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"Socialism for the few, austerity for the many." My hope "is that we do not make a desert and call it stability." Yanis is so excellent. Bolton has no shame or honor.

rnrjukespot

4 күн бұрын

Bolton never once debated Varoufakis. His hollow rhetoric mirrors his empty soul.

Chase Francis

3 ай бұрын

Settle down, crazy cat lady.

El Ougid

2 жыл бұрын

Calgacus a tribal chieftan from scotland said that about the Romans, they make a desert and call it peace

Fabulous. Incredible example of intellect vs ideology. We have to be thankful there are not more John Bolton's in this world. It would have ended a long time ago.

☭Comrade Natalie☭

3 ай бұрын

Intellect+ideology vs merely ideology.

scott fay

3 ай бұрын

he should get disappeared

I’m only 45 minutes in... but this is ridiculous. I am a conservative economist, and found Varoufakis’ summary of the economic history of the last 100 years to be fascinating: factual, illuminating, precise and perfect. I have never heard or read such an excellent, succinct account, anywhere. In just 10 minutes, he demonstrated his depth of understanding and complete mastery of what he discussed. For Bolton to immediately dismiss it as a “Marxist” interpretation is idiotic. Varoufakis might well be a Marxist, and I would love to spend an evening drinking with him arguing about incentives, property rights and a dozen other things about which I am sure we would disagree; but there is no way that his opening statement was Marxist. It was sheer brilliance.

Demetrios Athenaios

3 ай бұрын

@Psilent Music UK He has described himself as an "Erratic Marxist" He is very much aware of what Carl Marx has written, but he has disagreed with Marx in some major points... Others have called "capitalist" for example Gillian Tett, the British author and journalist at the Financial Times, kzread.info/dash/bejne/eapqk5Vpm7bgdbw.html

Lorena Wolfman

4 ай бұрын

He is brilliant... Bolton has nowhere near the intellectual and human depth and agility, and analysis Varoufakis continuously demonstrates. Bolton, yet another embarrassment to America, incapable of depth, only reciting stale stiff doctrine of the leading war-based economy... Varoufakis shows incisive depth of analysis at every turn. Too bad his debate partner cannot come close to meeting him, then it might actually be interesting... a gradeschooler (though as some have pointed out an insane dangerous gradeschooler... the ones who bring the guns to school) against a postgrad (or more like professor emeritus)... Bolton doesn't even comprehend what he is hearing or understand key material. Can't actually bear to watch much of B... even though V shines at every conference, talk, interview, etc that he give.

1:10:00 I have resigned myself to endure this in its entirety - and mid-way through I am coming to the realisation that Bolton is not too far away from being certified insane - so let us be grateful for the existence of Professor Varoufakis

DrCruel

3 ай бұрын

@Daniel Andrews Certainly Left fascists struggle with the task.

Daniel Andrews

3 ай бұрын

I know it's not easy being human, but I'm wondering if the repeated mispronunciation of a name is ever excusable...

Betty Jones

3 ай бұрын

"I am coming to the realisation that Bolton is not too far away from being certified insane" 100% Bernie

DrCruel

3 ай бұрын

I have resigned myself to endure this in its entirety - and mid-way through I am coming to the realisation that Varoufakisis not too far away from being certified insane - so let us be grateful for the existence of John Bolton.

When you have people like John here walking around free, you should know your system is corrupt

Duane Craig

4 ай бұрын

@Clement In some ways the two parties are similar and in other ways they are different, certainly when it comes to foreign affairs they are way too similar on a really bad foreign policy position.

Clement

Жыл бұрын

Woe, woe, I guess the American public have little choice of any peace loving and moral government...both the Donkey and Elephant are the similar bed fellas in different clothes !

It is an immense pleasure to listen to you, Professor Varoufakis! Thank you!

Yanis Varoufakis is a real breath of fresh air on the political scene

fffwe

3 ай бұрын

🤭

DrCruel

3 ай бұрын

@gunnarMyTube I've heard. Google how that turned out.

gunnarMyTube

3 ай бұрын

He was Finance Minister for Greece

Jimmy Recard

3 ай бұрын

@DrCruel tell me what you’re hearing then

Thank you mr. Varoufakis, Bolton's thinking needs to be called out for exactly what it is and using the term primitive is a perfect description!

Faris Btoush

2 ай бұрын

@Alex aoeu256 epstein island style

Alex aoeu256

2 ай бұрын

How did such primitive thinking get such a high position…

I didn't think I could hate Bolton anymore than I already did. Then I listened to this whole debate.

When Bolton said primitive tribes were capitalist I literally burst out laughing like a maniac alone in my room at 2am in the morning

Floyd Black

3 ай бұрын

So much ignorance regarding the Comanche trading empire in the southwest with the other Indians, Spanish, British and Americans.

Julian Cochran

3 ай бұрын

@Si Chambers Agreed. Stone Age cultures can even be observed today (Aboriginal Australia though prior to all integration, there is lot of footage as late as 1950s and 60s, or right now Kalahari Bushmen in Africa even today) and they share *everything*. Including land of course. They also don’t “compete” economically, the cooperate. They compete for status but that has northing to do with economics. Their system, like our childhood family environment, is overwhelmingly more accurately described as communist (thus our natural system, if you want to call it that) than capitalist. The idea of capitalism being something foundational is just brainwashing and rationalisation.

Si Chambers

3 ай бұрын

bina nocht Capitalism requires a currency, legally enforceable rights, a banking system etc. I mean, perhaps it is possible, but it's very unlikely. We've had plenty of other economic systems that delivered inequality and motivated by self interest. Those qualities alone don't guarantee capitalism

Orson Olson

4 ай бұрын

- then you completely miss his serious point about competition in human nature. In North America, Indians had hunted the horse to extinction. After Columbus’ men reintroduced the horse to the New World, then knives, then metal bowls, then gun, these tribes tried to cripple or even eliminate their rival tribes, as conflicts grew to stop their enemies from gaining access to points of trade with Europeans. Historian Richard White famously put together this reality, previously understood in parts, but not as a comprehensive reaction of primitive peoples to the introduction of new technology. Bolton’s point was also Adam’s Smith’s famous point about humanities propensity to truth and trade goods. Variufakis would blame Capital as some disembodied spirit, while Bolton answers in effect, the “economist” is like a South Pacific Cargo cultist - not a serious social scientist honestly observing human nature, and people as they really are.

Yanis has poetry in his soul, Bolton has neither poetry nor soul.

DrCruel

3 ай бұрын

@Iason Tsopoulos Homer Simpson perhaps.

DrCruel

3 ай бұрын

@Bernie Holland Your approval is noted and appreciated.

DrCruel

3 ай бұрын

@Svetoslav Atanasov You're welcome.

DrCruel

3 ай бұрын

@Michael Ridgway Thanks.

There is almost no comparison between the high levels of articulation and knowledge from Varoufakis, and the measly finger-pointing by Bolton.

I find John Bolton's world view terrifying. Structures for threat mitigation (until the threats disappear in and of themselves) - sounds like endless war. Certainly has worked very well since the 70's, the threats have just disappeared, haven't they? I'm glad we have people like Yanis trying to think strategically, even if for now he's a voice in the wilderness.

Paul Brett

2 ай бұрын

bina nocht the trick is not to mistake long words for intelligence.

Varoufakis wiped the floor with Bolton, I wasn’t surprised.

It's sad to see how one side offers a solution to every problem and the other finds a problem with every solution.

Francis Powell

3 ай бұрын

I was struggling to find those words.

Yanis' view on the global instability is immensely insightful and convincing. It is such a privilege to be able to gain such great knowledge free on the internet for free.

This was like pitting a sea cucumber against the oracle.

The fact that professor Varoufakis has become as notable as he has is proof that capitalism as we know it is in its death throws. People are actively seeking alternative which scares the hell out of the corporate elites.

Having watched the whole thing, I can only conclude that Bolton is shockingly dumb, or he is genuinely taking the piss. Top marks for Varoufakis for not sighing at him, even once. He was magnanimity personified.

A NNYER

3 ай бұрын

I would say shockingly dumb!

Odin All farther

5 ай бұрын

In his day he belonged to a group known as the crazy's him Rumsfeld and all the usual suspects .

O Foghladha

7 ай бұрын

@John Lawson well said

I'm just amazed bolton can talk for over 20 mins without interuption but still say absolutely nothing

S Leo

5 ай бұрын

Lots of talk not much substance, leaves a strong hawkish taste every time, each one crying out for war or confrontation

night of the world

Жыл бұрын

lol ya

northofyou33

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously.

Yanis Varoufakis is an amazing mind, Glad I got to know of him.

I greatly enjoyed the debate. The debaters were fantastic and respectful to each other. Let's have more, please. Thank you.

Such a huge difference between Bolton and Varoufakis. While Bolton immediately jumps into a "our enemies are always at fault" attack versus Varoufakis who adopts a moremeasured, mature and intellectual approach and attitude to the state of world affairs.

We need this kind of debates to keep us aware that how ill-informed and subjective we can be.

It was like watching a debate between good and evil. Thank you Yanis.

Arthur Huizar

Ай бұрын

Bro what are you talking about? Your guy sounds like Dracula. 🧛‍♂️

Michael De Young

6 ай бұрын

@Sohrab Amiri kind of you to say, thank you

Sohrab Amiri

6 ай бұрын

Hi You have a great insight I do respect you 🤔😜

First 30 min into the "debate", I am reviewing my undergraduate principles of macro-economics under the instruction of professor Yanis Varoufakis

This, for me, was actually quite amazing. If only primary election debates were this well constructed it would turn politics on its head. This simple question about GLOBAL INSTABILITY and the following two different perspectives are PROFOUNDLY Different and Make for potentially PROFOUNDLY different RESULTS. One should know what IDEOLOGIES they are truly VOTING for, to REPRESENT their WILL. Though neither of these men are running for office, perse', they are greatly influential and represent vastly different powerful political movements and / or plausible solutions to our Collective Experience that may forever change the trajectory of our shared experience for generations to come.

46:45 moderator totally saves Bolton by getting him off the hook for Varoufakis's question

Alyn Ames

2 ай бұрын

Then around 1:00:10 he interrupts Varoufakis to essentially argue on Bolton's behalf. Haven't finished yet, but I'd be very surprised if he does the same going the other direction. Moderator seems about 90% in Bolton's corner.

Varoufakis is amazing, on so many levels!

It's shocking how lawyers turn politicians like Mr. Bolton knows so little about world affairs, yet attaining high offices in US. Just left me speechless.

Orson Olson

4 ай бұрын

WRONG. Bolton was never a lawyer. Only a diplomat.

tiefensucht

6 ай бұрын

the problems lies within the system. politics is all about legislation, but not only that, even the free market, science and creative industry is a legal minefield. it gets harder and harder to navigate the world without the deep knowledge of the legal system.

When Bolton said "Americans enjoy economic security" my drink shot through my nose 😐

kungfreddie

4 ай бұрын

bina nocht high priority??? We had to push the whole summer for them to take it serious. And then wait x weeks more for treatment. And now she is dead. Just compare cancer survival rates between usa and eu countries. And what the hell do u need money 4 when ur dead? One thing I don't get.. so if a homeless person with no money comes to the hospital with an operable breastcancer the hospital will just kick them out and say: sorry, no money - u die! I doubt that somehow... I always hear this argument from leftists but never seen any evidence for it like news clips etc.. if that was the case why would ambulances even go when they get calls to skid row or some homeless encampment? Pretty obvious they don't have money.. I even heard u have a law that says they can't make u homeless bcoz of medical bills. Don't get me wrong.. all systems have pros and cons.. but alot of Americans seem to think European systems are just wonderful without drawbacks.

Jon Cumberbatch

9 ай бұрын

If only we could experience what goes through the likes of John Bolton brain! Then again would anyone want to be attached to a machine that's doing the breathing for them!

Steven Light

10 ай бұрын

Perhaps he ment we are not in Europe.

When the gentleman spoke of surveillance state and largest incarcerated population, I genuinely thought he was speaking of the United States, Orwell would be embarrassed that even he could not dream up such conditions as the US government has been able to impose.

The debate shows the stark difference between intelligence and ideology.

I never thought I'd say this, but fair play to John Bolton (for letting Varoufakis sort him out)

MegaLotusEater

Ай бұрын

lol

The gulf between approaches, literally between the constructive and the destructive, is encapsulated in this metaphor by Yanis Varoufakis: (38:58) "I'm looking forward to the discussion we're going to have, but let me finish with a hope that we do not make a desert and call it stability."

Behind Bolton you can see an elephant, an eagle, and a hand grenade. That describes his character. Thanks Yanis for your excellent presentation.

Bolton: How can we win the game for the U.S. elite. Varoufakis: How can we get to a more harmonious world.

kungfreddie

5 ай бұрын

@Eric MacRae and btw... conservatives?? We are not Americans.. we have 8 parties in parlament that are all along the political spectrum.. u should at least know that if ur speaking about a countries politics.

kungfreddie

5 ай бұрын

@Eric MacRae u know nothing about sweden.. I lived through it and didn't just skim through a wiki entry (if even that). The social democrats had the power in sweden most of the time between 1950-2000. And they did a lot of projects to bring ppl out of poverty, but the problem was that the government had monopoly in so many business, and where they didn't high taxes made them move out of the country, that at the end of the 70s sweden was almost bankrupt and they had to move to a more open market, lower taxes way of governing. And between 1995-2014 sweden was great! It wasn't until the massive immigration in 2015 that we became the rape capitol of Europe, that gun violence and gang activity broke out everywhere. And I'm not blaming that on the immigrants. I'm blaming the government that takes in more ppl than they can care for. It's like a crazy cat lady that has 30 cats even though she can.only care for 5. We all know what happens to ALL the cats on such cases, they live in starvation and sickness and misery. And now we haven't even.mentioned the brain drain and cash flight from countries that really need those things. U think it's poor ppl or low intelligence ppl that flee from syria or Africa? Hardly, since it cost like 10-20k usd to smugglers to do the trip. These ppl are needed in their home countries to rebuild. This is the new way of colonization, instead of taking land we take the most productive ppl. And no, that they ate productive doesn't help sweden either, it just hurts syria. Bcoz they come from a dictatorship where u don't trust anything with the government and they are smart they make sure not to pay tax when working and at the same time get welfare. You know nothing about the situation in sweden!

Eric MacRae

5 ай бұрын

@kungfreddie blaming the immigrants is the typical conservative tactic. It always has been. The conservative never actually criticise the system on how it generate the inequality that exist. Rather they always seeks the minority and the average Joe to blame for the systamic failure. For the record the problem that sweeden is facing is because of the neo-liberalism policies that it was introduced has a way to fix the problem of the 80-90s. It is the main governing policy that has governing the western world for the past 40 years. Data after data after data has been shown that it was a total failure to lift people out of poverty but it made them poorer and the rich richer. This includes Sweeden! I know the conservative want to say that the socialist policy is the fault of why our system failed. It was the same argument that Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Regan etc. All made in order to undo the Keynesian Era policies and established trickle-down economics as a way to solve the problem. So guess what the answer is not more capitalism or austerity measure. Those kinds of policies always leads to more problem down the road every single time. This is a basic facts about the world. We have data after data after data that trickle-down economics doesn't work and what you are advocating is trickle-down economics. You want to solve our problems here are some thing that we can do. Tax cut for the poor and tax the rich since trickle-down economic never works it only makes the rich richer and the poor poorer. Every 7 years forgive all debts. Give power to the working class, strengthen unions etc. In other words, give power to the people and not the elite. An no amount of as homienen changes any the facts that I have stated.

Excellent pair... I wonder how on earth Bolton acceped the invitation. Yanis, as always, managed to dominate. The next president of the World Goverment (in my dreams).....

if this is a movie, Bolton looks and talks like a villain from the start…

Francis Powell

3 ай бұрын

He exists in a world of villains, dictated by a belief that human nature is inherently evil.

When you invite someone like Bolton, you have to deal with the consequence that everyone in the room feels embarrassed to listen to his dangerous rants. Dont give guys like him a platform to basically agitate for war.

God, Bolton's introductory speech was awful! "We good they bad, let's fight". Can't believe how many lies, mischievous misleading claims and totally delusional remarks were made in such a small time period. If someone asks why is the US such a problem for humanity at large, do show them this clip! I was kinda expecting Yannis to point out more atrocities committed by the US (besides supported military coup in Greece or Saudi Arabia), but I still liked the classy ways in which he somewhat undermined Bolton's alarming calls and at the same time picture the US away from that benign god-sent position that these types of American try so hard to push despite all evidence pointing them wrong. I'm sure there must be another person way more capable and knowledgeable than Bolton to call for this type of debate,probably someone from the Ivy league. Frankly, he didn't cut it for this event, just leave populist politics for him!

Yanis was always a true speaker.

Incredible professor Varoufakis... the mass media should amplify this kind of message.

Γιάννης Σπίνος

Жыл бұрын

The mass nedia in Greece massacred Varoufakis in 2015

Paul Sufi

2 жыл бұрын

@panayotis panayotis I think that is untrue. He is just against this "philanthropist" private corporation.

panayotis panayotis

2 жыл бұрын

I like Yanis and he is a charming & well educated man . What I do not like, is his relationship with the monster George Soros and thus Bill Gates !!!

Paul Sufi

2 жыл бұрын

@Pat Den But why it is so fucking obvious? We should stop this way of consuming and realize what is really going on. Fascism is winning guys...

Bolton doesn't even know what capitalism is 😂

Varoufakis is extremely knowledgeable and gets his point across very effectively.

Just 30 minutes in and you can tell that Bolton is completely over his head

THIS WAS AN EXCELLENT CONVERSATION 👌

“I’m an outsider because I was a Republican at Yale” 👍 such a humble gargoyle

Finally a debate between Good and Evil. Who knew it would be televised?

Monarchial Entertainment, Barbados.

10 ай бұрын

lol lol .

KanDoAllThings

Жыл бұрын

SPOT ON!! THIS is the War we are truly fighting!

Anthony Peters

Жыл бұрын

😂

Evan Grey

Жыл бұрын

@Chris Cebu Of course?

Kinda disappointed there wasn't a real exchange at several points when Varoufakis asked Bolten to address his statements rather than hand waiving his entire response and just resorting to "Well everything is complicated and China is bad"

I had no Idea that Yanis Varoufakis was such an intelligent economist. Only knew his name and that he was minister of finances

Yanis an energetic intellectual Giant.

I couldn’t stop laughing hearing John Bolten. When he said Putin is playing a weak hand, I spilt my coffee laughing. Paid experts are paid to give expertise to everything the money wants. That’s called corruption and it’s common in so called science for centuries.

Thank you Holberg Prize Organization - so refreshing to hear a high level intelligent debate on these huge and looming topics - Mr. Veroufakis is excellent -love that he called him out on presenting a solution rather than analysis and re-statement of the problem

Shocking how Bolton knows so little about economics and yet wielded so much global power.

Seku Drame

6 ай бұрын

It’s shocking how much he know of anything at all, there don’t seem to be any substance in his talk apart from regurgitating an already established conservative views which has not context to anything but just a pure emotional reactions to a loosing a perceived power which never first existed.

Diane Hoekstra

10 ай бұрын

@Jane Doe you can condemn China without going to war with them. Their actions in Hong Kong and Xinchiang are terrible, but nothing on the scale of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

themarbleking

11 ай бұрын

He’s one of the smartest people in America. Which says a lot about their attitude to peace!

46:37 it's hard not to percieve the host sprinting away from Varoufakis' clear, direct challenge to Bolton as covering fire or preferential treatment.

‘ the worst way of being poor is poverty surrounded by wealth ‘ Yanis

I think Prof Varouvakis is brilliant in his analysis and recommendation.

Listening to a thinker, like Varoufakis, is refreshing - wow. However, he is not alone. Left leaning thinkers are emerging all over the world. In particular, I don't think humanity has ever seen its young people more engaged or broadly informed - ever. Today is April 13, 2021 and I am off to see if I can find any comments or analysis by Varoufakis and Bolton regarding Biden's work to date. Thank you Holberg Debate, and host, for an excellent afternoon.

wow. Bolton does not disappoint as the limping pedestrian he is.

Mr Bolton is a living '70s time capsule.

☭Comrade Natalie☭

3 ай бұрын

He kinda looks as if he came from one lol.

Walt McCarthy

10 ай бұрын

The sad thing is, back in the Vietnam War Bolton was a draft dodger. I think a lot of us can agree to disagree when our opponents comes from genuine place. This is not case with Bolton. He is a cynical, manipulator. Shame on him.

Cadhla O’Hanlon

2 жыл бұрын

Michael Garcia couldn't agree more.

Very interesting debate. Thank you.

Yanis: Bretton Woods was good Bolton: THAT'S MARXISM. I KNOW WHAT MARXISM IS AND THAT'S IT.

As Mr Bolton went through the list of threats I thought he was talking about America. My mistake.

Yanis Varoufakis is a very brilliant man, clear thoughts, inspiring.

The intellectual gulf between the Professor and the former Ambassador in the opening shots is immense. Vivem that this American technocrat has been influential in world affairs is scary in he least. He is blissfully dismissive of America's crimes of tormenting instability around the world.

Yanis wiped the floor with Bolton, just different leagues in terms of intellectual acumen.

lewis street

11 ай бұрын

It felt almost as if Bolton was a student trying to make sense of lecture that was above his knowledge base and intelectual capacity!

Dork Anderson

Жыл бұрын

Mr. Weapons of Mass Destruction.

senglee koay

Жыл бұрын

There is no way Bolton is Yanis' intellect.

Terence Shared

2 жыл бұрын

I came away with the same conclusion. One is a true intellectual. The other is a war mongerer.

Ooooof I would of never in a million years have imagined yanis and the Warner bros character being in dialogue lol

Excellent stuff - especially start at 1:56:00 to the end!

Yanis wins this one. Thank you Yanis.

I'm gonna watch more of this guy's videos, he seems honest, smart, and I just gotta know how his name is really pronounced.

1:02:48 "The service of human happiness" - which apparently is anathema to Bolton

Essentially, Varoufakis sounds like a proper scholar possessed of a wonderful understanding of post-19th-century history, whereas Bolton sounds like a crank hellbent on war.

YouTube Curates Content, algorithm is a lie

Жыл бұрын

Bolton: We need to keep threatening people that we'll punch them in the face. Veroufakis: You've already punched certain groups of people in the face...repeatedly!!! Subsequently, people behave quite badly and dysfunctionally when you punch them in the face. Perhaps, we need to find a way where we stop punching people in the face. Otherwise, you're stuck in a never ending conflict where possible progress is awlays stifled. Unless you're a large stock holder in defense contractors or a compete duplicitous psychopath, I fail to see how your argument is in any way functional. Bolton: But people behave badly when they're punched in the face. Therefore, we need to keep punching people in the face. Veroufakis: Idiot

john malovitch

Жыл бұрын

They butchered his last name so many times

‘Instability is inevitable’ because of all the wars and confrontation created by the US, not to mention the colour revolutions instigated by the CI A

47:00 Interesting observation by Scott Gates... "I'd like to focus on the notion of stability. To some degree you're both naturally focusing on two dimensions. Ambassador Bolton naturally is focusing on insecurity and focusing on the security sector, and Professor Varoufakis is focused on the economics. And that's to be expected. I knew that was going to be happening all along."

"We have always been a party that puts policy over personality" "The return of the Republican Party to a reagenesque approach is something that we can accomplish" ok.

Nice work Yanis!

Would love to hear part two 2023 edition

Yanis showing us again why he’s one of the brightest and lucid minds of the 21st century

Psilent Music UK

8 ай бұрын

@Stéphane du Père-de-la-croix I haven't read a single comment from you here that actually deals with why you think Varoufakis' economic suggestions during the debt crisis are unviable. I imagine that is because you can't actually make such an analysis, because you're an ideologue. I invite you to prove me wrong.

Psilent Music UK

8 ай бұрын

@Jason Charalambides Your political views can be summed up as "everything I don't like or doesn't work is Socialism." How unsophisticated.

PesoTalks

9 ай бұрын

Lucid is a beautiful term on him... I almost thought Bolton was asleep for like most of his lifetime.

Jane Doe

11 ай бұрын

Not even close. He's smart, but not on that high of a level

Stratos Ledee

11 ай бұрын

It’s worth learning Greek just to hear him address Parliament daily. His sense of humor is blindingly funny

If Bolton said it was raining outside I would get my swimming trunks and suncream and shades and have a Barbeque.

Darko Vignjevic

2 жыл бұрын

Today's weather forecast today is partially sunny from morning to mid day with a high chance of carpet rain before nightfall. Special notice: Due to expected white phosphorus fog tomorrow morning, all residents who suffer from civilian or innocence conditions are advised to stay indoors till noon

Saddened that the host let Bolton off the hook and not have him answer Yanis' question at the 46:00 mark.

The super powers cannot continue to dictate to the world what they themselves are.

Moderator was absolutely terrible, please don’t have him again and the two guests were great. I enjoyed listening to both of their points of views, focus and perspective on the questions being asked of them - love these kinds of discussions

Yanis is a decent human being. which one cannot say about Bolton.

Thank you Holberg Prize for bringing this magnificent debate between two different visions. One representing the vision of a progressively declining empire with a its dominance …” you are either with us or against us”… and its determination to retain control if necessary by force, and the second view of a global citizen, presenting a vision based on social justice, elimination of poverty, respect to the natural environment and sustainable social development. Fraternity, humanity above the accumulation of capital … money, profit, greed, power and control …. A teachable moment specially for the young and future generation to build a better “world.

Paul G

Жыл бұрын

Bolton is a far right political actor.. he worked for Trump for god sakes.. I love watching these types of videos and I think they clearly have a majority European audience. So I like to take a moment to say.. I’m an American and disagree with Bolton 1000s a day! Not all Americans think like him. He is not stating American views, he is stating neo-conservative views, hegemony without limits views, America or else views. That’s not my position. I think China is unfairly demonized in the west, and China is unfairly apologized for at times as well. I do think that China not being any type of Democracy at the executive level is something that is very concerning given how much power it has. America with all its problems has potential for moderation due to its beleaguered democracy, for now it’s still a democracy. Either way, the world will only survive if some version of coexistence and shared influence between superpowers of the world exists to solve the greatest challenges on our horizon, climate change and instability that Yannis talks about.

A debate is a fitting format for these two gentlemen. Why not. Let's keep in mind though that both have time to spare because real politics phased them out. It's tempting to call both of them extreme but I would rather say: simplistic. The human mind is wired to look for simple ideas that encompass as much as possible. Vanity pulls us in that direction, verbal ability makes for treacherous confidence. What keeps us at bay is reality - if we honor it. The true challenge is actual politics: real issues and real outcomes in the face of real complexity. A whole different conversation.

What's up with the moderator can even pronounce Yanis last name and helping out Bolton are 2 vs 1 or what, Yanis handle them Flawlessly

The moderator kept changing the subject every other intervention which completely interfered with what could have otherwise been an interesting debate where participants could have replied to each others specific points.

Go Varofakis. He crushed it

Bolton should be allowed to give his response to Varoufakis's strategy of a new Bretton Woods!! He shouldn't be shielded from having to reveal his total lack of new ideas and perspective.

Bolton is clearly over his head here. Varoufakis is brilliant!

Props to the chairman for not sitting on a chair.

Fascinating talk by Yanis Varoufakis. The Moderator was not up to the level, asked some very basic and obvious questions instead of using the opportunity to jostle some other critical points.

Two men, with totally different interests...not only perspective...

Fascinating "debate" for sure.

"Capitalism is about freedom" If only

When Bolton starts off describing China at the start, I thought he was describing the US.

Hmmm Hmmm

6 ай бұрын

@Jetson Bloathog yes, dictatorship of the proletariat as opposed to dictatorship of the bourgeois in the us

DietyOfWind

7 ай бұрын

@Jon Foster You are completely wrong about the US civil war and the states that attempted secessions own articles of secession directly refute the very points you made. The south also initiated the entire thing by attacking a fort they felt entitled to not only just once but twice.

Steven Light

10 ай бұрын

Ha the times change the people are the same ,strong leadership is key .

Global stability will Be, once enough of us Groove as One, for a sufficient amount of time!!! Groovism will Be our salvation!! The instinct of music will proliferate us!! Globally empowered, music will Be miraculous!!

This debate is strange: it’s like your financial advisor trying to talk about your investment strategy, but you just want to talk about your divorce and your ex...