range on FW's website, is the situation really so bad? Almost half of the sets are listed as "Sold Out / No Longer Available"... I remember earlier a lot of the kits just totally disappeared from the site, but now they have a lot listed as sold out. There's even many recent kits that are listed as sold out, even some of the primarchs are no longer available like Mortarion. Oh well, I guess I can stop dreaming about ever having a 30K army as even if I had the time and money, half of the stuff I would like to buy isn't available anymore. What a shame...

The Nemesis Chapter is a measured and appropriate response to #Trolls leaving The Avenging Son's magnum opus 0-star reviews Love how they look! Visually it's such a simple look, and gorgeous for it. The blue really works well with the black.

Very cool

Don’t see the legion herald much, shame he’s gone.

I hate smurfs period But these guys arent smurfs and I'm gonna build them. Thx for this video

super cool, this has inspired me to continue my ultramarines force. If that tank drives backwards, should you not rotate the heavy bolters around?

I forgot to mention i also added 2 Legion Arquitor Bombard with Spicula Rocket System. I feel would fit very thematically sending down nasty rocket rounds with radiation or whatever extintion level rounds they would use. And strictly for rule of cool considering adding a mastodon , to stroke down and wipe out whatever is left as they run over the dead. But it's a bit of a investment so unsure. But I've never owned one so it's tempting

I love the army, any conversion you've had really does fit with the theme. I love the muted,warped colours. It takes a fair amount of skill to paint so cleanly and use a variety of colours so sparingly. Love the lore aspect, restricting yourself to really think before making decisions. Also like how you've used the rule of cool over "play to win" so much more immersive, real and give you an idea of how f**ked they were when they took on any task and when defending against the word bearers. Will you buy phosphex mortor launchers at any point? It's rare I like the look of the boxy dreadnoughts.

@TheOuterCircle

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t have plans for thudd guns, I may look at some kind of predator squadron, with flame storm probably, for the rule of cool, and I can’t help but feel I really lack in the anti-tank department so I will have to look into it down the line.

Can't wait to see more and these look great already. Also in the Guilliman primarch book, was that the nemesis chapter as well? Its been a hot minute so I forget.

This is my favorite chapter of the legion. Grim as hell

Nice work on the dirty dozen of the squeaky clean boys.

Hi, absolutely love these guys, love the lore around them and your colour scheme. 👌. Have you managed to choose a weathered theme to them yet? And have you got any more videos of them batreps/overviews etc.. love them

Amazing army, would you mind sharing your paint recipe for them?

Nice, I have 111th and 112th company Ultramarines.

World eater destroyers with chain axes and rad grenades

This is fucking awesome

~1 year later, did you end up weathering the Rhino differently? Excellent force, very thematic. I ended up here after looking up the Nemesis Chapter on Lexicanum/Google.

This army is amazing! What RoW are you using for them, dear Macca?

looks dope, wonder if you could use these guys in 40k? Lots of proxies for weapons but awesome nonetheless

Your models look damn good bud :-) I really like the theme of 30K seems better tbh even more so now since all the new Marines stuff all looks the same all super clean looking. I don't like that. But I cant support anything GW but there are lots of great modelers out there that make amazing looking 30k inspirted models, some I have and are getting more :-) I love the theme and style so going with something as close to that with a different set of rules.

At 7:37 *I had a electrical impulse inside my mind impulse unit!* XD

now that give me ideas for army

I play war hounds and alpha legion and after I saw this video I dropped cash and I'm waiting for it all to arrive and I'm going to play my version of nemesis but your insight on this made alot of sense and gave me a good base understanding. Can't wait to play nemesis at my local horus heresy tournaments. No one plays them at all. Actually no one plays pre primRch legions aside from me. I really like the legion names and schemes before the primarchs. I'm not sure what will be my 4th and final legion I intend to make and play. I have 1 question about nemesis...is it viable to add centurion squads? If so, which version? I figured centurion devastators due to the rulings they get with ultra marines, what do you think? I'm not so much a 40k player so I don't have as much invested. So only play carcharadons and retributers.

I really like the destroyer company you painted TOC. I really like the muted blue black of the main armor. Whats the recipe for it?