0:58... Ooops... I call that part 'imagination time'

@simontravers2715

10 ай бұрын

But it’s alright ‘cause he drives a Jaaaaaag!

What a team that was. Brawn and Todt running the team, doing the politics and strategy, and knowing just how good a driver they had so they could think outside the box. All 3 of them were integral to their eventual domination.

@zinddy

10 ай бұрын

Its sad that these guys had to work their hands of, and max verstappen just turns up at the race weekend and the team does all 4 him

Ferrari strategy masterclass. Those were the days. Having The Michael as your driver certainly helps.

@marklittle8805

10 ай бұрын

Having Jean Todt and Ross Brawn running the show is key. You can't dictate strategy from behind the wheel easily once the race starts. As Leclerc and Sainz are finding out. Ferrari is a farce when it comes to this stuff except those years where the outside talent was brought in the run things....

@demdjen77

Ай бұрын

@@marklittle8805 this strategy only with Michael Schumacher.

there is small interesting tidbit: when Schumacher took the lead and began his "qualy stint" he actually misread the gap he was shown on the pitbox. He thought Hakkinen was actually closing the gap. He also mistook the Minardi of Tuero for the Mclaren which actually led to his short stint through the dirt in the last corner of the track. That stint cost him nearly 5 seconds but it was still enough to beat the Mclarens that day.

I had the pleasure of working in and around ferrari in 2003/4/5. That team was a machine. Ross Brawn and Adrian Newey together would be unstoppable

@davidchapman3042

10 ай бұрын

Literally unstoppable,its for the better ross bechame the f1’s tecnichal director but he blessed adrian with ground effects regulations which he’s a master at

@blackjacktrial

10 ай бұрын

Reserve drivers: Hamilton, Vettel and Verstappen.

@davidchapman3042

10 ай бұрын

@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 wow that will be fireworks no way it ll work , michael and senna couldn’t be in the same team considering how questionable ethics they had while racing and yeeting rivals out for championship gains. So it’s fair to assume the team despite titanic as it sounds, they won’t finish a season without crashing half the races, and besides all of this ferrari never allow drivers free to fight escpecially with championship contender cars.

Doubtful anyone can do this with the toffee tyres Formula 1 has now. Mansell also did qualy laptimes in the 1987 British Grand Prix, chasing down Piquet. 11 lap records in 15 laps near the end of the race.

@yashparanjape5211

10 ай бұрын

These days the other driver would pit to cover off the threat

@naufalkusumah2192

10 ай бұрын

that was the result of tyre war, it pushed for innovation in tyre technology. Whereas nowadays F1 dictates what Pirelli has to do

@JohnSmithShields

10 ай бұрын

I think making teams use all three compounds, forcing two stop minimum, races wouldn't be a bad thing.

@gentmusic3554

10 ай бұрын

Nowadays the driver behind would accept second place and/or try to get their rival a penalty

@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1

10 ай бұрын

Which is why when anyone says imagine how fast the F2004 would be on slicks I laugh and imagine how fast the W11 would be on decent tires/tire war tires

This and the 4-stopper in France '04 are strategic masterclasses. Of course it was easier for them as you know... the Michael could pull everything off.

@AidanMillward

10 ай бұрын

Michael could have done a ten stop in that OP car and still won 🤣

@Rosario_Verano

10 ай бұрын

@@AidanMillward Someone said that if you have the best car you can run whichever strategy you want. I cannot remember who was it. 😂

@CR-iu2zt

10 ай бұрын

@@AidanMillwardsounds like verstappen in austria

@someoneunseen5168

4 ай бұрын

​@@AidanMillwardrenault were quicker on the michelins at france 04...

@francojoeulm.florin3545

Ай бұрын

@@Rosario_Verano you could say that with the 04 car but the 98 ferrari was clearly the 2nd fastest that year and the goodyear tires didn't help either, that 98 performance was simply magic, man.

But what about the 4 stopper at the French GP? That was an amazing Micheal drive.

@DanielHarveyDyer

10 ай бұрын

I was only a little kid, but I really remember that one happening live

I do love those late-90s West McLarens, beautiful cars, and the beryllium engines fascinate me, although separating fact from mythology is tough. Also loving the Sean Lock drops.

I remember this race. Those "qualifying" laps were alien at the time ... we just couldn't tell what was happening. Other than the engineering of F1 it's those times when great drivers/teams just throw down everything they have and have these otherworldly performances, above their level, that has made F1 so incredibly good. Of course when we go several seasons without those performances and with the tight technical rules of today it's getting more and more rare to see.

@Dat-Mudkip

10 ай бұрын

I think that since they've introduced the budget cap that perhaps the FIA should consider relaxing the durability mandates of the cars. If you can afford to blow up eight engines on one car and still be competitive while remaining in the budget, I say go for it.

@Scoots1994

10 ай бұрын

@@Dat-Mudkip good idea but not far enough ... how about having the ONLY rule being the budget cap?

@Dat-Mudkip

10 ай бұрын

@@Scoots1994 You would then run into other problems. Ignoring the fact that safety would most certainly be compromised, you would end up with ideas too extreme or would just outright hurt the racing product as a whole. Driver aids, oversized aero (which would make the dirty air problem even worse), nitrous, excessive fuel consumption, questionable driving positions, excessively long and wide cars, cars too light to handle any sort of impact, just to name a few issues.

@Scoots1994

10 ай бұрын

@@Dat-Mudkip sounds fun. But okay, let's set maximum dimensions and safety standards. The rest I'm fine with

I still think they have too much tyre data nowadays. Make them use hards all throughout practice and qualifying. Then only get to use softs and mediums in the race, however they see fit. They’d have to work it out in the fly

the good old splash and dash...

@bodavid5873

10 ай бұрын

INDYCAR still does it

@ericmcmanus5179

10 ай бұрын

Damn right man. The good old days.

@nomar5spaulding

10 ай бұрын

Splash and dash is what you call it when you pull into a fast food joint and just take a piss without buying anything.

Good stuff. Love the stories. Keep it up. Hard to believe the era of F1 I grew up watching is history now. We're getting old.

My brain hurts with stories like these. I was diagnosed with a fair iq, but I never believed it. And whenever there are plots or strategies that get intricate, many moving parts involved, I feel justified. This one lost me halfway. Knowing that your tyres behave like that, ok. Can do. Thinking up ways to use that knowledge for a win… instant brainfreeze. Kudos to Brawn

An excellent video in the first place, but the Sean Lock reference honestly had me in stitches😂😂

Aidan, I'm loving these almost daily videos. Thanks, bud

7:20 Mistake made here. He was 29s ahead of Coulthard, not Mika. Mike was almost 20s behind Coulthard at this point.

"I can't believe it Martin, He's going faster and faster" Exclaimed Murray Walker, as Michael banged in fastest lap after fastest lap. To give you an idea, in first 13 or so laps, the order was established and us Schumi fans had settled for fact that our man would only make 3rd at best behind the rapid Mclarens. Then the magic started to happen. These were the masters at work.

Thank you!

Now that was a dream team.

If only Schumacher hadn't run into the back of DC at Spa, it'd been 96-90 going to Suzuka. Would he still have stalled in the grid knowing he only needed second?

@someoneunseen5168

4 ай бұрын

True... And even if he did stall, he was already up to 2nd (3rd) in Japan before the debris destroyed his tyre. and the ball bearing failure while comfortably leading 97 british gp. Very close to 9 titles..... And thats not counting 99 or 06.....

@demdjen77

Ай бұрын

@@someoneunseen5168 Or 13 titles if he stayed in 2007 and 2008...

To think that the following year, Ferrari would do such a botched job at this very venue that it killed any chance for Irvine to win the championship. Edit : nevermind, the botched pit stop was at the European gp, not the Hungarian one

@LD-oq9lx

10 ай бұрын

@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 Irvine got a lot closer than a lot of drivers that where hailed as future world champions and I'm a sucker for underdog stories, Irvine was set to leave the scuderia that year and I cannot think of a better way to give the middle finger to the Schumacher-todd Clique than to snatch schumi's dream from under his nose,

@lucianstefanboros6661

10 ай бұрын

What was the botched job in Hungary 1999? Irvine struggled with understeer, this is why he ran wide and lost second place to Coulthard.

@lucianstefanboros6661

10 ай бұрын

@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 Come on, Irvine was better than many give him the credit to! There were other lucky champs in history or drivers in contention till the final race that no one regards them as championship caliber material such as Tony Brooks in 1959, Clay Regazzoni in 1974, Jacques Laffite in 1981, John Watson in 1982, perhaps even Rene Arnoux in 1983 and Damon Hill in 1994.

@LD-oq9lx

10 ай бұрын

@@lucianstefanboros6661 the botched job was the 28 sec pit stop that brought him out of the points, I made a mistake and misremembered that it was at the Hungarian gp, it was at the European gp instead.

Schumachers greatest drive ever imo

@Dre_The_Millennial

10 ай бұрын

Spanish GP 1996

@JohnSmithShields

10 ай бұрын

​@@Dre_The_MillennialJerez 1997 wasn't bad either.

@natetran

10 ай бұрын

@@Dre_The_Millennialyeah it was this

@AidanMillward

10 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmithShields Monaco qualifying 2006 as well kekw.

@JohnSmithShields

10 ай бұрын

@@AidanMillward oooof lol

Back in the day when Ferrari knew what a strategy was.

It was really really hard to overtake on the 98 version of the track with shorter straight. The 4 horsemen (Todt, Schumacher, Brawn, Byrn) were really really strong

I’m curious of you opinion as to what effect you think Charles and Ferrari being able to test the car like they did in the Schumacher era would have on the team?

7:22 Correction, 29 seconds ahead of Coulthard

Amazing - Ferrari used to be good at strategy!

Was Schumacher's strategy changed at his first stop already? Him dropping behind Villeneuve wasn't really planned I guess, although it allowed Schumacher to show he was really faster than the McLarens. He only couldn't pass them on track, so Ferrari short-fueled him to undercut the McLarens at the second round of pitstops. The undercut was quite strong, as tire degradation was high. McLaren then made several mistakes; they pitted Coulthard one lap after Schumacher, but fueled him till the end of the race, so he had a long stop and dropped behind Schumacher. They then brought in Häkkinen a few laps later, so he got undercut as well. At the same time, Häkkinen's car developed some problem and for the next few laps he decided to fight Coulthard for whatever reason, which cost Coulthard valuable seconds. When he finally was released, Coulthard couldn't match Schumacher's pace because he was carrying way more fuel (Coulthard's second stop was quite early, which gave Schumacher plenty of time to exploit his weight advantage). Even with a mistake Schumacher managed to build enough of a gap to stay in the lead after his third stop. Apart from that mistake Schumacher did well, but it was more McLaren defeating themselves than Ferrari brilliance.

@AidanMillward

10 ай бұрын

Brawn changed it before the first stop.

@demdjen77

Ай бұрын

@@AidanMillward No, Brawn changed it after the 1st stop because Schumacher came out of the pits still behind Coulthard. He said to Schumacher: "We are switching to plan B now."

This is why 202x Ferrari needs to fire their local soothsayers and bring in ruthless non-italians to run strategy. It's no longer a "Do notta worry we fix later" its a case of "We fix it properly right"

@nehylen5738

10 ай бұрын

The strategy was actually ran by a Spaniard: Inaki Rueda. Now a Brit in Ravin Jain. So that base should already have been covered some time ago!

2:03 Not a car issue but that British race deserves a huge *

@7:56 you been clicking on Schumacher/Villeneuve's Wiki :D :D

@AidanMillward

10 ай бұрын

I click on a lot of wikis for stats. 😅

Hello Aidan, Have you considered doing some of these "storytime" videos on famous fictional races, like the Boonta Eve Classic you did some years ago? I always liked that one, and having a rundown of the Casa Cristo 4000 or 91st running of the Grand Prix (both from Speed Racer) would be fun. Or perhaps a story of Ricky Bobby's Talladega run?

@andygreener3130

10 ай бұрын

Le Mans (Mr Cool)

The mechanical problem on Hakkinen's car started just after Schumacher passed him during the pitstop (or maybe one lap later at most). This was obvious as he previously had a 3.5 second gap on Coulthard and was obviously quicker, but just one lap after the pitstop Coulthard was right on him having gained 1.5 seconds on his teammate. That would have been impossible considering Hakkinen's pace and the reason Ferrari's strategy succeeded is entirely due to Hakkinen's mechanical issue. Without that, maybe he would have been able to beat Coulthard but not Hakkinen. IMHO the best race of Schumacher that season was Buenos Aires, as it was the only time he actually was quicker than both McLarens (at Magny-Cours the McLarens were blocked by Irvine for most of the race, at Silverstone Hakkinen completely dominated and had a huge gap on Schumacher until he made a small mistake after the safety car, at Spa Hakkinen was eliminated at the first corner, at Monza Coulthard was quicker until his engine blew up once again).

@AidanMillward

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, I think when it's all added up the only two races where Schumacher beat the two McLarens on merit were Argentina and France. The other times was something going wrong on the cars. Not so much Schumacher being so good, more the McLarens being so fragile.

@someoneunseen5168

4 ай бұрын

Lol.... Yeah it was a newey rocketship where one way or another michael took it to the last race... Your point about spa is moot with hakkinen being out. Michael was about 4 seconds faster than everyone else inlcuding dc and eventual winner hill. No way was mika beating michael for pace at spa 98. Yknow like sennas 93 donington pace - but better. Winning canada with a stop go penalty. Last to 3rd in japan in 20 laps. Passing mika on the track in monza when *both* has gone through dc's smoke and oil cloud France was on merit, was it not, based on quali? Michael made what would have been a boring one sided championship season exciting. He did the same in 97. Both years the pace of his cars had no business being in the final race championship deciders. And mika is lucky Michael broke his legs in 99 or mika would be a 1 time champ.

@someoneunseen5168

4 ай бұрын

3 times, *britain. Nothing went wrong on mikas car, the steering wheel operator made a mistake.

I bet Damon Hill thought the Michael was taking the Michael at Adelaide in 1994........

This race has been compared to 2019 Hungary by Mercedes but it's nowhere near that level. The tactics were much more clever. The strategy had to be seen and understood to be appreciated.

"A look back at when Ferrari didn't shit the bed with strategy - if this is new to you..."

Umm... So you're not gonna do a video on SVG beating the shit outta all those Nascar drivers in Chicago? Been waiting on that one lol...

"A look at the time when Ferrai didn't sh*t the bed with strategy. If this is new to you..." New F1 fan, post DTS, wouldn't know anything about 😂😂

Ya mean there was a time where Ferrari weren't their own worst enemy?

So an brit and a frenchman were able to work together better than the italians hahaha

@JohnSmithShields

10 ай бұрын

With a German executing their plans. Ahhh Italian masterclass.

Back when other teams dropped the soap and Ferrari took advantage, and not the other way around.

Back when ferrari were aggressive.

You failed to mention how Hakkinen had a technical/handling problem during the course of the race. Mclaren failed to let Coulthard pass him for quite a few laps while Schumacher was pumping in serious lap times. If they had reacted quicker I don't think Schumacher would of come out in front of Coulthard.

@AidanMillward

10 ай бұрын

I mentioned Hakkinen’s problem during the video.

I assume this is the last time Ferrari out foxed anyone? /s

@theempires5

10 ай бұрын

France 2004, GB 2004, Abu Dhabi 2016

Jacques Villeneuve may have been better prepared, but talent-wise Mick falls painfully short. Jacques actually WON things in various formula, Mick is riding the wave of the family name. Nothing more.

@benn8793

10 ай бұрын

Mick is 2x vice-champion in F4, F3 and F2 champion. I have no idea what you're talking about...

@ThePhil74

10 ай бұрын

@@benn8793 and he still couldn't cut it in F1 because he's just not that good. He's not his daddy, people need to get over that.

@benn8793

10 ай бұрын

@@ThePhil74 The only one who compares him to his father here is you. Maybe you had the wrong expectations about him? In any case, that doesn't change the fact that he was in F1 on merit and not because of his name, as you say.

@AidanMillward

10 ай бұрын

@@benn8793 Jolyon Palmer won GP2. Just saying. Mick was nowhere in his first F2 season and got rinsed by Latifi who was just a meme in f1. Then halfway through the next season woke up halfway through like he did midway through his second F3 season. Someone with the hype and expectation of someone with the Schumacher name should have been on it from day one, not waking up mid season in his second attempt.

@ThePhil74

10 ай бұрын

@@benn8793 well of course I compared him to his father, that's the only reason Mick is in F1. That's what the hype-train was about with Mick leading up to his F1 "career", he was billed as Michael v2.0.

Where did MS overtook MH though?