Always loving the Commodore 64 and Amiga content Buddy 👊🏻😁🍻🍻🇦🇺

@15-Peter-20

2 жыл бұрын

💙💙💙 Rip John Sillett 💙💙💙

Glad you mentioned Body Blows, I persevered with it back in the day thinking I must be missing something as all the reviews were so positive. Bought it on GoG a while back and lasted about 3 miniutes, pretty much an unplayable mess with terrible AI.

@infesticon

2 жыл бұрын

Try the 2 player Amiga demo, had we got that as body blows I would have been happy.

@krissymarklewis1793

2 жыл бұрын

The main problem is the game mechanics, no sense of impact and holding down the fire button to charge a power-up is shite in 2 player mode as your opponent could tell you were doing it a mile off. Also didn't like the art style though the music was great.

@richard7645

Жыл бұрын

It was terrible, it's about as good as dangerous streets lol

I think Stuart Campbell was the most overrated reviewer and I give him an overall rating of 73%.

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

Lol hes responsible for 5 in this video and 2 in the last

@ncf1

2 жыл бұрын

@@oldstylegaming hehe I feel therefore I may have overrated him... may I herefore amend that figure to a more reasonable 56%. :)

If Body Blows had been for the Megadrive or Super Nintendo it would have got a poor reception.

Even back in the day when I was but a lad and bought all the (ridiculously expensive on import) UK Amiga magazines, it always amused me when they'd have these highly granular scores as if the reviewers were dissolving the games in some kind of chemical bath and precisely measuring the resulting constituents.

Body Blows seemed to just fill a gap after the Amiga's Street Fighter 2 was so disappointing. I didn't think it had a lot of depth to it and didn't play it much. But both Mortal Kombats were great on the Amiga (especially if you had a 2nd floppy disk drive and 2Mb of RAM for MK2). The title music for MK2 is paula doing some of her best work IMO

Game reviewing was always a bit of a shady business. Today it doesn't really matter because you can just watch someone play the game on youtube or check metacritic for an overview, but back in the day the printed magazines were pretty much the only way to get recommendations unless you knew someone who already owned a copy.

CVG giving Rise of the Robots 90%. Now that's what you call overated. Amiga power did mark it a lot, lot lower.

I remember Body Blows was the one that you could win any match by picking the Cossack character and repeatedly hitting the fire button to activate his unbeatable spinning special move.

I'd have given a high score to Legends Of Valour.. With the map in the box and the guilds and everything i loved it at the time, a really forward thinking game. (betting on cockroach races? haha!) I don't remember the disk swapping.. Maybe if you had more ram the disk swapping was reduced or something? Or maybe I had two floppy drives.. Jeez my memory sucks. Total agreement about all the others though, what a mess!

I love this series. Your comments are fantastic, the Miami chase 'bald tires on an icerink' made me laugh because its so true.

Last Ninja 3 on the Amiga is weird: It's uglier than the C64 version even though it has better colors, but somehow worse art. But what really kills it is the Soundtrack. Reyn Ouwehands score on the C64 is a masterpiece, while the Amiga conversion just doesn't do it for me. If we see the game in isolation and pretend the C64 version doesn't exist, then yeah, it's a good, albeit not great isometric action game - 65-70% is arguable. But if we look at the C64 version and then the Amiga version, then I fully agree with your 56% at best rating.

I remember an Amiga mag (probably The One) saying how they preferred Body blows to Street fighter 2 on the SNES because it was much simpler to control with only one button. I loved it back in the day but it hasn't aged well.

Oh God, why do the Last Ninja games look so bloody awful on the Amiga??

Thanks again OSG. Totally agree with Last Ninja 3 on Amiga. Still got the boxed version, bought on an Amiga exposition in cologne, back in the days. Last Ninja 2 on Amiga was also bad. Only Last Ninja Remix, which is a good port of Last Ninja 1, was outstanding. For some reason LN3 on C64 is also not as good as the predecessors. Graphics and Sound were great but somehow the gameplay felt different and a little more clumsy.

Sensible soccer is still one of my favourite spots games alongside Tiger woods on the PS2. Good video again mate.

Despite being a shitty game Body Blows is still an Amiga classic. Street Fighter II port was utter shit too but we all loved it back in the day, it's like guilty pleasure.

Great video mate, unreal some of these reviews 😂

Got an Amiga after already owning a mega drive and snes. I couldn’t believe that so many games seemed to update the display at 25hz instead of 50 making so many games run in jerkyvision. Even old systems like the c64 didn’t do that

So much truth. All Epyx games were significantly better on Commodore 64 than on Amiga. Body Blows was crap, but you had to find a title that satisfied Amiga users who drooled over Street Fighter 2 on the Snes. Pinball games were overrated (they disappear in front of, say, Devil Crush on Megadrive or Pc Engine). However many editors of that period were corrupt or influenced by the advertising that was published on the magazines, so often the votes were modified by advertisers (after all it is so even today ...)

Hey man I love your videos!! Good job

After watching this and your last Amiga Power vid I'm glad I swerved the mag back in the day! Some really dodgy scores awarded here which deffo makes yer think there was some 'fixing' going on....70% for Battle Squadron? 57% for Benefactor and he's scores over 80 for those piles of shite? Think how many people missed out on some top games and ended up with garbage through these totally off the mark reviews? because like you pointed out, these mags were trusted guides on what/not to purchace back then. This Stuart Campbell geezer sounds like he was a feckin liability! Great vid m8 :)

No shmup on the Amiga is better than Battle squadron.

Man i always catch your vids about 10 hours after you put them out but here i am now haha. Great video as always buddy and yeah Last Ninja 3 sucked on the Amiga and as for miami chase i hated it, but that was just me. Keep up the great work mate and roll on the next one.

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

This one was scheduled mate as i didnt finish till 2am so it only went public at 1pm

@eskey691

2 жыл бұрын

@@oldstylegaming Nice gave me something to watch with me dinner.

Love it when you do the Amiga stuff 👍

"Even more of a piss-take" - classic OSG! Thank you for sharing your historic knowledge and modern reviews. My gaming life kicked off with a Colecovision but my A500 was a daily obsession.

I definitely agree with Body Blows, a younger me was convinced it was every bit as good as street fighter 2. I played it recently and it is terrible! Good graphics and maybe good music but the gameplay is horrible, horrendous loading times with the disk swapping and why does it take about 5 seconds to get up after each knockdown?. I did enjoy Miami chase though, granted I have not played it in about 15 years so who knows. All I remember is you keep getting pulled over by the police and have to sit and wait for that picture of the cop to load before you can go back to playing. Good vid!

I'm currently going through issues of Amiga Format in order via the Archive. Brings back fond memories, as does this video.

thank you so much for all your videos really enjoy thank you

OSG talking about the Amiga? Sign me up!

I think we all rated graphics higher back in the day. Now after so many years I've seen games with vastly Superior graphics when you go back to retro games you don't get that Rush of excitement going on from an unusually nice looking game

@bleekcer

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, if the graphics was great, it was almost certainly a sure selling hit, even if the gameplay and the review scores sucked. We still have this tendencies today, only not so extreme.

Good video. I remember miami vice, an absolutely unplayable piece of s… :D

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

True that mate

Its all about opinions and I enjoyed your piece here. I don’t agree that Legends of Valour was overrated. I thought it was ambitious and full of atmosphere. I also had an A500 albeit with a second drive so that helped. But certainly in your list here there were some very suspect scores!

I always smoke a joint...The music is always gold

This is my favourite youtube channel!

Speaking of ridiculous review scores reminds me of two games that a certain Stewart C Russell of Amiga Computing awarded to Scorpion (93%) & Trained Assassin (95%). They were by the same developer, which makes me wonder if Stewart was their mate or if money exchanged hands. Both games were average at best. He also gave Battle Squadron 109%. I mean it’s a good game, but I’m guessing maths wasn’t his best subject at school. 😂

Lol, I remember legends of Valour, lots of nice ads in pc mags of the time, it was meant to be the start of a new series, I played the demo which was combat locked but you could get around that by throwing your sword at npcs! The guards didn’t like that they also would accost you if you looked in to the windows of houses which was hilarious but very impressive for the time.

Yo OSG my man hope you are well mate. I hated when they'd do this I didn't get pocket money so I used to save my school dinner money to buy games so was raging when I fell for the review

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing worse mate

Ah, Amiga Power, the magazine that claimed Rainbow Islands was the best Amiga game of all time.

@MEGAMIGA

2 жыл бұрын

Well, it is a great game, though

@gavindownes2213

2 жыл бұрын

No way was Rainbow Islands better than Parasol Stars or even Bubble Bobble. Rainbow is so bloody repetitive. Cool bosses but the stages themselves were rubbish.

I think some games were given higher reviews because of the publisher rather than the quality. Body Blows was very limited but I thought it was just me as the only beatemup I used to play was IK+. Its strange how looking back at some of the Amiga games just how much they have aged and how cramped some games look. The main sprite just didnt have a large area to move around in compared to todays games. Great series that are worth watching just as much for the comments as the on screen stuff

Just rewatching this vid, I have to agree with Mr OSG. It's not just Last Ninja 3...most System 3 games were better on the c64, Myth, Flimbo's quest etc.

So glad to see Body Blows on the list. I hated it as a kid. It just played so empty.

Graham Taylor, the worst England manager? I'll raise you Steve McCLaren.

I best magazine of that era was A.C.E Magazine. Yes it wasn't solely Amiga but it was truly the most professional. Other than that CU Amiga, The One For Amiga, Amiga Format crapped all over Amiga Power in my humble opinion.

"I'm not against waggling.." I know I should say something here.... ;-) Another great vid, thanx!

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

Lol wagglimg was probably my favourite pastime back in the amiga days

Hahaha , as often , I am the odd man out. Why ? Because i loooooved Legends of valour. I’ve played through it many times. Last ninja was da bomb on the older machines as you say , and finally , body blows was not my cup of tea at all. The other ones I have to take your word for it , as I know nothing about them.

There is nothing Better than the test of time. It os hardcto judge recent publishef videogames. Video game critics (specially in that era) tend to give Much importance to technology (specially graphics) .i would bé amazed if i saw Legends of valour in that era (3d first person vision) but after all these years i completely agree with you

Shadow of the beast nuff said

i think i get the impression that guys like Stuart Campbell had their own business interests also, he joined sensible software in the end

I was given Body Blows for Xmas as a kid after asking for it on the strength of the reviews, and I can still remember the horrible disappointment ☹️

Totally agree, The Last Ninja games were simply too dated for the Amiga

Reminds me of Rise of the Robots. Some magazines gave >90% because of the graphics.

Goal! Is far the best footie game on the Amiga. Dino Dini's classic

There is also a game that is very underrated and it is actually a feat you never see it on KZread. great game. I do understand why it is too hard for KZread on KZread is too much suppressed. Walker !

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

I love Walker

@eddielegs344

2 жыл бұрын

@@oldstylegaminghehe Good taste ;)

Did they have value for money element in the reviews? Some mags did, I never really subscribed to Amiga Power (Amiga Format or CU Amiga and latterly Amiga Active!) i think some of these had a VFM element?

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

Im not sure, i thought some did but maybe that was late zzaps

I always thought that Forgotten Worlds was massively overrated on both the C64 and Amiga. The Amiga version looked almost arcade perfect, but played terribly.

My god I'm sooo lucky. I missed all of them!!!

Love his content

Rip John Sillett 💙💙💙

I used to love my Amiga back in the day. Making tracker music was great. Looking back now, the games were pretty bad. The Mega Drive and SNES were much better for gaming.

@mr.y.mysterious.video1

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Of course those consoles contained hardware specifically designed for games unlike the Amiga. Didn’t stop many Amiga owners claiming otherwise at the time though

Thanks

Agree with Body Blows, totally overrated.

@krissymarklewis1793

2 жыл бұрын

I thought Kick off 2 was overrated too, its no Sensi.

The sex Olympics never ever gets into a top charts shocking 😁

Very harsh on Graham Taylor. He was unlucky, injuries, didn't have the players, Koeman not being sent off. Revie (didn't qualify for anything) and Allardyce (1 game then shamed the job) much worse.

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

I love Sam Allardyce ....wish he'd never left sunderland lol... he would have been a great manager if he hadnt been stitched up by the media

Omg Graham Taylor!! Your players deteriorate throughout the season no matter what you do. You get a massive cash injection and buy big players and they are all shit in less than a season 😂 was shockingly bad

In my opinion Shadow of the beast and Xenon 2 were incredibly overrated as well. For me they were impressive to look at but terrible to play.

@chrisperry5244

2 жыл бұрын

Xenon 2 was incredible mate! Worth it for the soundtrack alone! It's all down to opinion though 👍

@JonasRosenven

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisperry5244 It didn't like how slow it was and how terrible the hit detection on the shots you fired was. The soundtrack sounded great but it just drove my me nuts because it was so short and constantly looped. It DID look very pretty, though. I'll give it that much.

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@JonasRosenven i agree with both of you, the soundtrack was...no still is awesome but i have to also agree that the game for me is too slow... looks great and sounds class but in the end it would be a bit boring without the music

@gumdeo

2 жыл бұрын

Beast 1 would have been good if they had toned down the difficulty, like the PC Engine version.

@chrisperry5244

2 жыл бұрын

@@oldstylegaming it had a great style to it too though, the character in the shop where you could upgrade your weapons was hilarious! It was slow but tbf the other parts of it made up for its lack lustre pacing 😬. Beast 1 was basically a showcase for paralex scrolling iirc, insanely difficult too

Subbed ..don't agree with body blows tho ..

Graham Taylor was, on the face of it, potentially a great game. Unfortunately, my abiding memory was that no matter what you did, all your player ratings only ever went down. Bugged.

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

You should be able to pick your starting team and it saves over for all the matches and you can just switch in and out if needed...that would have improved it a lot

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body blows was terrible

This is the kind of accent that even fellow Britbongs make fun of.

@oldstylegaming

3 ай бұрын

Actually its one of the most loved accents in the uk....its only foreign idiots who think they invented the English language that make fun of it.....

@user-qjvqfjv

3 ай бұрын

@@oldstylegaming What accent is it? Northern Irish? Welsh? Cornish?

@oldstylegaming

3 ай бұрын

@@user-qjvqfjv northeast England Geordie

4:11 Sky High Stuntman would have been so much better if they'd just set most enemies as one-hit-to-kill. Requiring multiple shots just ruined the game, and everything felt too zoomed in. Your score of 55% is about right. 5:08 Miami Chase was garbage. You were very generous with your score of 48%! 6:04 Rugby: The World Cup was vastly over-rated. The fact that most of the team ends up occupying the same spot on the map is a total joke. Are they all on each others shoulders or something? The only way to score is to run diagonally out to the side, then fire the ball back across to the other side and do another diagonal run. The best part is definitely the conversions. Audiogenic's game World Class Rugby was much more enjoyable to play as a rugby fan.

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Sky High is so close to being great, those heat seekers too are far to frequent and persistent...if it wasnt for them i think i could handle the multi hit kill enemies

That name Stuart Campbell again, go figure. I'm gonna take issue with you labelling Graham Taylor as the worst England Manager ever, unluckiest maybe but far from the worst. He got things wrong which he readily admitted but most of the best players he inherited from the Robson era were coming to the end of their careers and the two genuinely world class players not over the hill, Gazza and the emerging Shearer were often unavailable through injury. Add in the cowardly refereeing that failed to send off Koeman and award us a penalty which would have put us within touching distance of qualifying for USA 94 and the dire quality of England players available at the time and I feel he was hard done by. He was a far superior manager to Keegan and McClaren. Yes I am a Watford fan.

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

Lol you can tell you are a Watford fan haha... to me though he will always be the manager that didnt take us to the world cup

@bobrogers4019

2 жыл бұрын

Graham was a bit unlucky in the qualifying campaign for the World Cup, and qualified for the Euros when it was 8 teams. But what was he doing with his team selections - I think he picked the names out of a hat!

@Barcrest

2 жыл бұрын

The mamager that almost got the title at villa before becoming england manager. He got luxky with watford and that villa squad.

@smalon75

2 жыл бұрын

@@Barcrest I'm not sure how he got lucky with the Watford and Villa squads. When he took over at Watford they were a nothing club in the old 4th division. He then built both the squad and the infrastructure of the club before leading them into the top flight in record time to finish 2nd behind Liverpool and also to an FA Cup Final. Villa had been relegated to the 2nd Division when he took over and he immediately got them promoted and challenging for the title.

'Have you ever wondered what its like to drive with bald tyres on an ice rink?' :D :D

i knew this would happen, sure enough first game, you know i love the last ninja games and last ninja 3 would get 95% from me

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

On amiga?

@robchissy

2 жыл бұрын

@@oldstylegaming i just love the last ninja games, so yeah on the amiga

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@robchissy i love the last ninja games... but only on the system it was meant for

@robchissy

2 жыл бұрын

@@oldstylegaming i even enkoyed the last ninja 2 on speccy

@oldstylegaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@robchissy what about on the Amstrad?

Magic Pockets, is an overrated game for me. Get passed the Betty Boo opening and it’s awful.

I loved the Last Ninja games on C64 (Though had left it by time LN3 came out). Last Ninja 3 and Ninja Remix I felt were decent on the Amiga. Even though the latter had much harder skeletons in the dungeon level. Last Ninja 2 was an abomination on the 16bits though.

Dungeon Master > Legend of Valor