The Fedorov, Mondragon, RSC, and General Liu are absolutely goated

RSC is a skill cannon. Rewards those with great shot placement. My absolute favorite medic rifle and it's unstoppable in hard-core mode.

@blackyvertigo

Жыл бұрын

Rsc factory? Because you can’t move and shoot optical it’s all over if not perfectly still

@britisharmedforcesmilsim3015

Жыл бұрын

Wish I could get it :(

@konighartzderiv.4898

Жыл бұрын

@@britisharmedforcesmilsim3015 why you cant get it?

@destoyermacio6957

Жыл бұрын

@@britisharmedforcesmilsim3015 No DLC?

@danosdotnl

Жыл бұрын

@@blackyvertigo factory yes.

I honestly love the Cei-rigotti, its a really satisfying gun. It has a surprisingly fast ttk, and the reaload is so neat (if long). Its probably like the 2nd best close combat medic gun.

The Mondragon may be mid stat wise but the fact that it's got a fantastic firing sound makes it an easy S+ tier for me. Like if your gun doesn't constantly sound like it's actually exploding, why even play?

@marvin60000

11 ай бұрын

Honestly all medic guns are good besides the 1906, enjoyment of the weapon comes first imo

The M1916 was the first gun I got a service star on. I also am the most hyper-aggressive medic in the world. The RoF can be a problem, but it shreds people if you place your shots in the right spot. It feels like I have killed so many assaults with it in close-quarters.

Thank you im so happy i still see BF1 guide contents after 6 years.

Really enjoyed your video on medic and assault! Look forward to more videos on support and scout!

@co1e.

Жыл бұрын

Cheers, my man! I should have the Support video out towards the end of the week 😁

For the first time I’m watching a weapon Tier List that I can’t agree more with. I like you mentioned 1907 SL used to be S tier gun. Honestly for me it is and could have easily been included in S tier since every variant is amazing and offers slightly different statistics depending on your playstyle. Sweeper is a low-skill spam cannon. Reletively big magazine size, low recoil, super quick tac reload and fully automatic fire mode makes it easy to use and fairly forgiving medic rifle. Factory, despite not being fully automatic, has the best ADS accuracy out of these 3 variants and very decent hip-fire. Great all-rounder. Trench (my favourite) has literally homing bullets. Hip fire on this gun is SICK. I highly recomend it for agressive rambo medics in CQC and people who never takes off their gas masks

Great video man! Keep it up! Keepin the community of this game alive :)

very good tier list. Keep it up

im first gonna say that i love your content, and respect you as a decent player. but as a medic main in bf1 and this is by far the tier list i think i have the most disagreements on. I agree the rsc is kinda busted and deserves s tier. But there is another gun that is so broken it honestly shouldn’t be in the game. The autoloading 8.35 marksman is S tier. This gun has one of the highest ttks in the game only beaten by certain smgs, and practically unlimited range. at the tick rate of bf1 servers i have literally been called a hacker for delivering 1 frame deaths at crazy ranges. The 5 bullet clip homestly doesn’t matter if you use a quick peek shoot 3-5 bullets, go behind cover and reload you can easily drop consistent topfrag games. the 8.25 is also great tho, at close range its an easy A tier. selbstader 1916 is honestly D tier if you are playing against competent players, the ttk is way too long. still decent in pugs with bad players tho. The cei rigotti is actually more viable than you might think i would say at least a B tier. The 1907 is a decent A tier except for the sweeper variant. I think you issue with the gun is honestly the fact that the sweeper variant has terrible stats in comparison to the other variants and a good player using a sweeper honestly hurts their gameplay. i would put the 1906 maybe slightly higher, like maybe a C tier but i mostly agree with what you said about it. i know i kinda ripped on the tier list but besides what i listed above i wouldn’t consider it a bad list. Keep in mind im balancing my version of a medic teir list as if all battlefield players have decent aim or gameplay, which many don’t necessarily have in pugs.

@Lefiath

Жыл бұрын

I am automatically suspicious towards anybody who unironically calls themselves "medic main" - you realize that outside of reddit, it's an insult? A weapon that's very situational isn't really a top tier. Not as bad as the selb 1906, but you won't convince me that you are nowhere near as effective as you can be with other, more powerful weapons. This isn't counter-strike. Even in conquest, where you can dictate your positioning, you will be in situations where you can't afford to just go 1v1. Maybe if you play Frontlines against some of the more insane players out there, I could see the desire to use the absolutely fastest TTK, but still, you are sacrificing any versatility. I can't remember last time I've seen someone using the Auto 8.35 marksman and being the top player with at least 50 kills. I have also been called a cheater many, many times (you can check my channel to get an idea of how I play), and the mere existence of RSC and Liu simply makes the basic autoloading obsolete with the exception of the desire to fuck around, or if you can afford it, because there are much less players around and you somehow absolutely need the best TTK. It can be a fun weapon to play with, but calling it broken is just a fallacy. The recoil is also rather extreme, so if you follow up shots quickly after each other, good luck - I was learning this the hard way, just because it can fire as fast as possible, doesn't mean you will be able to hit precisely. It's a rarely used weapon for a good reason.

@co1e.

Жыл бұрын

Man, you mentioned four things you disagree with, that ain't ripping into it whatsoever! The Medic class is incredibly balanced and honestly, you can move it in any way you'd like, I believe all of the weapons can excel given the right playstyle. As am mostly approaching these lists from how I play in pugs, because that's all I (and most players at this point) have available to them at this point in the game. Plus, I am in no way a top tier player. I only get the opportunity to play games once-twice a week. I literally record the first two games I play and then quit to edit, nowadays, so my opinion likely will no resound with the more apt and dedicated players. I am a casual at the end of the day You were respectful with how you made your point, so no one should have a problem with it. Cheers for watching, as always man :)

@clone5189

Жыл бұрын

@@Lefiath you can easily drop a 60 bomb with the 8.35. And with a decent squad and positioning you can make it an incredibly effective aggressive option. Anyone who is good who doesn’t see the value of winning almost any 1v1 engagement simply hasn’t played enough. battlefield even in the competitive level back in bf4 has always been about ttk and effective range. that is literally why the aek/ace23 meta existed. plus any versatility lost in clip size is made up by the gun being effective at almost ANY range. something that breaks the range based balance of bf1 completely. there are literally ex bf4 pros who would agree with me that it is up there for the best gun in the game (after some of the smgs such as the smg 08, mp18, or annihilate however). tbh i never found the autoloading 8 marksman’s recoil that bad, you may slightly have to slow down at extreme long range because of spread increase per shot, but even then spam is still somewhat effective with the autoloading 8.35. also speaking of mid tier weapons you even still use the incredibly inconsistent post nerf model 10, which even in your short clips you can see sometimes 2 shots enemies that you clearly hit.

@FG-ww8rc

Жыл бұрын

@@clone5189 you gotta remember that 95% of battlefield players don't play competitive and it's never been anything more than a niche community

@clone5189

Жыл бұрын

@@FG-ww8rc that is very true.

I've had similar problems with the m1907. One game it fires straight, next game I can't hit a prone target.

@co1e.

Жыл бұрын

It's so inconsistent

As a RSC 1917 Main I laughed at your commenting, spot on! I can visualise that so easy. You shoot them once, they mov- DEAD!!!

Great tier list I just have one disagreement overall. In my opinion the fedorov, specifically the optical variant is not just the best medic weapon, but probably one of the best weapons in the game. It has high dps and low bullets to kill at close range and the tapfire is very effective from medium-long range. I think it should be S for sure. Love the vids thanks👍

@co1e.

Жыл бұрын

No problem, my man! Ngl, if you'd asked me asked me a year ago, I probably would've put the Federov S Tier myself

@theabsolute23

4 ай бұрын

Stupid broken gun, hate it and everyone that uses it, and making it a medic gun and not an assault gun was a bafflingly terrible decision

oh man, i wasnt aware of the rsc! I only play hardcore modes, this thing is a killing machine! thanks so much!

Have the same thing with the bullets of the m1917 sl sweeper, they go anywhere, not In the target but when it works its magnificent

@caseycameron5370

3 ай бұрын

My favourite medic gun coz I suck with semi autos when under pressure this thing at close to medium sometimes long is just magnificent 🤌

Thanks alot, gonna try that RSC gunnafter completing the quest for it! 🤙 Cheers

The Farquhar-Hill is my favourite weapon in the game. It is great for clearing the line to get to downed soldiers.

@jrr7031

Жыл бұрын

Yea but its pay to win...because its on paid DLC.

@lukakapanadze6179

Жыл бұрын

​@@jrr7031 Bruh you can buy the game with all dlc for like 5 bucks regularly.

@jrr7031

Жыл бұрын

@@lukakapanadze6179 i dont play on PC.

@lukakapanadze6179

Жыл бұрын

@@jrr7031 Consoles have sales too you know? Maybe not as often but for a 6 year old game should be straightforward. First time I played BF1 was on PS4 many years ago and I remember getting it for really cheap.

@jy6331

Жыл бұрын

Farquhar-Hill is my favoraite weapon too. It would lose to Autoloading, fedorov, M1907 less than 30m. About during 30-60 meters and further, Farquhar is just better. Besides, its can kill more enemies in 1 magzine (as a not accurate enough player, it also allow me to spam more shot). As to long range, the recoil was easier to control compared with Selbstlader M1916. In my opinion Farquhar-Hill with auto revolver as side-weapon is the best all-round Med weapon to engage all distance enemies. Only would I switch to Fedorov in close quarter battle which filled with poison gas and explosvie.

ugh i love the rsc 1917, so beautiful as well and i really like the sound. boom boom!

Hey thx for the bf1 content!!! Let’s see if you know your stuff

These tier list videos are bloody masterpieces mate very well done and presented 🤌

I have my highest score with M1907 Sweeper, but indeed something happened, it just doesn't work for me anymore. Great list, I do see the Gen Liu slowly creeping in on my RSC stats ;)

Some notes on certain Self Loading Rifles (SLRs) *Selbstlader 1906:* It's no shock the Selb 1906 trends toward the bottom for most, especially because its Sniper variant requires an excessive amount of kills with the Factory; iron sights with a long-range oriented SLR is genuine cringe. However? Upon earning the Sniper variant? It serves well within its niche as Medic's best 60m+ SLR with reliable/consistent TTK up close. Low capacity isn't necessarily a disadvantage when positioned far away where it's safe to reload, and combined with the softest recoil of the 3hk rifles + 300rpm? You can easily surpass Scouts if they're not attentive to lingering within their sweetspots or landing headshots! This is also precisely why it isn't necessarily all that practical though. Medic's playstyle performs best around medium range, near enough to teammates to provide revives & heals while far enough to dish out precision damage. If you're running around in the backlines as a Scout hunter? You won't accomplish all that much in the end. Still give this playstyle a try! I'd suggest switching out the Syringe for the Rifle Grenade gadget in turn, to flush out enemies or smokes to reposition and block sight lines. *Cei Rigotti/Mondragón:* Both the stripper clip SLRs are Medic's most underrated rifles in their arsenal. They excel statistically in every manner to their respective contemporary SLRs, with the only relevant impediment being their 10rnd capacities and stripper clip reloads. They're always viable in PUGs with mindful positioning & paced reloads while remaining remarkably competitive. They're not so unforgiving as the 5rnd SLRs and despite lacking the lax of the high-capacity mag-fed SLRs, the Cei Rigotti & Mondragón find the right compromise to be sufficient if given your patience. *Farquhar Hill/Howell Automatic:* A clarification worth pointing out is that these two SLRs are statistically twins with a few negligible discrepancies, so much so? Their relevant differences are mostly their visuals. Keep in mind that the Storm Farquhar Variant and the Sniper Howell Variant are rather subpar, so it's ideal to opt for the Optical or Factory respectively, otherwise Storm if the Farquhar's iron sights are preferable-arguably the sole redeeming feature if one doesn't care for the Howell's AA sights. *Selbstlader M1916/M1907 SL:* These are the high-capacity SLRs that trade performance for broad ease of use. They're relatively inadequate within their respective niches, yet despite other Medic Primaries typically surpassing them? They've attributed their renown for being straightforward spam cannons, and sometimes no-frills simplicity is all people need. However? Do be aware that the M1907 SL's Sweeper Variant is a trap. It performs dramatically worse than Factory or Trench in their respective stats, all for the ease of use full-auto feature. If the latter is desirable regardless? To each their own, but the disparity in its consistency is due to the Sweeper variant being deliberately hindered Lastly? It's more apt to compare the M1907 SL to the Fedorov, due to their identical CQC TTK within 30m. Both start nosediving in damage and BTK past the 30-40m mark, but the Fedorov (mainly the Optical Variant) performs better beyond 50m due to its low recoil, spread, and overall consistency. Their MV is identical too if that's worth noting. *Autoloading 8.35:* Mentioned in passing, but implied to be pressing the SLR overall a tier lower respectively, the .35 base variants are borked despite their minuscule capacity. Not enough Players learn that the .35 has a consistent 3hk up to _70m!!!_ And it achieves this all while maintaining less recoil deviation than even the Fedorov! To put this into perspective, its TTK is analogous to the BF4 M416, but extend the damage drop off an extra 40m, and it's also a laser beam. It isn't even debatable, the Autoloading 8.35 (moreso the Marksman variant) is genuinely the most potent 1v1 SLR that even I must admit I despise fighting Medics that know how to utilize it-thankfully they're a rare breed nowadays. All this having been said? The 8.35 is nevertheless a one-trick pony (an extremely substantial one), and Players must account for its capacity drawback with adequate game sense, careful positioning, judicious usage of a good sidearm, and prudent reload management. While this makes it out to be very skill-intensive? I wouldn't consider the Auto 8.35 a skill cannon persay (that title belongs to the RSC), rather? It's the best coaching SLR to improve Medics on the former skills I've mentioned. Once you've adapted to the Auto 8.35? It makes you better at Medic in general, while not necessarily making the rest of their arsenal irrelevant. Players don't have to use this if it's not their cup of tea, but I do suggest giving it a chance to spice up gameplay! Minor gun caveat: the mag-fed .25 variant is still shooting a rifle cartridge that was proven for hunting Bears and Deer. To put this into perspective? The .25's metric measurements are (roughly?) 6.5x52mm vs conventional 5.56x45mm NATO. It's a really big and heavy bullet, so certainly not shooting pistol rounds XD These are just some notes regarding certain SLRs and their perceived deficiencies, not so much addressing whether the tier list is right or wrong. The latter is mostly a personal ranking of what works for an individual person anyway, so I care moreso that Players have info to understand the logic and design behind the underperforming options to them. With these notions in mind? It can help to make the rather intimidating alternatives more accommodating for first-time users. It's great to see videos are still being made about BF1 in this day and age, a testament to the genuinely fantastic setting and compelling design that still makes it a great game to this day. I'll be seeing ya in the next tier list!

@caseycameron5370

2 ай бұрын

I hate medics with no syringe 😂 with a passion

Yes yes and again YES! RSC for number 1! So rarely see it used (PS4) I have maybe 20 stars with it, possibly have a couple more with the Fedorov Avtomat just from team play for a lot of the games life, but... Nothing in class is more satisfying to use than the RSC, one of the few guns that removes a lot of the "casual" feeling many said was a detriment to BF1's gameplay... And can make you feel godly, especially when someone has already been tickled for 10+ hp and you take their head clean off with a single shot at 50 odd metres!

With the m1907 SL you need to use the factory variant to keep your accuracy high. Just click fast, the only benefit sweeper gives you is select fire

Couldn’t agree more with this list

Farquhar-Hill is underrated. That gun is a laser-beam when it comes to medium to long range

Selbt1906 can definitely slay in the right hands, from my experience with the factory, it can perform well even at long range, sometimes even better than the RSC

@co1e.

Жыл бұрын

100%! So can all the Medic rifles tbh, hence why I think it's the most balanced class

@TheDisaster71

Жыл бұрын

That's right it can do a lot of damage

The Farquhar-Hill is my favorite rifle in the class, because it's at least 7/10 in class in most respects: 20 round capacity (9/10, beaten only by the Selb 1916), magazine reload (8/10, along with all the other rifles with that time-saving mechanic), iron sights (aperture + post is a 7/10 for me; I know some prefer buckhorn with this one), bullet velo (10/10, tied with the Mondragón/Liu/Selbstladers, and notably faster than the Howell), damage (7/10, a 3-shot kill is pretty reliable), recoil handling (it's so smooth! 8/10), fire rate, and the sneaky hipfire. You don't win in a close fight against the Auto 8 Extended, Fedorov, or 1907. You don't *always* win against scouts. But you can! And aside from the RSC Optical - which is just plain silly at all ranges - it's the medic rifle I perform the best with. I would argue it's A tier, the Mondragón is B tier, but otherwise this list is awfully close to my personal rankings. Cheers!

The Cei actually shreds the only issue is the 10shot per mag, but the ttk when full auto is actually insane the best in the class

@vaels5682

Жыл бұрын

There's no way it's faster ttk than the autoloading 8 .35

The Autoloading isn't chambered in pistol calibers. The Remington model 8 is chambered in .25 Remington .30 Remington .32 Remington .35 Remington .300 Savage. Which are all rifle calibers. The extended variant is specifically a Model 8 chambered in .25 Remington.

Love using the RSC I got 2 service stars in one day with it lol

General Liu is may fav, can turn into a semi auto and bolt action sniper

I actually use both the .35 and the .25 versions of the Autoloading 8. I use the .35 if the map is mostly open so I have better range that will still work for me in CQC if I need it (or if I just want to that day I’ll use the RSC I’m not the best with it but I’m good enough to use it well). But if the map is mostly close quarters then I use the .25. I tried to use the M1907 for everything but it was just annoying at times. So early on I’d end up using the Mondragon until I got better ones

Thanks 👍

@co1e.

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome, my friend :)

Don’t miss out on the mondragon, it’s really solid, my highest kill weapon by far

I love the mondragon storm

Mondragon storm is my favourite because it has low recoil and it is perfect for medium range.

Mondragon Storm is very good in close quarters

The rsc, liu, mondragon and rigotti are my favorite rifles for medic ill play with any of them and know ill i have a good time

RSC with Peacekeeper be my x2 dmg loadout, and it slays. Completely op, tho. I use it in core game modes as well, and it's 2 tap hipfire upclose can be shotguns

@Co1eFPS RSC 1917 Factory or Optical, which one do you prefer?

@co1e.

Жыл бұрын

Personally, I lean towards the factory just because I'm not the biggest fan of the optical sights in BF1

My two go to’s are the Farquhar Hill and the 1917 sweeper. I like the factory but it isn’t as good in my opinion, I like both Farquhar Hill variants.

I just re-downloaded BF1 last night. Haven't played it in years. I used to be cracked with the m1907

For me I will put the Selbstalder 1906 in A

FINALLY! Finally someone who appreciated Autoloading 8.25 and not overestimate the selbstlader m1918. Honestly, solbstlader m1918 is the most over-rated medic gun in my opinion. Autoloading, Rsc and fedorov are so under-rated.

1:55 Not to mention the selbstlader 1906 has very bad recoil, thats why nowadays I never use it. I use the selbstlader m1916 instead which is a way better gun in every way, and is my favorite medic weapon along with the general liu and mondragon factory.

18:09 my guy went full mickey mouse mode

I usually make the the Sl sweeper to the 1round every time I press R2 and kill long range camper and one time I GOT ACCUSED OF USING MODED CONTROLLER LIKE JESUS.

So far, I've done the best with the Autoloading .35 factory. I have more kills with it than I do with my top scout rifle, and I'm a scout main.

I had a good sniping spree with several long range headshots on fao fortress with the general liu and got like 3 people accusing me of cheats 😂

The BFV Pre-Order Federov-Degteyev is both ugly but deadly as hell. Giving an Federov a bipod and fairly tight hip fire spread was such a dumb idea, as it tears through targets

autoloading 3.35 is a great gun, it just takes alot of accuracy to pull off. I'm sitting at 30 000 kills with it

as much as i hate how sweeper looks and sounds , it's the best overall medic gun (let's not forget its automatic ) ... specially i hate how it sounds wtf is that ? farquhar hill is the best gun for mid to long range due to it's extreme accuracy , low kick and big magazine (i'll put it on A ) selbstlader m1916 is the coolest looking/sounding gun but it's kinda slow and kicks like a mule but overall RSC is my favorite

Me clicking on this video: RSC better be top tier. me later: Bingo.

Autoloading is the only S tier medic weapon IMO. Good at close range, excelent at mid range and decent at far range. You can shred multiple enemies if you're accurate without needing to reload with the extended variant. All said I strong disagree with all of this list but I reckon it comes to preference here 😂

Mondragon gang

What RSC weapon is it? there are like 3 of them please someone respond

@caseycameron5370

2 ай бұрын

Factory

The RSC is probably the only gun that I would nerf in Hardcore, it almost ruins that game mode for me.

@DavidGonzalez_97

Жыл бұрын

When every sniper rifle can one shot in hardcore, I think the rsc is a great equalizer. My go to rifle of choice in it.

@May-gr8bp

Жыл бұрын

@@DavidGonzalez_97 the general Liu bolt action also one shots too, and if standard issue rifles are enabled then everyone can have a sniper. RSC is certainly the lowest skill, easiest win hardcore gun that I don't use

Dont do my boy Mondragon like that, got 100 stars on it since launch and it never let me down!

The Rigotti doesn't fire FA though? The 3 FA weapons for the Medic are the Fedeorov, Sweeper and autoloading extended.

@jessepersoneni7225

Жыл бұрын

It does. It has select fire

@vanadium1169

8 ай бұрын

the Autoloading 8.25 doesn't have full auto. The three are : Cei-Rigotti; 1907 "sweeper" variant, Federov Avtomat. the Cei is the only one where it's not the default mode

mondragon sniper A tier 👌

@co1e.

Жыл бұрын

You gotta show me how you use it. I suck with that thing

@qrator6882

Жыл бұрын

@@co1e. the best way is to pace your shots, you shouldn’t shoot at its max fire rate. It’s one of those Guns that takes a lot of time to perfect

Weird how they have rifles to the class designed to run head long into battle Then again, it’s ww1

Farquhar??????????????B

Farquar hill has fucking awful bullet deviation

If this tier list is correct then BF1 is pay to win since almost all of the good weapons require battlepass to unlock, wtf.

I would change something. -I would put the fedorov on D tier,because in my opinion it's damage it's pretty low for its Fire rate,at close ranges It is surpassed by every smgs,most of the lmgs,by the m1907 and the autoloading 8.25.On medium ranges It Is surpassed by every semiautomatics,every lmgs and every smgs.On longer ranges it's Better not to talk about it. -I would put the rsc lower because of it's magazine size and it's reloading time. -I would put the selbstlader m1916 on S tier because of its performance on medium-long ranges. -I would put the m1907 on S tier.

stupid tier list for medic weapon. rsc only two shots in midrange. The damage drop is fast. The recoil accuracy return and reload time are terrible. you only have 5 ammo if you do empty reload. you need average 2.5 shot to kill but you just have 5ammo. That means you just could kill 2 enemy in a short time. If you are pro player m1916 definitely the best medic weapon for all range. In one mag you can easily kill 5 to 10 enemy depends on your skill. you can easily to get 60-80 kill in infantry map like achi baba, argone forest. m1916 can do one headshot and one body shot means two ammo to kill like rsc too. Remember rsc headshot just do 80dmg need two shot too.

@itskennylee3862

11 ай бұрын

the only way you get a lot of kill with RSC is go to noob server they just stand there without moving. Totally RSC just worth B tier.

@itskennylee3862

11 ай бұрын

And 200dmg server this one is op😂

Assault class is for sweats only....sorry. It is still OP and requires no skill.

Medic is an easy class.

@co1e.

Жыл бұрын

Yet no one seems to know how to play it

@christianmorie9685

Жыл бұрын

@@co1e. truer word have not been spoken.

@couchwilly5575

Жыл бұрын

@@co1e. facts. Good medics are a rare but valuable commodity

half the picks here are just wrong lol you talk about stats but really its just your personal opinion like in what world is M1917 SL that high really the gun is garbage a better format would be kinda mid-longrange scenario gun and close-mid because then it actually has some unique picks edit also everyone raves about the general liu but gun is bad its worst in all stats pre much but just cause it can meme one shot someone which really would never happen with its sweetspot range people love it

@co1e.

Жыл бұрын

Mate... hear me out here... at the beginning of the video, I said it was based on, "my own personal opinion."

the selbstlader m1916 should also be moved to S tier

@suzuyajuuzou4389

6 ай бұрын

Truee